[00:35] <lsd|2> Polish King in Munchien https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIxlfNDwzBM
[01:04] <MockingMoniker> So, I have a PPA I added and I get an unmet dependency when trying to install a pakcage from it... I found out that in order to fix it I need to refer to the exact package name with version info, and not let apt figure it out... how do I figure out the exact package name?
[01:04] <MockingMoniker> I know that apt-cache search finds a description (but I don't see anything else).
[01:15] <Bashing-om> MockingMoniker: ' dpkg -l <package_name> ' might be one way forward.
[01:21] <MockingMoniker> Is it possible to make sure apt/dpkg ignore all packages of a pattern for one repository and add only those of a perferred repo? I have a PPA with packages that I want to install but there are some packages with the same name on my system.
[01:22] <Bashing-om> !pin | MockingMoniker
[01:22] <arraybolt3> Maybe look into apt pinning?
[01:22] <MockingMoniker> basically if I install kodi-* then all the Ubuntu repos are entirely eignored but all the onse for the Kodi team's PPA are only pulled.
[01:22] <MockingMoniker> OK, looking into it.
[01:22] <arraybolt3> Bashing-om: Heh, I missed by one second.
[01:23] <ax562> good evening.  Is there nvidia drivers support for ubuntu 22.04 lts with wayland/low-latency-kernel?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> MockingMoniker: Versoning control - apt will always look at the latest verson numbers.
[01:23] <ax562> or just Wayland?
[01:24] <Bashing-om> ax562: So far as I know - nvidia/Wayland support is spotty at best.
[01:25] <Bashing-om> ax562: If you recall - Nvidia required that we pull Wayland support from their proprietary driver :(
[01:26] <ax562> ah ok, I was getting conflicting info from my search.  What would be the way to go if one would try to take the plunge on trying to get it working? site or tutorial?
[01:27] <ax562> Bashing-om been on the Deb/Bullseye trains for a minute so I have not kept my ear too open on Ubuntu news.  I had not heard about Nvidia pulling Wayland support from drivers.
[01:28] <ravage> ax562: install linux-image-lowlatency and install the nvidia driver via "additional drivers" in gnome or use "ubuntu-drivers" on the terminal
[01:29] <ax562> ravage thanks, I will try and report back.  I'm already using the low latency linux kernel.  I'll report findings shortly.
[01:42] <ax562> ravage the little gear on the login screen is not visible to change the option from gnome-X to gnome(wayland) after nvidia-driver install.
[01:42] <ax562> I did modify the gnome cofig file to "WAYLAND=true".
[01:44] <ax562> as Bashing-om mentioned, I do not think it's possible :(
[01:45] <MockingMoniker> So, I'm trying to tell Ubuntu to not use a repo for a package glob (kodi*) and I added a file to /etc/apt/preferences.d with line 1: Package: kodi*; line 21: Pin: release n=jammy; Line 3: Pin_priority: -1; but apt policy kodi shows the default priority.
[01:47] <ravage> ax562: WAYLAND=true sounds wrong: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-enable-disable-wayland-on-ubuntu-20-04-desktop
[01:49] <ax562> ravage that is the exact site I used.  Please excuse the syntax err, I'm using 2 different machines
[01:49] <ravage> MockingMoniker: dont clutter your system with PPAs. they offer a flatpak. just use that for kodi
[01:51] <ravage> ax562: thats the only place i know of that would disable that. but maybe there is another. but im almost certain you would not be very happy with wayland+nvidia
[01:51] <ravage> i tried switching a few times. never got everything working that i need
[01:52] <MockingMoniker> Still, how do I prevent my system from installing packages from the Ubuntu repos with pattern kodi*?
[02:13] <lenswipe> Hey folks, I have a Dell laptop with an ipu6 camera and have followed the directions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dell to get the camera up and working
[02:13] <lenswipe> however, after a reboot that seems to no longer be the case
[02:13] <lenswipe> the camera _is_working (sort of) in that cheese can detect two ipu6 cameras. But they are no longer available to zoom or OBS etc.
[02:14] <arraybolt3> How do you have Zoom and OBS installed?
[02:14] <lenswipe> from the snap store I think
[02:15] <lenswipe> wait, no
[02:15] <arraybolt3> Hmm, do they have permission to access the camera? Check the Snap permissions.
[02:15] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, i'll look into it but again..this _was_ working
[02:15] <lenswipe> i was screwing around with v4l2loopback before it broke so that may be why
[02:15] <lenswipe> but I wasn't aware that changes to that persisted through reboots and...I wouldn't think that would break it, surely?
[02:16] <arraybolt3> v4l2loopback uses a kernel driver as part of its magic, so... yeah, that may persist through reboots.
[02:16] <MockingMoniker> ravage: that does give me a lot more peace of mind. Now I know I'm keeping my packages sorted.
[02:16] <lenswipe> so, zoom was installed using the .deb from their website - OBS meanwhile did indeed come from the snap store
[02:16] <ax562> couldn't get Wayland working.  Decided to just stay on X.  Thanks for all the help ravage Bashing-om
[02:17] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, right, i wonder if I've broken something with that - v4l-ctl --list-devices does show 4 devices -  /dev/video2, /dev/media0 which are apparently both "ipu6" and two v4l2lo0 and v4l2lo1 devices as /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 respectively
[02:18] <arraybolt3> I see this in that Wiki page you linked: "Ubuntu 22.04 includes gstreamer1.0-pipewire plugin to replace v4l2 gstreamer plugin." I wonder if having v4l2 stuff installed along with is making things get confused?
