[00:36] <zzz> hi. i'm not sure what to do. i had an old ubuntu-server vm where i installed xorg and i3wm just to have a simple interface and today i updated it with do-upgrade-release. all of a sudden i now have a full desktop interface complete with login screen and all. can anyone help me find out what packages i have to remove to go back?
[00:41] <VIA> hey ll, whats a good disk/ssd bechmarking tool for linux/ubuntu ? with gui or comprehensive enough output in terminal idk
[01:03] <WaV> FYI, theres a BIOS update that was rolled out for my Laptop via the "Updates" tab of the Ubuntu Software application that caused my laptop to boot straight into Windows and bypass the grub bootloader. I don't know if this is a bug or intended. I got it working, but just wanted to let someone know.
[01:05] <WaV> Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS if it matters.
[01:44] <JanC> WaV: a BIOS (you mean UEFI firmware, I suppose?) update, was that through fwupd then?  or do they have an APT repository or such for that?
[01:46] <JanC> it sounds like a bug to me
[02:28] <WaV> JanC: yes it would've been through fwupd, but it was installed via the gui frontend that is shipped with Ubuntu.
[04:39] <gebbione> hi all
[05:36] <gebbione> hi folks, https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/default-privileges.html states ... "Installations using Debian packages give you the option of assigning a password." . Do you know how to do that with APT or other?
[05:37] <gebbione> a random password is placed in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf for the debian sys maintain but I would like to be able to set it myself
[06:02] <dabbler> After having apt install the latest update to grub-efi-amd64, I get a message saying that grub failed to install to /dev/sda1 and asking whether I want to continue anyway. If I say no, it just adds again, apparently caught in a loop
[06:02] <dabbler> *asks
[06:05] <dabbler> I also don't know it would fail to write to the filesystem mounted rw on that device in the first place
[06:08] <alkisg> dabbler: can you pastebin the whole terminal output?
[06:14] <dabbler> alkisg: well, I actually did it through aptitude. The error and prompt is in a full-screen graphical dialog
[06:15] <blahboybaz> ifconfig is deprecated?
[06:15] <blahboybaz> Then what replaces it?
[06:15] <alkisg> dabbler: ok, can you pastebin the contents of the dialog, either as text or as image?
[06:15] <alkisg> dabbler: subtle differences matter, e.g. grub-install /dev/sda1 is wrong, grub-install /dev/sda is right...
[06:25] <dabbler> alkisg: can you suggest site for images. pasteboard.co isn't working for some reason
[06:26] <dabbler> There's no space between / and dev
[06:27] <alkisg> !screenshot
[07:41] <mw_> anyone using sxhkd? can't get it to bind pretty standard keysyms, while others work just fine
[07:42] <mw_> super + equal just won't work, but super + Escape works as expected
[07:43] <mw_> watching the status fifo shows it doesn't even catch those strokes
[07:43] <mw_> maybe it's something with kde?
[09:01] <Guest8940> Can anyone tell me if https://askubuntu.com/questions/1439216/ubuntu-22-10-and-citrix-workspace-app-fullscreen-issues is a wayland bug? I've switched to Xorg (as suggested in the post) and all works fine. I've noticed the same discussion in a Citrix forum:
[09:01] <Guest8940> https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/417597-citrix-on-ubuntu-2210-wayland-fullscreen-does-not-work/.
[09:20] <Syzygy> I'm trying to install ubuntu server from an USB stick. When I try to install, I get an error "unable to find a medium containing a live file system", it then prompts for an internet connection and tries to download from releases.ubuntu.com/jammy/ubuntu-22.04-live-server-amd64.iso but that errors out in a 404 error.
[09:21] <Syzygy> I'm not really sure how to continue now.
[09:32] <Syzygy> default url is wrong...
[09:32] <Syzygy> correct url seems to work fine.
[09:43] <Syzygy> weird that the installer is outdated on the newest iso...
