[00:04] <mybalzitch> wsl2 has mostly fixed my key repeat issues in the more recent builds
[00:37] <yukiup> i have a usb hdd that crashes anything I write something to it, even from a live cd. works just fine in windows and it used to work in ubuntu but somehow i messed it up. help?
[00:37] <yukiup> s/anything/anytime/
[00:37] <yukiup> linux freezes
[00:41] <mybalzitch> your computer hard locks, or you can't write any more data to the drive
[00:41] <yukiup> right after trying to write a file, the mouse stops moving
[00:41] <yukiup> and i can't do anything
[00:41] <mybalzitch> if you do ctrl+alt+f2 does it give you a text based login screen?
[00:41] <yukiup> i tried that too
[00:41] <yukiup> nothing
[00:42] <yukiup> it does nothing*
[00:45] <mybalzitch> if you unplug the drive does the computer come back to life?
[00:46] <yukiup> no
[00:51] <yukiup> i think i was messing with mount options before it stopped working
[00:52] <yukiup> i rest the mount options to the default
[00:52] <yukiup> i was using the gnome disk utility
[00:55] <yukiup> what confuses me is why it has the same problem when using a live cd of ubuntu
[01:02] <yukiup> inside the usb hdd, new folders seem to be being created called "FOUND.000" .001, .002
[01:28] <yukiup> logged in via ssh, manually mounted the drive
[01:28] <yukiup> and now its working
[01:28] <yukiup> ^_^
[02:50] <yukiup> btw i rebooted before i was able to ssh in
[03:46] <nickgaw> With the new canary installer does it just boot into the installer and no live environment as I being totally blind can not get orca to run with control or alt and windows key and s no matter what I try?
[04:11] <Guest4838> hi, who can tell me how I can convert coding from ettercap.. conversations?
[04:12] <matsaman> coding?
[04:13] <Guest4838> not really... I mean encrypted
[04:13] <Guest4838> I will copy some of this to be more clear
[04:14] <Guest4838> ...........>...y..:..k.f....e...6...f...#....w@.I6....94=&..O#..<$..O{..L....ORYn....Y..
[04:14] <Guest4838> .'..Q....e(..s.$.....$....#.V....N....t....[..Vv......L.....Ppc.OV#...o...5
[04:14] <Guest4838> ..=......_R...A.2k.r.`...:P..|Qj......W.z...>._.&..2....ul..|T....4$..R...)a.-...e+...I......,.	..v_.?.@......,.1..)...............b4&"Sd....`G.[1...?. .p.Q.G....6...:...U.G@.# ...e.E......6...'.=..,$SC@k.)J....&1.B...}....O^.AF......a.
[04:14] <Guest4838> >...#...,ru~.?kP..7..Y..r..g..Y2.}.D.....59>g..e..A...............x_d....w%.,.;......q........)...........1..M ...h..`...T./.a.G.A~N...W9..&
[04:14] <matsaman> heh
[04:14] <Guest4838> some like this
[04:14] <bankai_> ... seriously?
[04:14] <Guest4838> why not ?
[04:15] <Guest4838> any Idea how can I get it in txt
[04:15] <Guest4838> ?
[04:16] <bankai_> do you have the key that encrypted it?
[04:17] <lotuspsychje_> Guest4838: pentesting is not the scope of this channel, we focus on ubuntu support issues here
[04:17] <Guest4838> just any idea and I will go on please..
[04:18] <Guest4838> where is the key in ettercap files
[04:18] <Guest4838> recibed at the time?
[04:19] <Guest4838> ok
[04:19] <bankai_> it'd be a pretty crappy encryption process if it sent the key
[04:19] <Guest4838> I think so
[04:20] <Guest4838> This is a Ubuntu issue, because is installed in ubuntu, not in Kali
[04:22] <Guest4838> where does can i find the encryption key when I listening inettercap
[04:22] <Guest4838> ?
[04:22] <Guest4838> please
[04:51] <bankai_> it won't be in there
[07:26] <unimatrix9> hello there , good morning ( for some )
[07:27] <unimatrix9> the software app ( software centre ) on ubuntu there is a botton that refreshes, whats the commandline switch to do the same thing ?
[07:30] <SteelRose> Hi all!
[07:31] <yukiup> hi
[07:31] <SteelRose> question: is accessing Windows shared folders always so slow? I'm on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS + KDE Plasma. Accessing them from Windows is quite fast. Thanks
[08:14] <esperegu> I have an USB drive with EFI partition and 2 linux installations. How can I make EFI see both installations? They both an ubuntu entry in EFI and I renamed one, tried to add it with efibootmgr but it only boots to the one that has the folder name 'ubuntu'. Any suggestions? thx!
[08:15] <alkisg> esperegu: by default, you should be able to see both entries in grub; why do you need to see them in the uefi boot manager instead?
[08:16] <esperegu> alkisg: I thought it be most clear to have them totally separated that way. One also has grub installed on the EFI partition since it apparently needs some modules to boot.
[08:17] <alkisg> The boot process is uefi > shim > grub > rootfs (grub.cfg, kernel etc)
[08:18] <alkisg> To do what you wanted, you'd need to rename /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu to ubuntu1 and ubuntu2, and after every grub or shim update, you'd need to move them again manually
[08:18] <alkisg> While if you stick to the existing workflow, you should be able to select all your operating systems from the grub menu instead of the uefi boot manager
[08:19] <alkisg> Sure, your idea is solid, but it doesn't align with the current workflow
[08:19] <EriC^^> esperegu: can you paste the output of sudo ls -lR /boot/efi   and sudo efibootmgr -v  so we get an idea about the setup
[08:22] <esperegu> alkisg: its need to be ubuntu1 and 2? I changed one to kubuntu (or another name) and it never boots that. It appeared in bios but selecting it just booted 'ubuntu' instead.
[08:22] <alkisg> esperegu: you can use efibootmgr to add a kubuntu entry. But kubuntu won't know that. So when grub is updated inside kubuntu, it will override your ubuntu grub
[08:23] <alkisg> I.e. it's possible to do what you're asking, but it will confuse you very much after an update, and you'll need to repeat the process
[08:23] <EriC^^> im not understanding why is he having to change the name and whatnot
[08:24] <alkisg> EriC^^: ubuntu writes stuff to /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu. Then kubuntu uses the same path, overwriting ubuntu's stuff
[08:25] <alkisg> And esperegu wants kubuntu to use /boot/efi/EFI/kubuntu instead, which isn't configurable
[08:26] <EriC^^> he said he 'changed' the name not copied the whole dir so its confusing
[08:26] <alkisg> The goal is to press f12 while the PC boots, and see "ubuntu" and "kubuntu" there
[08:26] <EriC^^> esperegu: did you originally have 2 efi dirs in /boot/efi/efi or just the one ubuntu?
