[00:24] <BlueSmoke> Hi I made a backup of my home folder of ubuntu 20.04 with rsync of a differnt drive than the live one, Im using now if there a way to mount it so I can open the web browser from that backup as I want to accsess some shortcuts I made there
[00:24] <BlueSmoke> is*
[00:38] <Bit> I've been having an issue with sudo apt update in a WSL2 Jammy install and I cannot find any answers that help. Whenever I run the command, it takes a while to output anything (kinda like it's timing out), and when it does have something, it's "Ign:1 http:archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease". If I let it go long enough it says it has a "Temorary failure resolving '*url*'. I've tried uninstalling the WSL app, updating WSL, doing whatever I could find on
[00:38] <Bit> StackExchanges, but nothing has helped. I can ping Google, so network isn't the issue. This started after I tried to add the deadsnake ppa, but I don't know what that would've done to screw it up like this.
[00:39] <Bit> I should specify, it's not specifically archive, it's all of the urls apt update tries to call
[00:40] <ravage> Bit: you have to fix your WSL2 DNS resolving then
[00:44] <Bit> ravage: Thank you! It's connected to them now. Follow up question: Is there a way to add a secondary DNS to the /etc/resolv.conf file? Is it just adding a comma after the first DNS address?
[00:45] <ravage> one namserver per line
[00:45] <ravage> nameserver 8.8.8.8
[00:45] <ravage> nameserver 8.8.4.4
[00:46] <ravage> also check if "generateResolvConf = false" you have in your wsl.conf: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/5068#issuecomment-1268171185
[00:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 5068 in microsoft/WSL "WSL2 , problem with network connection when VPN used (PulseSecure)" [Open]
[00:46] <ravage> or it may be overwritten on the next reboot
[00:56] <Bit> I set that in my wsl.conf file, and restarted. My resolv.conf file got overwritten again. When looking up how to change the WSL DNS, someone mentioned that wsl.conf might have a symlink. I did ls -l and there was an entry of '-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30 (today's date and time) wsl.conf'. Is that the symlink, and how to I remove it?
[00:57] <murmel> it's not a symlink
[00:58] <murmel> symlinks have somethink like wsl.conf -> /etc/path/to/real/file
[01:01] <ravage> Bit: i dont use WSL but maybe this is helpful https://gist.github.com/coltenkrauter/608cfe02319ce60facd76373249b8ca6
[01:02] <ravage> i think the "chattr +i resolv.conf" may be the real fix here
[01:03] <ravage> so edit the resolv.conf then to the chattr and see if it survives the reboot
[01:07] <iconoclasthero> how do I change the scaling of wallpaper in 22.10?
[01:09] <ravage> iconoclasthero: install gnome-tweaks
[01:10] <iconoclasthero> that isn't just in settings > appearance?
[01:12] <iconoclasthero> or, i guess, "didn't that used to be in settings > appearance"?
[01:13] <iconoclasthero> anyway, yes, i had gnome-tweaks i just ... well see the question above for what I expected.
[01:13] <Bit> ravage: chattr +i resolv.conf did it. Thanks again for your help
[02:07] <xxy> my pc can't translate file by bluetooth, when bluetooth is opened and connected , i noticed  microphone icon appear at the same time,
[02:08] <xxy> i can't find  reasons why the bluetooth reject send file
[02:13] <chilled-entity62> I'm running Ubuntu's WSL 2, and the boot directory has a subdirectory called 'androidboot,' is this presumably related to WSL?
[02:14] <chilled-entity62> I don't recall Ubuntu having that directory normally (the androidboot part) but it's been a while.
[02:15] <murmel> chilled-entity62: normal ubuntu definitely doesn't have it, can't verify if it does exist on wsl
[02:15] <rob0> my WSL has nothing in /boot
[02:16] <rob0> must be something you installed
[02:16] <chilled-entity62> murmel I too previously had an empty boot directory. I did specify systemd boot in the wsl.conf but I don't recall systemd requiring that directory either
[02:17] <chilled-entity62> now it has what appears to be a standard boot directory except for the android part
[02:19] <chilled-entity62> if I try to look at it, the system adamantly claims that it doesn't exist
[02:30] <cnnx> is there any senior managers who look for new hires? i responded to one of your applications
[02:30] <cnnx> at canonical
[02:31] <murmel> chilled-entity62: you probably mean systemd not systemd boot or?
[02:32] <murmel> cnnx: you would need to contact canonical directly, we are here a community helping out people
[02:32] <murmel> sometimes people from canonical show up, but rarely
[02:32] <cnnx> ok I sent them my resume
[02:33] <grolongo> anybody doesn't see their network drives in the Ubuntu dock? I can mount and browse them without problem but they just don't show up in the left dock
[02:33] <cnnx> murmel thank you
[02:33] <cnnx> did you mount them with the cli? mount /dev/sdx /mnt/custom
[02:34] <murmel> grolongo: on wich release are you on?