[02:18] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, i don't know
[02:18] <lenswipe> i didn't install v4l2 afaik
[02:18] <arraybolt3> But you did install v4l2loopback.
[02:18] <lenswipe> I did?
[02:19] <arraybolt3> 20:15:24         lenswipe | i was screwing around with v4l2loopback before it broke so that may be why
[02:19] <lenswipe> right
[02:19] <lenswipe> i don't remember installing that though
[02:19] <lenswipe> maybe OBS brings it in?
[02:19] <arraybolt3> Doubtful, unless the OBS Snap is unconfined.
[02:19] <lenswipe> hmm
[02:19] <lenswipe> it's possible I installed it, i dont remember
[02:19] <arraybolt3> (If an unconfined Snap can install a kernel module, that would be a total defeat of the Snap security model.)
[02:19] <lenswipe> either way - what's the best way to fix this?
[02:20] <lenswipe> just uninstall v4l2?
[02:20] <lenswipe> and/or v4l2loopback
[02:20] <arraybolt3> I don't know. What does "sudo apt remove v4l2loopback" say it's going to uninstall?
[02:20] <lenswipe> E: Unable to locate package v4l2loopback
[02:20] <arraybolt3> Er... ok one moment.
[02:21] <arraybolt3> sudo apt remove v4l2loopback-dkms
[02:21] <arraybolt3> (I don't really know how to fix this, this is just me taking shots in the dark based on the info I have, so I'm sorry in advance if this doesn't work.)
[02:21] <lenswipe> ah!
[02:21] <lenswipe> Package 'v4l2loopback-dkms' is not installed, so not removed
[02:22] <arraybolt3> Hmm. That's odd.
[02:22] <lenswipe> indeed
[02:22] <lenswipe> I mean, this _was_ working even with v4l2loopback installed (or not, as the case may be)
[02:23] <arraybolt3> Did you happen to change anything related to Secure Boot?
[02:23] <lenswipe> uhhh, not afaik - I mean - I'm using secure boot but otherwise no
[02:24] <wr> what would i use to install a deb file on ubuntu 22.10?
[02:24] <arraybolt3> OK that *might* be a clue, one moment...
[02:24] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, my recollection of events was that i had a working clean ubuntu install, so I copied over my entire home dir from my old machine...after which my webcam no longer worked
[02:24] <lenswipe> which makes absolutely no sense
[02:24] <arraybolt3> wr: "sudo apt install ./filename.deb" from within the folder containing the .deb file
[02:25] <arraybolt3> lenswipe: What does "ls /var/lib/shim-signed/mok" show? I only need to know if there are files in there or not, do **NOT** share the contents of the files in there.
[02:25] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, yeah of course lol
[02:25] <lenswipe> yeah, there's files in there - MOK.der  MOK.priv
[02:26] <arraybolt3> Hmm. Well then it's not likely to be Secure Boot's fault...
[02:26] <arraybolt3> Is there anything related to Zoom or OBS in the hidden files within your home folder?
[02:26] <lenswipe> indeed
[02:26] <lenswipe> uh...i guess there _could_ be..
[02:26] <lenswipe> but..
[02:27] <lenswipe> Zoom sees no camera at all
[02:27] <lenswipe> OBS also sees no camera
[02:27] <arraybolt3> Also try making a new user account and see if anything can see the camera from there.
[02:27] <lenswipe> Cheese sees two cameras both called ipu6. But I'm not setting a lot of store by that because cheese is broken in the latest release afaik
[02:27] <lenswipe> yeah, was thinking of doing that
[02:27] <lenswipe> will try it and get back to you
[02:27] <arraybolt3> If it works in a clean user account, then it is the fault of something you copied over.
[02:27] <lenswipe> yeah
[02:27] <lenswipe> but like - that'd be pretty nuts
[02:27] <arraybolt3> (Or at least it's very likely to be.)
[02:28] <lenswipe> home dir stuff shouldn't break hardware like that
[02:28] <arraybolt3> lenswipe: I wouldn't be surprised if something was cached that caused the problem.
[02:28] <lenswipe> webcamtests.com can't even see it
[02:31] <arraybolt3> lenswipe: Also is Webcamoid able to see it?
[02:31] <arraybolt3> That's the camera software I have.
[02:32] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, okay, just swithced to a new user account - doesn't work there either
[02:32] <arraybolt3> :(
[02:32] <lenswipe> lets' try webcamoid
[02:32] <lenswipe> I'm not hopeful
[02:34] <lenswipe> yeah, webcamoid is a bust too
[02:34] <lenswipe> it's trying to use /dev/video0 and failing
[02:36] <MockingMoniker> I installed Kodi from flatpak and it won't respond to keyboard or mouse.
[02:36] <arraybolt3> lenswipe: And you already did the "Workaround to make Cheese useable by disable v4l2 in pipewire" thing?
[02:37] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, I think so, but honestly I don't care about cheese all that much
[02:37] <arraybolt3> Just check and make sure that line is still commented out, if things are trying to use v4l2 devices still that might be the problem.
[02:37] <lenswipe> oh this is interesting
[02:38] <lenswipe> cheese is no longer finding _any_ device
[02:38] <lenswipe> even ipu6
[02:40] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, looks like that was uncommentd
[02:40] <lenswipe> what do i restart for that to take effect?
[02:40] <lenswipe> pipewire?
[02:40] <arraybolt3> I'd reboot entirely.
[02:40] <lenswipe> k
[02:40] <lenswipe> brb
[02:41] <arraybolt3> !root | Guest8617
[02:41] <arraybolt3> Er.. ok that was the wrong factoid...