[10:49] <pickanick> In Ubuntu 22.04, how does one "make sure the administrator has allocated enough default sized huge pages" as urged in https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/tools/testing/selftests/vm/map_hugetlb.c  ?
[11:22] <spinningCat> can i see how many hdd slots in my computer with a terminal command?
[11:22] <pick> jhutchins: I have heard it is possible that the bad sectors are not actually bad, possibly false negatives (power failure?) and re testing the sectors might clear them. I am not an expert. YMMV
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:20] <dabbler> alkisg: https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KEI2QN
[13:27] <murmel> dabbler: can you update-grub after that?
[13:29] <dabbler> murmel: In a different window, you mean? It's stuck in a loop. It won't take 'no' for an answer.
[13:31] <murmel> dabbler: different window or just say yes
[13:31] <dabbler> It succeeds in a different window
[13:31] <murmel> dabbler: yeah, as it should be /dev/sda not sda1
[13:32] <dabbler> why is it even referring to a block device at all?
[13:32] <murmel> dabbler: because it needs to? or are you on uefi?
[13:32] <dabbler> Instead of /boot/efi/
[13:34] <dabbler>  /boot/efi is on /dev/sda1
[13:37] <murmel> dabbler: can you verify that you are booted in uefi mode by verifying that files are /sys/firmware/efi
[13:37] <spnnngcat> let me repeat my question can i see how many hdd slots in my computer with a terminal command
[13:38] <murmel> spnnngcat: afaik not possible
[13:40] <dabbler> murmel: I have such a directory, yes
[13:41] <murmel> dabbler: yes, but are files in it
[13:41] <dabbler> A few, yes
[13:42] <dabbler> A few subdirs too
[13:43] <murmel> k, for some reason the update tried to install grub in "legacy/bios" mode
[13:43] <murmel> i guess it's a bug
[13:44] <dabbler> murmel: so what do I do?
[13:45] <dabbler> just answer it 'yes'?
[13:46] <dabbler> Oh wonderful, that leads to a loop too
[13:46] <murmel> oO
[13:49] <dabbler> Whether I tell it to continue or not, it just asks the question again
[13:50] <dabbler> Wait, it only asked one more time for some reason
[13:51] <dabbler> Ok, it finished. Should I run grub-config?
[13:54] <dabbler> Or grub-install, rather
[13:54] <lotuspsychj3> spnnngcat: can lsblk -o name,serial , help?
[13:55] <spnnngcat> what i wonder is some laptop has a slot for extra hdd
[13:55] <spnnngcat> i wonder if i have that
[13:56] <lotuspsychj3> spnnngcat: fastest way is screwing open the back of your laptop
[13:56] <spnnngcat> well yeah
[13:56] <spnnngcat> fastest is not safest :D
[13:57] <lotuspsychj3> extra HD bay should be easy to find
[13:58] <spnnngcat> i know a gut that i can trust
[13:58] <spnnngcat> he can help me with tht
[14:01] <dabbler> murmel: 'sudo grub-install --efi-directory /boot/efi --target x86_64-efi' is resulting in "grub-install: error: Can't create file: No such file or directory." There's nothing to indicate what file it's failing to create
[14:03] <dabbler> I bet it's still trying to install to /dev/sda1 in bios mode
[14:09] <alkisg> dabbler: try sudo grub-install --target x86_64-efi /dev/sda
[14:10] <dabbler> alkisg: that won't screw up my disk?
[14:11] <alkisg> dabbler: eh, no?
[14:11] <alkisg> If you installed grub in a partition (sda1), that would screw up the disk...
