| BlueSmoke | Hi I made a backup of my home folder of ubuntu 20.04 with rsync of a differnt drive than the live one, Im using now if there a way to mount it so I can open the web browser from that backup as I want to accsess some shortcuts I made there | 00:24 |
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| BlueSmoke | is* | 00:24 |
| Bit | I've been having an issue with sudo apt update in a WSL2 Jammy install and I cannot find any answers that help. Whenever I run the command, it takes a while to output anything (kinda like it's timing out), and when it does have something, it's "Ign:1 http:archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease". If I let it go long enough it says it has a "Temorary failure resolving '*url*'. I've tried uninstalling the WSL app, updating WSL, doing whatever I could find on | 00:38 |
| Bit | StackExchanges, but nothing has helped. I can ping Google, so network isn't the issue. This started after I tried to add the deadsnake ppa, but I don't know what that would've done to screw it up like this. | 00:38 |
| Bit | I should specify, it's not specifically archive, it's all of the urls apt update tries to call | 00:39 |
| ravage | Bit: you have to fix your WSL2 DNS resolving then | 00:40 |
| Bit | ravage: Thank you! It's connected to them now. Follow up question: Is there a way to add a secondary DNS to the /etc/resolv.conf file? Is it just adding a comma after the first DNS address? | 00:44 |
| ravage | one namserver per line | 00:45 |
| ravage | nameserver 8.8.8.8 | 00:45 |
| ravage | nameserver 8.8.4.4 | 00:45 |
| ravage | also check if "generateResolvConf = false" you have in your wsl.conf: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/5068#issuecomment-1268171185 | 00:46 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 5068 in microsoft/WSL "WSL2 , problem with network connection when VPN used (PulseSecure)" [Open] | 00:46 | |
| ravage | or it may be overwritten on the next reboot | 00:46 |
| Bit | I set that in my wsl.conf file, and restarted. My resolv.conf file got overwritten again. When looking up how to change the WSL DNS, someone mentioned that wsl.conf might have a symlink. I did ls -l and there was an entry of '-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30 (today's date and time) wsl.conf'. Is that the symlink, and how to I remove it? | 00:56 |
| murmel | it's not a symlink | 00:57 |
| murmel | symlinks have somethink like wsl.conf -> /etc/path/to/real/file | 00:58 |
| ravage | Bit: i dont use WSL but maybe this is helpful https://gist.github.com/coltenkrauter/608cfe02319ce60facd76373249b8ca6 | 01:01 |
| ravage | i think the "chattr +i resolv.conf" may be the real fix here | 01:02 |
| ravage | so edit the resolv.conf then to the chattr and see if it survives the reboot | 01:03 |
| iconoclasthero | how do I change the scaling of wallpaper in 22.10? | 01:07 |
| ravage | iconoclasthero: install gnome-tweaks | 01:09 |
| iconoclasthero | that isn't just in settings > appearance? | 01:10 |
| iconoclasthero | or, i guess, "didn't that used to be in settings > appearance"? | 01:12 |
| iconoclasthero | anyway, yes, i had gnome-tweaks i just ... well see the question above for what I expected. | 01:13 |
| Bit | ravage: chattr +i resolv.conf did it. Thanks again for your help | 01:13 |
| xxy | my pc can't translate file by bluetooth, when bluetooth is opened and connected , i noticed microphone icon appear at the same time, | 02:07 |
| xxy | i can't find reasons why the bluetooth reject send file | 02:08 |
| chilled-entity62 | I'm running Ubuntu's WSL 2, and the boot directory has a subdirectory called 'androidboot,' is this presumably related to WSL? | 02:13 |
| chilled-entity62 | I don't recall Ubuntu having that directory normally (the androidboot part) but it's been a while. | 02:14 |
| murmel | chilled-entity62: normal ubuntu definitely doesn't have it, can't verify if it does exist on wsl | 02:15 |
| rob0 | my WSL has nothing in /boot | 02:15 |
| rob0 | must be something you installed | 02:16 |
| chilled-entity62 | murmel I too previously had an empty boot directory. I did specify systemd boot in the wsl.conf but I don't recall systemd requiring that directory either | 02:16 |
| chilled-entity62 | now it has what appears to be a standard boot directory except for the android part | 02:17 |
| chilled-entity62 | if I try to look at it, the system adamantly claims that it doesn't exist | 02:19 |
| cnnx | is there any senior managers who look for new hires? i responded to one of your applications | 02:30 |
| cnnx | at canonical | 02:30 |
| murmel | chilled-entity62: you probably mean systemd not systemd boot or? | 02:31 |
| murmel | cnnx: you would need to contact canonical directly, we are here a community helping out people | 02:32 |
| murmel | sometimes people from canonical show up, but rarely | 02:32 |
| cnnx | ok I sent them my resume | 02:32 |
| grolongo | anybody doesn't see their network drives in the Ubuntu dock? I can mount and browse them without problem but they just don't show up in the left dock | 02:33 |
| cnnx | murmel thank you | 02:33 |
| cnnx | did you mount them with the cli? mount /dev/sdx /mnt/custom | 02:33 |
