[00:24] <jpmh> when I perform the arp command it lists a load of devices that I have indeed connected to .  But many of them it was a long time ago.  How long is this cache maintained?
[00:31] <jamcinnaminusr> I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 with Cinnamon desktop
[01:45] <tomreyn> jpmh: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/kinetic/en/man7/arp.7.html see gc_thresh1 + gc_stale_time
[03:10] <DoRoad> Hello everyone
[03:10] <DoRoad> Is anyone here?
[03:11] <ravage> hello DoRoad
[03:11] <DoRoad> ravage: How can I save my public IP every time I connect to?
[03:12] <DoRoad> I could write a script but I think there are some automatic tools
[03:12] <rollappuser> wat
[03:12] <DoRoad> What?
[03:13] <ravage> DoRoad, connect to what?
[03:13] <DoRoad> ravage: to the net of course
[03:14] <ravage> and how do you connect to "the net" ?
[03:15] <DoRoad> Jesus man
[03:15] <octav1a> ♫ goin surfin' on the inter'net ♫
[03:15] <ravage> never heard of that connection method
[03:15] <DoRoad> I could write a script that saves to the log my public IP
[03:15] <DoRoad> But I forgot bash
[03:17] <ravage> time to restore a brain backup then i guess
[03:17] <DoRoad> Or use stack exchange
[03:20] <DoRoad> ravage: to be honest in my situation the best I can do is getting lorry licence
[03:21] <DoRoad> I'm from a poor family I had to learn linux/unix myself and it sucks
[03:21] <ravage> !ot | DoRoad
[03:22] <ravage> there is also #bash
[03:23] <DoRoad> So, talking on the topic... Ubuntu is not an alternative for non-tech users. I mean not even a computer technicians
[03:23] <ravage> that is not a support topic. feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-discuss
[04:24] <hiya> I have a question about firmware updates, my thinkpad T16 has a pending update for bios
[04:24] <hiya> and yet it won't show in Gnome Software or anything in ubuntu
[04:24] <hiya> do I need to add it or do it manually only?
[04:25] <hiya> Also they allow it using fwupdate and fwupdmgr which tool is better?
[04:25] <ravage> bios updates nevers showed up in fwupd for me
[04:25] <hiya> ok
[04:25] <hiya> So which tool is better? fwupdate of fwupdmgr?
[04:25] <hiya> I have secureboot with password on
[04:35] <Bashing-om> hiya: Please see in  terminal ' man fwupdate ' where the debugging utility is depreciated.
[04:48] <mister_mm> hello; does anyone know how I can create a "toggle" for the shift key? To type a ``*'' for instance, I'd like to hit [shift] 8 [shift]. The first tap of [shift] would toggle shift to be "held" and the second would turn it off.
[04:49] <mister_mm> I'd like to do this for accessibility reasons
[04:50] <rbox> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/224827/how-do-i-enable-shift-lock-sticky-shift-key
[04:51] <ravage> mister_mm: maybe one of the tweaks here can be useful to you: https://i.imgur.com/S3ega5N.png  ( sudo apt install gnome-tweaks )
[04:55] <mister_mm> I have caps lock bound as control already
[04:55] <mister_mm> I don't know that I can overload it
[04:55] <mister_mm> seems like maybe doing something with xmodmap whatever that is probably is the answer
[05:03] <mister_mm> I think that I can get the desired behavior through enabling "sticky keys" in the accessibility settings under ``Typing Assist (AccessX)'' under the typing section
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> !info input-remapper | mister_mm maybe?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> i recently mapped my tab to right ctrl with it
[05:45] <Umeaboy> What's the channel for questions related to Launchpad and the way it's working?
[05:46] <Umeaboy> Found it....
[08:11] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i am using chromium , with about 150 tabs ... the browser gets stuck for 2 seconds when i switch from one tab to another... i have 32gb ram no issues there, ssd (so fast disk), cpu is i5 7400 with decent igpu that is not bottlenecking .... google chrome works fine ... how to diagnose whats causing chromium to freeze every few seconds ?
