[00:00] <keithzg[m]> `ip addr` reports my ethernet adapter has no IP address. Restarting the `networking` service does nothing, however restarting `NetworkManager` seems to address it (pun semi-intended)
[00:06] <keithzg[m]> Alas not even the only problems so I just gotta act like a Windows user and reboot this computer, since I have work to do...
[00:09] <mmikowski> keithzg[m]: Are you seeing anything strange in syslog (grep 'NetworkManager' /var/syslog |grep -i error)?
[00:40] <keithzg> mmikowski: grepping for error returned nothing at all. Just looking at all all lines including NetworkManager in /var/log/syslog.1 (since I've rebooted since) I see a lot like the following, stopping at about 9AM local time, but happening repeatedly starting literal days before I last used this desktop last night, so even if they're related to the actual problem they wouldn't appear to be aligned with the actual failure itself happening.
[00:40] <keithzg> siddhartha kernel: [3920745.280507] [   1204]     0  1204    65337      107   143360      756             0 NetworkManager
[00:41] <mmikowski> keithzg[m]: Well, so much for the easy solution :P
[00:44] <keithzg> mmikowski: hehe oh it's NEVER the easy solution for me, I have terrible luck in these regards, it's what led me to be such a computer geek, always running into problems and in the course of it adding to my repertoire of solutions :D
[00:44] <mmikowski> Often times this is a kernel + firmware issue. You might try running 22.04 LTS as a live CD and see if you can recreate it.
[00:44] <mmikowski> What system do you have? Do you know the wifi card?
[00:44] <keithzg> Oh I guarantee it's not a problem on 22.04, I was on 22.04 for aaaages, only recently updated.
[00:44] <keithzg> Wifi?! Hell no
[00:44] <mmikowski> Ah, ok.
[00:44] <keithzg> Ethernet all the way bay-bee
[00:45] <keithzg> (This is a desktop PC and it's not even a meter away from my router and main switch hehe)
[00:45] <mmikowski> There are network manager alternatives, so you might consider that: https://askubuntu.com/questions/23297
[00:45] <keithzg> Eh sure, I'd rather figure out what the actual cause is though
[00:46] <keithzg> Especially if this is something that'll eventually come back to haunt me at work or such
[00:46] <mmikowski> My guess is kernel + firmware. You might rollback to the same kernel as 22.04. That would be a great way to bisect.
[00:48] <mmikowski> I'd suggest that, since its an easy test and can tell you a lot. Best of luck!
[00:50] <keithzg> Hmm certainly not the worst plan mmikowski. Any official way these days to install an LTS kernel, or should I just pull and install the packages manually from the jammy repos?
[00:51] <mmikowski> I doubt there is an LTS kernel metapackage (but then again, there could be).  Instead, I can look it up and send it along... one minute ...
[00:52] <mmikowski> FWIW, I'm running 5.17.0-1020-oem on kfocus; no issue on networking on any of our systems (it gets tested before any release).
[00:56] <mmikowski> Metapackage: apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 linux-headers-generic-hwe-22.04 linux-tools-generic-hwe-22.04
[00:56] <mmikowski> Assuming those are available.
[00:56] <keithzg> Looks like indeed they are!
[00:57] <mmikowski> If not, the current 22.04 LTS kernel version is 5.15.0.52.52...
[00:57] <mmikowski> keithzg[m]: Ah, ease-of-testing!
[00:58] <mmikowski> That should do the trick; I assume you are fine with picking the kernel from grub?
[00:58] <keithzg> Many thanks for the help mmikowski, now I guess I should probably get back to work but afterwards I'll reboot into that kernel and see what happens :)
[00:58] <keithzg> Oh yeah, been there many a time before hehe
[00:58] <mmikowski> Also, you may need to update-initramfs for that kernel (sudo update-initramfs -u -k ....)
[00:59] <mmikowski> Also dkms if you are using that.
[01:00] <keithzg> Oho good point, I actually didn't see an update-initramfs line in the apt output. Don't think I'm using DKMS for anything on this system.
[01:01] <mmikowski> I've definitely been burned before on both :)
[01:02] <mmikowski> ls /var/lib/initramfs-tools | sudo xargs -n1 /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
[01:02] <mmikowski> That should do the magic to update and dkms bits you need.
[01:03] <keithzg> I just outright get "ls: cannot access '/var/lib/initramfs-tools': No such file or directory"
[01:12] <mmikowski> keithzg[m]: let me check that ...
[01:15] <mmikowski> keithzg[m]: my guess is you don't have dkms installed. That likely provides that file.
[01:15] <keithzg> Ah, yeah that would answer it. And leave no reason to worry, win/win :)
[01:15] <mmikowski> (unfortunately, some dynamic files, especially those in var, are hard to trace)
[01:16] <mmikowski> (the reason dpkg -S doesn't find them is because they are not installed like regular files but are later created in postinstall or during runtime).
[01:16] <mmikowski> Sorry if that's too remedial, btw. I can get a bit pendantic sometimes.
[01:17] <mmikowski> So if you got initramfs done, you should be good!
[01:18] <mmikowski> kk keithzg[m], good luck. Back to work for me. Please let me know if it fixes the issue; that way, we can keep an eye out for the upcoming kernel.
[01:18] <keithzg> Hehe s'all good, clarity is worth the risk of being superfluous :)
[01:18] <keithzg> Shall do, mmikowski!
[01:18] <mmikowski> Btw, I'm running 6.0.0 here too, and no problems with networking, at least not on WiFi (just one maching currently).
[01:18] <mmikowski> that!
[01:19] <mmikowski> ^thanks!
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[10:48] <mikolaj> witam
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