[08:27] <alkisg> That entry can be added with efibootmgr, but there will be issues with it after grub updates
[08:27] <esperegu> EriC^^ alkisg: https://dpaste.com/3F67BXG5W
[08:28] <alkisg> esperegu: UEFI doesn't just read the directories there, it has some internal memory for boot entries, which can be manipulated with the efibootmgr command, run it so that you see what's missing
[08:28] <EriC^^> it looks like kubuntu was always there, grub.cfg is differently sized
[08:29] <EriC^^> esperegu: did you create 'kubuntu' by copying a duplicate of /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu ?
[08:29] <alkisg> esperegu: but even if you do use the efibootmgr to add the kubuntu entry, you'll still have all the issues I mentioned, and you won't even know you have them; kubuntu updates will be updating ubuntu's grub instead
[08:30] <esperegu> EriC^^: I copied it from another drive where it was named 'ubuntu' and renamed it.
[08:30] <EriC^^> oh ok
[08:30] <esperegu> I did a fresh install on another drive and trying to get those on one
[08:30] <EriC^^> honestly just use grub for both as alkisg said
[08:31] <esperegu> how do I get to recognize them both?
[08:31] <EriC^^> run 'sudo update-grub' from the main OS you'll be using
[08:32] <esperegu> EriC^^: that I tried but it did not show the install
[08:32] <alkisg> Is it 22.04?
[08:32] <esperegu> hmm. maybe I need to do it from the other intstall
[08:32] <esperegu> yes
[08:33] <alkisg> 22.04 needs this in /etc/default/grub.d/local.conf: GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true
[08:33] <alkisg> Sorry, false, not true
[08:33] <esperegu> alkisg: yes. but the new install has ZFS. I think that does not automatically gets detected.
[08:33] <alkisg> Then do it from the new install, it'll be easier
[08:34] <alkisg> You can also add a custom entry, "chain to kubuntu", which does "set root=xxx; configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[08:36] <esperegu> grr. somehow that stupid laptop sometimes shows the USB drive in EFI boot menu and sometimes not. Annoying, I keep retrying...
[08:36] <alkisg> You could also use grub-efi in ubuntu and grub-pc in kubuntu :P
[08:37] <alkisg> (grub-pc is used when booting in bios mode)
[08:37] <esperegu> alkisg: whats the diff?
[08:38] <esperegu> k
[08:40] <esperegu> I'll try grub update from the ZFS and otherwise I will just change the /EFI/ubuntu folder manualy to boot the other os each time I need to change.
[08:41] <EriC^^> esperegu: if update-grub doesnt pick it up from the zfs one, then just add a custom entry in grub to load the grub.cfg of the 2nd
[08:42] <EriC^^> in /etc/grub.d/40_custom   put in it       menuentry 'Ubuntu-2' { configfile (hd0,gpt1)/EFI/kubuntu/grub.cfg }
[08:44] <esperegu> fuck. removed /etc/default/grub. when it rains it poors.
[08:48] <EriC^^> esperegu: sudo cp /usr/share/grub/default/grub /etc/default/grub
[08:50] <esperegu> EriC^^: how to get grub to recognize the /etc/default/grub.d/local.conf ?
[08:50] <murmel> it should automatically
[08:50] <EriC^^> esperegu: it should be /etc/grub.d/local.conf , you run update-grub it should use it
[08:51] <alkisg> EriC^^: no, /etc/grub.d has scripts
[08:51] <alkisg> It should be in /etc/default/grub.d/local.conf
[08:51] <EriC^^> aha, new dir it seems?
[08:51] <alkisg> A single line there, GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false
[08:52] <esperegu> it does not seem to take that line into account. grrr
[08:52] <alkisg> esperegu: run sudo update-grub, then pastebin the whole output
[08:53] <alkisg> esperegu: sorry I meant local.cfg, try with cfg instead of conf
[08:54] <alkisg> Nah the extension doesn't seem to make a difference, but anyway .cfg is more frequent for grub configuration files
[08:54] <esperegu> alkisg: that did the trick ;-)
[08:54] <alkisg> Haha, ok then
[08:54] <esperegu> with .conf it did not use it. it just showed the prober warning again
[08:54] <alkisg> For me with .conf it did, but anyway no point in analyzing it if it works
[08:56] <esperegu> grrr.. and usb drive does not show upon reboot. irritating
[08:57] <esperegu> appears with the controller name on next boot and then nothing. pffff. crap laptop
[09:06] <esperegu> grr... it does not see the usb drive at all anymore. weird
[09:20] <pagios> what is this error about ? https://pastebin.com/ifZyAD8z
[09:43] <ubet> helo
[10:55] <esperegu> alkisg: EriC^: apparently that grub update broke it and now both don't boot anymore .... One gives a kernel panic and the other can't the pool and gives an initramfs
[10:56] <alkisg> esperegu: in the initramfs, type: blkid; cat /proc/cmdline
[10:56] <alkisg> And upload a screenshot
[10:57] <alkisg> The update-grub normally doesn't break things, it's even called automatically on kernel updates
[10:57] <alkisg> So I think something else broke it
[11:03] <EriC^> esperegu: if you have a live usb it would be easier to troubleshoot
[11:06] <esperegu> alkisg: https://postimg.cc/WF8841dM
[11:07] <alkisg> Ah, zfs, no idea, wait for someone else :)
[11:08] <alkisg> Also mention the actual error the initramfs displays before dropping to initramfs
[11:09] <alkisg> You may also manually type commands in grub, by pressing "e" and then typing "set root=(hd0,gpt10)" and "linux /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda10" and "initrd /boot/initrd.img" and "boot". These should at least boot your kubuntu.
[11:10] <esperegu> alkisg: when I selected that in grub it gave kernel panic
[11:11] <alkisg> Maybe because it had the wrong parameters? More information is needed, e.g. screenshots of both the issues along with your existing grub.cfg, which you could get from a live cd
[11:12] <dell> Hello
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> welcome dell
[11:17] <Kartagis-> hi. /usr/bin/ is in PATH and my newly installed package is there but it can't be invoked. why?
[11:17] <EriC^> Kartagis-: is it +x?
[11:18] <Kartagis-> EriC^: I just checked, it's 755 so yes, it's +x.
[11:18] <EriC^> Kartagis-: try "type -a <command>"
[11:19] <Kartagis-> EriC^: metapixel is /usr/bin/metapixel\nmetapixel is /bin/metapixel
[11:20] <Kartagis-> EriC^: /bin is also in $PATH
[11:20] <EriC^> Kartagis-: looks good, so what happens when you type "metapixel" in the terminal?
[11:21] <Kartagis-> EriC^: interesting, it started working in a new tab
[11:22] <EriC^> well that's good
[11:46] <docmax> how do i apply openssl 3.0.7 quickly on ubuntu 22?
[11:47] <Habbie> docmax, are you asking because of the security issues?
