| Mooncairn | Has anyone tried using fish? How do you rate it vs bash or zsh? | 18:10 |
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| ben | i've been using fish for years | 18:11 |
| ben | it's great | 18:11 |
| ben | i don't write scripts in fish but i use it interactively and it's lovely | 18:11 |
| Mooncairn | I like how certain features that require plugins in zsh are built-in with fish. | 18:12 |
| Mooncairn | There's one or two nit-picky things that it doesn't have, and I haven't even started looking at fisher and its ecosystem. | 18:13 |
| Mooncairn | Migrating over to it from zsh and zprezto is taking some time, though. | 18:13 |
| llua | those plugins aren't adding features, just configuring them. | 18:14 |
| Mooncairn | Good to know. I'm still learning what featuers fish has and how they work. | 18:15 |
| cmaloney | I'm sticking with bash because I'm a curmudgeon. :) | 18:16 |
| llua | fish's completion system is weaker than zsh, but most people don't understand shell completion systems so its kinda a moot point | 18:17 |
| Mooncairn | Yea, that's the nit-picky area. :) | 18:18 |
| greg-g | I thought I knew who ben was but I'm wrong, based on /whois :) Welcome ben. | 18:20 |
| greg-g | and others like Mooncairn who I don't think I've met before. | 18:20 |
| ben | how greg-g! | 18:29 |
| ben | howdy* even | 18:29 |
| ben | howdy to the fellow Michiganders | 18:29 |
| Mooncairn | Hi greg-g! | 18:31 |
| ben | where in MI y'all at? | 18:32 |
| ben | I'm originally from Marquette, been living in TC for a little over 5yrs now | 18:32 |
| greg-g | I'm no longer in Michigan, sadly, I'm now in SoCal (by way of the bay area). But I kinda started this here channel thing and I want to move back someday (but my wife may not like the weather anymore :) ) | 18:35 |
| cmaloney | metro detroit area | 18:40 |
| llua | ditto | 19:02 |
| Mooncairn | Globbing in fish is also much weaker than zsh. I use extended globbing quite a bit, mostly for things like "mv foo{,.bak}". | 20:16 |
| llua | that isn't globbing but brace expansion | 20:17 |
| Mooncairn | Ok, I'd miss brace expansion. I also do enough actual extended globbing that it'd be annoying to miss it, but I think fish has some utilities to ease that pain. | 20:21 |
| Mooncairn | The reason I'm considering fish in the first place is that zsh is really slow and I have to track and insall a plethora of plugins and add-ons. | 20:22 |
| llua | the plethora of addons usually lead to that, like internet explorer. | 20:28 |
| ben | iirc brace expansions work as you would expect in fish | 21:19 |
| ben | i tried zsh some years ago and was very happy to find the stuff i had to get plugins for was already-included | 21:19 |
| ben | (in fish, that is) | 21:19 |
| Mooncairn | D'oh! Because I had erroneously lumped brace expansion into globbing in my thinking, I didn't catch that fish does have the former. | 21:24 |
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