[02:34] <grolongo> cnnx: I did it from CLI and from Nautilus file manager too. I'm on Ubuntu 22.10
[02:34] <cnnx> if you right click on the nework driev can you set it as desktop preference
[02:35] <grolongo> I'll try that
[02:35] <cnnx> ok
[02:35] <murmel> also make sure that it's enabled to even show up in the dock (in gnome settings -> appearance -> at the bottom you can configre the dock)
[02:36] <grolongo> murmel: did that too, but the default is to show them and I didn't change anything
[02:36] <murmel> k
[02:36] <grolongo> when I plug an usb it appears as expected, just not network drives
[02:37] <chilled-entity62> murmel yeah I just meant running systemd, just confused myself because the recommended change to the wsl.conf is [boot] systemd=true
[02:38] <chilled-entity62> I mean it apparently installed grub at some point so I don't think it's booting with systemd
[02:39] <murmel> yeah, with that you only switched the init system, but not the boot part ;)
[02:41] <chilled-entity62> yeah I don't know why they have you write it that way in the conf. To be fair I enabled it without much investigation (I'm not sure why it installed grub for example)
[02:43] <murmel> chilled-entity62: by default wsl doesn't use systemd as the init system, as it's not really needed. but people were complaining (and it gets closer to normal ubuntu)
[02:43] <murmel> grub no idea, as I can't remember what I saw last time I looked at wsl
[02:47] <chilled-entity62> I think it's still using WSL init, but I can use systemctl. I might just reinstall it without systemd.
[02:48] <chilled-entity62> The weird immutable boot directory is too unnerving.
[02:48] <murmel> chilled-entity62: oh, how did you install wsl?
[02:49] <murmel> the store version is newer than when you do wsl --install
[02:50] <chilled-entity62> I installed wsl 2, its just nice to have a real terminal when I'm in windows.
[02:50] <murmel> well I hope wsl2 as wsl1 is quite old and on life support ;)
[02:51] <murmel> but I am actually talking about wsl2 through store or cli
[02:52] <chilled-entity62> yeah I installed it from the windows store the Ubuntu LTS version.
[02:52] <murmel> kk :)
[02:57] <grolongo> murmel: do your network drives shows up in the dock? (if you have any)
[02:58] <murmel> i dont have network drives and i dont use the dock :)
[03:10] <grolongo> mm
[04:26] <Guest4620> su
[04:26] <Guest4620> apt update
[08:12] <evils[m]> so, i haven't found a solution to the 22.04 stuck on 5.4 yet, any suggestions on where to ask next?
[08:16] <tomreyn> evils[m]: you could sum up the issue so someone else could give it a go (if this was previously discussed here)
[08:17] <evils[m]> automatic update from 20.04 ended up with 22.04 being stuck on linux 5.4, 5.15 is installed, but not set up to be used...
[08:18] <tomreyn> do you mean a release upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04?
[08:18] <evils[m]> yes
[08:19] <tomreyn> can you show    sudo apt update && apt policy && apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:19] <tomreyn> actually all of those need to go to a pastebin
[08:19] <tomreyn> can you show    sudo apt update && apt policy && apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$'
[08:21] <evils[m]> got a recommended pastebin?
[08:21] <tomreyn> !paste | evils[m]
[08:22] <evils[m]> https://dpaste.com/EY34PAKBF
[08:25] <tomreyn> evils[m]: okay, this looks good so far, let's see about installed packages and pending upgrades:   apt list --installed linux* && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt -sy full-upgrade
[08:26] <evils[m]> https://dpaste.com/9HJ2VE44J
[08:27] <alkisg> evils: cat /proc/cmdline /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:28] <evils[m]> fyi: cat: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: Permission denied
[08:28] <tomreyn> evils[m]: you're missing linux-generic-hwe-22.04
[08:28] <evils[m]> tomreyn i already tried installing that, that didn't help, removed it again
[08:28] <alkisg> evils:  sudo cat /proc/cmdline /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:29] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/4we5
[08:29] <evils[m]> i have no idea what i did to get 5.15 into the grub.cfg at some point...
[08:31] <alkisg> I think that you have another boot partition somewhere with another version of grub.cfg, but since I'm n00b with zfs I'll stop talking now :)
[08:31] <tomreyn> oh, zfs on /, right
[08:31] <tomreyn> i'm a newbie there, too, and share alkisg's assumption
[08:31] <tomreyn> what's in /boot though?