[11:47] <docmax> yes
[11:47] <Lartza> apt updata && apt upgrade
[11:47] <Habbie> ^ that
[11:47] <Lartza> typod lol
[11:47] <Lartza> But you get the point
[11:48] <docmax> Lartza, did this allready, no update
[11:49] <Lartza> And which package version do you have?
[11:49] <ogra> there is no 3.0.7 in ubuntu
[11:49] <docmax> installed  3.0.2-0ubuntu1.7
[11:49] <ogra> thats the fix
[11:49] <Lartza> That's already up to date
[11:49] <ogra> https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2022-3786
[11:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu- A buffer overrun can be triggered in X.509 certificate verification, specifically in name constraint checking. Note that this occurs after certificate chain signature verification and requires either a CA to have signed a malicious certificate or for an application to continue certificate verification despite failure to construct a path to a trusted issuer. An attacker can c... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-3786>
[11:50] <Guest16> Hello fellas. I'm using Focal Fossa, and the way my Files are listed is bad. I want it to be listed first by type, than by alphabetical order. How can I do this, instead of choosing only 1 of these columns???
[11:50] <docmax> ogra, how do you know that?
[11:50] <ogra> docmax, see the link
[11:51] <ogra> Guest16, richt click on one of the column headers, that shuld open a list of checkboxes ... pick type ... then click that header after it was added
[11:51] <ogra> *right
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:54] <Guest16> ogra: it works, but if I close the window and open another Files window, the Type column won't be there anymore and files are exhibited like before. How to make it persistent?
[11:59] <ogra> Guest16, hmm, on my 22.04 there is a little down arrow at the top of the window that gives a menu "visible columns" ... not sure 20.04 has that though
[12:01] <Guest1627> ogra: hey I asked you about Files order a few minutes ago, but my pc died. if you answered please resend it?
[12:01] <ogra> Guest1627,  "Guest16, hmm, on my 22.04 there is a little down arrow at the top of the window that gives a menu "visible columns" ... not sure 20.04 has that though"
[12:04] <Guest1627> ogra: ohh there it is and works. thanks a lot mate
[12:04] <ogra> 👍
[12:07] <Guest1627> Fellas, I'm having a problem that both my monitors are turning off randomly, and only way to get them on again is hard rebooting the machine. Is anyone willing to take a look at my syslog and perhaps point me in the right direction? https://controlc.com/0234747ac (too big for pastebin, sorry for that)
[12:07] <Guest1627> Btw it doesn't happen at all on my Windows 10 (dual boot)
[12:28] <Blohsh> hi there
[12:29] <Blohsh> does 22.04 or LTS 22.10 contain latest kernel?
[12:29] <Blohsh> 22.04 lts*
[12:30] <murmel> no
[12:30] <Blohsh> my device have wifi rtl8821C
[12:31] <Blohsh> does not have ethernet also, i want to use wifi after install
[12:32] <murmel> Blohsh: hm in the list of files, it says it should support the bt module. but not sure if that includes the wifi (I guess not(
[12:32] <Blohsh> what kernel is 22.04 and 22.10
[12:33] <murmel> Blohsh: 22.04 is 5.15 and 22.10 is 5.19
[12:34] <Blohsh> i tried distro with 5.18 and it was having my wifi working
[12:34] <murmel> but 22.04 should get 5.19 at the latest in feb if I remember correctly
[12:34] <murmel> Blohsh: which distro was it?
[12:34] <Blohsh> deepin os
[12:35] <murmel> can you try out a live session? as ubuntu does include _some_ firmware, no idea if that includes wifi
[12:35] <Blohsh> have to download iso first.
[12:36] <Blohsh> it will take time, my internet not fast enough. so making sure i save time and select correct iso
[12:37] <murmel> Blohsh: give me a sec
[12:37] <Blohsh> murmel, i should go with 22.10?
[12:37] <Blohsh> ok
[12:38] <Blohsh> i don't have bluetooth hotspot so only option is enabled wifi after install
[12:38] <ogra> dont go with 22.10 ... dkms has issues in the 22.10 images
[12:38] <ogra> (and you will need dkms fo this out of tree driver)
[12:38] <murmel> Blohsh: can you give me the output of "lspci -nn | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:40] <murmel> if that doesn't work, paste the content on termbin.com or paste.debian.net
[12:40] <Blohsh> murmel, also touch pad does not work on other distros other then on deepin os
[12:41] <murmel> Blohsh: what device do you have? (laptop)
[12:41] <Blohsh> murmel, termbin.com/oift
[12:41] <Blohsh> murmel, its asus x415ja 14"
[12:43] <Blohsh> i7 10th
[12:43] <murmel> Blohsh: hm your wifi device should be supported on 22.04 as the driver was included in 5.9
[12:43] <Blohsh> ok murmel should i start download 22.04?
[12:44] <murmel> if you want to switch to ubuntu yes.
[12:44] <Blohsh> yup.
[12:44] <murmel> but before installing play around in the live session to make sure that your device works fine
[12:45] <murmel> that's one of the reasons I don't buy end consumer devices :S it _can_ work on linux but it's not guaranteed (also not on business devices, but it's more likely)
[12:50] <Blohsh> murmel, i tried this thing on debian, when i tried in live everything was working but when run installed on machine, wifi didn't work.
[12:50] <Blohsh> i remember i selected 3rd party drivers in option
[12:56] <webchat39> Hi, I'm a beginner in linux and I'm trying to install poetry using "curl -sSL https://install.python-poetry.org | python3 -" in wsl2-windows 10. I'm facing the following error and it would be of great if I could get some help
[12:57] <webchat39> Error: curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
[12:59] <murmel> webchat39: more info?
[13:14] <webchat39> murmel: This is the tool I'm trying to install in wsl2 within windows 10 (https://python-poetry.org/docs/#installing-with-the-official-installer) and when I'm running the curl command I'm getting the above error I have mentioned
[13:14] <webchat39> Error: curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
[13:15] <webchat39> murme: this is the error for reference
[13:17] <murmel> webchat39: hm, make sure that your ca-certificates are updated
[13:33] <webchat39> yeah I have tried the following steps:
[13:33] <webchat39> 1. curl -K -sSL https://install.python-poetry.org | python3 -
[13:33] <webchat39> 2. curl -sSL https://install.python-poetry.org | python3 - --insecure
[13:33] <webchat39> 3. sudo update-ca-certificates -f
[13:33] <webchat39> 4. downloading cacert.pem and c_rehash
[13:33] <webchat39> but still facing the issue
[13:39] <murmel> webchat39: if you want to --insecure, it would be "curl -ksSL https://install.python-poetry.org | python3 -"
[13:39] <webchat39> murmel thanks a lot this "curl -ksSL https://install.python-poetry.org | python3 -" worked
[14:04] <frickler> how can I make my bluetooth headset be used for both input and output automatically? currently when I switch it on, output is fine, but I need to switch from the default microphone in the setting every time again. on 22.04 if that matters
[14:05] <Habbie> frickler, do you see a "Profile" dropdown in settings?