[10:51] <Schnoerbel> look for Help
[10:52] <EriC^^> Schnoerbel: ask the question or explain the problem
[11:28] <Guest6882> hi
[11:31] <Guest6882> why i get no installation candidate on my ubuntu xfce
[12:37] <nedbat> I'm running a pile of code (a bug reproducer) and it eventually fails in Python with `Could not run curl-config: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'curl-config'`.  I can't seem to find how to install this command.  What am I missing?
[12:39] <tomreyn> an installation of apt-file, so that you cuold search for this command, to learn which package provides it
[12:39] <tomreyn> or a search on https://packages.ubuntu.com where you can learn the same
[12:39] <lsd|2> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-curl-command-on-a-ubuntu-linux/?
[12:39] <tomreyn> or someone here telling you that you need libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[12:41] <tomreyn> or libcurl4-nss-dev, or libcurl4-openssl-dev
[12:41] <nedbat> tomreyn: thanks, I found that package from the search, but my docker container is unable to install it.
[12:41] <nedbat> tomreyn: do I need to add other sources for packages?
[12:42] <nedbat> tomreyn: does this page https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libcurl4-gnutls-dev tell me something I need to do? Sorry, this is new to me.
[12:42] <tomreyn> depends on which apt sources you have now, i guess
[12:42] <tomreyn> but it's in main, so, probably not
[12:43] <tomreyn> nedbat: this page tells you about the libcurl4-gnutls-dev package in Ubuntu "jammy", so 22.04
[12:44] <nedbat> tomreyn: right, i'm using jammy
[12:44] <tomreyn> i might be able to provide more help if you would be more verbose about "my docker container is unable to install it"
[12:44] <tomreyn> !paste
[12:44] <tomreyn> you're basically saying "it does not work"
[12:45] <nedbat> tomreyn: https://gist.github.com/nedbat/e78962e4e3768e156e494100ea2cff7b (btw, dpaste.com said i was rate-limited the first time I tried to make a paste)
[12:45] <nedbat> tomreyn: i'm not sure what other information would be helpful
[12:48] <tomreyn> apt policy libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[12:48] <tomreyn> and  apt-policy
[12:48] <tomreyn> and make sure you run  sudo apt update    first of all
[12:49] <tomreyn> nedbat: ^
[12:49] <tomreyn> you can use another pastebin-like service (i like termbin.com) if it helps.
[12:50] <nedbat> tomreyn: i guess `sudo apt update` was what I needed.  My dockerfile has `apt-get update`, I'm not sure how that is different.
[12:51] <tomreyn> both would update the apt cache (or fail to do so)
[12:53] <nedbat> tomreyn: are those caches in /var/lib/apt/lists/* ?
[12:53] <tomreyn> i think the only differece is in the tools' output formatting
[12:53] <tomreyn> yes
[12:53] <nedbat> tomreyn: ok, that was bad advice in the dockerfile then, to remove those.
[12:54] <tomreyn> as far as i know part of the concept of docker is that you don't install software after the image was created
[12:55] <nedbat> tomreyn: yes, usually. but i'm trying to create a sandbox in which to run untrusted code, so I will need to install more things sometimes.
[12:57] <tomreyn> makes sense, if you consider docker to provide sufficient isolation to run untrusted code
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:58] <nedbat> tomreyn: it's defintely more isolation than not using docker, but i hear you
[13:00] <Dumbo> whats new in russia?
[13:00] <tomreyn> !ot | Dumbo
[13:20] <xatrix> Hi, can you advice. I'm trying to remove deprecated
[13:21] <xatrix> 'apt-key' gpg key. But it doesn't want to. If i list keys again. 'apt-key list' it seems like appear again in the list
[13:21] <xatrix> please, take a look at the screenshot https://imgur.com/jvZZ8If.png
[13:21] <xatrix> Is there any way to remove it ?
[13:23] <tomreyn> xatrix: which key are you trying to remove?
