[00:07] <ericus> toddc I have two profiles now under VLAN, how do I connect to one of them?
[00:09] <ericus> I only have Ethernet to choose from in the list of networks, not the vlans
[00:19] <toddc> ericus: looking for a guide but as I recall on ubuntu desktop the vlans are configured using netplan for each profile
[00:20] <toddc> ericus: you may need to test a bit I see no recent guides for vlan with 2 profiles
[00:21] <xatrix> Hi, can you advice ? how can i restart all services, which are marked as failed ? #systemctl --failed
[00:22] <leftyfb> xatrix: reboot
[00:22] <xatrix> :)))) yea, but i can't reboot it. Simply don't want to make 5 commands to restart
[00:22] <xatrix> i'm searching for a solution to restart only failed
[00:22] <ericus> toddc I'll dig into it, thanks!
[00:23] <toddc> ericus: odd that Mint network manager has vlans add into profile options https://www.sysorchestra.com/network-locations-with-multiple-vlans-on-linux-mint/
[00:23] <jhutchins> xatrix: It's probably a lot more work than just restarting them one by one.
[00:24] <xatrix> juanjoklive[m]: what if it will be 15 ?
[00:24] <leftyfb> if there's that many failed services, you've got bigger problems. Reboot
[00:25] <jhutchins> xatrix: Besides, you should probably figure out why things are failing.
[00:25] <jhutchins> xatrix: It sounds like something critical isn't working, and the rest of them can't start without it.
[00:25] <xatrix> i've changed a hostname, and seems like it depends on. so i'd like to restart em in one command
[00:26] <leftyfb> if you changed your hostname, reboot
[00:26] <xatrix> i can't :) no downtime is possible as for now :)
[00:26] <leftyfb> especially if it's DHCP and you care about it's hostname from the rest of the network
[00:26] <leftyfb> you have 15 services that are down and it's not currently in downtime?
[00:27] <leftyfb> a reboot would have been done by now
[00:27] <xatrix> ok. got it :) let's do it finally
[00:28] <ericus> toddc wish there was something like that in ubuntu
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> so, I have a small raspberry pi with a temperature sensor
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> I'd like to set up a small webpage that will display the current temp
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> what's the simplest way to do this?
[00:28] <bumblefuzz> apache?
[00:29] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for software recommendations.   # nginx or even python would be better for such a small task
[00:31] <jhutchins> bumblefuzz: On the other hand, there's a huge amount of information and support for just about anything you care to do with Apache.
[00:32] <leftyfb> apache would be complete overkill for displaying less than 5 characters
[00:32] <leftyfb> either way, software recommendations aren't really support
[00:35] <tomreyn> xatrix: totally the right decision to reboot. if you wanted to restart multiple failed services: sudo systemctl --state failed --type service --no-legend | awk '{print $1}' | xargs echo systemctl restart
[00:35] <tomreyn> (this only prints the command you'd need to run)
[00:37] <xatrix> tomreyn: my appreciate...
[00:40] <leftyfb> tomreyn: that doesn't quite work for me
[00:41] <xatrix> xargs echo systemctl restart -> xargs sudo systemctl restart
[00:41] <xatrix> and it works
[00:42] <tomreyn> leftyfb: maybe you have none failed. you can test with "--state running"
[00:42] <leftyfb> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/6iql
[00:43] <leftyfb> see the problem?
[00:43] <tomreyn> try adding --plain, does that remove the ● ?
[00:43] <leftyfb> yep
[00:43] <leftyfb> that would fix it
[00:44] <leftyfb> I question if it caught all of the 15 services for that person
[00:44] <tomreyn> hopefully there weren't 15 after reboot
[00:45] <leftyfb> I doubt they rebooted
[00:57] <Guest2447> hello guys
[01:08] <Guest2447> i have rst intel mode on but i wanna do dual boot with windows you guys have any solutiotn
[01:10] <leftyfb> Guest2447: https://help.ubuntu.com/rst/
[01:10] <leftyfb> good luck with that
[01:17] <Kenrin> I love that page it's pretty much "Either it works or doesn't and you disable it"
[01:18] <leftyfb> if you ask me, just get a proper SSD and forget about RST
[01:51] <LordDragon> is 22.10 considering the bleeding edge version?
[01:52] <LordDragon> aka, the most likely to have breakage on apps that arent updated frequently by the devs?