| murmel | grolongo: on wich release are you on? | 02:34 |
| grolongo | cnnx: I did it from CLI and from Nautilus file manager too. I'm on Ubuntu 22.10 | 02:34 |
| cnnx | if you right click on the nework driev can you set it as desktop preference | 02:34 |
| grolongo | I'll try that | 02:35 |
| cnnx | ok | 02:35 |
| murmel | also make sure that it's enabled to even show up in the dock (in gnome settings -> appearance -> at the bottom you can configre the dock) | 02:35 |
| grolongo | murmel: did that too, but the default is to show them and I didn't change anything | 02:36 |
| murmel | k | 02:36 |
| grolongo | when I plug an usb it appears as expected, just not network drives | 02:36 |
| chilled-entity62 | murmel yeah I just meant running systemd, just confused myself because the recommended change to the wsl.conf is [boot] systemd=true | 02:37 |
| chilled-entity62 | I mean it apparently installed grub at some point so I don't think it's booting with systemd | 02:38 |
| murmel | yeah, with that you only switched the init system, but not the boot part ;) | 02:39 |
| chilled-entity62 | yeah I don't know why they have you write it that way in the conf. To be fair I enabled it without much investigation (I'm not sure why it installed grub for example) | 02:41 |
| murmel | chilled-entity62: by default wsl doesn't use systemd as the init system, as it's not really needed. but people were complaining (and it gets closer to normal ubuntu) | 02:43 |
| murmel | grub no idea, as I can't remember what I saw last time I looked at wsl | 02:43 |
| chilled-entity62 | I think it's still using WSL init, but I can use systemctl. I might just reinstall it without systemd. | 02:47 |
| chilled-entity62 | The weird immutable boot directory is too unnerving. | 02:48 |
| murmel | chilled-entity62: oh, how did you install wsl? | 02:48 |
| murmel | the store version is newer than when you do wsl --install | 02:49 |
| chilled-entity62 | I installed wsl 2, its just nice to have a real terminal when I'm in windows. | 02:50 |
| murmel | well I hope wsl2 as wsl1 is quite old and on life support ;) | 02:50 |
| murmel | but I am actually talking about wsl2 through store or cli | 02:51 |
| chilled-entity62 | yeah I installed it from the windows store the Ubuntu LTS version. | 02:52 |
| murmel | kk :) | 02:52 |
| grolongo | murmel: do your network drives shows up in the dock? (if you have any) | 02:57 |
| murmel | i dont have network drives and i dont use the dock :) | 02:58 |
| grolongo | mm | 03:10 |
| === root is now known as Guest4620 | ||
| Guest4620 | su | 04:26 |
| Guest4620 | apt update | 04:26 |
| evils[m] | so, i haven't found a solution to the 22.04 stuck on 5.4 yet, any suggestions on where to ask next? | 08:12 |
| === gschanuel0 is now known as gschanuel | ||
| tomreyn | evils[m]: you could sum up the issue so someone else could give it a go (if this was previously discussed here) | 08:16 |
| evils[m] | automatic update from 20.04 ended up with 22.04 being stuck on linux 5.4, 5.15 is installed, but not set up to be used... | 08:17 |
| tomreyn | do you mean a release upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04? | 08:18 |
| evils[m] | yes | 08:18 |
| tomreyn | can you show sudo apt update && apt policy && apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:19 |
| tomreyn | actually all of those need to go to a pastebin | 08:19 |
| tomreyn | can you show sudo apt update && apt policy && apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | 08:19 |
| evils[m] | got a recommended pastebin? | 08:21 |
| tomreyn | !paste | evils[m] | 08:21 |
| ubottu | evils[m]: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:21 |
| evils[m] | https://dpaste.com/EY34PAKBF | 08:22 |
| tomreyn | evils[m]: okay, this looks good so far, let's see about installed packages and pending upgrades: apt list --installed linux* && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt -sy full-upgrade | 08:25 |
| evils[m] | https://dpaste.com/9HJ2VE44J | 08:26 |
| alkisg | evils: cat /proc/cmdline /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:27 |
| evils[m] | fyi: cat: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied | 08:28 |
| tomreyn | evils[m]: you're missing linux-generic-hwe-22.04 | 08:28 |
| evils[m] | tomreyn i already tried installing that, that didn't help, removed it again | 08:28 |
| alkisg | evils: sudo cat /proc/cmdline /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:28 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/4we5 | 08:29 |
| evils[m] | i have no idea what i did to get 5.15 into the grub.cfg at some point... | 08:29 |
| alkisg | I think that you have another boot partition somewhere with another version of grub.cfg, but since I'm n00b with zfs I'll stop talking now :) | 08:31 |
| === fling_ is now known as fling | ||
| tomreyn | oh, zfs on /, right | 08:31 |
| tomreyn | i'm a newbie there, too, and share alkisg's assumption | 08:31 |
| tomreyn | what's in /boot though? | 08:31 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/wplw | 08:31 |
| evils[m] | that | 08:31 |
| alkisg | evils: are you sure your boot partition is mounted? sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:32 |