[13:23] <xatrix> tomreyn: GitLab B.V. (package repository signing key) <packages@gitlab.com>
[13:24] <tomreyn> xatrix: just delete the file then - its location is printed on your screen
[13:24] <tomreyn> please try to use a pastebin-like tool when sharing text in the future.
[13:25] <tomreyn> !paste
[13:25] <xatrix> tomreyn: ok. got it
[13:27] <xatrix> Any idea ?
[13:28] <tomreyn> any idea on what?
[13:28] <oerheks> just remove the .../gitlab_key.gpg ?
[13:28] <oerheks> as tom said
[13:29] <xatrix> Ah... got it. Didn't see the message you posted me before. Yea, i deleted the key. And now, it's not on the list. Thanks!
[14:05] <ylwghst> Hey, I have weird issue. Everything works fine on livecd boot. On my real system my wlan device rtl8821ae is always unavailable, can not scan network or use it in any way.
[14:06] <nedbat> what is it that changes my terminal title when logging in to ubuntu, and is there a way to make it stop?
[14:06] <tomreyn> ylwghst: which ubuntu versions and kernel versions are you comparing there?
[14:06] <ravage> ylwghst: "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[14:07] <ylwghst> rfkill is not issue it's always unblocked everything seems just fine i have tried all basic things and i have tried several different kernels and it's pretty much same with any kernel
[14:07] <ylwghst> i suspect only thing might be wrong is wpa_supplicant?
[14:07] <ylwghst> $ iw dev wlp4s0 scan -> command failed: Network is down (-100)
[14:08] <ylwghst> @tomreyn 22.10 but it happens with any kernel at the moment
[14:09] <ravage> ylwghst: did you try "ip link set wlp4s0 up"
[14:10] <ylwghst> yep has no effect
[14:10] <ylwghst> $ nmcli d => wlp4s0  wifi      unavailable  --
[14:11] <ylwghst> whatever i do this state never changes
[14:11] <tomreyn> what do your system logs say about when the device is initialized during boot?
[14:12] <leftyfb> ylwghst: just qant to add in here, wpa_supplicant has nothing to do with any of this. It is not required to load drivers or bring up an interface.
[14:12] <leftyfb> qant/want
[14:12] <ylwghst> drivers are loaded
[14:14] <ylwghst> do you want full dmesg or grep rtl8821ae is sufficient
[14:15] <tomreyn> the second is probably not enough, but even that would be a good start
[14:15] <ylwghst> it enables device 000 -> 0003, loads firmware and then 0000:04:00.0 wlp4s0: renamed from wlan0
[14:15] <ylwghst> ok
[14:15] <ylwghst> nothing strange at all
[14:16] <leftyfb> ylwghst: ls -l /sys/class/net/wl*
[14:17] <ylwghst> https://pastebin.com/Cm69ZWhV
[14:18] <xatrix> One more question. I have 22.04 LTS, and i have Lenovo G50 laptop. It has hybrid graphics Intel/[AMD/ATI] Sun LE [Radeon HD 8550M / R5 M230]. And i can't make it work as it should. I tried to load my X.org with 'radeon' driver in xorg.conf, and 'amdgpu' but it doesn't see my screen output. https://pastebin.com/m9YHdZZw
[14:18] <tomreyn> ylwghst: please use ubuntu kernels.
[14:18] <ylwghst> here is ls -l https://pastebin.com/7kiiMSm1
[14:19] <ylwghst> i can use ubuntu kernel it's behaves same on any kernel
[14:19] <ylwghst> it's something weird
[14:21] <ylwghst> at this point i'm just really what is it
[14:21] <ylwghst> really curious*
[14:21] <Jeremy31> sudo cat /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state
[14:24] <ylwghst> https://pastebin.com/bDFmbx2U
[14:26] <tomreyn> xatrix: first of all, update your bios, if you haven't done that, yet
[14:26] <nedbat> does everyone just live with their terminal window title changing when they log in to an ubuntu box?
[14:28] <oerheks> nedbat, why does that bother you?
[14:29] <ravage> i dont even understad the problem
[14:29] <lotuspsychj3> maybe nedbat needs a dropdown terminal?