[01:52] <toddc> LordDragon: sort of  testing short term support    22.04 LTS is recommended for most users
[01:53] <LordDragon> i see why now :)
[01:54] <LordDragon> i just assumed the LTS was more about servers/professionals etc and not so much as big a deal for every-day desktop needs
[01:55] <LordDragon> well, no way to downgrade now lol. so i guess 22.10 it is
[01:55] <toddc> LTS long term support --- better tested stable both desktop and server
[01:55]  * LordDragon nods
[01:56] <LordDragon> as i am more comfy with linuxy ways i wanted to try a native debian install and build up my own distro but mannnn I missed the luxurious of that ubuntu base goodness :)
[01:57] <LordDragon> i was having weird issues with my 22.04.1 though and thought the best way to resolve it was to upgrade to 22.10. it DID fix those issues. but now certain 3rd party apps arent happy. heh
[01:57] <toddc> I did the distro hop a logn time ago and ended up back here
[01:58] <LordDragon> toddc: it really is a great balance between features that make things more comfortable but also being pretty efficient in terms of process count
[01:58] <LordDragon> toddc: nice name btw. same here :D
[03:48] <sukhman> hello guys i'm trying to dual boot with windows 11 but windows 11 does not work with AHCI and if I try to disable that option ubunt doesn't work then
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | sukhman
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | sukhman see also
[03:49] <sukhman> lotuspsychje i tried to follow that but i still geting error
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> sukhman: maybe pastebin the error you having in the channel, so volunteers can think along with you
[03:55] <sukhman> i can't access any pastebin without any operating system
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> sukhman: ok, so describe take over your error manualy, mention your ubuntu release, the more info you provide to the channel, the better volunteers can help
[03:58] <sukhman> lotuspsychje right now i have no operating system installed on my pc but for ubuntu version it is just the the latest release ubutnu have right now
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> sukhman: 22.04 or 22.10? and at wich point do you get an error saying what exaclty?
[04:00] <sukhman> it's 22.04
[04:02] <sukhman> just before i tri to select my partition it says' to turn off my rts mode but when i do that neither windows nor ubuntu boots up
[04:04] <sukhman> simply, how can i make my windows and ubuntu work on ASHI modhe
[04:04] <sukhman> mode*
[04:07] <arraybolt3> sukhman: What is ASHI mode?
[04:07] <arraybolt3> ASCII?
[04:08] <arraybolt3> Oh, wait, I see. Intel RST. Lemme find the page on how to work around that problem.
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> think he means AHCI arraybolt3
[04:10] <sukhman> I'm sorry guys i mistyped that
[04:11] <arraybolt3> sukhman: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-installation-on-computers-with-intel-r-rst-enabled/15347
[04:17] <ravage> Windows and Ubuntu are both perfectly able to use AHCI. It is the standard way to communicate with your storage controller
[04:18] <ravage> If it doesn't work on your windows installation check for a driver for your motherboard
[04:18] <ravage> If you don't have a working operation system installed disable RST before you install anything
[04:23] <arraybolt3> ravage: I think he has working Windows on RST and is trying to disable RST without wrecking Windows so he can install Ubuntu alongside.
[04:23] <ravage> so the problem isnt Ubuntu. Good luck :D
[04:24] <arraybolt3> Well the problem is directly caused because he's trying to use Ubuntu, so it's kind of Ubuntu. The link I shared has instructions on how to wrangle the Windows side of things.
[04:24] <ravage> 5:30 is too early for kind of Ubuntu for me
[04:24] <ravage> i need a coffee
[05:08] <lord_daemon> does anyone know streaming software like vlc but that records only when motion is detected?
[05:08] <pizzadelivery> iSpy
[05:09] <pizzadelivery> https://www.ispyconnect.com/
[05:34] <mister_m> Hi - I've previously installed a program with apt, but I uninstalled it and built a newer version from source. I see a duplicate icon in the activities screen search results. How do I remove the duplicate I no longer want? Does that mean I didn't actually uninstall it with apt remove?
[05:35] <mister_m> looks like the package didn't get removed I must have typed the name wrong
[05:52] <arraybolt3> How do I do a manual fsck run if a hard reboot ends up requiring it? My mom's laptop it booting to a busybox prompt, and if I try to boot it by mounting /dev/sda1 to /root, I see an e2fsck failure with an error code of 8. Then Ubuntu proceeds to boot properly. I figure I shouldn't ignore this.
[05:53] <arraybolt3> (I've never used fsck before :P)
[05:55] <ravage> did you run fsck from the busybox?
[05:55] <arraybolt3> Not yet, that's what I'm asking how to do.