[14:06] <frickler> Habbie: nope
[14:07] <Habbie> ok
[14:07] <Habbie> anyway, without being super helpful, my understanding is that bluetooth has different profiles - some with mic, some without
[14:07] <Habbie> and at least on my hardware, the profiles with mic (like a2dp) really ruin music
[14:07] <Habbie> so i need to rely on apps to switch the profile when they need the mic
[14:14] <Blohsh> murmel, sadly there is no wifi on live
[14:14] <Blohsh> i can see bluetooth
[14:19] <frickler> Habbie: o.k., that would at least explain why the default is set the way it is. still would be nice to be able to permanently override
[14:21] <Habbie> frickler, yes - on my Debian I recall seeing the dropdown, but I'm not sure it was in settings or in pulseaudio
[14:23] <Blohsh> murmel, what can i do?
[14:24] <kkkssf> to get your wifi working? Maybe chaeck if youare missing some firmware
[14:26] <Blohsh> kkkssf,  RTL8821CE
[14:26] <kkkssf> s/chaeck/check/
[14:26] <Blohsh> i don't have ethernet port, so can't install anything on it.
[14:26] <Blohsh> only way is to download file from other machine to this machine.
[14:26] <frickler> Habbie: there is a Settings/Sound/Output/Configuration dropdown that has "High Fidelity Playback (A2DP Sink)" as default and "Handsfree Head Unit (HFP)" as choices. sadly this also doesn't persist
[14:29] <Habbie> frickler, oh right, i mixed them up, a2dp for music, hfp for calling
[14:32] <kkkssf> I'm not sure but it looks like you need the rtl8821ce-dkms package to build the rtl8821ce kernel module
[14:32] <Blohsh> does ubuntu have build-essentials already installed by default?
[14:33] <Blohsh> and other commands like make
[14:33] <Blohsh> because i had same issue in debian so i moved to ubuntu
[14:33] <kkkssf> but i don't know if this works on a live system
[14:33] <Blohsh> i will install ubuntu but what to make clear does it have make commands installed by default?
[14:36] <Habbie> Blohsh, probably not
[14:39] <kkkssf> rtl8821ce-dkms depends only on dkms and bc
[14:40] <kkkssf> it should build the kernel module automatically
[14:41] <cnnx> hi,, how do I auto arrange my desktop icons in ubuntu 20.04 LTS to the left
[14:44] <c_89> Hi, I wrote this script which runs with exit code 0 but the sed command does not replace the required entry. Any suggestions? https://bpa.st/O6BA
[14:45] <Bardon> Hello, I'd like to boot a liveusb with the kernel option iomem=relaxed. Is it possible?
[14:45] <Bardon> If I edit the file /etc/default/grub and reboot, will the change still be there?
[14:48] <EriC^> Bardon: no it wont be there
[14:48] <EriC^> but you could edit the kernel line in grub when you boot the live usb by pressing 'e' and adding it and press ctrl+x or f10 to boot
[14:55] <Bardon> Oh right, I'll do that. Thanks!
[15:01] <jpmh> I want to be able to detect whether a commented HDMI monitor is on - how do I do that?
[15:03] <tomreyn> what is a "commented HDMI monitor"?
[15:36] <diverdude> Hello, say i have 3 USB devices on my ubuntun 22.04 machine and i never remove those usb devices and i reboot my machine a million times.... will device A always be mapped to same /dev address and device B to its same /dev address etc? I mean... are devices mapping for /dev consistent?
[15:36] <jpmh_> I got booted - so I apologize for asking again:  I need to detect whether my HDMI monitor is connected.  How do I do that?
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: <tomreyn> what is a "commented HDMI monitor"?
[15:37] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: I'm sorry I don't understand your question, please explain more
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: thats what you said in your original question
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: maybe you meant a connected monitor instead?
[15:38] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje:  connected - not commented.  Is that the confusion?
[15:39] <jpmh_> I do believe my question says that - it does on my screen
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: yes, as on ubuntu/linux commented lines are also a thing
[15:40] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: very true - but in this case I want to detect if it is CONNECTED - really I want to detect if it is on
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: i think xrandr can help you see whats connected
[15:40] <ogra> diverdude, no. there are explicitly not ... it is up to the kernel to assign device nodes and that might be influenced by the speed of the HW, the controllers, th ephase of the moon ... which is why you should never rely on namig in /dev
[15:41] <ogra> s/there are/they are/
[15:41] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: I have tried eveything I can think of with it.  It seems to report the status as the monitor was when it was last connected as long as it has been connected even if now off
[15:49] <GBGames> The notification from Software Updater saying "Software Updater is ready" won't go away. Clicking the X or on the notification does nothing, and clearing notifications has no effect on it either. Is there a program I can restart?
[15:50] <esperegu> howto disable the wifi interface at boot? (want to make sure I am not able to turn on the device without rebooting)
[15:52] <alkisg> Blacklist its module, then you'd need to manually modprobe it to function
[15:53] <rob0> will modprobe load a blacklisted module?
[15:53] <alkisg> I think so
[15:55] <GBGames> I tried Do Not Disturb and disabling the notifications from Software Updater, but the existing notification is still up and blocking my view of the top of the screen annoyingly.
[15:59] <jhutchins> GBGames: Try restarting gdm.
[15:59] <jhutchins> rob0: TIAS
[16:04] <rob0> jhutchins, I was not asking for me.
[16:07] <jhutchins> rob0: Does my answer not apply?
[16:08] <GBGames> jhutchins: So essentially reboot?
[16:08] <GBGames> I tried using xkill, but I guess the notification isn't technically a window.
[16:08] <jhutchins> GBGames: Restarting the display manager just restarts your GUI session.  The who core system isn't affected.
[16:09] <jhutchins> s/who/whole/
[16:09] <GBGames> True, I suppose generally speaking restarting isn't the same, but in my case I think I might as well. Oh, well. Thanks!
[16:10] <jhutchins> People tend to loose track of the fact that unlike with Windows, the graphical desktop is just an app running on a non-grapical OS.
[16:10] <jhutchins> GBGames: The other option would be to track down the application that _is_ displaying the notifications and re-start that.
[16:10] <jhutchins> ps axw.
[16:11] <GBGames> jhutchins: Yeah, but if I restart gdm, I basically need to restart pretty much everything I'm using on multiple virtual desktops. Browser windows, email, a bunch of libreoffice docs, hexchat, terminals, etc.
[16:12] <GBGames> Other than docker containers which technically could stay up, I might as well reboot. B-)
[16:13] <jhutchins> GBGames: Find the processes associated with "Software Updater" and restart those.