[14:29] <nedbat> oerheks: because I like to set the window title to the task I am working on, and if I start a docker container as part of that, it changes away from the title I chose.
[14:35] <tomreyn> ylwghst: while i haven't seen a dmesg with ubuntu kernel and default kernel options, i bet this issue would not occur on an unmodified, fully updated ubuntu installation
[14:55] <Square> Not that its a problem for me, but resuming a suspended ubuntu 22.04 install will show whatever is on screen before actually showing the unlock prompt.
[15:04] <xatrix> tomreyn: yea, i have most recent. But it's a dated laptop a bit
[15:06] <tomreyn> xatrix: those old AMD integrated graphics chipsets from the SI/CI generation are not fun to deal with, sadly.
[15:07] <tomreyn> your kernel cmdline suggests you already noticed this. ;)
[15:08] <oerheks> SiS does only Vesa mode?
[15:08] <xatrix> yea, i'm trying too much time to solve it. but, you think, there's no way to fix it ? is it ?
[15:09] <lotuspsychj3> maybe a lubuntu likes it more?
[15:09] <lotuspsychj3> !amd | xatrix see also
[15:10] <tomreyn> xatrix: i'm not sure what exactly isn't working, did you discuss this, yet?
[15:11] <xatrix> yea, i'm talking about radeon driver. it sounds as it detects my card. but it doesn't make it run
[15:11] <xatrix> also, i have it PWRDyn down in vgaswitcheroo
[15:11] <xatrix> tomreyn: yea, maybe a half a year ago
[15:11] <tomreyn> your kernel command line would prevent radeon from using your hardware
[15:12] <tomreyn> radeon.si_support=0
[15:12] <xatrix> When i enable my AMD card in bios, i can't load my Xserver, because of AMD/Radeon driver says:
[15:13] <xatrix> (WW) AMDGPU(1): No outputs definitely connected, trying again...
[15:13] <xatrix>  AMDGPU(1): Unable to find connected outputs - setting 1024x768 initial framebuffer
[15:13] <xatrix> Radeon drivers does the same
[15:13] <xatrix> i tried various combination of radeon.si_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=1, and vice versa
[15:14] <xatrix> by the way, intel driver can detect the outputs
[15:23] <tomreyn> xatrix: sorry, i wouldn't know, never had this hardware, so all i have seen are others reports online, which seem to be mixed.
[15:23] <xatrix> Yea
[15:25] <lotuspsychj3> xatrix: maybe share your dmesg and the output of lshw -C video volunteers might be able to see more of whats happening
[15:25] <xatrix> sure, it's all inside the https://pastebin.com/m9YHdZZw post, i sent here before
[15:26] <lotuspsychj3> that was not the full dmesg xatrix
[15:26] <xatrix> nothing changes if i switch to radeon driver. it will be the same picture
[15:26] <xatrix> lotuspsychj3: ok.. i'll do the full dmesg. give me some time to pls
[15:26] <lotuspsychj3> we also cant see the driver= part of lshw
[15:27] <xatrix> ah. ok
[15:27] <xatrix> give me a second, i'll switch back to my discreet graphics
[15:32] <xatrix> This is my dmesg: https://paste.debian.net/1260456/ This is Xorg.0.log: https://paste.debian.net/1260457/ And this is the lshw: https://paste.debian.net/1260458/
[15:34] <xatrix> lotuspsychj3: maybe you can advice something ?
[15:34] <lotuspsychj3> reading
[15:34] <xatrix> i'm sorry
[15:37] <lotuspsychj3> xatrix: lshw shows both driver modules are loaded so that would be a good thing, but in dmesg you get some; kernel: radeon 0000:03:00.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x0000000080000c00 wich would be not too good
[15:38] <lotuspsychj3> radeon: unknown parameter 'drm' ignored
[15:39] <lotuspsychj3> xatrix: a few ideas rising my mind would be, checking for bios/firmware updates, trying other ubuntu releases/kernels/flavours to compare
[15:40] <lotuspsychj3> xatrix: did you have earlier ubuntu releases working on this same box?