[05:55] <arraybolt3> I notice it looks ilke it tried to run automatically and failed.
[05:55] <ravage> fsck.ext4 -y /dev/sda1
[05:57] <arraybolt3> Looks like that did it!
[05:57] <arraybolt3> (Though I chickened out and didn't use the -y since I remembered I think that meant "yes to all", and then ended up answering Y myself to everything :P)
[05:58] <ravage> 👍
[05:58] <ravage> i always hit y anyway
[05:59] <arraybolt3> Nice, now it's booting straight to a GUI and not to Busybox. Yay!
[05:59] <arraybolt3> Thank you!
[06:41] <arun> ji
[06:51] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i have booted live ubuntu on my laptop, i need to run a program that needs to be installed first, its sysbench, doing sudo apt-get install sysbench fails
[06:52] <silv3r_m00n> how can i install a few small packages in live mode and use them
[06:53] <alkisg> silv3r_m00n: what's the failure message? Put the whole terminal output to pastebin
[06:53] <silv3r_m00n> "E: Unable to locate package sysbench"
[06:54] <silv3r_m00n> i tried doing sudo apt-get update as well
[06:54] <alkisg> Try: sudo add-apt-repository universe
[06:54] <alkisg> Then update, then install
[06:54] <silv3r_m00n> let me check
[06:55] <silv3r_m00n> alkisg: thanks, it worked :)
[06:55] <alkisg> 👍️
[07:43] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, i am running sysbench memory test on multiple system, most systems have values ranging from 6000-800 MiB/s transfer speed. but one asus laptop (ddr4 a6gb ram) is reporting extremely low transfer speed of only 300 MiB/s
[07:43] <silv3r_m00n> any idea how to correct this ?
[08:07] <arraybolt3> Agh, I just missed him.
[08:07] <arraybolt3> silv3r_m00n: Ah, there you are.
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:08] <arraybolt3> silv3r_m00n: In answer to your question earlier, the problem may be that the system has 6 GB of RAM.
[08:08] <silv3r_m00n> arraybolt3 hi, sorry got dc. the asus tuf a17 has 16 gb ddr4 ram and works good
[08:08] <arraybolt3> silv3r_m00n: It's possible that your system is only using the RAM in single-channel mode, since 6 GB indicates that you have mismatched RAM sticks. Installing two matching sticks may correct the problem.
[08:09] <arraybolt3> Oh wait so the laptop in question has 16 GB?
[08:09] <silv3r_m00n> its 8G+8G , 3200 MT/s as reported by dmidecode
[08:09] <silv3r_m00n> yup
[08:09] <arraybolt3> Oh. Well then in that instance, I dunno why it's behaving slowly.
[08:09] <arraybolt3> If somehow it's stick in single-channel mode, that might explain it.
[08:10] <arraybolt3> But otherwise, I mean... I dunno, what happens if you disable the swapfile and then run the test?
[08:10] <silv3r_m00n> its live ubuntu, did not try doing that. also ram is mostly free
[08:10] <silv3r_m00n> now i am trying the same test on fedora
[08:11] <arraybolt3> Hmm, if it's live, then it's probably not a swapfile at fault then.
[08:11] <silv3r_m00n> lets see what happens
[08:11] <silv3r_m00n> WEIRD. even on Fedora the same problem
[08:11] <silv3r_m00n> transfer speed comes to around 296.37 MiB/s, whereas it should be somewhere around 7000 MiB/s
[08:11] <hiya> https://apps.gnome.org/en/app/com.belmoussaoui.Authenticator/
[08:11] <arraybolt3> It's almost certainly hardware-related then, unless somehow the hardware is having incompatibilities with the Linux kernel.
[08:12] <hiya> Is this app available on Ubuntu other than flatpak? The latest version?
[08:12] <arraybolt3> silv3r_m00n: What version of Ubuntu are you using to do this test?
[08:13] <silv3r_m00n> its all latest, 22.10
[08:13] <silv3r_m00n> and fedora also latest ... 36 or whatever
[08:13] <silv3r_m00n> downloaded isos yesterday only
[08:13] <hiya> silv3r_m00n: nope, I don't think it is
[08:13] <arraybolt3> hiya: I doubt that the latest version is available, but I see a version in the apt archives.
[08:14] <hiya> arraybolt3: the one I got on 22.10 doesn't support encrypted imports
[08:14] <hiya> :(
[08:14] <hiya> I think I need to get flatpak as well
[08:14] <hiya> is there any other app that might work?
[08:15] <arraybolt3> The one I use is Keysmith but it's very basic, and also is installed via Flatpak...