[08:31] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/wplw
[08:31] <evils[m]> that
[08:32] <alkisg> evils: are you sure your boot partition is mounted? sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:32] <evils[m]> 5.4.0-21-generic being from the 10th is due to my attempts at getting stuff installed, but it seems like the kernels haven't been touched since march 2020
[08:33] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/2rjhj
[08:33] <alkisg> Your `update-grub` is either updating zfs while your boot is ext, or it's updating a different zfs snapshot than the one you're using
[08:33] <alkisg> Shouldn't bpool be mounted on /boot? No idea about zfs though
[08:34] <alkisg> Also, you mounted the efi partition on /boot/grub? Eww
[08:34] <evils[m]> zfs list, https://termbin.com/klxi
[08:34] <alkisg> Try this: umount /boot/grub
[08:34] <evils[m]> i didn't mount anything, all i did was `zfs import /dev/nvmen1p3`
[08:35] <alkisg> Then: sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:35] <alkisg> *sudo for the umount above
[08:35] <evils[m]> euhm, umount isn't going to affect /boot/grub/grub.cfg, right?
[08:35] <evils[m]> not without a update-grub?
[08:36] <alkisg> The efi partition should be mounted in /boot/efi
[08:36] <alkisg> You have it mounted two times, in /boot/efi and in /boot/grub
[08:36] <alkisg> That's certainly causing problems; not sure if it's the problem you're seeing
[08:36] <alkisg> So unmounting it will allow us to see what's below, in your bpool pool
[08:36] <evils[m]> cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg fails with no such file or directory
[08:37] <alkisg> cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:37] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/v01u0
[08:38] <alkisg> Oh. Hm. Is that a bind mount there?
[08:38] <alkisg> So you're reusing the efi partition as a ...grub directory
[08:39] <alkisg> ...I don't get the logic for that
[08:39] <evils[m]> oh, perhaps relevant, this was 20.04, but installed a few days before the release due to time constraints
[08:39] <alkisg> The /boot directory is supposed to hold vmlinuz, initrd and grub.cfg
[08:39] <alkisg> Now you put your grub.cfg in a subdiretory of a different partition; I've no idea why
[08:40] <alkisg> While the efi partition is only supposed to hold shim and grub.efi, not the real grub.cfg
[08:40] <tomreyn> also, those are usually different file systems
[08:40] <tomreyn> file system types, i should say
[08:41] <tomreyn> evils[m]: so, why this setup?
[08:41] <evils[m]> ¯_(ツ)_/¯ the ubuntu installer did this
[08:42] <tomreyn> really? i'm surprised it would do it like that.
[08:42] <tomreyn> fortunately zfs on root is marked as experimental
[08:43] <alkisg> evils: `sudo mount /boot/grub` to remount it, then `sudo ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999`.
[08:43] <evils[m]> to be fair, without the zsys stuff i'd have to have taken a train to this computer to boot it again
[08:43] <alkisg> Let's see what else you have in boot and efi...
[08:43] <alkisg> ...and grub subdir...
[08:44] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/ezst
[08:44] <evils[m]> happy scrolling...
[08:44] <alkisg> Erm, your 5.15 kernel doesn't exist in /boot
[08:46] <alkisg> sudo dpkg -S /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:47] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/frx1
[08:48] <alkisg> sudo apt install --reinstall linux-modules-5.15.0-52-generic linux-image-5.15.0-52-generic
[08:48] <evils[m]> been there, done that, doing again
[08:49] <alkisg> Well your /boot/vmlinuz-5.15.0-52-generic is missing, so if you did that previously, something is deleting it behind your back
[08:50] <evils[m]> done
[08:50] <alkisg> And is it there now?
[08:50] <evils[m]> jup...
[08:50] <evils[m]> initrd.img and vmlinuz don't point to it though
[08:50] <alkisg> No matter, you're also mising the -hwe package but these are details for now,
[08:50] <alkisg> try: sudo update-grub
[08:51] <alkisg> Then: sudo umount /boot/grub; sudo update-grub
[08:51] <alkisg> So that it goes in both file systems
[08:51] <alkisg> Then cross fingers, reboot and let's see the results...
[08:51] <evils[m]> hwe is only for getting performant use of the hardware, right?
[08:52] <evils[m]> no remounting /boot/grub before rebooting?
[08:52] <tomreyn> !hwe
[08:52] <alkisg> No need it will be remounted on reboot
[08:52] <alkisg> You have that bind-mount declared in your /etc/fstab
[08:52] <evils[m]> ok, /boot/initrd.img and vmlinuz still point to 5.4
[08:53] <tomreyn> you'll also want to to remove the outdated openssl library, and possibly other packages listed on the bottom of https://dpaste.com/EY34PAKBF.txt
[08:53] <tomreyn> but do that after reboot
[08:53] <alkisg> That's not a problem, it's taken care of kernel hooks, but grub ignores that
[08:53] <alkisg> *postinst hooks
[08:54] <evils[m]> tomreyn yea, tossing those locally installed things once i can remove 5.4 xD
[08:54] <evils[m]> ok, any other suggestions, or do i reboot?