| evils[m] | 5.4.0-21-generic being from the 10th is due to my attempts at getting stuff installed, but it seems like the kernels haven't been touched since march 2020 | 08:32 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/2rjhj | 08:33 |
| alkisg | Your `update-grub` is either updating zfs while your boot is ext, or it's updating a different zfs snapshot than the one you're using | 08:33 |
| alkisg | Shouldn't bpool be mounted on /boot? No idea about zfs though | 08:33 |
| alkisg | Also, you mounted the efi partition on /boot/grub? Eww | 08:34 |
| evils[m] | zfs list, https://termbin.com/klxi | 08:34 |
| alkisg | Try this: umount /boot/grub | 08:34 |
| evils[m] | i didn't mount anything, all i did was `zfs import /dev/nvmen1p3` | 08:34 |
| alkisg | Then: sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:35 |
| alkisg | *sudo for the umount above | 08:35 |
| evils[m] | euhm, umount isn't going to affect /boot/grub/grub.cfg, right? | 08:35 |
| evils[m] | not without a update-grub? | 08:35 |
| alkisg | The efi partition should be mounted in /boot/efi | 08:36 |
| alkisg | You have it mounted two times, in /boot/efi and in /boot/grub | 08:36 |
| alkisg | That's certainly causing problems; not sure if it's the problem you're seeing | 08:36 |
| alkisg | So unmounting it will allow us to see what's below, in your bpool pool | 08:36 |
| evils[m] | cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg fails with no such file or directory | 08:36 |
| alkisg | cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:37 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/v01u0 | 08:37 |
| alkisg | Oh. Hm. Is that a bind mount there? | 08:38 |
| alkisg | So you're reusing the efi partition as a ...grub directory | 08:38 |
| alkisg | ...I don't get the logic for that | 08:39 |
| evils[m] | oh, perhaps relevant, this was 20.04, but installed a few days before the release due to time constraints | 08:39 |
| alkisg | The /boot directory is supposed to hold vmlinuz, initrd and grub.cfg | 08:39 |
| alkisg | Now you put your grub.cfg in a subdiretory of a different partition; I've no idea why | 08:39 |
| alkisg | While the efi partition is only supposed to hold shim and grub.efi, not the real grub.cfg | 08:40 |
| tomreyn | also, those are usually different file systems | 08:40 |
| tomreyn | file system types, i should say | 08:40 |
| tomreyn | evils[m]: so, why this setup? | 08:41 |
| evils[m] | ¯_(ツ)_/¯ the ubuntu installer did this | 08:41 |
| tomreyn | really? i'm surprised it would do it like that. | 08:42 |
| tomreyn | fortunately zfs on root is marked as experimental | 08:42 |
| alkisg | evils: `sudo mount /boot/grub` to remount it, then `sudo ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999`. | 08:43 |
| evils[m] | to be fair, without the zsys stuff i'd have to have taken a train to this computer to boot it again | 08:43 |
| alkisg | Let's see what else you have in boot and efi... | 08:43 |
| alkisg | ...and grub subdir... | 08:43 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/ezst | 08:44 |
| evils[m] | happy scrolling... | 08:44 |
| alkisg | Erm, your 5.15 kernel doesn't exist in /boot | 08:44 |
| alkisg | sudo dpkg -S /boot | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:46 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/frx1 | 08:47 |
| alkisg | sudo apt install --reinstall linux-modules-5.15.0-52-generic linux-image-5.15.0-52-generic | 08:48 |
| evils[m] | been there, done that, doing again | 08:48 |
| alkisg | Well your /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-52-generic is missing, so if you did that previously, something is deleting it behind your back | 08:49 |
| evils[m] | done | 08:50 |
| alkisg | And is it there now? | 08:50 |
| evils[m] | jup... | 08:50 |
| evils[m] | initrd.img and vmlinuz don't point to it though | 08:50 |
| alkisg | No matter, you're also mising the -hwe package but these are details for now, | 08:50 |
| alkisg | try: sudo update-grub | 08:50 |
| alkisg | Then: sudo umount /boot/grub; sudo update-grub | 08:51 |
| alkisg | So that it goes in both file systems | 08:51 |
| alkisg | Then cross fingers, reboot and let's see the results... | 08:51 |
| evils[m] | hwe is only for getting performant use of the hardware, right? | 08:51 |
| evils[m] | no remounting /boot/grub before rebooting? | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | !hwe | 08:52 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 08:52 |
| alkisg | No need it will be remounted on reboot | 08:52 |
| alkisg | You have that bind-mount declared in your /etc/fstab | 08:52 |
| evils[m] | ok, /boot/initrd.img and vmlinuz still point to 5.4 | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | you'll also want to to remove the outdated openssl library, and possibly other packages listed on the bottom of https://dpaste.com/EY34PAKBF.txt | 08:53 |
| tomreyn | but do that after reboot | 08:53 |
| alkisg | That's not a problem, it's taken care of kernel hooks, but grub ignores that | 08:53 |
| alkisg | *postinst hooks | 08:53 |
| evils[m] | tomreyn yea, tossing those locally installed things once i can remove 5.4 xD | 08:54 |
| evils[m] | ok, any other suggestions, or do i reboot? | 08:54 |