[14:13] <dabbler>  alkisg: My machine is UEFI, not BIOS
[14:14] <alkisg> dabbler: yes, I know, we started this conversation 8 hours ago :D
[14:15] <dabbler> I remember
[14:15] <EriC^^> i think you'er supposed to do --target=.. and --efi...=/boot/efi
[14:16] <dabbler> EriC^^: me too. But that gave me the error I quoted above
[14:16] <alkisg> root@alkis:#  sudo grub-install --target x86_64-efi /dev/sda
[14:16] <alkisg> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[14:16] <EriC^^> dabbler: what's the back story why are you trying to install grub
[14:16] <alkisg> ...not sure what else to say, I just ran that in my own pc
[14:17] <alkisg> It's been 8 hours dear, just run the command to fix the sda1 mistake already :)
[14:18] <dabbler> EriC^^: a routine update of the grub-efi-amd64 package is leading to an error during the package configuration stage
[14:18] <dabbler> It seems to be treating my installation as bios despite the arguments indicating otherwise
[14:18] <alkisg> EriC^^: screenshot: https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KEI2QN
[14:18] <EriC^^> thanks, yeah was seeing that
[14:19] <EriC^^> odd
[14:19] <alkisg> dabbler: see the title, it's grub-efi there, it's not BIOS. You don't want to install to sda1, you want to install to sda, either on UEFI or BIOS mode
[14:19] <alkisg> (bios = the grub-pc package)
[14:20] <dabbler> EriC^^: /dev/sda1 contains my HFS+ /boot/efi partition, fyi
[14:21] <dabbler> s/partition/file system
[14:22] <EriC^^> oh
[14:24] <dabbler> The fact that it's referring to a block device at all surprises me, makes me think it's trying to install a boot sector
[14:25] <EriC^^> seems someone else has run into a similar issue, also has hfs+ https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=221824
[14:25] <EriC^^> dabbler: what happens if you dont specify anything and just run 'sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi' ?
[14:28] <dabbler> EriC^^: same error
[14:29] <EriC^^> is it updating the file in /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu ?
[14:29] <abderazak> hi
[14:30] <dabbler> EriC^^: Noting the date of that arch forum post, what's weird is that I didn't run into this when I successfully installed grub manually several times a couple months ago
[14:32] <dabbler> It's modifying the boot.efi file under there, yes
[14:32] <dabbler> Based on timestamp
[14:59] <EriC^^> dabbler: aha, that should be enough i guess, i think you're supposed to bless the file again though
[15:01] <dabbler> EriC^^: ok, thanks
[15:01] <EriC^^> dabbler: no problem
[15:03] <EriC^^> dabbler: is the grub package all good? try dpkg -l | grep grub-efi   what's at the start of the packages? ii?
[15:04] <dabbler> alkisg, murmel: thank you both too
[15:04] <dabbler> EriC^^: good Q. Let's see…
[15:04] <EliveLinux_it_02> hi
[15:04] <EliveLinux_it_02> were we are
[15:04] <EliveLinux_it_02> what is this?
[15:04] <chromebittin> the Ubuntu Linux Support channel on Libera
[15:04] <EliveLinux_it_02> thanks
[15:05] <dabbler> EriC^^: yes, they all start with 'ii'
[15:05] <dabbler> So I should be good?
[15:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:08] <debian> hi
[15:08] <dabbler> EriC^^: cool
[15:15] <chromebittin> hi
[15:53] <Macwinner> is there a tool that you can use to call a command on the cli, and it records how much bandwidth the command used?
[15:54] <Macwinner> i tried /usr/bin/time  with %s and %r, but doesn't seem to show anything.. but it could be because the command I'm running is wrapping another command
[15:59] <jhutchins> Macwinner: You could probably watch the interface with wireshark while you run the command.
[16:00] <jhutchins> What are you running, and what are you trying to find out>
[16:00] <jhutchins> ?
[16:04] <Macwinner> jhutchins: it's a custom nodejs program that syncs some data from mongodb.  I want to report how much bandwidth was saved by some code updates.
[16:05] <Macwinner> the problem is there are many services talking to mongo at the same time.. so not sure how to isolate this specific process
[16:09] <oerheks> !info nethogs
[16:28] <wad_> I'm (unfortunately) using wsl now. First thing I do is launch a whole bunch of tabs (running bash) in my terminal. Any idea how to get my ssh agent running for all of them? I can't run eval $(ssh-agent) for each, because then I need to re-enter my passphrase hundreds of times.