[08:54] <alkisg> ..have a live usb nearby? :D
[08:54] <evils[m]> this PC is in a few towns over and my dad's asleep, i'm in via ssh
[08:54] <evils[m]> and he does not have an USB stick
[08:54] <tomreyn> wait till dad's awake
[08:54] <evils[m]> it's been a fun couple of days :)
[08:54] <alkisg> That's certainly not a good combination to be plain with experimental features :D
[08:54] <evils[m]> then i'll be asleep
[08:55] <alkisg> *playing
[08:55] <tomreyn> ...and has a prepared usb stick
[08:55] <evils[m]> again, without zsys i'd not have gotten this far in debugging it :)
[08:55] <alkisg> Or it wouldn't need debugging...
[08:56] <evils[m]> well, i assumed ubuntu wouldn't shoot itself in the foot
[08:56] <evils[m]> anyway, i take this to be a no on further suggestions before rebooting?
[08:57] <alkisg> Let's see your generated grub.cfg
[08:57] <evils[m]> wanted to check teh grub.cfg, but that was in /boot/grub which i unmounted, mount and cat?
[08:57] <alkisg> No, wait,
[08:57] <alkisg> (sudo ls -lR /boot/grub; sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:58] <alkisg> (sudo umount /boot/grub; sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:58] <alkisg> This will show us both of them
[08:58] <alkisg> Replace umount with mount
[08:59] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/3js6
[08:59] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/4w21
[09:00] <alkisg> The first part is missing
[09:01] <alkisg> (sud umount /boot/grub; sudo ls -lR /boot/grub) | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:01] <alkisg> To see what's underneath the mount
[09:01] <alkisg> s/sud/sudo/
[09:01] <alkisg> Oh sorry my bad
[09:01] <alkisg> It was just grub.cfg there
[09:01] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/cgjx
[09:01] <alkisg> I'd go ahead and reboot now
[09:03]  * evils[m] makes the sign of the lambda and orders a reboot
[09:04] <evils[m]> `Linux jean-itx 5.15.0-52-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 13 08:03:55 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux`
[09:04] <alkisg> systemctl status
[09:04] <alkisg> Running or degraded?
[09:04] <evils[m]> 7 queued, 0 failed
[09:05] <alkisg> Not bad so far
[09:05]  * alkisg wonders if that was a small λ or capital Λ and what did it mean... :D
[09:07]  * evils[m] uploaded an image: (18KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/nixos.dev/yRCFigDAPOJEEZywAEWEmPcO/image.png >
[09:09] <evils[m]> > * <@alkis:matrix.org> wonders if that was a small λ or capital Λ and what did it mean... :D
[09:09] <evils[m]> seemed like an appropriate time for the sign of the cross
[09:09] <evils[m]> but i'm a nixer...
[09:10] <alkisg> And you have λ instead of + ?!
[09:10] <alkisg> What happens if you run: systemctl status plymouth-quit-wait
[09:10] <alkisg> And: sudo systemctl status plymouth-quit-wait
[09:10] <alkisg> Sorry, replace the last one with:
[09:10] <alkisg> sudo systemctl stop plymouth-quit-wait
[09:10] <evils[m]> Starting Hold until boot process finishes up...
[09:11] <alkisg> And stopping it made the rest leave the waiting state?
[09:11] <evils[m]> ok, stopping left just zsys-commit.service in running
[09:11] <evils[m]> nope, that's no longer queued
[09:12] <evils[m]> 0 queued, 0 failed
[09:12] <alkisg> So no queued tasks now?
[09:12] <alkisg> OK, that's probably unrelated to the kernel update
[09:12] <alkisg> And needs to be troubleshooted separately
[09:12] <evils[m]> good time to clean up those locally installed packages?
[09:13] <alkisg> What's the output of: sudo dpkg -l | grep linux | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:14] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/4edf
[09:14] <alkisg> Start with `  sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/ { print $2 }')  `, and put the prompt to pastebin before you press yes
[09:15] <alkisg> To purge all these removed old packges
[09:15] <evils[m]> E: Removing essential system-critical packages is not permitted. This might break the system.
[09:17] <alkisg> Ctrl+C then
[09:17] <evils[m]> ah, shim-signed
[09:17] <alkisg> It means you have removed something that you shouldn't have
[09:17] <alkisg> E.g. a metapackage, so now all dependencies are left in orphan state
[09:17] <evils[m]> it canceled itself
[09:17] <evils[m]> wasn't removed, and it's the shim-signed "essential package"
[09:18] <alkisg> What's the output of this? Again press no: sudo apt purge --auto-remove
[09:18] <evils[m]> alkisg: 0 on everything
[09:18] <alkisg> For example, if you removed an ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-minimal or something metapackage, then all its dependencies are now orphan
[09:18] <evils[m]> yes, i saw that episode of ltt xD
[09:20] <evils[m]> so, filter shim-signed from the dpkg -l?
