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| dasig | hi | 04:35 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <crooked_sailor> /join@IrcsomeBot | 04:50 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <PJtunes> I think all this messages are important and should be pinned (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> That way we can keep track of who's talking to who.) | 07:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <PJtunes> This particular insights you dropped | 07:42 |
| iomari891 | greetings, I just saw this strange message in my terminal "Failed to connect to a Wayland server" when I'm not running wayland. | 10:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <hjvTelegram> 7Y64 | 10:51 |
| Guest73 | Hi folks, quick question: is the LTS life cycle of Kubuntu the same as for Ubuntu? (So 5 years support). Couldn't find it easily on the website, so I thought I might get an answer here =) | 11:04 |
| IrcsomeBot | <hjvTelegram> I think it is 5 years although Ubuntu-Mate is 3 years so it may depend on the developers and what they commit to. | 11:08 |
| Robbotto[m] | <Guest73> "Hi folks, quick question: is the..." <- 3 years | 11:10 |
| Guest73 | Thanks a lot! | 11:11 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ | 11:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Kubuntu 22.04 supported with security and maintenance updates, until April 2025. | 11:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JammyJellyfish/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu | 11:12 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Support lifespan | 11:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <RikMills> Kubuntu 22.04 will be supported for 3 years. | 11:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <hjvTelegram> For anyone wondering - I installed kwin-bismuth on Kubuntu - fabulous tiling window manager. sudo apt install kwin-bismuth FYI | 11:14 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:51 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <crooked_sailor> is there any good whatsapp program well equiped with QT platform? | 13:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <lord chencho> what's wrong with whatsapp web? :- º (re @crooked_sailor: is there any good whatsapp program well equiped with QT platform?) | 13:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <crooked_sailor> Used it but when I clear up my browse history logs me out everywhere (re @lord chencho: what's wrong with whatsapp web? :- º) | 13:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <lord chencho> Look for whatsie. It is available in flathub. (re @crooked_sailor: Used it but when I clear up my browse history logs me out everywhere) | 13:44 |
| iomari891 | I still can't upgrade 22.04 to 22.10. This is frustrating. After updating->upgrading->dist-upgrade, I still get "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading". What gives? | 14:31 |
| iomari891 | I've been trying since 10/20. | 14:31 |
| blaze | apt list --upgradable | 14:47 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: according to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release release upgrades from 22.04 to 22.10 are enabled. so it will be due to the local system state. the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ may provide more information on what causes the release upgrade to be cancelled. | 15:02 |
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| iomari891 | tomreyn: Thanks. Files and folders in /var/log/dist-upgrade are all very old. Any idea why there are not up to date? | 16:41 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: no. but i have very little information to work with. | 16:42 |
| iomari891 | will deleting the contents help? | 16:43 |
| tomreyn | no | 16:43 |
| alkisg | iomari891: blaze requested your output of `apt list --upgradable`; or send us the output of `apt full-upgrade`; without it, we can't help you | 16:46 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: what you can do is capture and share the full output, as well as these commands, as you run them: apt policy; apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$'; sudo apt update && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade | 16:47 |
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| iomari891 | ok thanks, give me a minute .. | 16:50 |
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| * tomreyn falls asleep | 17:14 | |
| tomreyn | I expect that in about three days, we'll see iomari891 post this here: "I still can't upgrade 22.04 to 22.10. This is frustrating. After updating->upgrading->dist-upgrade, I still get 'Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading'. What gives?" | 17:16 |
| alkisg | Yeh I think I've seen that about 20 times now, and equal times they asked for information but wasn't provided | 17:26 |
| tomreyn | same | 17:31 |
| Mrokii | mmikowski: Hm, okay, thanks. But Kalendar never worked for me, even before I had mysql-server installed. I only tried that as it was one of the suggested solutions for possible problems. | 17:35 |
| iomari891 | tomreyn: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/TgnYDtHSBb/plain/ | 17:37 |
| iomari891 | sorry, guys. My work keeps me very busy and not at my laptop at times. | 17:38 |
| RikMills | Mrokii: I installed kalendar in a clean 22.10 install, and it worked out of the box. FYI, it does require a mysql server, but mariadb is what the KDE devs tend to test it with | 17:38 |
| alkisg | iomari891: what happens if you run: apt install libheif1 | 17:42 |
| Mrokii | RikMills: Thanks. It may just be a problem when trying to run it from years old installation that just got upgraded all the time. I'll see if I have mariadb installed. Thanks. | 17:45 |
| tomreyn | that's a wild mix of incompatible package sources :-( | 17:45 |
| tomreyn | and lots of installed packages without an upgrade path | 17:46 |
| alkisg | tomreyn: do you know when packages are "held back" due to phased updates, if do-release-upgrade then complains it can't upgrade because there are held packages? | 17:46 |
| tomreyn | alkisg: i would not know. but that's not the (main) issue here. | 17:47 |
| alkisg | Eh, it's the one they complain about :D | 17:47 |