[02:41] <arraybolt3> What is the factoid for "don't use IRC on the root account?"
[02:42] <arraybolt3> !rootirc | Guest8617
[02:43] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, okay so now cheese still doesn't work, but zoom can see v4l2lo0 and v4l2l1
[02:44] <Guest8617> hello
[02:44]  * arraybolt3 throws up my hands
[02:44] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, it looks like v4l2l0 is the output of the OBS virtual camera
[02:44] <arraybolt3> lenswipe: You have the Frankencamera. Good luck, I have no clue what to do at this point.
[02:45] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, quite.
[02:45] <arraybolt3> (If someone else has any ideas, please insert them, I'm stumped.)
[02:45] <lenswipe> well thanks anyway
[02:45] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, current options on the table are "send this ****ing dell laptop back and get a thinkpad"
[02:46] <lenswipe> I've been at this for like a week now
[02:46] <lenswipe> I don't care about facial recogntion login, fingerprint scanenrs or all sorts of other bullshit dell built into this thing - i just want a decent laptop to get work done
[02:49] <MockingMoniker> Flatpak Kodi expects an X server, it seems, so without an X server, the mouse and keyboard won't work.
[02:55] <ravage> MockingMoniker: then check out the kodi kiosk snap. it comed with its own wayland server for headless/iot systems
[02:55] <ravage> https://snapcraft.io/mir-kiosk-kodi
[02:56] <ravage> check description for more information
[02:59] <lenswipe> okay, i figured out what i did yesterday
[02:59] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, I followed this: https://www.scs.stanford.edu/%7Edm/blog/hide-webcam.html
[02:59] <lenswipe> I've gone through and undone those changes, now I'm going to reboot
[02:59] <lenswipe> brb
[03:02] <lenswipe> okay
[03:02] <lenswipe> so
[03:02] <lenswipe> I now have "Dummy video device" listed in zoom...
[03:02] <lenswipe> cheese isn't much better
[03:20] <lenswipe> arraybolt3, any ideas?
[04:30] <weeb11> I used ubuntu many years ago does it still crash like it used to? I haven't used linux in a very very long time
[04:31] <arraybolt3> It's rock solid for me over here.
[04:31] <weeb11> now I use ghost spectre's custom mod of windows 11 and startall back for taskbar
[04:31] <weeb11> nice to hear
[04:31] <arraybolt3> I use various flavors of Ubuntu on all of my computers, and I have quite a few computers.
[04:31] <weeb11> how's the gpu support these days
[04:31] <arraybolt3> Quite good in my experience.
[04:32] <weeb11> does it sometimes still break or nah
[04:32] <arraybolt3> I'm using an NVIDIA 1050 Ti in one of my desktops, works perfectly.
[04:32] <arraybolt3> I've seen some people break it in the past, but it doesn't seem to just randomly break for me.
[04:32] <weeb11> hmm improved : D
[04:33] <weeb11> want's your favorite flavor?
[04:33] <arraybolt3> Depends on the power of the computer I'm using and the use case I have in mind.
[04:33] <arraybolt3> Right now I'm using Kubuntu on my primary laptop, and Lubuntu on my primary desktop.
[04:34] <weeb11> full or kde?
[04:34] <arraybolt3> I like Xubuntu too though, and have used Ubuntu Studio in the past and have it installed on one of my best friend's laptop.
[04:34] <arraybolt3> weeb11: Kubuntu uses KDE if that's what you mean.
[04:34] <weeb11> ahh
[04:34] <weeb11> any fun with arch?
[04:35] <arraybolt3> ...define fun. :P
[04:35] <arraybolt3> Let's just say Arch was a painful nightmare the first time. I still have an Arch installation in a VM, but it's definitely not something I'd want to use on my primary system.
[04:35] <weeb11> true
[04:35] <weeb11> alot of custom mod on that os
[04:35] <weeb11> nice displays
[04:36] <arraybolt3> Quite customizable but you pay for that power hand over fist. At any rate, this is a fun discussion, but it would probably fit better in #ubuntu-discuss. I'd be happy to move there with you if you'd like.
[04:36] <weeb11> : D
[04:36] <weeb11> it's ok, it's 11 I'm just winding down for the night
[04:36] <weeb11> see you later it was fun /
[04:37] <arraybolt3> Thanks!
[04:37] <weeb11> : D
[04:37] <Umeaboy> Hi! Does anyone here have trouble receiving Launchpad emails to download a po file? I made a bugreport about it and it still happens.
[04:37] <arraybolt3> Umeaboy: What are you trying to do? I don't know what a po file is.
[04:38] <Umeaboy> arraybolt3: A po file contains translations for each program.
[04:38] <arraybolt3> Oh, right.
[04:38] <arraybolt3> (It sounded a bit familiar but now I remember.)
[04:38] <Umeaboy> Launchpad is the platform to either translate directly in the web ui or it offers to download the file.
[04:38] <Umeaboy> This hasn't been a problem before.
[04:39] <Umeaboy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1996436
[04:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1996436 in Launchpad itself "launchpad does not send any email with link to po file" [Undecided, New]
[04:39] <Umeaboy> I have mentioned it in #launchpad, but no help there.
[04:39] <arraybolt3> Hmm. You might ask in #launchpad. I use Launchpad a lot, but haven't used the translation feature before.
[04:40] <Umeaboy> Can  you try to reproduce the issue just to see if you get an email??
[04:40] <arraybolt3> Sure.
[04:41] <Umeaboy> It should arrive within 5-10 minutes.