[16:46] <xubplus> whats up
[16:46] <Sven_vB> hi :) I'm looking for a Ubuntu focal replacement of my Windows censor bar. It's a blank window I can move around, and clicking it toggles between that and borderless always-on-top all-black rectangle. Any ideas?
[16:46] <xubplus> i am on 22.10
[16:47] <xubplus> hello thymage
[16:47] <xubplus> welcome to the land of humanity
[16:47] <xubplus> also known as ubuntu
[16:47] <respawn> xubplus: welcome this is ubuntu help channel if you need help ask here
[16:48] <xubplus> if you need help, ask here
[16:48] <xubplus> respawn?: i know
[16:49] <xubplus> goodbye czesmir
[16:49] <xubplus> atlef: hello and welkom to humanity land
[16:49] <xubplus> if you need help, then ask
[16:49] <Sven_vB> considering that in xfce I don't need a window border to move and resize a window, and I can toggle always-on-top via window menu, probably all I need is a borderless all-black window. is there an easy way to spawn that?
[16:50] <xubplus> Sven_vB: I am on Xubuntu 22.10, so that's a coincidence
[16:50] <ravage> !chat | xubplus
[16:50] <xubplus> guess i better head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:50] <ravage> if you want to talk about Ubuntu and do not have a support question use #ubuntu-discuss
[16:52] <Sven_vB> I'll try and find a way to make ImageMagick's "display" tool do it.
[16:54] <xubplus> I'm back
[16:56] <mybalzitch> hell back
[16:56] <mybalzitch> o
[16:57] <johnfg> Hi guys!  May I ask about the ubuntu/discord desktop app here?
[16:59] <oerheks> johnfg, sure, but the discord snap is proprietary software, https://snapcraft.io/discord
[17:00] <xubplus> mybalzitch: your username tho >_<
[17:06] <MonoL> Omg I'm in fish now
[17:06] <MonoL> Idk how I did it
[17:07] <MonoL> I restarted my machine and opened the terminal and it said welcome to fish
[17:07] <MonoL> And now I can't get back to bash
[17:07] <jhutchins> This is why we take notes.
[17:08] <jhutchins> MonoL: There's more than one way to get "back" to bash, but it would be best to reverse whatever you did.
[17:11] <MonoL> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-install-and-configure-fish-shell-in-ubuntu/
[17:11] <MonoL> I followed this
[17:11] <MonoL> And it didn't work
[17:11] <MonoL> until I restarted the machine and then fish was there
[17:12] <oerheks> sounds logical
[17:12] <oerheks> change sudo chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish to sudo chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash and logout/login again?
[17:13] <oerheks> or the line in your howto; sudo chsh -s 'which bash'
[17:13] <jhutchins> He wanted fish, let him eat fish.
[17:15] <MonoL> chsh: /usr/local/bin/bash is an invalid shell
[17:16] <MonoL> sudo chsh -s 'which bash'
[17:16] <MonoL> chsh: PAM: Authentication failure
[17:23] <MonoL> So it says chsh: PAM: Authentication failure and then I restart the machine and the shell is now bash again
[17:23] <MonoL> So there must be some strange system permissions going on
[17:23] <MonoL> idk
[17:24] <MonoL> Doesn't matter
[17:29] <johnfg> oerheks: I tried #discord, but I was the only one there, i.e., a new channel.  All that's going on is that at the top right of my screen, I started having 2 discord icons.
[17:29] <johnfg> If I close one, it closes all of discord.  Not a big deal, but I'd rather go back to having one.
[17:33] <oerheks> johnfg, file a bug with the maintainer? lots of bugreports about this binairy blob https://askubuntu.com/questions/1432279/discord-showing-two-tray-icons-after-update
[18:07] <ravage> But looks like it is fixed already
[18:07] <ahasenack> https://status.snapcraft.io/ and https://status.canonical.com/ are good references
[18:08] <sarnold> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/outage-of-snap-refresh-search-downloads/32573
[18:16] <johnfg> oerheks: Thanks, I'm going to try the .deb method and see if that works.