[08:15] <hiya> so basically flatpak is needed only?
[08:15] <hiya> i thought we have Snap in Ubuntu
[08:15] <arraybolt3> We do, but not all apps are put in the Snap store by the developers. It would be worth looking though, lemme see...
[08:17] <arraybolt3> I don't see gnome-authenticator or keysmith in the Snap store.
[08:17] <hiya> yes
[08:18] <hiya> I think I need to export a plain version from the app then
[08:19] <hiya> Ubuntu must use the latest version it was released in June 2022
[08:20] <arraybolt3> Not necessarily. June 2022 sounds like it was probably *after* Ubuntu 22.10's Feature Freeze, which is when we mostly stop adding new versions of stuff into the OS so that we can get things stabilized.
[08:20] <arraybolt3> Plus, if no one packages a new version of an application for Debian or Ubuntu, it doesn't make it.
[08:22] <hiya> arraybolt3: hmm i get it, which version of Virtualbox to install on 22.10? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> the one from repos?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox
[08:23] <hiya> 7.0isn't
[08:23] <arraybolt3> hiya: If you must have the latest version, I'd use the one that's closest to 22.10, that being the one for 22.04.
[08:23] <hiya> ok i see
[08:24] <arraybolt3> hiya: And while I'd usually say "use the version in the repo", since VirtualBox in Ubuntu is in the Universe archive, (which doesn't get reliable security updates), I would favor the latest version from upstream over the version in the archives in this case.
[08:25] <arraybolt3> Or use QEMU.
[08:28] <hiya> arraybolt3: ok nice
[08:38] <Diagon> I've got 22.04 installed on my laptop, but on boot I get to a blank screen (cursor in upper left).  A-C-F2 gives me a terminal.  journalctl -b is here: http://sprunge.us/w9SwA7
[08:38] <Diagon> Anyone have thoughts on what I might try to get my desktop?
[08:43] <Maltergate> Hi everyone. I came here to request some of your help. I noted that the MuseScore Snap package (available on the snap store) is outdated and contains the DEV version. I would like to contact the snap maintainer to flag this up and offer help. However, despite what is written on the snap description, it is not MuseScore dev team that maintains the
[08:43] <Maltergate> snap, it is someone else. Hence my question: is it possible to track down the owner/publisher of a snap package ? Thanks.
[08:53] <alkisg> Any idea what could cause around 10 files to have future dates, either logs or under /var?
[08:53] <alkisg> # ls -l /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[08:53] <alkisg> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 18  2320 /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: an idea for a test could be booting a previous kernel to compare
[09:23] <Diagon> This is a new install, lotuspsychje.  Would that still be something I should try?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: so you never booted on this fresh install?
[09:24] <Diagon> I've never gotten to a desktop, no.  I've worked my way through a couple of half-way boots.
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> half way?
[09:25] <Diagon> Dropped into initramfs.  Dropped into a console using C-A-F2.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> ok
[09:25] <Diagon> updated initramfs, grub
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: what kind of graphics on your system?
[09:26] <Diagon> Thinkpad T530.  Optimus (iGPU & Nvidia).
[09:26] <Diagon> I told it to install proprietary drivers during the install
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> nvidia doesnt like wayland too much yet Diagon so xorg boot for nvidia or intel on wayland
[09:26] <Diagon> Ah, I see ...
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> you could also try a !nomodeset
[09:27] <Diagon> Oh, so how to I get from the console where I'm located now, to running X instead of wayland?
[09:27] <Diagon> (Would it be the same with the nouveau drivers?)
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> wayland is now default on 22.04 Diagon
[09:27] <Diagon> !nomodeset is a kernel parameter?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset
[09:27] <Diagon> check
[09:28] <Diagon> Ok, I put that in my /etc/defaults/grub, yes?
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[09:28] <Diagon> tty
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: /etc/default/grub edit with admin then save file, and sudo update-grub and reboot
[09:30] <Diagon> Ok, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX - I'm adding !nomodeset
[09:39] <Diagon> lotuspsychje / no go.  Same stuck at black screen.  C-A-F2 into a console.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: can you check; dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> see if you got other kernels besides -53
[09:55] <Diagon> ya, I've got -43 (lotuspsychje)
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> lets try to boot that one just to see Diagon
[09:55] <Diagon> K
[09:58] <Diagon> Same ...
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: can you press F1 at your early boot, to perhaps see at wich point things get stuck?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> (to see textboot)
[10:02] <Diagon> I've got text streaming out.  Is that what you're looking for?