[04:42] <arraybolt3> Umeaboy: OK, I requested the translations for the Spanish version of GNOME Software (I think), we'll see what happens.
[04:42] <Umeaboy> I haven't broken any of the guidelines so I'm fairly sure that my email is not banned/blocked.
[04:43] <arraybolt3> Did you check your spam by any chance
[04:43] <Umeaboy> Yes.
[04:43] <Umeaboy> Empty.
[04:44] <arraybolt3> I'm still waiting for any email to come through, for what it's worth.
[04:45] <Umeaboy> I use Tutanota to read my emails if that's relevant.
[04:45] <arraybolt3> I'm on GMail so that means we'll have two mail platforms checked.
[04:46] <Umeaboy> Yeah.
[04:48] <arraybolt3> Still nothing for me.
[04:51] <Umeaboy> This makes it valid for you to click "This affects me to"
[04:51] <arraybolt3> True. I'm waiting just a bit longer.
[04:51] <arraybolt3> But yeah it looks like this is indeed a bug. And I know for a fact I'm not banned or anything.
[04:52] <jeffrey_f> is it possible to move an active process to my GPU?
[04:56] <Umeaboy> jeffrey_f: I would say YES, but I don't know how to do that. I found some info on how to shift from GPU to CPU: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/591393/how-to-shift-process-from-gpu-to-cpu-usage
[04:56] <arraybolt3> Umeaboy: Yeah, I still haven't gotten an email. I'm going to say yes this is a bug and throw some support behind it.
[04:57] <jeffrey_f> @Umeaboy, I found that too.  I guess I need a bigger shovel to dig more.  Thanks
[04:59] <Umeaboy> jeffrey_f: If I were you I'd try to find support from the GPU maker here on IRC somehow.
[04:59] <Umeaboy> I don't know if it's a kernel question or something else.
[05:00] <jeffrey_f> @Umeaboy, That should be rather easy to do.  NVidia is generally active in forums and such.  Again, Thanks
[05:00] <Umeaboy> jeffrey_f: https://netsplit.de/channels/?chat=nvidia
[05:01] <Umeaboy> I don't know how up-to-date that list is though.
[05:02] <jeffrey_f> Thanks @Umeaboy
[05:04] <Umeaboy> Anytime, jeffrey_f. We're all family here even though it's not by blood. :)
[05:04] <jeffrey_f> @Umeaboy, Truth!
[05:37] <misterx8> anyone knows any good tweaks for linux performance?
[05:38] <toddc> run headless
[05:38] <misterx8> whats headless
[05:39] <toddc> no gui/screen
[05:39] <toddc> command line only
[05:40] <toddc> xubuntu is faster too
[05:40] <misterx8> lol thats besides the point
[05:40] <arraybolt3> Lubuntu is also a possible option, it's also light, like Xubuntu.
[05:40] <misterx8> nah i mean regardless of distro anything to make it run faster i already have a setup but asking around to see what more i can add
[05:41] <arraybolt3> Maybe disable the swapfile and enable RAM compression?
[05:41] <NickH> If you want a fast GUI then consider using a light weight wayland compositor
[05:41] <toddc> misterx8: I am headless only
[05:41] <misterx8> better ill send my config and you guys check it out to see what ive missed any potential setting...
[05:41] <misterx8> https://github.com/thanasxda/basic-linux-setup/blob/master/init.sh
[05:42] <misterx8> nickh ur right. im on it already. i cant wait till kde gets vulkan compositor
[05:43] <arraybolt3> misterx8: YOU DID mitigations=off???!!!??!?!??? I know that's sometimes seen as a performance enhancer, but that is a shockingly horribly terrifyingly no good very bad idea.
[05:43] <misterx8> run windows t hen lol
[05:43] <arraybolt3> Unless you don't care if the first malicious site you open is able to read everything in your system's RAM, that is.
[05:44] <misterx8> nah i dont. this setup is personal. besides the point. i get half hackbench latency with just this script. without considering mitigations
[05:44] <misterx8> check it out and tell me what i can add. i want to finish this once n for all add anything possible
[05:44] <arraybolt3> Eh, well then OK.
[05:45] <misterx8> thats why i added switches like those variables for people to edit it easily cause i run stuff my way
[05:45] <arraybolt3> Hmm, I see zram already in there.
[05:46] <misterx8> just for low spec
[05:46] <misterx8> zswap for 2gb and zram + zswap for 1 gb
[05:46] <misterx8> im not exactly a professional so i hope you mind my scripting skills lol
[05:47] <misterx8> dont mind i mean
[05:51] <arraybolt3> misterx8: Heh, I like the system-level adblocking.
[05:51] <misterx8> thanks bro
[05:52] <misterx8> its just an attempt to automate all. it was a bad script at first but my rig broke and it was easy improving performance last 2 weeks cause its barely noticable on a good system so im working at it daily lately to finish it once and for all
[05:53] <misterx8> theres so much you can do with linux and trying to see wahts worth putting in so asking around
[07:16] <kattupoochi> does https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/ is a client tool, or they provide RDP/vps in open source (free of cost)
[07:28] <alkisg> kattupoochi: it's a tool. They're not offering free servers.
[07:30] <kattupoochi> thank u alkisg:
[09:33] <kristian_> Helloo.. I have a multi os setup (ubuntu & windows) and I'd like to do a fresh install of ubuntu. I remember last time I updated ubuntu I messed up my multi os setup because it forgot that windows existed. What's the best way to tackle this?
[09:34] <oerheks> sudo fdisk -l # shows partitions, note them down so you will not make a mistake, also the installer gives an option to update/replace an existing ubuntu install,have fun!