| alkisg | ..have a live usb nearby? :D | 08:54 |
| evils[m] | this PC is in a few towns over and my dad's asleep, i'm in via ssh | 08:54 |
| evils[m] | and he does not have an USB stick | 08:54 |
| tomreyn | wait till dad's awake | 08:54 |
| evils[m] | it's been a fun couple of days :) | 08:54 |
| alkisg | That's certainly not a good combination to be plain with experimental features :D | 08:54 |
| evils[m] | then i'll be asleep | 08:54 |
| alkisg | *playing | 08:55 |
| tomreyn | ...and has a prepared usb stick | 08:55 |
| evils[m] | again, without zsys i'd not have gotten this far in debugging it :) | 08:55 |
| alkisg | Or it wouldn't need debugging... | 08:55 |
| evils[m] | well, i assumed ubuntu wouldn't shoot itself in the foot | 08:56 |
| evils[m] | anyway, i take this to be a no on further suggestions before rebooting? | 08:56 |
| alkisg | Let's see your generated grub.cfg | 08:57 |
| evils[m] | wanted to check teh grub.cfg, but that was in /boot/grub which i unmounted, mount and cat? | 08:57 |
| alkisg | No, wait, | 08:57 |
| alkisg | (sudo ls -lR /boot/grub; sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:57 |
| alkisg | (sudo umount /boot/grub; sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 08:58 |
| alkisg | This will show us both of them | 08:58 |
| alkisg | Replace umount with mount | 08:58 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/3js6 | 08:59 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/4w21 | 08:59 |
| alkisg | The first part is missing | 09:00 |
| alkisg | (sud umount /boot/grub; sudo ls -lR /boot/grub) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 09:01 |
| alkisg | To see what's underneath the mount | 09:01 |
| alkisg | s/sud/sudo/ | 09:01 |
| alkisg | Oh sorry my bad | 09:01 |
| alkisg | It was just grub.cfg there | 09:01 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/cgjx | 09:01 |
| alkisg | I'd go ahead and reboot now | 09:01 |
| * evils[m] makes the sign of the lambda and orders a reboot | 09:03 | |
| evils[m] | `Linux jean-itx 5.15.0-52-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 13 08:03:55 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux` | 09:04 |
| alkisg | systemctl status | 09:04 |
| alkisg | Running or degraded? | 09:04 |
| evils[m] | 7 queued, 0 failed | 09:04 |
| alkisg | Not bad so far | 09:05 |
| * alkisg wonders if that was a small λ or capital Λ and what did it mean... :D | 09:05 | |
| * evils[m] uploaded an image: (18KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/nixos.dev/yRCFigDAPOJEEZywAEWEmPcO/image.png > | 09:07 | |
| evils[m] | > * <@alkis:matrix.org> wonders if that was a small λ or capital Λ and what did it mean... :D | 09:09 |
| evils[m] | seemed like an appropriate time for the sign of the cross | 09:09 |
| evils[m] | but i'm a nixer... | 09:09 |
| alkisg | And you have λ instead of + ?! | 09:10 |
| alkisg | What happens if you run: systemctl status plymouth-quit-wait | 09:10 |
| alkisg | And: sudo systemctl status plymouth-quit-wait | 09:10 |
| alkisg | Sorry, replace the last one with: | 09:10 |
| alkisg | sudo systemctl stop plymouth-quit-wait | 09:10 |
| evils[m] | Starting Hold until boot process finishes up... | 09:10 |
| alkisg | And stopping it made the rest leave the waiting state? | 09:11 |
| evils[m] | ok, stopping left just zsys-commit.service in running | 09:11 |
| evils[m] | nope, that's no longer queued | 09:11 |
| evils[m] | 0 queued, 0 failed | 09:12 |
| alkisg | So no queued tasks now? | 09:12 |
| alkisg | OK, that's probably unrelated to the kernel update | 09:12 |
| alkisg | And needs to be troubleshooted separately | 09:12 |
| evils[m] | good time to clean up those locally installed packages? | 09:12 |
| alkisg | What's the output of: sudo dpkg -l | grep linux | nc termbin.com 9999 | 09:13 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/4edf | 09:14 |
| alkisg | Start with ` sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/ { print $2 }') `, and put the prompt to pastebin before you press yes | 09:14 |
| alkisg | To purge all these removed old packges | 09:15 |
| evils[m] | E: Removing essential system-critical packages is not permitted. This might break the system. | 09:15 |
| alkisg | Ctrl+C then | 09:17 |
| evils[m] | ah, shim-signed | 09:17 |
| alkisg | It means you have removed something that you shouldn't have | 09:17 |
| alkisg | E.g. a metapackage, so now all dependencies are left in orphan state | 09:17 |
| evils[m] | it canceled itself | 09:17 |
| evils[m] | wasn't removed, and it's the shim-signed "essential package" | 09:17 |
| alkisg | What's the output of this? Again press no: sudo apt purge --auto-remove | 09:18 |
| evils[m] | alkisg: 0 on everything | 09:18 |
| alkisg | For example, if you removed an ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-minimal or something metapackage, then all its dependencies are now orphan | 09:18 |
| evils[m] | yes, i saw that episode of ltt xD | 09:18 |
| evils[m] | so, filter shim-signed from the dpkg -l? | 09:20 |
| alkisg | Start with this one: https://termbin.com/taro | 09:20 |
| evils[m] | a few of these, but succeeded | 09:22 |
| evils[m] | `dpkg: warning: while removing linux-modules-5.4.0-74-generic, directory '/lib/modules/5.4.0-74-generic' not empty so not removed` | 09:22 |