[15:41] <lotuspsychj3> Unknown kernel command line parameters "BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-52-generic biosdevname=0", will be passed to user space.
[15:41] <xatrix> Ubuntu 18. was running good. but i can't stay forever on 18 :)
[15:42] <lotuspsychj3> yeah i ran radeon card for years till 18.04 myself properly
[15:42] <xatrix> biosdevname it's for my network interfaces to be called as eth0... intead of enp0s1...
[15:42] <bparker> tryimg to boot the 22.04 server ISO gets stuck for me at "waiting for cloud-init..." forever
[15:42] <bparker> I am not using any cloud
[15:43] <bparker> any ideas?
[15:44] <lotuspsychj3> xatrix: i had great luck with lubuntu 20.04 on ancient boxes/hardware
[15:44] <tomreyn> bparker: does it happen with 22.04.1? was the iso written properly to the installation media?
[15:44] <xatrix> yes, but i dont want to gowngrade to :)
[15:44] <xatrix> maybe there's some forums or github isses, where i can post the debug info ?
[15:45] <lotuspsychj3> first play the compare game xatrix
[15:45] <xatrix> such as radeon driver or ubuntu stuff?
[15:45] <xatrix> compare game ? sorry ?
[15:45] <bparker> no idea about .1 but I'm booting the iso from grub from the internal storage (with "toram" option)
[15:45] <bparker> because this thing currently runs 18.04 but I want to upgrade with a clean install and I have no external storage here
[15:46] <tomreyn> bparker: hmm i'm guessing that's related to the problem you're experiencing.
[15:46] <tomreyn> can't boot it from nfs or a virtual cdrom?
[15:46] <bparker> nope
[15:47] <bparker> unless there is a way to do it over wifi
[15:48] <lotuspsychj3> xatrix: downgrading ubuntu isnt possible, so comparing with other ubuntu releases/kernels/flavours as suggested above
[15:48] <xatrix> yea, i know, that 18.04 will be running good. but i'd like to stay at recent verison
[15:53] <tomreyn> xatrix: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/g50-70-notebook-lenovo/20351/downloads/ds100522-bios-update-for-windows-7-32-bit-64-bit-windows-81-32-bit-64-bit-lenovo-g40-70-g50-70?category=BIOS%2FUEFI is the latest bios for this computer, which is a slightly higher versionthan what you have. but at least this latest versions's changelog doesn't discuss anything related. there's no changelog for
[15:53] <tomreyn> earlier versions, though.
[15:53] <tomreyn> 9ACN32WW is the latest, 9ACN30WW is yours
[15:54] <xatrix> tomreyn: ok. i'll update it. but where did you find a bios version in my logs ?
[15:55] <tomreyn> [    0.000000] kernel: DMI: LENOVO 20351/Lancer 5A2, BIOS 9ACN30WW 01/27/2015
[15:57] <xatrix> ok, i'll update
[16:16] <Telanor> hello, I'm using a ubuntu liveusb and the screen res is super low.  I have an nvidia card.  Is there a way to update the drivers for a liveusb?
[16:21] <strive> Telanor: Can't you just go into display settings and adjust it there?
[16:21] <Telanor> There are no options in the dropdown
[16:24] <jhutchins> Telanor: You could build your own live image that included the drivers.
[16:24] <jhutchins> !live
[16:24] <jhutchins> Hrmph.
[16:25] <Telanor> That sounds useful, how would I do that?
[16:26] <tomreyn> jhutchins: i think current live / installer images do include nvidia drivers
[16:26] <Telanor> maybe mine's too old, I'm using ubuntu 18
[16:27] <tomreyn> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS iso's probably don't
[16:27] <tomreyn> i think nvidia drivers were added since around 20.04 LTS
[16:28] <Telanor> Maybe I can try that then, hopefully it fits on my USB, I tried kubuntu earlier and it was too big for my 4gb usb
[16:29] <Telanor> There's no way to increase the resolution a bit without drivers?