[16:13] <GBGames> But I do remember 20+ years ago a friend told me about how he converted his Red Hat install to Debian piecewise, and one day he rebooted (he had legendary uptimes) and he was reminded that he was running a Debian system at that point.
[16:13] <GBGames> "Oh. Oh yeah!"
[16:13] <jhutchins> Unfortunately gnome has a bad habit of using obscure names that aren't related to the GUI process they spawn.
[16:14] <jhutchins> GBGames: Do the notifications go away if you run the updates?
[17:01] <Juliaaa>  I run zoom, close the main window, and it's still in ps, still reports in unifi as doing zoom traffic over that time
[17:01] <Juliaaa> why?
[17:03] <Juliaaa> Ok the issue is that it minimizes to tray
[17:03] <Juliaaa> and i do not have tray
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> are you using zoom-client snap Juliaaa
[17:04] <Juliaaa> i3 with polybar problem :)
[17:05] <squirrelwalk> Hello all, stupid question for you. I'm trying to build a graph of updates to software packages in a repo, eg version 1 -> version 2 -> version 3 and so on for each package. AIUI that's not really how apt works (please correct me if wrong), and instead a snapshot of a repo will only tell me that for a given package name and release I should have
[17:05] <squirrelwalk> version N. Is there a way to gather that data, perhaps a revision history of the Packages files?
[17:05] <squirrelwalk> Alternatively, if that data is already available somewhere and I just don't know it, I'd appreciate a pointer to it.
[17:07] <tomreyn> Juliaaa: this is for windows, but chances are there is a similar option for the linux build: https://www.technipages.com/zoom-stop-zoom-from-minimising-to-the-system-tray
[17:09] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: why do you call it a graph? You just want the history of all releases, which is mostly a linear thing, right? version 21.10, 22.04 etc etc
[17:09] <tomreyn> Juliaaa: maybe also this https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/comments/h9h76q/how_to_disable_zoom_mini_window/
[17:10] <Juliaaa> thanks
[17:10] <Juliaaa> bro
[17:10] <squirrelwalk> alkisg: I don't think it is. For instance, with the latest openssl issue there were updates issued to 3.0.2 and 3.0.5, which means that the tip of the 3.0.2 branch is no longer a direct descendant of many releases on the 3.0.5 branch
[17:11] <tomreyn> Juliaaa: i don't 'bro', and you're welcome. :)
[17:11] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: are you talking about code repositories or apt repositories?
[17:11] <squirrelwalk> It might be more accurate to call it a forest of digraphs
[17:12] <squirrelwalk> alkisg: packages in an apt repository. AIUI, there is always a tip release of each package available in each release specified by the Packages file, and I'm looking to get the history of those
[17:13] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: apt only walks in linear fashion; a bigger version number means it should upgrade to that. Code repositories such as git support multiple branches which are based on other branches, hence the graphs
[17:14] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: another thing is the build system, e.g. launchpad; go to e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/htop and click on the publishing history
[17:14] <alkisg> From the point of the build system, it's ..complicated; from the point of apt repository, it's not, it has to be linear
[17:15] <squirrelwalk> alkisg: as above, this is not the case when considering multiple releases. Eg, for 22.04 there is always one tip, and all versions of that package should update to that tip when taking an update. But for 22.04 and 20.04 together, that may be very different. It would be enough for me to get the (as you say, linear) train for each release and
[17:15] <squirrelwalk> manually merge them into the graph, though
[17:16] <squirrelwalk> alkisg: as you say, it is not a full graph, but rather a forest of directed acyclic graphs when considering multiple releases. But anyway, just getting that linear sequence for each release is fine for my purposes.
[17:16] <alkisg> In any case apt doesn't record history. You can only find history on build systems such as launchpad.
[17:17] <squirrelwalk> alkisg: do you know if, for instance, Packages files are in some kind of SCM somewhere that would itself have revision history?
[17:20] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: I don't think history is kept on the ubuntu archives themselves. It is kept in the build system, launchpad though.
[17:20] <lorn1975> hi
[17:21] <lorn1975> sound is not working on Ubuntu 22.04 LS after latest software update
[17:21] <squirrelwalk> alkisg: do you know where? I see history for each individual package, but history for eg: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz would be more useful
[17:21] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: for debian, there's https://snapshot.debian.org/, but it still not exactly what you want, you'd have a hard time to get the info from there
[17:22] <alkisg> squirrelwalk: I don't think they keep a history for the Packages files. Wait in case someone else has more information on that.
[17:22] <lorn1975> Does anyone else has a problem with no sound after the latest software update
[17:23] <tomreyn> what is "Ubuntu 22.04 LS"? do you mean "LTS"?
[17:23] <lorn1975> yes LTS
[17:23] <mybalzitch> no they LS swapped ubuntu
[17:24] <tomreyn> what was this latest upgrade? you can check in /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:24] <tomreyn> did you reboot since?
[17:25] <lorn1975> i am running 22.04 LTS on my iMac 2013 i just updated the software and when playing videos on Youtube there is no sound
[17:25] <lorn1975> but there was sound before the update
[17:28] <ravage> and did you open the sound mixer and check if it is maybe just muted?
[17:28] <ravage> pavucontrol is also a good tool to debug audio
[17:28] <lorn1975> i opened alsamixer
[17:28] <ravage> that tool is obsolete :)
[17:29] <lorn1975> well what should i use to see if my audio muted or not
[17:29] <ravage> i just told you
[17:29] <lorn1975> ok
[17:30] <lorn1975> hold on installing
[17:30] <lorn1975> installed
[17:31] <ravage> open it and check the output devices
[17:32] <lorn1975> cheking
[17:32] <lorn1975> i see says Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
[17:32] <lorn1975> Port : Speakers
[17:32] <ravage> could be right
[17:32] <ravage> is the volume at 100%?
[17:32] <lorn1975> no
[17:33] <ravage> so do that
[17:33] <ravage> then open your browser on youtube
[17:33] <ravage> play a video. it should show up on the "Playback" tab
[17:34] <lorn1975> I see Firefox audio stream
[17:35] <lorn1975> under it the volume is at 100%
[17:35] <ravage> and has it your output device selected?
[17:35] <lorn1975> no it Firefox:AudioStream
[17:35] <ravage> on the dropdown beside that
[17:36] <lorn1975> there is no dropdown beside it
[17:36] <lorn1975> sound is at 74%
[17:36] <lorn1975> but no sound from Youtube
[17:36] <ravage> it should look like this https://i.imgur.com/unvq8gu.png
[17:37] <lorn1975> neither in from Firefox or chromium
[17:37] <ravage> just with another name of the output device of course
[17:38] <lorn1975> under Silence i see a orange line that is vibrating
[17:39] <lorn1975> but no sound
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> can you share your dmesg in a paste please lorn1975 maybe the volunteers can find something there
[17:40] <lorn1975> ok
[17:41] <lorn1975> i am using two computers
[17:41] <lorn1975> let me figure out how to send dmesg from my Imac here
[17:43] <lorn1975> i put it onto pastebin?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> or dpaste how you wish lorn1975
[17:45] <Atee> Hello guys! I have a web server with vqmod installed, I moved the images folder of my website, then i saw no pics are loaded obviously, after that i moved the images folder back to its original location. I see the cached "no image" images. How can I clear the cache ?
