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| synthriffsgirl[m | hello is the latest version of qtractor installed on ubuntu studio? | 17:36 |
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| synthriffsgirl[m | I have latest ubuntu studio | 17:36 |
| OvenWerks | synthriffsgirl[m: so far as I can tell, ubuntu ships 0.9.27 | 18:06 |
| OvenWerks | which is two releases back from https://www.qtractor.org/qtractor-downloads.html | 18:07 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: might be willing to add newer ones to our backports ppa. | 18:08 |
| OvenWerks | It kinda depends on what releases debian has hanging around | 18:09 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | is it possible to update to the latest version? many new features are added in that one | 18:25 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | i'm a beginner, what's meant by 'backports"? | 18:27 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | so currently it's not possible to update to latest qtractor using ubuntu's repository since there is no newer package online, right? | 18:28 |
| OvenWerks | That appears to be correct | 18:28 |
| OvenWerks | my .27 is already from the backports PPA | 18:29 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | I think it's important , because ubuntu studio focuses on audio, graphics, .., to have especially latest versions of those software :) | 18:29 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | backport = ? I don't know why it's called that way | 18:29 |
| OvenWerks | We do try to keep up, but there are constrants to what we can do too. I think our packager is away this week. | 18:29 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | is it generally true the same ubuntu packages are used for ubuntu studio? | 18:30 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | so what i find in ubuntu = what i find in studio? | 18:30 |
| OvenWerks | see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports | 18:30 |
| OvenWerks | it is genmerally true yes, except for the backports PPA which tries to do a better job and often has newer versions than the standard ubuntu versions | 18:31 |
| OvenWerks | synthriffsgirl[m: in ubuntu studio, in the menu under system you should find the ubuntustudio-intaller | 18:32 |
| OvenWerks | At the bottom of that application (applet?) there is a button to enable backports ppa. | 18:33 |
| OvenWerks | if you click on that (and wait while it plays around for a while) normal upgrades will pull in the latest version we have at the time | 18:34 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | thx! | 18:34 |
| OvenWerks | rather than what the main repositories have | 18:34 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | the main repo = the ubuntu one, right? | 18:34 |
| OvenWerks | yes | 18:35 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | so the get specific studio updates, i need the backports? | 18:35 |
| OvenWerks | it is actually a collection of three of them I think. | 18:35 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | ok :) when the packager is back, will the latest qtractor be there ? | 18:35 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | i use it a lot but i have no knowledge of compiling :( i wait for update package | 18:36 |
| OvenWerks | ask Eickmeyer[m] he pops in here once and a while even when away. | 18:36 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | also ardour is 6.9 while 7.0 is here. maybe i can request this too? it's a HUGE update | 18:36 |
| OvenWerks | it sure is, and I expect it is planed (actually 7.1 or maybe 7.2 | 18:37 |
| OvenWerks | I think 7.1 is out but there are some bugs in it that will likely lead to a 7.2 very shortly | 18:37 |
| OvenWerks | I have worked on ardour in the past on remote control stuff such as MIDI controllers and OSC controllers, The foldback monitoring chunk is probably the most visible bit I add to ardour though. but that was all 6.* stuff I have been too busy of late. | 18:40 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | what about adding software synths to ubuntu studio pre-installed? or this not a good idea? | 18:40 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | for example surge-xt, ... | 18:41 |
| OvenWerks | There are some already | 18:41 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | ow! what ones? I didn't see them | 18:41 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | i'm still a beginner :D | 18:41 |
| OvenWerks | two places: look under audio production instruments for one (these will require jack to be running) or from ardour or qtractor use a plugin. | 18:46 |
| OvenWerks | I don't think surge is there though. however, there are downloads for surge for linux on their website: https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/releases-xt/releases | 18:47 |
| OvenWerks | The *.deb file should just install or maybe better use the | 18:48 |
| OvenWerks | surge-xt-linux-1.1.2-pluginsonly.tar.gz download and put them in a place they can be found. gimme a sec. | 18:48 |
| OvenWerks | The archive comes with both lv2 and vst3 plugins. both synth and effects. If you have only one user you can copy or move them into ~/.lv2 or .vst I tend to favour the LV2 versions. | 18:52 |
| OvenWerks | If you feel ardour or qtractor are a bit heavyweight for just running plugins, Carla will work as just a plugin rack. | 18:56 |
| OvenWerks | Yup, that makes noise :) | 19:01 |
| * OvenWerks is anoyed with file names that use spaces | 19:02 | |
| OvenWerks | Surge XT is open source (GPL3.0) and so in theory could be added to ubuntu ( Eickmeyer[m] ??) | 19:06 |
| Eickmeyer | synthriffsgirl[m, OvenWerks: RE: qtractor: I saw some stuff coming from Debian that could be backported, but I've been rather focused on the Ubuntu Summit coming up this next week where I'm presenting. RE: Ardour: 7.0 is in the Ardour Backports, just unannounced (again, time constraints). RE: Surge XT: was working on it, again, time constraints. | 20:07 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: No rush, I think synthriffsgirl[m was just happy that new stuff would just show up if he enabled backports | 20:30 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer[m]: should we add an other button on installer for ardour? :) | 20:30 |
| OvenWerks | maybe not needed. | 20:30 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Nah, it only gets added if Ardour releases a new major version when there's an LTS still hanging around. This is one of those times. Last time we had to this was when 6.0 came out. | 20:45 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: one might argue that all other releases are bug fixes and should be back ported :) | 22:07 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | Eickmeyer: thx. Surge should really be added because it's GREAT | 22:28 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | OvenWerks: if I install the .deb file of surge, should qtractor and ardour find the plugin automatically? Or do I need to do more things? | 22:29 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | OvenWerks: i prefer the .deb because i don't know anything about folders to put my plugins | 22:30 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | OvenWerks: so basically I want to know if the DAWs in ubuntu studio find the plugins automatically after installing a new plugin , using a .deb file. Thanks for the help | 22:34 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | Eickmeyer: can Dexed be added too? https://asb2m10.github.io/dexed/ | 22:37 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | Both dexed and surge-xt have a standalone version so that's cool too to add in the menu somewhere. So they work without a DAW | 22:40 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | as a beginner, I want to ask: is the only fundamental difference between ubuntu and ubuntu studio that studio uses a low latency kernel and ubuntu not? | 22:52 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | (and of course the use of KDE) | 22:52 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | or is there more things different between? | 22:52 |
| synthriffsgirl[m | Eickmeyer: any interest in adding this one too? https://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.io/ I know there is yoshimi already there, but this one is also having a nice GUI :) | 22:57 |
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