[16:29] <Telanor> looks like its 640x480 right now
[16:30] <jhutchins> Telanor: You're probably running on the fall-back VESA drivers, and that's as high as they go.
[16:31] <Telanor> (y)
[16:31] <Telanor> Im actually just trying to get into the network settings but the screen res is so low the window goes off screen and I can't hit the apply button...
[16:32] <ogra> all iso include the nvidia drivers of their time ... 18.04 might be a bt old for your card
[16:32] <ogra> *bit
[16:32] <ogra> try a newer iso ... i.e. 22.04
[16:34] <tomreyn> the 22.04 LTS desktop ISO is 3.6G
[16:34] <tomreyn> so this should work with your $G stick
[16:34] <tomreyn> * 4G
[16:38] <alkisg> Telanor: hold down Alt, then mouse-click at the inside of a window and move it around
[16:40] <Telanor> It doesn't seem to be doing anything
[16:41] <Telanor> oooh, it worked with the windows key!
[16:41] <Telanor> finally I can hit the save button! :)
[16:42] <Telanor> thank you!
[18:01] <alkisg> Hmm, maybe gnome or wayland are different, the good old xorg way was with alt
[18:32] <EagleOwl> I'm getting "AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'". The notice is right: The folder/file is absent. Is there an obvious reason for that? Ubuntu in VMware on Windows, all current.
[18:34] <EagleOwl> Maybe that belongs in #httpd?
[18:34] <murmel> no you are in the right channel, we just need more info
[18:36] <EagleOwl> Glad to provide it.
[18:39] <MockingMoniker> How do I install from a certain repo when it's installed? It has packages that would be newer than the ones that come with Ubuntu. I'm installing Kodi. When I do apt install kodi*, it downloads from kinetic/universe and not from team--xbmc/ppa.
[18:39] <EagleOwl> Well, I take it back. "/usr/bin/apache2" exists at 750kb+
[18:40] <murmel> MockingMoniker: there are different ways. you can pin those packages higher than the ubuntu packages, or just use -t <distro> <packages>
[18:41] <MockingMoniker> like apt -t team-xbmc/ppa install kodi*?
[18:41] <murmel> MockingMoniker: like apt install -t kinetic kodi*
[18:41] <MockingMoniker> Oh.
[18:42] <MockingMoniker> This is a custom repo for Kodi, it's not a distro.
[18:42] <murmel> yes
[18:44] <MockingMoniker> So... then I don't understand what I'm doing.
[18:44] <MockingMoniker> Because I'm thinking specifying the distro would have no affect.
[18:44] <MockingMoniker> It's just the same distro.
[18:45] <murmel> MockingMoniker: can you please paste your apt policy
[18:45] <murmel> !paste
[18:45] <MockingMoniker> k, one moment.
[18:47] <MockingMoniker> https://dpaste.com/4K4DJR4V6
[18:47] <ForeverNoob[m]> Hi, I'm trying to get Alacritty working on a Ubuntu Server 22.04 running inside KVM/Qemu. It's GPU accelerated and requires mesa and other stuff. What packages should I install in order to get try and get it working?
[18:47] <murmel> MockingMoniker: oh, you didn't even install the ppa?
[18:48] <MockingMoniker> There's a reference to it.
[18:48] <MockingMoniker> In /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-ubuntu-ppa-kinetic.list: deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/ kinetic main
[18:49] <murmel> MockingMoniker: ahh, apt update, apt upgrade should do it
[18:50] <MockingMoniker> murmel: I did that, did nothing.
[18:50] <MockingMoniker> Maybe the repo is just empty?
[18:50] <murmel> ForeverNoob[m]: afaik it shoud work when you install it
[18:50] <murmel> MockingMoniker: it's not, what does apt policy kodi say?
[18:50] <murmel> at least the site says there is a package https://launchpad.net/~team-xbmc/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=kinetic
[18:51] <MockingMoniker> murmel: https://dpaste.com/FCNVHRNW3
[18:51] <murmel> MockingMoniker: but for some reason your apt policy doesn't show that you have the repo "enabled"
[18:53] <MockingMoniker> Yeah... did I do something wrong?