| alkisg | That's OK, either dkms modules or it gets removed a bit after | 09:22 |
| alkisg | So now what does `dpkg -l | grep linux` look like? | 09:22 |
| alkisg | dpkg -l | grep linux | nc termbin.com 9999 | 09:23 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/olgj | 09:23 |
| alkisg | sudo apt purge linux-5.4-headers-5.4.0-14 linux-headers-5.4.0-14-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-21 linux-headers-5.4.0-21-generic linux-image-5.4.0-21-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-21-generic | 09:24 |
| alkisg | When it's finished, upload this: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | nc termbin.com 9999 | 09:25 |
| evils[m] | alkisg: that did an update-initramfs and grub config regeneration | 09:25 |
| alkisg | It's ok, now your grub.cfg won't have 5.4 in it | 09:26 |
| evils[m] | https://termbin.com/g7ud | 09:26 |
| alkisg | Hrm, so you can remove shim-signed but not purge it?! I don't get where the prompt comes from | 09:27 |
| alkisg | (although, why remove it?) | 09:27 |
| evils[m] | just speculating, but i was assuming it's an old one | 09:27 |
| alkisg | Normally I'd reinstall it, but I'm afraid to advice touching your boot process any more, as it's very volatile :) | 09:28 |
| alkisg | So let's leave it as it is now | 09:28 |
| evils[m] | so this now? `sudo apt purge --autoremove $(dpkg -l | grep -v "shim-signed" | grep ^rc)` | 09:30 |
| evils[m] | * so this now? `sudo apt purge --autoremove $(dpkg -l | grep -v "shim-signed" | awk '/^rc/ { print $2 }' )` | 09:31 |
| alkisg | Leave out mysql-common too for now, in some weird cases I saw it purging databases before users migrated to newer versions or maria-db | 09:32 |
| evils[m] | done | 09:33 |
| alkisg | 👍️ | 09:33 |
| alkisg | When you're close to dad, reinstall shim-signed | 09:34 |
| evils[m] | will do | 09:34 |
| evils[m] | i guess that leaves the plymouth issue? | 09:34 |
| alkisg | Yup. It's probably unrelated to the kernel upgrade though | 09:35 |
| evils[m] | ah and i should probably install some -hwe package now | 09:35 |
| alkisg | Not necessarily | 09:37 |
| alkisg | The linux-generic users stay in the same kernel | 09:37 |
| alkisg | The linux-generic-hwe ones upgrade to newer kernels every 6 months | 09:37 |
| alkisg | Not everyone wants that as it's causing instabilities | 09:37 |
| alkisg | While it's good for new installations on new hardware | 09:37 |
| alkisg | Hence 22.04.1 has linux-generic, while 22.04.2+ get linux-generic-hwe | 09:38 |
| alkisg | Read the link that tomreyn had posted | 09:38 |
| evils[m] | k | 09:40 |
| evils[m] | anything else to be done with the boot or kernel setup? | 09:40 |
| grolongo | does someone has his network drives showing in the dock? | 09:41 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure thats working grolongo | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe other docks like plank, not sure | 09:42 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: you could dig into dconf-editor or search gnome extensions perhaps | 09:43 |
| evils[m] | alkisg: could the plymouth thing not finishing and holding up multi-user.target be the login screen not being logged in to? | 09:43 |
| grolongo | lotuspsychje: it's supposed to be enabled by default on stock Ubuntu, but it doesn't show anything in the dock | 09:48 |
| alkisg | evils: no | 09:48 |
| alkisg | evils: It's waiting for something, you could check the plymouth logs for what it is, or you could just quickly systemctl mask the unit and call it a day :D | 09:48 |
| grolongo | lotuspsychje: I'm guessing that's a bug since I didn't tweak anything myself, only mounted a network drive. but I don't know if others can repoduce it | 09:49 |
| evils[m] | alkisg: nothing in the logs, guess i'll mask it | 09:51 |
| evils[m] | alkisg: thanks so much for your help, was stuck on this since the 9th... | 09:51 |
| alkisg | Cheers! :) | 09:51 |
| evils[m] | do you have a clear idea of what resolved it? | 09:51 |
| evils[m] | to me it kinda seems like ordering a reinstall of the 5.15 packages did it | 09:52 |
| evils[m] | that and mounting/unmounting /boot/grub to distribute the config | 09:52 |
| alkisg | Yes, but I don't have a clear idea of why the files weren't there | 09:52 |
| alkisg | Something was deleting them, but I've no idea what | 09:52 |
| alkisg | ...as it was before the troublehooting started | 09:52 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: mounted devices should show on the dock indeed, but didnt test network mounts yet myself | 09:53 |
| alkisg | evils: but they were there when `update-grub` was called, as the generated grub.cfg did have them | 09:53 |
| grolongo | lotuspsychje: yep, pluging an USB key for eg shows it correctly | 09:54 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: in dconf-editor i see the value; show-mounts-network | 09:56 |
| evils[m] | ok, masked plymouth-quit-wait, boots completely now | 09:57 |
| lotuspsychje | (on dash-to-dock) | 09:57 |
| evils[m] | i don't suppose anyone knows if there's a correct way of cleaning up older zfs snapshots from zsys, besides just ordering zfs to delete them? | 09:57 |
