[18:10] Has anyone tried using fish? How do you rate it vs bash or zsh? [18:11] i've been using fish for years [18:11] it's great [18:11] i don't write scripts in fish but i use it interactively and it's lovely [18:12] I like how certain features that require plugins in zsh are built-in with fish. [18:13] There's one or two nit-picky things that it doesn't have, and I haven't even started looking at fisher and its ecosystem. [18:13] Migrating over to it from zsh and zprezto is taking some time, though. [18:14] those plugins aren't adding features, just configuring them. [18:15] Good to know. I'm still learning what featuers fish has and how they work. [18:16] I'm sticking with bash because I'm a curmudgeon. :) [18:17] fish's completion system is weaker than zsh, but most people don't understand shell completion systems so its kinda a moot point [18:18] Yea, that's the nit-picky area. :) [18:20] I thought I knew who ben was but I'm wrong, based on /whois :) Welcome ben. [18:20] and others like Mooncairn who I don't think I've met before. [18:29] how greg-g! [18:29] howdy* even [18:29] howdy to the fellow Michiganders [18:31] Hi greg-g! [18:32] where in MI y'all at? [18:32] I'm originally from Marquette, been living in TC for a little over 5yrs now [18:35] I'm no longer in Michigan, sadly, I'm now in SoCal (by way of the bay area). But I kinda started this here channel thing and I want to move back someday (but my wife may not like the weather anymore :) ) [18:40] metro detroit area [19:02] ditto [20:16] Globbing in fish is also much weaker than zsh. I use extended globbing quite a bit, mostly for things like "mv foo{,.bak}". [20:17] that isn't globbing but brace expansion [20:21] Ok, I'd miss brace expansion. I also do enough actual extended globbing that it'd be annoying to miss it, but I think fish has some utilities to ease that pain. [20:22] The reason I'm considering fish in the first place is that zsh is really slow and I have to track and insall a plethora of plugins and add-ons. [20:28] the plethora of addons usually lead to that, like internet explorer. [21:19] iirc brace expansions work as you would expect in fish [21:19] i tried zsh some years ago and was very happy to find the stuff i had to get plugins for was already-included [21:19] (in fish, that is) [21:24] D'oh! Because I had erroneously lumped brace expansion into globbing in my thinking, I didn't catch that fish does have the former.