[18:17] <oerheks> that gives other and same issues, according to that post, good luck!
[19:57] <hyperknot> Hi, what can I do, snap is timing out for all commands, even snap refresh core.
[19:58] <hyperknot> error: cannot refresh "core": cannot query the store for updates: got unexpected HTTP status code
[19:58] <hyperknot>        503 via POST to "https://api.snapcraft.io/v2/snaps/refresh"
[19:58] <ravage> hyperknot, https://status.snapcraft.io/ not much. wait until it is fixed
[19:59] <hyperknot> ravage: ok, thanks, I will
[20:20] <lenswipe> hey folks - quick question
[20:20] <lenswipe> am I correct in thinking that Ubuntu server is just Ubuntu desktop without the GUI?
[20:22] <ravage> there are some differences but in general that is correct
[20:22] <lenswipe> context: I don't overly care for the default Ubuntu desktop environment. I was thinking of installing Ubuntu server and then installing GNOME manually
[20:23] <ravage> which is..GNOME
[20:25] <sarnold> lenswipe: yeah sure, should be fine. I did an install with debootstrap on my laptop and then installed i3wm, networkmanager, etc by hand
[20:30] <johnnee> I want to thank all groups fort their time and efforts
[20:30] <johnnee> for ^
[20:34] <lenswipe> ravage, wait, it is? I thought it was Unity?
[20:34] <ravage> that was until 16.04 or so
[20:34] <lenswipe> Ah
[20:34] <lenswipe> I haven't used Ubuntu for YEARS
[20:35] <ELFrederich> How can I clean up /var/log/journal?  I've got 4.0G there
[20:36] <ELFrederich> After googling, I found this... is it safe to run?  journalctl --vacuum-time=10d
[20:36] <sarnold> ELFrederich: journalctl has a bunch of options, eg --vacuum-size=, --vacuum-time=, also consider adding --rotate, if you're really looking to trim it down a bit
[20:37] <johnnee> Individuals that have personal discrepancies as to the forefront overture in all cases need comply. I Am an investigator for the people that count in the revelent future as well as the immediate countenance afforded and relevant council,   do hearby request relevant informations,  pertaining to the subjugated changes AS requested.  Thank you for your time and efforts.
[20:37] <ravage> i usually set something like SystemMaxUse=1G in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
[20:38] <ravage> just to make sure it does not grow too big
[20:38] <ELFrederich> I guess it just grows unbounded?
[20:39] <ravage> im not sure. someone said it adapts to your free storage. but i dont trust it :)
[20:40] <sarnold> they're described at https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journald.conf.html#SystemMaxUse=
[20:40] <johnnee> I am 79 yrs old,, and I approve this message.
[20:40] <sarnold> (journald.conf(5) locally if you want)
[20:41] <johnnee> Thank You For Your Tine And Efforts.
[20:41] <ravage> would you give a little silence time sarnold ?
[20:41] <sarnold> ravage: what do you mean?
[20:42] <ravage> johnnee keeps spamming here daily really with the same useless sentences
[20:42] <ravage> they never make sense
[20:43] <sarnold> ravage: aha, thanks
[20:43] <sarnold> johnnee: please do keep this channel for ubuntu support questions and answers; idle chat is better in #ubuntu-offtopic :) thanks
[20:44] <johnnee> yes sir.
[20:46] <johnnee> sarnold:   they murdered my son.. ask me how... i digress . thank you.
[20:47] <johnnee> My last rant was... how  .. attorneys work.. i digress and will.. quiet.. thanks..
[21:22] <cart_man> Hi everyone. I literally just finished installing Kubuntu. I tried doing sudo apt update and got this error -> https://hastebin.com/kijobenede.sql
[21:22] <cart_man> How is this possible? I only installed VSCode with a .deb file using sudo apt install -f ./debfile
[21:22] <ravage> cart_man, you installed an EOL version
[21:23] <ravage> you want https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.10/release/kubuntu-22.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:23] <ravage> or https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.04.1/release/kubuntu-22.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:23] <ravage> for the LTS version
[21:23] <cart_man> OMG
[21:24] <cart_man> ravage: Do you have a nice tool I can make a bootable USB from an ISO?