[17:47] <lorn1975> ok
[17:47] <lorn1975> check
[17:47] <lorn1975> https://pastebin.com/f8R1MiRc
[17:47] <lorn1975> can u see it
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> yes tnx lorn1975
[17:48] <lorn1975> no thank you
[17:49] <lorn1975> if they come up with the answer to the problem how willl they contact me
[17:51] <lorn1975> just send me a pm
[17:52] <lorn1975> i installed Ubuntu onto my iMac2013 as a standalone system because it works very slow with Mac own OS Monterey
[17:52] <lorn1975> although it crashed once
[17:53] <lorn1975> with ubuntu
[17:53] <lorn1975> with fsck message
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> lorn1975: can you confirm your sound was working on linux-image-5.15.0-50-generic ?
[17:55] <lorn1975> yes it was working before i just ran the update on the fresh install
[17:56] <lorn1975> it was working yesterday today i ran software update and sound stoped working
[17:56] <tomreyn> if that's a late 2013 "iMac 27" then snd-hda-intel module option "model=imac27" may help. but then, this should not have vanished during an update.
[17:58] <tomreyn> hmm no, different model - DMI: Apple Inc. iMac13,3
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> lorn1975: did you install any apps related to sound recently?
[18:01] <lorn1975> no
[18:01] <lorn1975> except pavucontrol
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> like timidity or something?
[18:01] <lorn1975> no
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> ok
[18:02] <tomreyn> lorn1975: can you run this and share the url:    journalctl --list-boots | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:02] <lorn1975> i try
[18:03] <thymage> I'm having trouble with partitions on my ubuntu server
[18:03] <thymage> lsblk reports that within my sda3 of my sda, I have a 100G LVM partition
[18:03] <thymage> but gparted reports what I think it would be...
[18:04] <tomreyn> lorn1975: this will list when the system was rebooted. you didn't answer my question earlier about whether you rebooted after the update which you're saying caused sound to fail. maybe with this output you will be able to tell?
[18:05] <lorn1975> i rebooted
[18:05] <lorn1975> the command you just gave asked me for passsoword and didnt return anything
[18:05] <tomreyn> lorn1975: hmm, sorry then, maybe it took too long,t hen it would have not printed anything
[18:06] <tomreyn> lorn1975: you can also run it just like this:    journalctl --list-boots | tail
[18:06] <lorn1975> ok
[18:06] <lorn1975> let me try
[18:06] <tomreyn> run it in a terminal window, so you'll see the output
[18:06] <lorn1975> k
[18:07] <tomreyn> thymage: what's your question?
[18:07] <lorn1975> k worked
[18:07] <lorn1975> hold
[18:08] <lorn1975> pastebin.com/fcnTFs3v
[18:09] <tomreyn> lorn1975: you can also run this command    less /var/log/apt/history.log    this will show what apt last did. you can scroll up and down and press q to quit
[18:09] <thymage> tomreyn, this helped me
[18:09] <thymage> https://packetpushers.net/ubuntu-extend-your-default-lvm-space/
[18:09] <Habbie> ah, you expected more than 100G?
[18:09] <Habbie> in LVM?
[18:10] <tomreyn> thymage: i'm glad you found a solution (we could not help since the issue wasn't clear)
[18:12] <lorn1975> ok
[18:13] <lorn1975> pastebin.com/zNN4JWFR
[18:15] <tomreyn> lorn1975: the alsa-ucm-conf update from version 1.2.6.3-1ubuntu1 to version 1.2.6.3-1ubuntu1.1, which took place on 2022-11-03  10:01:04, could be related. is this when sound stopped working?
[18:15] <lorn1975> yes i think
[18:17] <tomreyn> this update contains only one change (the one on top): http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-ucm-conf/alsa-ucm-conf_1.2.6.3-1ubuntu1.1/changelog
[18:17] <jhutchins> uptime shows time since last boot.
[18:17] <tomreyn> for bug 1992435
[18:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1992435 in OEM Priority Project "sof-hda-dsp Dmic0 not initial correctly" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992435
[18:19] <tomreyn> jhutchins: right, but i did not know how many reboots had happened since. "last" could have worked as well.
[18:20] <lorn1975> after the latest updated which was run today the sound stopped working
[18:20] <lorn1975> that was the second update i ran since fresh install
[18:21] <tomreyn> lorn1975: try this: sudo apt install alsa-ucm-conf=1.2.6.3-1ubuntu1
[18:21] <lorn1975> k
[18:21] <tomreyn> and reboot, and see whether it fixes sound
[18:22] <lorn1975> k
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> nice find tomreyn
[18:22] <tomreyn> i don't even know whether it's related, i'm just guessing wildly here
[18:24] <lorn1975> i can hear the sound on the boot up but its somewhere too far in the back of the speakers
[18:24] <lorn1975> like the sound is inside the computer not outside
[18:26] <lorn1975> still now sound from Youtbue
[18:26] <lorn1975> Youtube
[18:27] <lorn1975> and like i said i can hear the sound on bootup but its somewhere inside the computer
[18:27] <tomreyn> lorn1975: this sounds like you just have the wrong output set
[18:28] <lorn1975> k
[18:28] <lorn1975> what should i do to fix that
[18:29] <tomreyn> take a screenshot of the "output devices" tab of pavucontrol
[18:30] <tomreyn> and post it to imgur.com, and then copy the url from there to this chat
[18:30] <lorn1975> i m on the other computer
[18:30] <lorn1975> i will pastebin
[18:31] <lorn1975> how do i take screenshot
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> the prt scr button
[18:32] <lorn1975> where does it save the screenshot
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> in your pictures folder
[18:33] <lorn1975> k done
[18:33] <lorn1975> hold
[18:33] <Guest420> How can I make the Visible Columns on Files be persistent, and also the order?
[18:35] <lorn1975> https://imgur.com/a/4zazTW7
[18:35] <tomreyn> Guest420: i *think* they would be by default. which ubuntu version are you running?
[18:36] <tomreyn> lorn1975: the *output devices tab*
[18:36] <lorn1975> k
[18:37] <tomreyn> also note that you have the firefox output stream muted (though this can be a result of some other setting)
[18:37] <lorn1975> k
[18:37] <Guest420> tomreyn: I'm sorry, I wasn't clear: everytime I open files I have to select TYPE on Visible Columns, and then order by type. I want this to be persistent and not have to change it everytime. I'm using focal fossa
[18:37] <tomreyn> try unmuting it though
[18:37] <lorn1975> https://imgur.com/a/YtaS9rZ
[18:38] <tomreyn> lorn1975: does the "Port" drop-down there list anything other than "Speakers"?