[09:20] <alkisg> Start with this one: https://termbin.com/taro
[09:22] <evils[m]> a few of these, but succeeded
[09:22] <evils[m]> `dpkg: warning: while removing linux-modules-5.4.0-74-generic, directory '/lib/modules/5.4.0-74-generic' not empty so not removed`
[09:22] <alkisg> That's OK, either dkms modules or it gets removed a bit after
[09:22] <alkisg> So now what does `dpkg -l | grep linux` look like?
[09:23] <alkisg> dpkg -l | grep linux | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:23] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/olgj
[09:24] <alkisg> sudo apt purge linux-5.4-headers-5.4.0-14 linux-headers-5.4.0-14-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-21 linux-headers-5.4.0-21-generic linux-image-5.4.0-21-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-21-generic
[09:25] <alkisg> When it's finished, upload this: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:25] <evils[m]> alkisg: that did an update-initramfs and grub config regeneration
[09:26] <alkisg> It's ok, now your grub.cfg won't have 5.4 in it
[09:26] <evils[m]> https://termbin.com/g7ud
[09:27] <alkisg> Hrm, so you can remove shim-signed but not purge it?! I don't get where the prompt comes from
[09:27] <alkisg> (although, why remove it?)
[09:27] <evils[m]> just speculating, but i was assuming it's an old one
[09:28] <alkisg> Normally I'd reinstall it, but I'm afraid to advice touching your boot process any more, as it's very volatile :)
[09:28] <alkisg> So let's leave it as it is now
[09:30] <evils[m]> so this now? `sudo apt purge --autoremove $(dpkg -l | grep -v "shim-signed" | grep ^rc)`
[09:31] <evils[m]>  * so this now? `sudo apt purge --autoremove $(dpkg -l | grep -v "shim-signed" | awk '/^rc/ { print $2 }' )`
[09:32] <alkisg> Leave out mysql-common too for now, in some weird cases I saw it purging databases before users migrated to newer versions or maria-db
[09:33] <evils[m]> done
[09:33] <alkisg> 👍️
[09:34] <alkisg> When you're close to dad, reinstall shim-signed
[09:34] <evils[m]> will do
[09:34] <evils[m]> i guess that leaves the plymouth issue?
[09:35] <alkisg> Yup. It's probably unrelated to the kernel upgrade though
[09:35] <evils[m]> ah and i should probably install some -hwe package now
[09:37] <alkisg> Not necessarily
[09:37] <alkisg> The linux-generic users stay in the same kernel
[09:37] <alkisg> The linux-generic-hwe ones upgrade to newer kernels every 6 months
[09:37] <alkisg> Not everyone wants that as it's causing instabilities
[09:37] <alkisg> While it's good for new installations on new hardware
[09:38] <alkisg> Hence 22.04.1 has linux-generic, while 22.04.2+ get linux-generic-hwe
[09:38] <alkisg> Read the link that tomreyn had posted
[09:40] <evils[m]> k
[09:40] <evils[m]> anything else to be done with the boot or kernel setup?
[09:41] <grolongo> does someone has his network drives showing in the dock?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> not sure thats working grolongo
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> maybe other docks like plank, not sure
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> grolongo: you could dig into dconf-editor or search gnome extensions perhaps
[09:43] <evils[m]> alkisg: could the plymouth thing not finishing and holding up multi-user.target be the login screen not being logged in to?
[09:48] <grolongo> lotuspsychje: it's supposed to be enabled by default on stock Ubuntu, but it doesn't show anything in the dock
[09:48] <alkisg> evils: no
[09:48] <alkisg> evils: It's waiting for something, you could check the plymouth logs for what it is, or you could just quickly systemctl mask the unit and call it a day :D
[09:49] <grolongo> lotuspsychje: I'm guessing that's a bug since I didn't tweak anything myself, only mounted a network drive. but I don't know if others can repoduce it
[09:51] <evils[m]> alkisg: nothing in the logs, guess i'll mask it
[09:51] <evils[m]> alkisg: thanks so much for your help, was stuck on this since the 9th...
[09:51] <alkisg> Cheers! :)
[09:51] <evils[m]> do you have a clear idea of what resolved it?