[21:24] <ravage> ubuntu comes with one
[21:24] <ravage> startup disk creator
[21:25] <cart_man> ravage: Thank you
[21:25] <bm> Is it just me or does Ubuntu 22.04 feel way, way more sluggish than Ubuntu 20.04
[21:26] <ravage> its just you
[21:26] <bm> Like, i don't know, it has lower framerate or something
[21:27] <bm> I'm running two VM windows next to each other and I can feel the difference, and after installing it on other machine I felt like something was wrong with it because it was running so slowly
[21:30] <bm> driving me nuts to be honest
[21:34] <cart_man> ravage: Out of interest. If I installed the same EOL version but ticked the box that says update... will the same thing happen?
[21:35] <ravage> yes
[21:35] <cart_man> hmmm
[21:35] <cart_man> interesting
[21:37] <zzz> can we prevent chromium from stealing focus when opening an external link?
[21:38] <ravage> zzz, google says https://www.thewindowsclub.com/force-links-to-open-in-background-firefox-chrome
[21:39] <ravage> -> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/force-background-tab/gidlfommnbibbmegmgajdbikelkdcmcl
[21:42] <zzz> this prevents new tabs from focusing inside of the browser. i want the browser to stop stealing focus from other windows when opening an *external* link
[21:43] <zzz> it was simple enough to achieve this in firefox
[21:43] <ravage> i guess you have to google yourself then
[21:43] <zzz> i did
[21:43] <zzz> thanks anyway
[21:44] <bm> Good lord, the performance issues with 22.04 are actually a real issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1973434
[21:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1973434 in linux (Ubuntu) "massive performance issues since 22.04 upgrade" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:53] <squarecircle> hi. running 22.04.1 on an Lenvo P14s and experiencing very annoying network problems. Pinging 9.9.9.9 just dont work, websites loading slow, if they load at all
[21:55] <sarnold> squarecircle: do other machines on the same network work okay?
[21:56] <ravage> my wild guess would be a wifi problem. did you try a cable?
[21:57] <Jeremy31> Might be something caused by wifi power management
[21:58] <squarecircle> sarnold: yes
[21:58] <squarecircle> ravage: n0pe, failing on ethernet too
[21:59] <Jeremy31> Did you manually make the settings in Network Manager?
[21:59] <squarecircle> ok, no on ethernet it's better
[21:59] <squarecircle> Jeremy31: n0pe
[22:00] <ravage> squarecircle, maybe there is a better wifi driver available for your laptop. can you find out which one is used?
[22:01] <squarecircle> but I set the dns to 9.9.9.9, to exclude dns fuckup in my router
[22:02] <squarecircle> its an very weird situation - a new P14s, and neither Ubuntu nor Debian (stable/testing) run on this machine, in combination with my home network
[22:02] <Jeremy31> squarecircle: run the 2 commands @ https://gist.github.com/jeremyb31/a2bee9856d8c13f42f1835bc31bf9480 in terminal and post the termbin URL after the second command is done
[22:06] <squarecircle> https://termbin.com/9sv9
[22:08] <squarecircle> this is quite the invasive script
[22:10] <squarecircle> but I appreciate the authors intent to atleast hide the mac addresses :)
[22:13] <squarecircle> ravage: don't know, how it affects my ethernet network, if its disabled?
[22:13] <squarecircle> Jeremy31: and?
[22:14] <squarecircle> thing is: https://bpa.st/IRAQ
[22:14] <ravage> squarecircle, so your ethernet has problems too?