| grolongo | lotuspsychje: it should be "true" by default right? | 09:57 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: its enabled at my side, so i assume yes | 09:57 |
| grolongo | same, you can also find it in Settings > Ubuntu Desktop > Configure dock behavior > Include Network Volumes | 09:59 |
| grolongo | but doesnt seem to work, at least on 22.10 | 09:59 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: just tested on a local ftp here, doesnt show on dock indeed | 10:00 |
| lotuspsychje | only in nautilus left pane | 10:01 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: weird, as its known here; https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/1338 | 10:02 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1338 in micheleg/dash-to-dock "dash-to-dock is not showing mounted network volumes and devices" [Closed] | 10:02 | |
| grolongo | lotuspsychje: exactly this. I might reopen an issue to see whats going on | 10:04 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah, file it against ubuntu-bug gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock please grolongo | 10:05 |
| lotuspsychje | you might also discuss it at #ubuntu-next grolongo | 10:06 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe others can try to reproduce it | 10:07 |
| BlueSmoke | if I did a rsync backup of my home folder on 20.04 can I mount that backup and run the version on the brouser in that backup I want to get to some bookmaks I had in there | 10:10 |
| BlueSmoke | of* | 10:11 |
| BlueSmoke | oh if the browser stuff and bookmarks outside of the home folder ? | 10:12 |
| BlueSmoke | or is* | 10:12 |
| evils[m] | at least for firefox, bookmarks are in .mozilla/firefox/*/bookmarkbackups | 10:22 |
| Intelo | $ sudo swapon /swapfile -> swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Invalid argument | 10:23 |
| Intelo | any help on that? | 10:23 |
| Intelo | $ sudo swapon /swapfile -> swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Invalid argument | 10:23 |
| Intelo | BlueSmoke what in the world are you typing | 10:24 |
| BlueSmoke | thanks I'm using brave! had to recover the other day and made a backup | 10:25 |
| BlueSmoke | wanted to mount different backups and run the browser to loof for some bookmarks I made but not sure how to I'm looking arounfd on google too | 10:29 |
| opa7331 | I run 22.04 and would like to turn of the "dancing icons" feature in the ubuntu dock. Here it is explained better https://askubuntu.com/questions/1425787/how-to-stop-dock-icons-from-shaking-when-receiving-a-notification | 12:01 |
| cacodemon | Hi guys, why is there no WSL release for 22.04 LTS in https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/22.04/release/ like there is for 21.04 (https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/hirsute/release/ubuntu-21.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-wsl.rootfs.tar.gz) ? | 12:13 |
| cacodemon | nvm, just found it. it moved to https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/jammy/current/ | 12:14 |
| murmel | cacodemon: may I ask you how you can import those? | 12:16 |
| tarel2 | arm-none-eabi-gcc does Ubuntu have that? | 12:33 |
| oerheks | cacodemon the location has changed to https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/ | 12:34 |
| oerheks | oh, gone | 12:34 |
| FNAShinobi | is it possible to have a specific application use a different default gateway than the rest of my system? | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 14:06 |
| rob0 | FNAShinobi: "policy routing" is the feature, but doing it by application might be tricky. It generally would work by user and/or protocol[/port]. | 14:09 |
| rob0 | Maybe a network namespace, idk? | 14:10 |
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| Intelo | There are apps that open multiple terminals and you enter command once but it gets entered in all the terminals. Can anyone recommend that app? | 15:00 |
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| oerheks | Intelo, and what is the name of such weird app? | 15:21 |
| Dreamer409 | tmux might do that | 15:29 |
| Dreamer409 | eh, oh well :P | 15:30 |
| rbancroft | anyone know how to disable swap file creation in the autoinstall? I see the option in the curtain documentation but I don't know how to pass it via autoinstall | 15:46 |
| rbancroft | *curtin | 15:48 |
| oerheks | https://curtin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/config.html#swap | 15:48 |
| oerheks | from https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-reference | 15:49 |
| Randolf | My OBS snap installation suddenly stopped working -- it was fine last week. I also can't update with apt. | 15:51 |
| Randolf | I'm getting errors about keys. | 15:51 |
| rbancroft | hmm,I followed the instructions there, and it doesn't create a swap partition, but it still creates a swap.img file | 15:52 |
| oerheks | what if you delete the whole 'swap: .. ' | 15:53 |
| oerheks | would that skip swap.img of 0mb | 15:53 |
| rbancroft | ok, I will try... I'll need to specify my other partitions though. right now I'm just using an automatic partition layout | 15:56 |