[09:35] <alocer> Hello all! There is a script name oem-config-remaster in ubiquity package. i was wondering if its okay to use it? is anyone using it? any alternatives? Thanks.
[09:35] <kristian_> oerheks: thanks - replace is what I want. That should work then too?
[09:36] <oerheks> kristian_, sure, it is tested and proven to be working correctly
[09:36] <EriC^^> kristian_: no, there used to be a bug that replace
[09:36] <EriC^^> would overwrite the whole disk with only ubuntu, at least back in 14.04 it happened with me
[09:36] <kristian_> EriC^^: hmm that scare me a bit :D
[09:37] <oerheks> err... ages ago ?
[09:37] <oerheks> did you file a bugreport, EriC^^ ?
[09:38] <EriC^^> oerheks: i didnt even use ubuntu then or linux
[09:38] <oerheks> alocer, ' Remaster a CD with additional oem-config functionality' ,... never used it myself
[09:38] <EriC^^> kristian_: you could remove the ubuntu partitions using gparted, then when you run the installer it should show the usual 'install alongside windows' and choose that
[09:39] <alocer> oerheks, Yes, I am thinking about wether i should investigate modifying it or not, its goes back to 2011.
[09:40] <EriC^^> oerheks: seems it was put by someone anyways #1265192
[09:40] <EriC^^> !bug 1265192
[09:40] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1265192 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Install/reinstall wipes out all/other partitions" [Critical, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1265192
[09:45] <rebab> Is there a software that I can grab Google links for a specific word in a unique way?
[10:00] <mar77i> good ugt morning! hey, I was interested, is there some plan for the future of python- and python3- packages in ubuntu?
[10:00] <mar77i> like, is python3-* going to be renamed to the other once 2.x is dropped?
[10:11] <rebab> I figured out, don't answer my question.
[10:18] <oerheks> python2.7 has already been dropped, mar77i .. not installed standard anymore
[10:18] <oerheks> !python
[10:23] <Unit193> ...Huh, I thought it was sorta dropped from the archive, but seems not.  Now that I looked at that, I do remember it lingering...
[10:25] <oerheks> it is installable, but we do recommend updating scripts/apps to 3.x
[10:55] <mar77i> oerheks: that... I knew already. thanks for attempting, anyway :)
[11:25] <Vuurdraak> -hi everybody, i am about to remove a Geforce GPU and install a Radeon RX 6600, I just read in a forum post that it won't automaticly work properly with the 5.4 kernel, and somebody said it was fixed by using a 5.13 kernel, I am wondering it's not possible to get a Radeon GPU working by installing drivers like with the Geforce card, the kernel must support the AMD GPU ?
[11:26] <oerheks> Vuurdraak, what ubuntu version?
[11:26] <Vuurdraak> 18.04 LTS
[11:26] <oerheks> for focal, install hwe to get 5.15 ..
[11:26] <Vuurdraak> - only a kernel switch can avoid tany problems ?
[11:26] <Vuurdraak> any*
[11:27] <oerheks> oh, Radeon RX 6600, that came out after 2018 ?
[11:27] <oerheks> i would upgrade, to at least 22.04 LTS
[11:28] <Vuurdraak> - i got 22.04 as a second OS, but I also want to get it working on 18.04 as I got a lot of legacy stuff still running there
[11:29] <oerheks> you would try to install hwe on 18.04, that is supported ( for one year)
[11:29] <Vuurdraak> - seems official launch date was 2021 13 oktober
[11:29] <oerheks> !hwe
[11:29] <Vuurdraak> - oke  thanks, i guess I will install the HWE kernel later
[11:31] <Vuurdraak> - oww it's even just one bash line :)
[11:32] <Vuurdraak> - oww this is already the HWE kernel line
[11:32] <oerheks> :-(
[11:33] <oerheks> setup a VM with KVM in 22.04, to run that old software?
[11:33] <Vuurdraak> it's because of what i red here in a forum post "This was my issue. I was using kernel 5.4.0-91 and my new Radeon RX 6600 would boot to a black screen. I could get a terminal, but no desktop environment. After switching to kernel 5.13.0-22-generic, I'm flying. Thanks!"
[11:34] <Vuurdraak> - and I am now on 5.4
[11:34] <Vuurdraak> in 18.04
[11:35] <Vuurdraak> - i guess i have to be carefull, with just replacing the hardware, if I want to get stuff out of 18.04
[11:36] <Vuurdraak> - which kernel is Ubuntu 20.04 on ?
[11:37] <Vuurdraak> i mean I good do a upgrade of 18.04 to 20.4 if that fixes some stufff
[11:38] <Vuurdraak> 5.15 apperently
[11:40] <oerheks> indeed
[12:13] <mazzle> hi there. I'm trying to set up clonezilla server using the DRBL server packages and I keep failing when it tries to find my nameservers in resolv.conf. I can't directly edit that file due to ubuntu. Is there some way to trcik third party apps into reading it without messing up the resolver setup?
[12:22] <Chrissy> Hi!  In the past (ie. before 22.04.1) I was able to plug my Arduino (MKR1310) via USB and I could reach it via /dev/ttyUSB0.  This does not work anymore and I don't even see any reaction in any log, when I plug it in...
[12:23] <Chrissy> (The device still works fine under windows 10 (with the same cable on the exact same machine))
[12:25] <oerheks> Chrissy, it is caused by the brltty daemon .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1408192/can-not-connect-arduino-ide-with-arduino-board-on-ubuntu-22-04
[12:25] <oerheks> with fix
[12:25] <oerheks> stop, disable, mask that service
[12:25] <ogra> unless you are blind and rely on it ...
