[14:43] so haruna replacing vlc. much testing done there? [15:46] RikMills: Yeah, it works great! Much more solid than VLC. VLC is full of bugs, I keep watching them roll-in on the Debian-multimedia ML. [15:51] :D [15:54] must admit, I switched to mpv based player quite a few years ago. much better [16:01] * OvenWerks tries watching a youtube video on haruna [16:07] Doesn't work well for streaming for me. I think it tries to grab the best rez and my connection can't handle it. There seems to be no way of changing that. Not a deal breaker for sure. Does not have video record as VLC does. Doesn't play video from V4L devices as VLC does. [16:14] When all else fails I still find myself usinng zine for some videos [16:28] not sure I like youtube-dl on ISOs :/ [16:29] Same. If you're going to have youtube-dl, better have a front-end for it. [16:29] Its a recomends [16:30] it doesn't have to be shipped on the iso [16:30] Oh, I guess it already is there. [16:31] so it will end up on ISOs [16:32] Actually, we don't seed it directly, so I don't know where it's coming from [16:32] $ reverse-depends youtube-dl [16:32] Reverse-Recommends [16:33] * celluloid [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x] [16:33] * haruna [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x] [16:33] * libmpv1 [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x] [16:33] * lollypop [16:33] * mpv [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x] [16:33] Reverse-Depends [16:33] * mkchromecast [16:33] * youtubedl-gui [amd64 arm64 armhf ppc64el s390x] [16:33] Ah, haruna does it then. [16:33] No matter if haruna is doing it as a frontend. [16:34] If youtube-dl is not having legal problems any more, I guess it is ok [16:34] They're not. [16:35] If they were, they would've been 86'd from Debian long ago. [16:38] ytdownload is constantly being updated (last I played with it much), How does the repo deal with that? or does it just become a doesn't work 3 months after release? [16:38] s/ytdownload/youtube-dl/ [17:22] youtube-dl is synced from Debian. [17:23] Last time they updated it was the 2021.12.17-1 release though. [17:23] That said, it seems to work. [17:25] If someone wants a more up-to-date version, there's always the snap: https://snapcraft.io/youtube-dl [20:37] Eickmeyer[m]: Yeah it isn't broken code, the normal breakage is YT changing their protocol. [20:51] Eickmeyer[m]: The user on #ubuntustudio is probablu using ubuntu desktop [20:58] Eickmeyer[m]: Are all our audio metas dependent on controls? [21:04] Eickmeyer[m]: it may be a good idea to suggest ubuntudesktop users do not install controls, jackd, etc. (Carla, qjackctl, etc can still be useful) [21:05] Eickmeyer[m]: I guess that includes ubuntustudio-installer [22:42] Though if puleaudio is not installed it should cause not harm.