[09:52] <evils[m]> to me it kinda seems like ordering a reinstall of the 5.15 packages did it
[09:52] <evils[m]> that and mounting/unmounting /boot/grub to distribute the config
[09:52] <alkisg> Yes, but I don't have a clear idea of why the files weren't there
[09:52] <alkisg> Something was deleting them, but I've no idea what
[09:52] <alkisg> ...as it was before the troublehooting started
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> grolongo: mounted devices should show on the dock indeed, but didnt test network mounts yet myself
[09:53] <alkisg> evils: but they were there when `update-grub` was called, as the generated grub.cfg did have them
[09:54] <grolongo> lotuspsychje: yep, pluging an USB key for eg shows it correctly
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> grolongo: in dconf-editor i see the value; show-mounts-network
[09:57] <evils[m]> ok, masked plymouth-quit-wait, boots completely now
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> (on dash-to-dock)
[09:57] <evils[m]> i don't suppose anyone knows if there's a correct way of cleaning up older zfs snapshots from zsys, besides just ordering zfs to delete them?
[09:57] <grolongo> lotuspsychje: it should be "true" by default right?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> grolongo: its enabled at my side, so i assume yes
[09:59] <grolongo> same, you can also find it in Settings > Ubuntu Desktop > Configure dock behavior > Include Network Volumes
[09:59] <grolongo> but doesnt seem to work, at least on 22.10
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> grolongo: just tested on a local ftp here, doesnt show on dock indeed
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> only in nautilus left pane
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> grolongo: weird, as its known here; https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/1338
[10:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1338 in micheleg/dash-to-dock "dash-to-dock is not showing mounted network volumes and devices" [Closed]
[10:04] <grolongo> lotuspsychje: exactly this. I might reopen an issue to see whats going on
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> yeah, file it against ubuntu-bug gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock please grolongo
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> you might also discuss it at #ubuntu-next grolongo
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> maybe others can try to reproduce it
[10:10] <BlueSmoke> if I did a rsync backup of my home folder on 20.04 can I mount that backup and run the version on the brouser in that backup I want to get to some bookmaks I had in there
[10:11] <BlueSmoke> of*
[10:12] <BlueSmoke> oh if the browser stuff and bookmarks outside of the home folder ?
[10:12] <BlueSmoke> or is*
[10:22] <evils[m]> at least for firefox, bookmarks are in .mozilla/firefox/*/bookmarkbackups
[10:23] <Intelo> $ sudo swapon /swapfile  ->  swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Invalid argument
[10:23] <Intelo> any help on that?
[10:23] <Intelo> $ sudo swapon /swapfile  ->  swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Invalid argument
[10:24] <Intelo> BlueSmoke what in the world are you typing
[10:25] <BlueSmoke> thanks I'm using brave!  had to recover the other day and made a backup
[10:29] <BlueSmoke> wanted to mount different backups and run the browser to loof for some bookmarks I made but not sure how to I'm looking arounfd on google too
[12:01] <opa7331> I run 22.04 and would like to turn of the "dancing icons" feature in the ubuntu dock. Here it is explained better https://askubuntu.com/questions/1425787/how-to-stop-dock-icons-from-shaking-when-receiving-a-notification
[12:13] <cacodemon> Hi guys, why is there no WSL release for 22.04 LTS in https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/22.04/release/ like there is for 21.04 (https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/hirsute/release/ubuntu-21.04-server-cloudimg-amd64-wsl.rootfs.tar.gz) ?
[12:14] <cacodemon> nvm, just found it. it moved to https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/jammy/current/
[12:16] <murmel> cacodemon: may I ask you how you can import those?
[12:33] <tarel2> arm-none-eabi-gcc does Ubuntu have that?
[12:34] <oerheks> cacodemon the location has changed to https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/
[12:34] <oerheks> oh, gone
[13:39] <FNAShinobi> is it possible to have a specific application use a different default gateway than the rest of my system?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:09] <rob0> FNAShinobi: "policy routing" is the feature, but doing it by application might be tricky. It generally would work by user and/or protocol[/port].
[14:10] <rob0> Maybe a network namespace, idk?
[15:00] <Intelo> There are apps that open multiple terminals and you enter command once but it gets entered in all the terminals. Can anyone recommend that app?
[15:21] <oerheks> Intelo, and what is the name of such weird app?
[15:29] <Dreamer409> tmux might do that
[15:30] <Dreamer409> eh, oh well :P
[15:46] <rbancroft> anyone know how to disable swap file creation in the autoinstall? I see the option in the curtain documentation but I don't know how to pass it via autoinstall
[15:48] <rbancroft> *curtin
[15:48] <oerheks> https://curtin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/config.html#swap
[15:49] <oerheks> from https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall-reference
[15:51] <Randolf> My OBS snap installation suddenly stopped working -- it was fine last week.  I also can't update with apt.
[15:51] <Randolf> I'm getting errors about keys.
[15:52] <rbancroft> hmm,I followed the instructions there, and it doesn't create a swap partition, but it still creates a swap.img file
[15:53] <oerheks> what if you delete the whole 'swap: .. '
[15:53] <oerheks> would that skip swap.img of 0mb
[15:56] <rbancroft> ok, I will try... I'll need to specify my other partitions though. right now I'm just using an automatic partition layout
[15:59] <rbancroft> I missed this part, oops: If the “layout” feature is used to configure the disks, the “config” section will not be used.