[12:27] <Chrissy> Still no change. I'll reboot my machine
[12:31] <Chrissy> Still no luck. brltty removed. Machine rebooted. tail -f /var/log/kern.log shows nothing when I put that Arduino in...
[12:52] <ogra> did you disable anything in your BIOS ? there is really no reason why the kernel would not show/see the plug even if there is no physical problem
[12:53] <ogra> *event
[12:55] <oerheks> maybe an usb2/usb3 issue? usb3 = blue
[12:57] <ogra> yeah, that would be such a BIOS setting ... (legacy USB support on USB3)
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> or bad usb cable?
[13:04] <gebbione> is it possible to get cifs-utils 6.14 in bionic (ubuntu 18)? at the moment i get cifs-utils/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 2:6.8-1ubuntu1.2 amd64
[13:05] <Chrissy> The strange thing is : It works on the same device with the same cable just when I boot Windows.  (And it worked before the update to 22.04)
[13:06] <oerheks> gebbione, no, upgrade to 22.04 ?
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:11] <ELFrederich> Does gnome itself run as a snap package?  When I do "sudo snap list" I see gnome listed there.
[14:38] <oerheks> ELFrederich, one part is..
[14:46] <ELFrederich> oerheks, ?
[14:47] <ELFrederich> I'm just wondering if theses are leftover from when I had some snap packages installed.
[14:47] <ELFrederich> https://bpa.st/OSQA
[15:10] <robertparkerx> I used curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_13.x | sudo bash - to install node 13 but it installed node 10
[15:10] <robertparkerx> how do I remove this?
[15:41] <co0n> Hi, I am having trouble using my Dockerfile with Ubuntu Jammy. While installing Python packages using pip, and using the `--prefix` attribute to install somewhere else, jammy produces a `./local` subdirectory where focal does not, see: https://paste.debian.net/1260680/ Also, packages are installed into dist-packages with jammy, they were installed to site-packages with focal.
[15:41] <robertparkerx> I have node 10 installed from apt get install nodejs npm but I need version 13 of node
[15:41] <robertparkerx> how do I install it
[15:42] <co0n> robertparkerx, nodejs provides upstream repositories you can use
[15:42] <ogra> robertparkerx, see "snap info node" ... pick the channel for the 13 stable version
[15:42] <ogra> (see "snap help install" for how to give a channel to the install command, node works with cannicl to provide all their versions as snaps)
[15:43] <robertparkerx> ogra how do I do that?
[15:43] <ogra> *canonical
[15:43] <co0n> robertparkerx, the official install instructions are here: https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
[15:44] <ogra> robertparkerx, moszt likely like: "snap install --channel=13/stable node" ...
[15:45] <ogra> ah, needs also --classic ... so: ""snap install --channel=13/stable node --classic"
[15:45] <ogra> (BTW: any reason why you ned such an old version ? )
[15:45] <robertparkerx> ogra I installed it but node --version still says 10
[15:46] <ogra> robertparkerx, remove the version you installed through the curl hackery
[15:46] <robertparkerx> ogra how do I do that?
[15:47] <ogra> (and *never ever* do such a thing again ... piping random curl scripts from the wenb into sud bash can easily turn your machine into a botnet client)
[15:47] <ogra> robertparkerx, read the script you downloaded and reverse each single step it did
[15:47] <ogra> i.e. go backwards through that script
[15:48] <robertparkerx> I did curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_13.x | sudo bash -
[15:49] <ogra> right
[15:49] <robertparkerx> how do I remove that?
[15:49] <co0n> robertparkerx, `snap run node --version` already works with the correct version, doesn't it?
[15:49] <ogra> so look at that script
[15:49] <co0n> omg, I read this script years ago to be able to reverse-engineer their repo entries :P Now I remember
[15:49] <robertparkerx> ogra I don't understand
[15:50] <co0n> robertparkerx, there is a shell script at the url you provided, it did set-up nodejs and the relevant repos for you.
[15:50] <ogra> robertparkerx, well, you gave some randowm script you downloaded with curl to the "sudo bach" command to execturte it as root on your machne
[15:50] <ogra> yu need to read that script, understand what it did and do each of the steps backwards
[15:52] <ogra> robertparkerx, and the next ime you see durl and "sudo bash" in any install instructions, better run away screaming ... or write an angry email to the people that provide such super-dangerous instructiona
[15:52] <ogra> *curl
[15:52] <robertparkerx> ogra can you please help
[15:52] <robertparkerx> I don't know what I'm doing
[15:53] <ogra> just open https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_13.x in your browser to read the script
[15:53] <robertparkerx> I don't know what to look for
[15:53] <co0n> ogra, I think he really can't read shell scripts
[15:54] <ogra> hmm
[15:54]  * ogra looks 
[15:54] <co0n> robertparkerx, do you know what you executed?
[15:54] <ogra> ARGH !
[15:54] <robertparkerx> No
[15:54] <ogra> this is horrid !
[15:55] <co0n> robertparkerx, what does the command `sudo dpkg -s nodejs` say?
[15:55] <co0n> robertparkerx, we are looking for the installed version
[15:56] <robertparkerx> https://i.imgur.com/r8YNTFl.png
[15:56] <co0n> robertparkerx, that's the same version as reported by `node --version`, right?