[18:38] <lorn1975> headphones
[18:39] <tomreyn> Guest420: no worries! i will give this a try o 20.04 LTS ("Focal Fossa") shortly
[18:40] <tomreyn> lorn1975: and does either of those settings make sound work?
[18:40] <tomreyn> lorn1975: are you abel to unmute those also?
[18:40] <lorn1975> i dont think they are muted
[18:40] <Guest420> alright :)
[18:40] <tomreyn> lorn1975: well it's what they are showing like
[18:41] <tomreyn> (though it also looks greyed out, as if the device is not working)
[18:41] <lorn1975> no but you see if i press the unmuted button then the ornage lines disappear
[18:43] <tomreyn> lorn1975: ah i see what you mean. right, this is what it looks liek when it's *not* muted
[18:43] <lorn1975> yes
[18:44] <tomreyn> lorn1975: what do you expect the sound to come from? do you have external speakers connected?
[18:44] <tomreyn> and can you try plugging in some headphones and switch to headphones and see whether those work?
[18:45] <lorn1975> ok let me see
[18:47] <lorn1975> i plugged int the headphones no sound
[18:48] <lorn1975> can i use the bluetooth headphones
[18:52] <tomreyn> lorn1975: you can give it a try. if the general audio chipset works, that should provide a new, working, output device.
[18:53] <tomreyn> it's not what i meant about plugging in  headphones (to the headphone jack, if any) above, though.
[18:54] <lorn1975> not working
[18:54] <lorn1975> i am thinking of reinstalling the OS
[18:54] <lorn1975> fresh install
[18:55] <tomreyn> if your theory, that the update caused sound to fail, is correct, then that's not likely to help, or not for long.
[18:56] <jhutchins> He could do a fresh install of the previous release.
[18:56] <tomreyn> we seem to have ruled out  alsa-ucm-conf=1.2.6.3-1ubuntu1  as a source of the problem. what remains a possible cause is a kernel update. but you'd still get either with a new installation.
[18:57] <jhutchins> Ubuntu doesn't keep fallback kernels?
[18:57] <tomreyn> yes, trying a different ubuntu release could work. or booting to the earlier kernel version and trying that.
[18:57] <jhutchins> Yeah, like that.
[18:58] <lorn1975> where would i get the previous release of ubuntu that i can put on flashdrive
[18:58] <lorn1975> but it was working with the fresh release of 22.04 LTS
[19:00] <tomreyn> lorn1975: try booting to the grub menu (press escape during boot), and boot the earlier kernel version
[19:00] <lorn1975> k
[19:02] <tomreyn> it should look something like this: https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Grub-Advanced-Options.jpg
[19:02] <lorn1975> i now at the grub>
[19:02] <tomreyn> type "normal" and press enter
[19:02] <tomreyn> this will either bring up the grub menu or reboot
[19:03] <tomreyn> you may have hit escape too often
[19:03] <tomreyn> the "grub>" prompt is what you get when pressing escape again after having the screen on the screenshot
[19:04] <MacOs> Hi guys, so ive been trying to boot ubuntu tru live usb on macos... keep getting the same error tho of "The version of macOS on the selected disk need to be reinstalled".. Already tried 2 iso versions,all permission, idk what to do anymore tbh... Any one had this before?
[19:04] <tomreyn> lorn1975: actually, the first image you should see is like this: https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/ubuntu-grub.jpg
[19:05] <tomreyn> lorn1975: you'd choose "Advanced" there, which would get you the other screen.
[19:05] <MacOs> Yep, doest even show that, show straight to this error
[19:05] <MacOs> maybe usb stick?
[19:06] <tomreyn> MacOs: i wasn't talkng to you, unless you are the same person as lorn1975
[19:06] <MacOs> oh sorry, im not
[19:07] <tomreyn> no worries ;) they have a mac, too
[19:07] <MacOs> seem like ppl have been going thru problems w mac
[19:07] <MacOs> usual stuff
[19:08] <MacOs> '=D
[19:08] <ravage> and lorn1975 got it installed. maybe you can help each other
[19:08] <ravage> booting the mac with your ISO sounds very Mac specific to me
[19:09] <ravage> cant help much with that
[19:09] <tomreyn> MacOs: i'm not really into macs, but the message you're getting seems to suggest that the firmware expected to boot a Mac OS system, which Ubuntu is not. Maybe you need to boot it differently, or write the usb stick differently.
[19:09] <MacOs> ty will try other way of flashing it
[19:10] <tomreyn> MacOs: balena ethcher is known to work well
[19:10] <MacOs> thats the one i used
[19:10] <lorn1975> have balena
[19:10] <MacOs> never failed me, thats why im ???
[19:11] <MacOs> guys recommend other flasher?
[19:11] <tomreyn> MacOs: how to boot your Mac from an ubuntu usb stick can depend on the mac model, though. some may not work at all, or be very complicated.
[19:11] <tomreyn> i'd start by looking up the very mac model and then search the web about how to boot ubuntu there
[19:11] <MacOs> i see ty tomreyn
[19:12] <tomreyn> usually those mac models are called something like "late 2011 iMac 13.3" or similar
[19:12] <Guest420> tomreyn: I fixed that column issue, actually Files had a Preferences settings that I didn't see before :)
[19:12] <tomreyn> Guest420: ah, sorry, i hadn't gottne to this, yet
[19:12] <lorn1975> i am thinking reinstall should do
[19:12] <lorn1975> or should i wait for the next update
[19:13] <Guest420> tomreyn: np at all mate!
[19:13] <tomreyn> Guest420: :) glad you worked it out
[19:13] <Guest420> tomreyn: thanks bro ;)
[19:14] <ravage> i think you will have to accept that you are a bro soon tomreyn :D
[19:14] <tomreyn> apparently so
[19:14] <Gerowen> In a non-grub system (Raspberry Pi), how do I make sure that the system is going to boot into a text/terminal only interface by default?
[19:15] <Gerowen> I'm removing Gnome from a personal server and want to make sure it doesn't hang on startup trying to load ubuntu-gnome-desktop or something that doesn't exist any more.
[19:15] <tomreyn> lorn1975: i already commented on reinstalling, see above. we have not really found the root cause, yet, but you could try an earlier ubuntu release, hoping it will behave differently.
[19:15] <ravage> Gerowen, "sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target"
[19:15] <jhutchins> Gerowen: What bootloader does the Pi use?
[19:15] <tomreyn> lorn1975: i'd attribute this issue to "Mac", which can be a picky firmware + hardware platform.
[19:16] <lorn1975> where can i get ISO of the earlier release
[19:16] <Gerowen> jhutchins: I have no idea, somebody else set it up and asked me to do some cleanup on it, and since I only ever use SSH.  When I looked for /etc/default/grub it doesn't exist.