| tomreyn | interesting question, though, hopefully someone thought about it | 17:47 |
| tomreyn | not exactly. the message provided by iomari891 was "Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading" - and supposedly (untold) this is from do-release-upgrade | 17:48 |
| alkisg | ...which I believe is due to libheif1 currently | 17:49 |
| iomari891 | alkisg: gives an error. 1 sec .... | 17:49 |
| tomreyn | that may be so, yes. | 17:49 |
| iomari891 | alkisg: The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 17:49 |
| iomari891 | libheif1 : Depends: libdav1d6 (>= 0.1.0) but it is not installable | 17:49 |
| iomari891 | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 17:49 |
| alkisg | iomari891: this then causes do-release-upgrade to complain, | 17:50 |
| alkisg | and the reason for that ^ message is what tomreyn said; you have a mess in your apt sources and installed packages | 17:50 |
| tomreyn | (though i believe it will be so as a result of mixing packages from different ubuntu and debian releases, as well as having locally installed packages from unknown sources, defining dependencies, too) | 17:50 |
| iomari891 | should I remove all third part repos and try again. | 17:51 |
| alkisg | No, that won't fix it, you also need to fix the already installed programs | 17:51 |
| alkisg | What's the output of: apt policy libheif1 | 17:51 |
| RikMills | if you do apt install libheif1 libdav1d6 | 17:51 |
| RikMills | it should give you more info | 17:52 |
| iomari891 | libheif1: | 17:52 |
| iomari891 | Installed: 1.12.0-2build1 | 17:52 |
| iomari891 | Candidate: 1.13.0-1~22.04.sav0 | 17:52 |
| iomari891 | Version table: | 17:52 |
| iomari891 | 1.13.0-1~22.04.sav0 500 | 17:52 |
| iomari891 | 500 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/savoury1/blender/ubuntu jammy/main amd64 Packages | 17:52 |
| alkisg | RikMills: libdav1d6 isn't a dependency of libheif1 in normal ubuntu | 17:52 |
| tomreyn | !paste | iomari891 | 17:52 |
| ubottu | iomari891: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:52 |
| alkisg | iomari891: use pastebin next time. Now, do delete the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<the savoury ppa source file> | 17:52 |
| alkisg | Then try again `apt full-upgrade`, it should then show there are no packages to upgrade at all | 17:53 |
| RikMills | alkisg: yes it is | 17:53 |
| RikMills | https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/libheif1 | 17:53 |
| alkisg | RikMills: 22.04 | 17:54 |
| alkisg | Depends: libaom3 (>= 3.2.0), libc6 (>= 2.34), libdav1d5 (>= 0.1.0), libde265-0 (>= 1.0.7), libgcc-s1 (>= 3.3.1), libstdc++6 (>= 11), libx265-199 (>= 3.5) | 17:54 |
| * RikMills head is still in kinetic | 17:55 | |
| RikMills | 22.04 is soooooooooooooooo long ago | 17:55 |
| alkisg | Hahaha | 17:55 |
| alkisg | A toddler's full life! | 17:55 |
| RikMills | I am waiting for 2304 archive to open :P | 17:56 |
| RikMills | 23.04 | 17:56 |
| alkisg | iomari891: when that's all done and do-release-upgrade starts, it may still fail due to the chaos you have of bad sources and installed packages; ping me then for a more harsh way of restoring sanity | 17:57 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> hello, it's possible to run .exe apps in kubuntu? sry i'm new with this system | 17:57 |
| RikMills | the blender ppa needs disabling 1st of all | 17:57 |
| RikMills | and they pinged out..... | 17:58 |
| tomreyn | bye iomari891! | 17:59 |
| * RikMills goes back to watching python 3.11 rebuild in the Lobster | 17:59 | |
| tomreyn | Nico: to *some* degree, using WINE. but before you go down this rabbit hole, consider alternatives. what are you trying to run? | 18:00 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> bob win. bobcera | 18:18 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> it's a front end with batocera. for retro gaming | 18:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> already I instaled wine but there is a pop up saying that WINE can't be opened | 18:20 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> tomreyn, maybe you can recomend a video or YT channel for kubuntu beginners? | 18:22 |
| tomreyn | Nico: i think your best option to do retro gaming on kubuntu is to use one of the softwares provided for this purpose in the (k)ubuntu repositories. there are several. | 18:24 |
| tomreyn | i do not know anything about the software you mentioned (bob win. bobcera, a frontend with batocera), so i do not know what it emulates or how you would do so on kubuntu, though | 18:25 |
| tomreyn | apparently, batocera is actually a linux distrobution around retro-gaming: https://batocera.org/ | 18:26 |
| tomreyn | Nico: i can't seem to find anything about this front-edn you mentioned, though, "bob win. bobcera" | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | do you have a url for it? | 18:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> https://t.me/BOBcera/2860 | 18:37 |
| tomreyn | oh, i don't have telegram, so i can only see the preview image | 18:46 |
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| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> np! thx for your time tomreyn | 18:51 |
| tomreyn | Nico: i'm not sure what this software does, but you'll probably find that batocera itself provides similar functionality, and you don'T actually need this front-end. | 18:51 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Nico> I see. Thanks! | 18:51 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ksenchy> Hi, which ntp server is being hit by default. How do I change it? | 19:55 |
| tomreyn | ksenchy: ntp.ubuntu.com, NTP=... in /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf in the [Time] section | 20:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ksenchy> Yep. I already changed. Thanks | 21:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ksenchy> Is there a reason why the poll interval is around 30mins by default? I reckon once a day is enough, the clock doesn't go bad in 30mins | 21:51 |
| mmikowski | ksenchy: Many years ago, I know NTP had issues syncing if the drift was too much. I don't know if this remains an issue, but that might be the reason for the relatively frequent polling. | 22:27 |
| andyson | what is this | 23:44 |
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