[15:56] <robertparkerx> yes
[15:57] <ogra> sudo apt purge nodejs
[15:57] <ogra> start with that command
[15:57] <co0n> ogra, wait
[15:57] <co0n> Let's remove the source first
[15:57] <ogra> i'D have done that next, but yeah, feel free to take the lead here
[15:57] <co0n> robertparkerx, do you see a file named something with node in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:58] <co0n> robertparkerx, `ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d`
[15:58] <ogra> it seems to hack the sources.list file directly instead of adding a sources.list.d snippet ... oh what a mess 😕
[15:58] <co0n> fml
[15:58] <robertparkerx> co0n https://i.imgur.com/cnksBRg.png
[15:59] <co0n> robertparkerx, please run `grep node /etc/apt/sources.list`
[15:59] <robertparkerx> co0n nothing
[16:00] <co0n> robertparkerx, can you inspect that file and see what node might have added in there?
[16:00] <co0n> robertparkerx, or feel free to share it, I don't know what secrets you have hidden there...
[16:00] <ogra> looking at the script there shoudl be a line with "nodesource" in it somewhere
[16:01] <robertparkerx> ls /etc/apt/sources-list shows /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:01] <co0n> robertparkerx, yeah, you want to open that file
[16:02] <co0n> robertparkerx, use `cat <file>` to just see it.
[16:03] <robertparkerx> co0n https://kopy.io/bKzgV
[16:05] <co0n> robertparkerx, what does `apt-cache policy nodejs` say?
[16:05] <robertparkerx> co0n https://i.imgur.com/Exb1S7X.png
[16:06] <co0n> robertparkerx, you did not successfully execute the script ogra was afraid about, it seems
[16:06] <ogra> yea
[16:06] <ogra> looks like you got nodejs from some archive mirror instead and the script did not run at all
[16:07] <ogra> (which is actually good)
[16:07] <robertparkerx> How do I install the proper node version?
[16:07] <co0n> robertparkerx, still, `apt remove --purge nodejs`, please, to remove the pacakage installed via APT. Afterwards, we'll try to get your snap to work like it should.
[16:07] <ogra> so just remove the package with "sudo apt purge nodejs"
[16:08] <robertparkerx> co0n done that
[16:08] <ogra> what does "node --version" say now ?
[16:08] <robertparkerx> no such file or directory
[16:08] <co0n> robertparkerx, what does `snap run node --version` say
[16:09] <ogra> hmm, interesting
[16:09] <robertparkerx> co0n it has the version
[16:09]  * ogra wonders why it is not in PATH ... it shoudl be)
[16:09] <co0n> Maybe it detected another install and was graceful?
[16:09] <ogra> nah, snaps are greedy 🙂
[16:10]  * alkisg sees ogra talking about nodejs and wonders if he woke up in another universe...
[16:10] <ogra> on all official Ubuntu installs since 16.04 /snap/bin is in PATH
[16:10] <co0n> robertparkerx, what does `echo $PATH` return for you?
[16:11] <ogra> if it is not you can indeed add it to /etc/environment, but something is not correct with that install (though it looks ike some cloud image, perhaps the cloud provider mangled it or so)
[16:11] <robertparkerx> ./usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
[16:11] <ogra> alkisg, i have done a lot of nodejs stuff in my life 🙂 nothing to brag about in public though 🙂
[16:12] <co0n> robertparkerx, can you `ls /snip/bin` for us, or check if `node` is in there?
[16:12] <co0n> robertparkerx, /snap/bin
[16:12] <alkisg> :D
[16:12] <robertparkerx> node is in there co0n
[16:12] <ogra> i wonder if anyhing could cache the old location ?
[16:13] <ogra> robertparkerx, try logging out and back in and see if it is then found
[16:13] <co0n> robertparkerx, soo, `/snap/bin/node --version` gives you the version, but `node --version` does not?
[16:13] <robertparkerx> now it's found
[16:13] <robertparkerx> it logged back in
[16:13] <robertparkerx> node --version returns correct version
[16:13] <ogra> perfect
[16:14]  * ogra blames systemd-logind or some such thing 
[16:14] <co0n> robertparkerx, try to remember to not just download and execute some script because installation instructions tell you. If you don't understand what the script is about, don't run it.
[16:16] <Guest34> hello, after reporting a bug in launchpad against "linux (ubuntu)" i now want to make state more precisly that it concerns "linux (Ubuntu Kinetic)". Is there a way to to link kinetic? "Also affects distribution/package" and "Also affects project" only offer some generic "Ubuntu" and no way to choose kinetic.
[16:18] <co0n> Guest34, this bug is filed against Linux Kinetic, does that help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/kinetic/+source/linux/+bug/1965882
[16:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1965882 in linux (Ubuntu Kinetic) "[nouveau] External monitor plugged into (secondary) Nvidia GPU is all white (plus a little flicker)" [High, Incomplete]
[16:19] <Guest34> to be more precise 1994126 there is no way to link it to some release.
[16:20] <ogra> bug 1994126
[16:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1994126 in linux (Ubuntu) "NULL pointer dereference in power_supply_get_property" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1994126
[16:21] <ogra> Guest34, i added a kinetic task, bt it is up to the kernel team to approve that as confirmed etc
[16:22] <ogra> better try asking in #ubuntu-kernel about kernel bugs ...
[16:23] <Guest34> thanks ogra, was there a way to do it for my own or is it just some special privilege you have unlocked within launchpad?
[16:23] <co0n> Might someone look at the rather weird pip install log I posted at ~ 15:40 UTC, 45 minutes ago.
[16:24] <co0n> I'm rather confused about the different layout generated by pip install --prefix in focal and jammy.
[16:24] <jhutchins> co0n: What problem are you trying to solve?