| rbancroft | I missed this part, oops: If the “layout” feature is used to configure the disks, the “config” section will not be used. | 15:59 |
| oerheks | sounds logical | 16:01 |
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| rbancroft | thanks oerheks, gotta step away for a bit but this helps | 16:35 |
| Intelo | Linux, I believe and guess, isn't that stable as freebsd is. Or is it just ubuntu and I should try another distro? anyway, with specially UI, it bloats under heavy load. Now the problem is that Linux has a lot of utilities that I am used to an need. Some configs, shortcuts etc. Until I find a way, how can I run both linux and freebsd at the same | 17:00 |
| Intelo | time? I thought of installing freebsd as guess and linux as host in virtualbox. Or vice versa is better? Or any other option? I think virtualbox based virtualization will be a bottleneck somewhere? Do I have other options? I need to run both at the same time in the start so that I can use in linux what freebsd does not have (or I do not yet get an | 17:00 |
| Intelo | alternative/solution)? Any thoughts? | 17:00 |
| ravage | Intelo: please use #ubuntu-discuss . This is the ubuntu support channel | 17:01 |
| ravage | or if you want to discuss freebsd: #ubuntu-offtopic | 17:02 |
| Intelo | OK sir | 17:02 |
| Intelo | ravage thank you sir | 17:02 |
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| Guest403 | #ubnutu | 17:24 |
| Guest403 | bonjour | 17:24 |
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| rbancroft | oerheks: yay ok. disabling the swap file works as long as you specify the storage config. thanks! | 17:45 |
| Intelo | $ xterm Maximum number of clients reachedxterm: Xt error: Can't open display: :0 | 17:46 |
| Intelo | I have too many terminals open. I can't run anything else now. What to do? | 17:46 |
| jhutchins | Kill some terminals. | 17:48 |
| jhutchins | Intelo: You should be able to access the non-graphic terminals, Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. | 17:49 |
| Mylon | Hello! I recently tried installing a driver for a Nvidia Tesla m40 and now my computer won't boot. I guess it's trying to use the m40 as the display device, even though I have been and was using my integrated graphics just fine. How do I fix this? | 17:49 |
| jhutchins | Intelo: You can selectively kill some, or just restart gdm to re-launch the X system. | 17:49 |
| murmel | Mylon: boot with nomodeset and remove driver/fix driver | 17:50 |
| murmel | so hit esc/shift during boot to bring grub menu and then press e on the boot entry to add nomodeset on the linux line | 17:50 |
| Mylon | I tried launching recovery mode and it spit out a bunch of errors but eventually dumped me into a terminal. | 17:50 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: Ok, so you have a terminal. What's your next question? | 17:51 |
| jpmh | I am a little confused about the arp command - it shows what I expect interms of connected devices, or more to the point those that I have connected to, but seems to maintain that memory for a very long time. How lomng is the cache maintained? | 17:52 |
| jhutchins | jpmh: Why does this matter? | 17:52 |
| jpmh | jhutchins: we are considering offereing one more "statistic" for our clients | 17:53 |
| jpmh | jhutchins: and I really just want to understand it -the docs seem to say that the cache time is short - but arp shows them for a long time | 17:54 |
| jhutchins | How long is a piece of string? | 17:54 |
| Mylon | Oh, maybe I don't have a terminal.... I tries "ls" and then a terminal-like window responded like it captured the input instead... | 17:54 |
| Mylon | I'm back to the grub menu. I can edit Ubuntu 22.04 or Advanced options for 22.04 | 17:56 |
| Mylon | I'm not sure where to add "nomodeset". | 17:56 |
| ravage | !kernelparams | Mylon | 17:57 |
| ravage | Hm | 17:57 |
| ravage | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters | 17:58 |
| Mylon | Welp... I tried. | 18:03 |
| Mylon | Gave seome errors, then showed the splash screen for a little while, now it's spamming, "NVIDIA device is invalid" | 18:03 |
| Mylon | "This PCI I/O region assigned to your NVIDIA device is invalid" | 18:04 |
| Mylon | It's a dedicated number crunching card so just want to use the dedicated graphics card. | 18:05 |
| Mylon | *the integrated graphics chip | 18:05 |
| Mylon | This was using the "nomodeset" line added to the grub launcher. | 18:08 |
| A_Dragon | Intelo: This includes this channel. and any other on the network. | 18:09 |
| Mylon | Any other recommendations on how to recover my system? | 18:20 |
| Intelo | A_Dragon make me | 18:21 |
| Intelo | A_Dragon I refuse to leave this channel. You make me leave. | 18:21 |
| Mylon | Woo, drama. | 18:22 |
| Intelo | :) | 18:22 |
| Mylon | 🦙 | 18:22 |
| Mylon | I'm gonna remove the nvidia card and see what happens. | 18:22 |
| Mylon | Woo, sucker is warm and it wasn't even doing anything. | 18:23 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: You might try booting with the kernel parameter systemd.unit=multi-user.target | 18:24 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: nomodeset just cripples the Nvideo subsystem, it still tries to load. | 18:24 |