[16:01] <oerheks> sounds logical
[16:35] <rbancroft> thanks oerheks, gotta step away for a bit but this helps
[17:00] <Intelo> Linux, I believe and guess, isn't that stable as freebsd is. Or is it just ubuntu and I should try another distro? anyway, with specially UI, it bloats under heavy load. Now the problem is that Linux has a lot of utilities that I am used to an need. Some configs, shortcuts etc. Until I find a way, how can I run both linux and freebsd at the same
[17:00] <Intelo> time? I thought of installing freebsd as guess and linux as host in virtualbox. Or vice versa is better? Or any other option? I think virtualbox based virtualization will be a bottleneck somewhere? Do I have other options? I need to run both at the same time in the start so that I can use in linux what freebsd does not have (or I do not yet get an
[17:00] <Intelo> alternative/solution)? Any thoughts?
[17:01] <ravage> Intelo: please use #ubuntu-discuss . This is the ubuntu support channel
[17:02] <ravage> or if you want to discuss freebsd: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:02] <Intelo> OK sir
[17:02] <Intelo> ravage thank you sir
[17:24] <Guest403> #ubnutu
[17:24] <Guest403> bonjour
[17:45] <rbancroft> oerheks: yay ok. disabling the swap file works as long as you specify the storage config. thanks!
[17:46] <Intelo>  $ xterm      Maximum number of clients reachedxterm: Xt error: Can't open display: :0
[17:46] <Intelo> I have too many terminals open. I can't run anything else now. What to do?
[17:48] <jhutchins> Kill some terminals.
[17:49] <jhutchins> Intelo: You should be able to access the non-graphic terminals, Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc.
[17:49] <Mylon> Hello! I recently tried installing a driver for a Nvidia Tesla m40 and now my computer won't boot. I guess it's trying to use the m40 as the display device, even though I have been and was using my integrated graphics just fine. How do I fix this?
[17:49] <jhutchins> Intelo: You can selectively kill some, or just restart gdm to re-launch the X system.
[17:50] <murmel> Mylon: boot with nomodeset and remove driver/fix driver
[17:50] <murmel> so hit esc/shift during boot to bring grub menu and then press e on the boot entry to add nomodeset on the linux line
[17:50] <Mylon> I tried launching recovery mode and it spit out a bunch of errors but eventually dumped me into a terminal.
[17:51] <jhutchins> Mylon: Ok, so you have a terminal.  What's your next question?
[17:52] <jpmh> I am a little confused about the arp command - it shows what I expect interms of connected devices, or more to the point those that I have connected to, but seems to maintain that memory for a very long time.  How lomng is the cache maintained?
[17:52] <jhutchins> jpmh: Why does this matter?
[17:53] <jpmh> jhutchins: we are considering offereing one more "statistic" for our clients
[17:54] <jpmh> jhutchins: and I really just want to understand it -the docs seem to say that the cache time is short - but arp shows them for a long time
[17:54] <jhutchins> How long is a piece of string?
[17:54] <Mylon> Oh, maybe I don't have a terminal....  I tries "ls" and then a terminal-like window responded like it captured the input instead...
[17:56] <Mylon> I'm back to the grub menu. I can edit Ubuntu 22.04 or Advanced options for 22.04
[17:56] <Mylon> I'm not sure where to add "nomodeset".
[17:57] <ravage> !kernelparams | Mylon
[17:57] <ravage> Hm
[17:58] <ravage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[18:03] <Mylon> Welp... I tried.
[18:03] <Mylon> Gave seome errors, then showed the splash screen for a little while, now it's spamming, "NVIDIA device is invalid"
[18:04] <Mylon> "This PCI I/O region assigned to your NVIDIA device is invalid"
[18:05] <Mylon> It's a dedicated number crunching card so just want to use the dedicated graphics card.
[18:05] <Mylon> *the integrated graphics chip
[18:08] <Mylon> This was using the "nomodeset" line added to the grub launcher.
[18:09] <A_Dragon> Intelo: This includes this channel. and any other on the network.
[18:20] <Mylon> Any other recommendations on how to recover my system?
[18:21] <Intelo> A_Dragon make me
[18:21] <Intelo> A_Dragon I refuse to leave this channel. You make me leave.
[18:22] <Mylon> Woo, drama.
[18:22] <Intelo> :)
[18:22] <Mylon> 🦙
[18:22] <Mylon> I'm gonna remove the nvidia card and see what happens.
[18:23] <Mylon> Woo, sucker is warm and it wasn't even doing anything.
[18:24] <jhutchins> Mylon: You might try booting with the kernel parameter systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[18:24] <jhutchins> Mylon: nomodeset just cripples the Nvideo subsystem, it still tries to load.