[18:53] <MockingMoniker> I'm using Ubuntu Server, does that change anything?
[18:53] <murmel> MockingMoniker: can you give me the output of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-ubuntu-ppa-kinetic.list  it almost feels like it was commented out see if there is a # in front of the deb http...
[18:53] <murmel> MockingMoniker: it shouldn't
[18:54] <MockingMoniker> deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/ kinetic main <-- the sources line is commented out but this is the first line of the two line file.
[18:54] <murmel> ahh, so remove the #
[18:55] <murmel> apt update after and upgrae
[18:55] <murmel> d+
[18:55] <MockingMoniker> No, it hasn't the #. The sources one does, this onedoesn't.
[18:56] <murmel> ahh, sorry, misunderstood you
[18:56] <murmel> MockingMoniker: can you please paste the whole apt update (with command)
[18:57] <MockingMoniker> https://dpaste.com/HTE7Z8UFT
[18:57] <MockingMoniker> It's right there... is it possible that Ubuntu is using the exact same version as the new repo?
[18:58] <MockingMoniker> I mean, the Ubuntu repo has the same packages as the added repo?
[18:58] <murmel> MockingMoniker: at least looking at the version numbers, it's definitely not the same version
[18:58] <murmel> especially since the epoch version from ubuntu is 2: and from the ppa it's 6: (small difference ;) )
[18:58] <MockingMoniker> Is this a priority issue?
[18:59] <murmel> does apt policy now show you the ppa?
[19:00] <MockingMoniker> No.
[19:00] <murmel> oO
[19:00] <MockingMoniker> https://dpaste.com/BR3JLKAFG
[19:01] <murmel> I am sitting on jammy, and it works perfectly fine :S
[19:03] <murmel> but there is definitely something wrong when apt update shows you the ppa, but later it's not added to the "policy page"
[19:03] <MockingMoniker> Yeah, and this is a fresh install, did it an hour ago.
[19:04] <MockingMoniker> Maybe I should remove it and add it again.
[19:04] <murmel> try it
[19:08] <MockingMoniker> murmel: I did that, same effect.
[19:08] <murmel> MockingMoniker: what did you do to remove and add the ppa. just to make sure nothing went wrong there
[19:11] <MockingMoniker> https://dpaste.com/H8FADV6B8
[19:11] <MockingMoniker> I did some other commands to clean up stuff.
[19:12] <MockingMoniker> Then I did: add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa
[19:12] <MockingMoniker> Is the repo functioning correctly?
[19:13] <murmel> it should, give me a few mins, will try it out myself
[19:22] <MockingMoniker> murmel: any luck?
[19:23] <murmel> installing right now
[19:27] <murmel> MockingMoniker: ahh lol I should have looked at the ppa more closely, there are no packages available for kinetic, the build failed
[19:28] <MockingMoniker> murmel: so it's an empty repo?
[19:28] <murmel> MockingMoniker: on the other hand, why not use the LTS release with that ppa.
[19:28] <MockingMoniker> I just downloaded Ubuntu Server and slapt in on there, I did no work to verify anything.
[19:28] <murmel> yes
[19:29] <MockingMoniker> OK.
[19:29] <MockingMoniker> Should I have used Ubuntu Desktop instead of Server for Kodi?
[19:30] <murmel> MockingMoniker: no, just that Kinetic doesn't have a release by team-kodi for now. and imo just my opinion, why not use a LTS release so you don't have to "constantly" upgrade (as the lts is supported for 5 years)
[19:30] <murmel> but that depends on what you want to do with that server+kodi machine
[19:31] <MockingMoniker> I want to grab the latest Kodi* binaries published by Kodi. The rest of the system isn't important.
[19:31] <MockingMoniker> I didn't want to install a desktop environment, but rather just let Kodi run on its own.
[19:32] <murmel> MockingMoniker: so I would go LTS (22.04) + ppa
[19:33] <MockingMoniker> murmel: is there an easy way to switch or should I download the image all over again and install that way?