| Mylon | Okay, it booted fine witih the card removed. | 18:24 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: Well, great, fix it from there. Reverse whatever steps you took to enable nvidia. | 18:25 |
| Mylon | I imagine I will still want the drivers, just not used as a display device. | 18:25 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: Yes, you'll still need some kind of driver. | 18:26 |
| Mylon | I'm in "software & Updates" > "Additional Drivers" which is where I found the nvidia drivers but nothing is listed and the revert button is grayed out. | 18:26 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: Use the console tools, not the GUI. | 18:27 |
| Mylon | I am very inexperienced with the terminal. | 18:27 |
| Mylon | You told me to reverse the steps... Well I instaleld it using the gui. | 18:28 |
| Mylon | I had also downloaded a driver package but when I tried to run it, it suggested I use the gui instead. | 18:28 |
| Mylon | Downloaded from nvidia's website, even. | 18:29 |
| Mylon | Barring any other ideas, I'll just reinstall the card and see what happens. And if that fails I'll try the kernel param above. | 18:30 |
| explodes | I am so upset I can't even /s -- | 18:55 |
| explodes | Why does my computer screen go black after 30 seconds even though the setting is 5 minutes? | 18:55 |
| FNAShinobi | rob0: Thanks! I'll check the policy routing out. By port would work fine. | 18:59 |
| arraybolt3 | explodes: Maybe your monitor has a power saving setting that's doing it, not the OS? | 19:00 |
| explodes | It just started this behavior a couple months ago, idk y | 19:01 |
| Mylon | > Mylon: You might try booting with the kernel parameter systemd.unit=multi-user.target | 19:12 |
| Mylon | I tried this, no luck. Still saying nvidia device is invalid | 19:12 |
| jpmh | if I encrypt my home directorywill this prevent me from being able to use public key protection on ssh - I assume that it will since the .ssh/authorized_keys will not be available. Is this true and is there a way around this | 19:12 |
| opa7331 | I run 22.04 and would like to turn of the "dancing icons" feature in the ubuntu dock, but don't know how? Here it is explained better https://askubuntu.com/questions/1425787/how-to-stop-dock-icons-from-shaking-when-receiving-a-notification | 19:19 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: Ugh. They're not supposed to mess with the non-graphical level. | 19:20 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: If you do try re-installing the nvidia drivers, be sure to follow the directions exactly, step-by-step. You might have to clear out any Ubuntu drivers first. | 19:22 |
| Mylon | jhutchins: What do you mean? Who is 'they'? | 19:22 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: The people who set up the modules of a graphics system, drivers and such. The ones who determine what loads where. | 19:22 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: We (users) are having to strongly resist the Windows concept that the system has to have a GUI to run, and it's getting more difficult to have that option. | 19:23 |
| rob0 | "We have met the enemy, and they is us." --Pogo (Walt Kelly) | 19:23 |
| Mylon | Well, there's hardly anything on this computer. | 19:23 |
| jhutchins | When you have to fix the GUI because it doesn't work, but you have to have the GUI to fix it, you're in a Catch 22 no-win situation. | 19:24 |
| Mylon | I did a fresh install and a samba share... I could go back to some other distro. | 19:24 |
| jhutchins | I guess there's a Windows solution: re-install the whole OS. | 19:24 |
| jhutchins | Mylon: It's not likely to be different on another distro, but you could try. | 19:24 |
| Mylon | If I have 2 display options, how do I force one? | 19:25 |
| Mylon | Like use the intel graphics chip? | 19:25 |
| ElQuePasaDesaper | Buenas noches :D | 19:30 |
| ElQuePasaDesaper | Bueno, veo que por aquí no habla nadie en realidad :-P | 19:39 |
| webchat24 | hi | 20:14 |
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| no-one | Greetings! Im trying to locate a file "~/.mozilla/native-messaging-hosts" using the files gui. I have show hidden files ticked yet for some reason its not showing. Is there another setting that may be hiding it from my view? | 21:18 |
| rbox | the .mozilla directory doesnt show up? | 21:20 |
| no-one | .mozilla shows up but im not seeing any files matching the description native-messaging-hosts | 21:21 |
| rbox | sounds like it doesnt exist then | 21:21 |
| no-one | I think I may be following my troubleshooting guide incorrectly then. Thankyou for the verification I didnt miss a setting then lol | 21:23 |
| ravage | keep in mind that current Ubuntu versions run firefox as a snap and dont use ~/.mozilla | 21:23 |
| no-one | I removed the snap and installed from the repository | 21:25 |
| no-one | Im trying to get keepassxc browser integration going again. Had it working awhile back by installing from the repo but I seemed to have forgotten how exactly I did it. | 21:26 |
| no-one | Found it, Looks like the version from the software store wouldnt take. Thanks for the help | 21:32 |
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