[22:15] <Jeremy31> squarecircle: You might want to edit network connection to set IPv6 to disabled
[22:15] <squarecircle> I don't even know, why it just fails for some seconds, like 40 seconds timeout, then works fine, better on ethernet, then on wifi
[22:15] <sarnold> 20% packet loss, 14 errors, ouch
[22:15] <squarecircle> Jeremy31: I'll give it a try
[22:16] <ravage> can you ping 192.168.178.1 for a while?
[22:16] <squarecircle> ravage: sure
[22:16] <ravage> but the error message really looks like it is a local problem
[22:16] <Jeremy31> squarecircle: wifi power management is enabled, in terminal>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && sudo iwconfig wlp3s0 power off
[22:17] <squarecircle> Its only this machine, my T460, X200s, X220i, all work perfectly fine
[22:17] <squarecircle> Jeremy31: how does the wifi power management influences the ethernet controller?
[22:18] <Jeremy31> It doesn't but should help the wifi work
[22:23] <squarecircle> hmm, ravage I got connection loss to the router the same moment als I couldnt ping quad9 anymore
[22:25] <ravage> squarecircle, did you have that problem since you installed it? or did you install it today?
[22:25] <squarecircle> ravage: since the moment I first installed Debian on it
[22:25] <squarecircle> ravage: I first tried Debian testing, and now trying Ubuntu
[22:25] <ravage> those are totally different kernels too
[22:25] <ravage> really strange
[22:26] <squarecircle> yup
[22:26] <squarecircle> which lets me think, its the machine, thats broken
[22:26] <ravage> do you maybe have a way to connect another computer directly 1:1 and see if you still get problems with a static ip on both sides?
[22:26] <squarecircle> because other machines with a zoo of different OSes work fine
[22:27] <ravage> i mean you could try the evil OS on it. just to use the OS it usually works on
[22:27] <ravage> and to rule out a hardware problem
[22:29] <squarecircle> Or this special machine with this special router - I did use the machine in another network - I cant remember any problems
[22:29] <squarecircle> which gets me wondering
[22:29] <ravage> then a direct connection to another computer should work
[22:29] <Jeremy31> squarecircle: Have you restarted the router?
[22:30] <ravage> or you can also try to ping another client on your network
[22:30] <ravage> that at least only demands switching from the router
[22:30] <squarecircle> Jeremy31: I'll do it
[22:31] <ravage> reboot is always a good idea
[22:37] <lenswipe> hey folks
[22:38] <lenswipe> just installed a new ubuntu desktop and the built in webcam (laptop) isn't working in cheese
[22:38] <lenswipe> are there some drivers i can install or something
[22:38] <squarecircle> switched the router for the old one, that was switched out, two weeks ago
[22:39] <squarecircle> that would be hilarious though, if the new router would be the problem xD
[22:40] <daedric> Wouldn't be the first time...
[22:43] <crax23> lenswipe, if it doesn't work out of the box, it will be annoying, you got to try with 'lsusb' or 'lspci' to see what webcam it is, and look online on the ubuntu forum if someone got it working. You need to check what model/chipset it is, then you'd probably have to build drivers yourself which is not so fun.
[22:49] <evils[m]> hi, my dad pressed ok on the pop-up to update his 20.04 to 22.04 and now his machine boots into emergency mode
[22:50] <evils[m]> logging in in emergency mode and doing systemctl default yields the following
[22:50] <evils[m]> Failed to start default.target: Transaction for graphical.target/start is destructive (emergency.target has 'start' job queued, but 'stop' is included in transaction.
[22:54] <squarecircle> ok, router reset to factory settings, resetup with telco settings, now its time to wait :)
[22:58] <lenswipe> crax23, oh boy
[23:26] <FNAShinobi> My desktop keeps freezing. This is pretty new behavior and it's getting more frequent. Can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[23:34] <daedric> completly locked ?
[23:34] <FNAShinobi> Yes, no mouse, keyboard, I have to reset
[23:35] <FNAShinobi> Is there a decent log utility? This gnome logs is useless
[23:36] <sarnold> journalctl -e is a good starting point
[23:42] <FNAShinobi> I see a ton of modesets is that normal?