[16:25] <ogra> Guest34, i'm in the ubuntu-bugs team, that gives a few extra options (there is a "target to series" option, not sure if you can see that)
[16:25] <co0n> jhutchins, jammy generates an additional ./local directory and puts installed files in dist-packages
[16:25] <jhutchins> co0n: This is a python package you're trying to install?
[16:25] <co0n> jhutchins, focal installs directly into --prefix and puts installed files in site-packages
[16:26] <co0n> jhutchins, this is an excerpt from a dockerfile where package up some dependencies and some self-built modules.
[16:26] <Guest34> nope only "also affects project" and "Also affects distribution/package". thx anyways
[16:26] <co0n> jhutchins, But it falls apart with jammy or Python 3.10, it seems
[16:26] <co0n> jhutchins, works fine with focal and debian bullseye
[16:27] <jhutchins> co0n: If you don't get much python response here, there's always #python, although they'll just probably point back at #ubuntu's packaging.
[16:27] <ash_worksi> am I the only person who has programs randomly bleeding behind the dock?
[16:28] <ash_worksi> on 22.04
[16:28] <jhutchins> ash_worksi: Yes.
[16:28] <ash_worksi> it just happened with telegram :\
[16:28] <co0n> jhutchins, dist-packages is a Debianism, I'm afraid to annoy upstream ;)
[16:28] <ash_worksi> jhutchins: what do you think it takes to solve this problem? reinstall 22?
[16:29] <Guest34> ash_worksi nope :p  https://www.imgpaste.net/image/KL2xEa
[16:29] <jhutchins> ash_worksi: Sorry, I don't even have any intelligent questions to ask about it.
[16:31] <jhutchins> ash_worksi: Did you have this problem with the previous release?  We presume you're running the standard gnome desktop.  What is your graphics hardware configuration?
[16:31] <ogra> ash_worksi, start with "ubuntu-bug gnome-shell" and file it to launchpad ... the desktop team will probably know if others see it and if tere is a fix/workaround
[16:44] <ash_worksi> jhutchins: re: previous release, no, I was on 20.04
[16:44] <ash_worksi> ogra: will do
[19:00] <myrti> I recently upgraded to 22.04 and ever since then I have internet connection issues. The connection drops every ~20min for 5s and reestablishes itself. It just happened and this is the line I found in dmesg: deauthenticating from dc:39:6f:e0:45:97 by local choice (Reason: 2=PREV_AUTH_NOT_VALID). Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[19:05] <ForeverNoob[m]> @jhutchins: Now it definitely seems up again! \o/
[19:05] <Guest45> launchpad.net is instable https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[20:52] <eb_> Has anyone switched from Pop!_OS to Ubuntu, or vice versa? Wondering how they compare on a daily basis. I know they're very similar
[20:53] <oerheks> this is ubuntu support, pop os uses some repos we provide, that is all.
[20:53] <arraybolt3> eb_: Booted it a couple of times for testing. Hated it, stuck with Ubuntu. :P
[20:53] <eb_> oh wow!
[20:54] <arraybolt3> But oerheks is right, Pop!_OS is significantly different from Ubuntu. It is to Ubuntu what we are to Debian.
[20:54] <arraybolt3> At least kinda, from what I know.
[20:54] <eb_> Got it. I really enjoy both. Just having trouble deciding on which to go with, I guess
[20:55] <arraybolt3> I'm sure there's advantages to both sides. I will warn you, however, Pop recently disabled phased updates in apt, a safety feature that was recently added to Ubuntu. This gets rid of a confusing message when doing an apt upgrade, but it also essentially makes it so that if we make a fumble in Ubuntu, it may immediately break a swath of Pop!_OS machines.
[20:56] <eb_> Thank you for the heads up!
[20:56] <oerheks> i like snaps.
[20:58] <arraybolt3> oerheks: +1
[21:07] <alkisg> Pop!_OS mentions ubuntu in /etc/apt/sources.list; Ubuntu doesn't mention debian there. That's a major difference, recompiling all the packages from scratch and hosting them...
[21:13] <dillon> is anyone here?
[21:14] <MonoL> In the sound settings there's a balance slider, but what exactly does it do?
[21:14] <dillon> can anyone tell me how to remove a ppa?  I think I broke updates
[21:16] <ravage> dillon: https://itsfoss.com/ppa-purge/
[21:19] <dillon> tried it twice and got error: :sudo ppa-purge ppa: nilarimogard/webupd8
[21:19] <dillon> Updating packages lists
[21:19] <dillon> E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu kinetic Release' does not have a Release file.
[21:19] <dillon> Warning:  apt-get update failed for some reason
[21:19] <dillon> :
[21:20] <ravage> but then you did not actually install anything from that PPA yet? or did you do an upgrade of Ubuntu before?
[22:57] <runelind> I am running ubuntu 20.04 and whenever I run apt upgrade, snapd gets stuck at upgrading at 45% - I'm not using snap currently, but I can't remove it using snap for the same reason.
[22:58] <runelind> dpkg-reconfigure -a causes the same hang.
[23:11] <Sven_vB> is there a way to watch Twitch on a Ubuntu focal netbook that is too weak for a browser? until recently, streamlink with VLC worked nicely, but no longer, due to a bug in focal's ancient version of python3-urllib3.
[23:12] <Sven_vB> sorry I mean a way with just deb packages, maybe PPAs. i.e. not pip nor AppImage.
[23:33] <Sven_vB> back again :)
[23:34] <Sven_vB> seems the official logs haven't caught up yet. did someone comment on my question while I was offline?