[18:24] <Mylon> Okay, it booted fine witih the card removed.
[18:25] <jhutchins> Mylon: Well, great, fix it from there.  Reverse whatever steps you took to enable nvidia.
[18:25] <Mylon> I imagine I will still want the drivers, just not used as a display device.
[18:26] <jhutchins> Mylon: Yes, you'll still need some kind of driver.
[18:26] <Mylon> I'm in "software & Updates" > "Additional Drivers" which is where I found the nvidia drivers but nothing is listed and the revert button is grayed out.
[18:27] <jhutchins> Mylon: Use the console tools, not the GUI.
[18:27] <Mylon> I am very inexperienced with the terminal.
[18:28] <Mylon> You told me to reverse the steps... Well I instaleld it using the gui.
[18:28] <Mylon> I had also downloaded a driver package but when I tried to run it, it suggested I use the gui instead.
[18:29] <Mylon> Downloaded from nvidia's website, even.
[18:30] <Mylon> Barring any other ideas, I'll just reinstall the card and see what happens. And if that fails I'll try the kernel param above.
[18:55] <explodes> I am so upset I can't even /s --
[18:55] <explodes> Why does my computer screen go black after 30 seconds even though the setting is 5 minutes?
[18:59] <FNAShinobi> rob0: Thanks! I'll check the policy routing out. By port would work fine.
[19:00] <arraybolt3> explodes: Maybe your monitor has a power saving setting that's doing it, not the OS?
[19:01] <explodes> It just started this behavior a couple months ago, idk y
[19:12] <Mylon> >  Mylon: You might try booting with the kernel parameter systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[19:12] <Mylon> I tried this, no luck. Still saying nvidia device is invalid
[19:12] <jpmh> if I encrypt my home directorywill this prevent me from being able to use public key protection on ssh - I assume that it will since the .ssh/authorized_keys will not be available.  Is this true and is there a way around this
[19:19] <opa7331> I run 22.04 and would like to turn of the "dancing icons" feature in the ubuntu dock, but don't know how? Here it is explained better https://askubuntu.com/questions/1425787/how-to-stop-dock-icons-from-shaking-when-receiving-a-notification
[19:20] <jhutchins> Mylon: Ugh.  They're not supposed to mess with the non-graphical level.
[19:22] <jhutchins> Mylon: If you do try re-installing the nvidia drivers, be sure to follow the directions exactly, step-by-step.  You might have to clear out any Ubuntu drivers first.
[19:22] <Mylon> jhutchins: What do you mean? Who is 'they'?
[19:22] <jhutchins> Mylon: The people who set up the modules of a graphics system, drivers and such.  The ones who determine what loads where.
[19:23] <jhutchins> Mylon: We (users) are having to strongly resist the Windows concept that the system has to have a GUI to run, and it's getting more difficult to have that option.
[19:23] <rob0> "We have met the enemy, and they is us." --Pogo (Walt Kelly)
[19:23] <Mylon> Well, there's hardly anything on this computer.
[19:24] <jhutchins> When you have to fix the GUI because it doesn't work, but you have to have the GUI to fix it, you're in a Catch 22 no-win situation.
[19:24] <Mylon> I did a fresh install and a samba share... I could go back to some other distro.
[19:24] <jhutchins> I guess there's a Windows solution: re-install the whole OS.
[19:24] <jhutchins> Mylon: It's not likely to be different on another distro, but you could try.
[19:25] <Mylon> If I have 2 display options, how do I force one?
[19:25] <Mylon> Like use the intel graphics chip?
[19:30] <ElQuePasaDesaper> Buenas noches :D
[19:39] <ElQuePasaDesaper> Bueno, veo que por aquí no habla nadie en realidad :-P
[20:14] <webchat24> hi
[21:18] <no-one> Greetings! Im trying to locate a file "~/.mozilla/native-messaging-hosts" using the files gui. I have show hidden files ticked yet for some reason its not showing. Is there another setting that may be hiding it from my view?
[21:20] <rbox> the .mozilla directory doesnt show up?
[21:21] <no-one> .mozilla shows up but im not seeing any files matching the description native-messaging-hosts
[21:21] <rbox> sounds like it doesnt exist then
[21:23] <no-one> I think I may be following my troubleshooting guide incorrectly then. Thankyou for the verification I didnt miss a setting then lol
[21:23] <ravage> keep in mind that current Ubuntu versions run firefox as a snap and dont use ~/.mozilla
[21:25] <no-one> I removed the snap and installed from the repository
[21:26] <no-one> Im trying to get keepassxc browser integration going again. Had it working awhile back by installing from the repo but I seemed to have forgotten how exactly I did it.
[21:32] <no-one> Found it, Looks like the version from the software store wouldnt take. Thanks for the help