[19:34] <murmel> MockingMoniker: as there is no supported way to downgrade and you have no data (i assume) just download the image and reinstall
[19:35] <MockingMoniker> OK. Will do.
[19:36] <MockingMoniker> Will Ubuntu Server 22.04.1 LTS do or I should I get Ubuntu Server 22.10?
[19:37] <murmel> 22.04.1 ;)
[19:37] <murmel> 22.10 is the release you have right now
[19:37] <MockingMoniker> Oh.
[19:37] <MockingMoniker> Silly me.
[19:37] <rob0> LTS means long term support.
[19:37] <MockingMoniker> I see.
[19:38] <MockingMoniker> It was even in my question. I didn't look at the number carefully.
[19:38] <murmel> it happens ;) especially depends on what time it is :3
[19:38] <MockingMoniker> 12:38 PM :/
[20:00] <MockingMoniker> murmel: it's working now. I get candidates from the new PPA.
[20:07] <murmel> MockingMoniker: nice :)
[20:29] <X7> I'm getting worried about the state of debian with how the number of increasing packages that are orphaned (as in no maintainer anymore) and packages can become orphaned at any time. Does ubuntu have this problem also or does it avoid it thanks to canonical backing it?
[20:32] <murmel> X7: wrong channel, it fits better in #ubuntu-discuss
[20:32] <X7> Okay. Thanks.
[21:01] <LordDoskias> hello i'm trying to boot ubuntu live usb on a thinkpad t14 that has secureboot turned on - it doesn't work, if i turn off secur eboot it works
[21:01] <LordDoskias> is this expected?
[21:03] <jhutchins> LordDoskias: The reason secure boot was developed was to keep people from loading Linux on OEM Windows systems.
[21:03] <jhutchins> LordDoskias: You can make it work with Ubuntu these days, but why?
[21:04] <LordDoskias> well i thought ubuntu's shim was signed by mcft's cert which is loaded on the machine
[21:04] <LordDoskias> though i can see ubuntu's boot certificate in the revoke list in the bios
[21:04] <LordDoskias> :D
[21:30] <tripp4h> hi! i tried installing boot-repair ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ) but it cannot be found from the repository!
[21:33] <tripp4h> i don't remember did i say it, but i cannot transfer (large) files to the samsung a22 phone in windows either, so it's not a mtp-bug! i wonder what's with that
[21:35] <oerheks> bootrepair for what ubuntu version?
[21:35] <oerheks> Kinetic is not ready indeed.
[21:35] <oerheks> then your only option is the bootrepair disk, see 1st option
[21:42] <tripp4h> oerheks: 22.10
[21:42] <tripp4h> i don't need boot-repair now, but if i need it in future it would be handy to have it installed
[21:42] <oerheks> = Kinetic
[21:43] <tripp4h> i wonder does it add itself to grub
[22:30] <ForeverNoob[m]> Hi, in 22.04 I'm having a bit of an issue with locales. Seemingly everything looks fine: https://0x0.st/o6JN.txt - And I even did `dpkg-reconfigure locales` but a lot of stuff is complaining about locales and I'm not sure why.
[22:34] <murmel> ForeverNoob[m]: and what kind of issues do you have? I mean the link doesn't give any info on that
[22:35] <ForeverNoob[m]> @murmel: Various things, for example `perl: warning: Setting locale failed.` and rofi: `Rofi-WARNING **: ...: Failed to set locale.`
[22:35] <ForeverNoob[m]> Some stuff not starting up when they should (i3bar etc.)
[22:36] <leftyfb> ForeverNoob[m]: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/failed-to-set-locale-defaulting-to-c-warning-message-on-centoslinux/
[22:54] <jhutchins> ForeverNoob[m]: Hate to suggest a Stupid Windows Trick, but have you rebooted?
[22:57] <ForeverNoob[m]> I think it might be the packages that I've installed using the Nix package manager. I uninstalled rofi and installed it via apt, and now it doesn't complain anymore. So I'm going to figure out how to smooth out the locale situation with nixpkgs.