[14:43] <RikMills> so haruna replacing vlc. much testing done there?
[15:46] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Yeah, it works great! Much more solid than VLC. VLC is full of bugs, I keep watching them roll-in on the Debian-multimedia ML.
[15:51] <RikMills> :D
[15:54] <RikMills> must admit, I switched to mpv based player quite a few years ago. much better
[16:01]  * OvenWerks tries watching a youtube video on haruna
[16:07] <OvenWerks> Doesn't work well for streaming for me. I think it tries to grab the best rez and my connection can't handle it. There seems to be no way of changing that. Not a deal breaker for sure. Does not have video record as VLC does. Doesn't play video from V4L devices as VLC does.
[16:14] <OvenWerks> When all else fails I still find myself usinng zine for some videos
[16:28] <RikMills> not sure I like youtube-dl on ISOs :/
[16:29] <Eickmeyer> Same. If you're going to have youtube-dl, better have a front-end for it.
[16:29] <OvenWerks> Its a recomends
[16:30] <OvenWerks>  it doesn't have to be shipped on the iso
[16:30] <Eickmeyer> Oh, I guess it already is there.
[16:31] <RikMills> so it will end up on ISOs
[16:32] <Eickmeyer> Actually, we don't seed it directly, so I don't know where it's coming from
[16:32] <RikMills> $ reverse-depends youtube-dl
[16:32] <RikMills> Reverse-Recommends
[16:33] <RikMills> * celluloid [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x]
[16:33] <RikMills> * haruna [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x]
[16:33] <RikMills> * libmpv1 [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x]
[16:33] <RikMills> * lollypop
[16:33] <RikMills> * mpv [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x]
[16:33] <RikMills> Reverse-Depends
[16:33] <RikMills> * mkchromecast
[16:33] <RikMills> * youtubedl-gui [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x]
[16:33] <Eickmeyer> Ah, haruna does it then.
[16:33] <Eickmeyer> No matter if haruna is doing it as a frontend.
[16:34] <RikMills> If youtube-dl is not having legal problems any more, I guess it is ok
[16:34] <Eickmeyer> They're not.
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> If they were, they would've been 86'd from Debian long ago.
[16:38] <OvenWerks> ytdownload is constantly being updated (last I played with it much), How does the repo deal with that? or does it just become a doesn't work 3 months after release?
[16:38] <OvenWerks> s/ytdownload/youtube-dl/
[17:22] <Eickmeyer> youtube-dl is synced from Debian.
[17:23] <Eickmeyer> Last time they updated it was the 2021.12.17-1 release though.
[17:23] <Eickmeyer> That said, it seems to work.
[17:25] <Eickmeyer> If someone wants a more up-to-date version, there's always the snap: https://snapcraft.io/youtube-dl
[20:37] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: Yeah it isn't broken code, the normal breakage is YT changing their protocol.
[20:51] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: The user on #ubuntustudio is probablu using ubuntu desktop
[20:58] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: Are all our audio metas dependent on controls?
[21:04] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: it may be a good idea to suggest ubuntudesktop users do not install controls, jackd, etc. (Carla, qjackctl, etc can still be useful)
[21:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I guess that includes ubuntustudio-installer
[22:42] <OvenWerks> Though if puleaudio is not installed it should cause not harm.