[19:16] <Gerowen> Meant to say, since I only ever use SSH, no need for GUI utilities.
[19:18] <tomreyn> lorn1975: https://releases.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <tomreyn> https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ubuntu-20.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso would be 20.04 LTS.
[19:32] <alkisg> Gerowen: check if it's /boot/cmdline.txt
[19:33] <alkisg> But what ravage said should work without messing with the kernel command line
[19:36] <Gerowen> alkisg: That file isn't there.  It's no biggie.  I just figure since it's a "server" with no screen even attached to it, he's an OTR truck driver (my brother) and I manage it for him 99% of the time and only use SSH, that since it's a raspberry pi, having gdm3, gnome-shell and all kinds of other stuff installed was just using up space and resources unnecessarily.
[19:37] <lorn1975> why can i not install Focal Fossa
[19:37] <jhutchins> Gerowen: THe ideal solution would be a clean, GUI-free install, but you seem to be headed in the right direction.
[19:39] <jhutchins> Gerowen: It looks like the Pi bootloader is in the firmware.
[19:39] <jhutchins> Gerowen: I would just trust the package manager to handle the cleanup.
[19:39] <jhutchins> Gerowen: What's your fallback if it hangs on boot?
[19:40] <Gerowen> jhutchisn: Just physicall walk down to his house, his house is only like a quarter mile away on the same property here.
[19:41] <Gerowen> jhutchins: Seems fine though, just rebooted after a whole lot of "apt purge --autoremove *x11* *gnome*" and then double check the list of proposed changes for anything essential.
[19:41] <Gerowen> Also checked for packages like ubuntu-gnome-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[19:43] <lorn1975> how do i unzip the balena-etcher.zip again
[19:45] <dkfke> you don't need that crap anymore, just make a fat32 flash drive and extract the contents of the image there
[19:45] <dkfke> flash images are for legacy boot
[19:54] <jhutchins> Gerowen: Sounds good.
[19:55] <jhutchins> Doesn't any recent version of Windows open .zip files automatically?
[20:01] <eelstrebor> can memtester be added to the grub boot menu?
[20:08] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: memtest86 is automatically added when you install the package on a bios booting system
[20:08] <tomreyn> memtester is an application, not an OS
[20:12] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, i'm using uefi so it won't run
[20:12] <eelstrebor> memtest86+ that is
[20:13] <eelstrebor> i just created a bootdisk with memtest 10 so i'm going to reboot and run it
[20:35] <lorn1975> installed Focal Fossa sound still now working
[20:36] <enyc> lorn1975: used not to in particular previous version?
[20:36] <lorn1975> i didnt get your question
[20:37] <enyc> lorn1975: you said the sound is now working after installing focal fossa
[20:38] <lorn1975> negative
[20:38] <lorn1975> not working
[20:38] <enyc> lorn1975: didn't work under bionic or jammy ?
[20:38] <enyc> lorn1975: oh thats not what you said ;o
[20:38] <enyc> lorn1975: tried jammy 22.04 LTS ?
[20:38] <lorn1975> it worked till yesterday
[20:38] <lorn1975> yes i downgraded
[20:38] <enyc> lorn1975: under which ubuntu version, unitl yesterday?
[20:39] <lorn1975> 22.04.1 LTS
[20:39] <Piraty_> i just did a do-release-upgrade. durng cli menu i opted to drop to shell to examine config file diff and managed lock myself out of the menu so i had to kill it , how to get back to it (and resolve the conf file conflicts) ?
[20:39] <lorn1975> i think my speakers burned
[20:39] <enyc> lorn1975: try writing 22.04.1 boot stick, test from that...
[20:39] <enyc> lorn1975: try different speakers or headphones =)
[20:39] <lorn1975> enyc i did
[20:40] <lorn1975> its a hardware problem
[20:40] <lorn1975> i downgraded from Jelly
[20:40] <lorn1975> its still not working
[20:46] <jazzy> is there a command for creating a directory and CD'ing into it?
[20:46] <jazzy> currently just do something like `mkdir dirname; cd dir`
[20:47] <jazzy> not too much trouble, but it's such a common use case you'd think there'd be something built in for it
[20:47] <leftyfb> jazzy: https://gist.github.com/rajeshg/712300
[20:49] <olle> Meh, Disney+ is broken again :( Anyone had the problem? I fixed it last week with user agent in ff, but now it's not enough, it seems.
[20:50] <olle> No wait! The ff update removed the useragent setting maybe
[20:50] <olle> Damn
[20:51] <jazzy> leftyfb, oh cool, thanks
[20:51] <jazzy> I gotta learn to write bash scripts
[21:03] <olle> Fixed with plugin User-Agent Switcher and Manager
[21:03] <jhutchins> olle: What agents does it like vs. block?
[21:05] <olle> jhutchins: Works with Chrome on Windows 10, for example
[21:05] <olle> For some reason, just editing about:config in ff wasn't enough anymore
[21:05] <olle> Maybe some CDN issue or other domain needs to be spoofed too
[21:06] <jhutchins> olle: It's Windows it's looking for, not chrome vs. ff?
[21:41] <kurtgz> Hello. I'm looking for the color palette from GNOME Adwaita theme. I'm trying to customize my firefox extension's colors, and I can't find them described anywhere, unfortunately
[21:48] <olle> jhutchins: hm k
[21:48] <olle> oh a question? dunno
[21:48] <olle> But that's what worked :)
[22:27] <jhutchins> olle: Content providers are notoriously paranoid about anything "open" source.  They figure it can only be pirates.
[22:33] <olle> jhutchins: idiotic
[22:55] <johnnee> .
[22:56] <johnny_Linux> k
[23:11] <omarhanykasba> hi ubuntu fan
[23:11] <omarhanykasba> s
[23:33] <omarhanykasba> anyone?
[23:33] <omarhanykasba> is ubuntu really dead?
[23:33] <omarhanykasba> DEAD!!!!
[23:34] <olle> We're sleeping
[23:34] <ravage> but thanks for the shouting
[23:34] <ravage> not sleeping anymore now...
[23:37] <pycurious> will this work with ubuntu - > https://www.amazon.com/10Gtek-E10G41BTDAG1P5-Ethernet-Converged-X520-DA1/dp/B01LZRSQM9?th=1
[23:38] <ravage> https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&q=E10G42BTDA+ubuntu
[23:39] <ravage> or X520-DA1
[23:39] <ravage> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000055360/ethernet-products.html
[23:40] <ravage> thanks for using the #ubuntu google service
[23:53] <pycurious> ravage: do you know the difference between X520-DA1 and X540-T1?
[23:56] <ravage> no sorry
[23:59]  * jhutchins ponders what sort of a person would be in a situation to know the specific features of two random ethernet devices...