[10:02] <Diagon> At the end of which I've got a black screen with a cursor in the upper left
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: usualy we see cursor black screens at early boot with problems around secureboot/fastboot
[10:04] <Diagon> secureboot is off.  Not sure what fastboot is.
[10:05] <Diagon> I wasn't able to figure out what "!nomodeset" is doing.
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> you didnt type !nomodeset in your grub i hope Diagon
[10:06] <Diagon> How do I turn of wayland, since you let me know that would be a problem with this gpu
[10:06] <Diagon> I did!
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset
[10:06] <Diagon> Ah.
[10:06] <Diagon> I checked that link. Nothing there about nomodeset.
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> its in the factoid link
[10:07] <Diagon> What was ubottu on about "But 'nomodeset' already means something else!"
[10:08] <Diagon> Arch says I might need i915.modeset=0 nouveau.modeset=0 also (bottom of page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel_mode_setting )
[10:11] <Diagon> Ok.  I added all three of those, and it worked....
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> great Diagon
[10:12] <Diagon> But ... am I running wayland?
[10:12] <Diagon> Or did I just turn off KMS?
[10:31] <Diagon> lotuspsychje / thanks for your help.  If you have a moment to tell me ^^^, I'd appreciate it.  Otherwise, g'night.
[10:35] <tomreyn> Diagon: hi. is your question just "am i running wayland"?
[10:36] <Diagon> Right.  lotuspsychje was saying that nvidia wouldn't run under wayland.  then he suggested nomodeset etc., and it worked.  But that doesn't get rid of wayland, right?  So what's the story with nvidia and wayland.
[10:36] <tomreyn> if so, open a termial and type: echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[10:37] <Diagon> ah, I see.  it says x11.  Was that due to the nomodeset ...??
[10:37] <tomreyn> no, wether or not you use wayland is a choice you make at the time you're logging in. but what is available to login to may depend on what the graphics driver can handle
[10:38] <Diagon> ah.  I'm starting to grok it!  :)
[10:38] <tomreyn> !nvidia
[10:39] <tomreyn> there's now a third option, but it may be too early for this: nvidia-driver-...-open
[10:40] <tomreyn> those drivers are developed by the nvidia company and are going to be open source, which should make them much better integratable into the kernel.
[10:40] <tomreyn> but they are pretty new and the nvidia company calls them alpha quality
[10:41] <tomreyn> so right now, you probably want A or B from ubottu's list.
[10:42] <tomreyn> the later proprietary drivers as well as the nvidia-...-open ones should be compatible to wayland... to a degree.
[10:42] <tomreyn> i assume nouveau is not, but not sure there
[10:42] <tomreyn> Diagon: does this answer your questions?
[10:44] <Diagon> tomreyn - that helps.  In the past with these machines I've just used iGPU, so I'm going to have to try a few things.
[10:44] <Diagon> But I do have one more question.
[10:45] <Diagon> The mouse is very laggy on this machine now.  I assume I have to understand the GPU and its software better.  Ideas?
[10:46] <tomreyn> Diagon: doyou know which graphics driver is currently in use?
[10:47] <tomreyn> there is yet another driver, a very compatible but very limited fallback driver called "vesa", which works for most graphics cards. if you're currently using that this would explain why it's slow.
[10:47] <Diagon> Not sure.  BOIS is set on optimus, so I don't know which one it would have picked.
[10:47] <tomreyn> can you run this can post the URL that is printed:   lspci -knnd ::0300 | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:49] <Diagon> https://termbin.com/r1w2
[10:49] <Diagon> I must say that switching to a dark theme has massively improved the laggyness.
[11:06] <Diagon> tomreyn ^^^^^^^
[11:09] <Sircle> This does not works despite rubberband-cli. Any tips? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1157603/kdenlive-speed-up-the-audio-and-video-without-losing-pitch
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> Diagon: optimus hybrid cards need to be set via nvidia-prime powersaving vs performance mode
[11:10] <tomreyn> Diagon: sorry about that, i'm on the phone, bbl
[11:10] <Diagon> :thumbs-up: lotuspsychje
[11:10] <Diagon> NP tomreyn
[13:20] <squarecircle> hello. Is there a possibility to run the gnome games on a windows machine?
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> squarecircle: you can fire up an ubuntu VM on windows and play from there
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> squarecircle: a lot of games from the ubuntu repos are also provided opensource and for several Oses on the maintainers website
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> (or snaps too)
[13:29] <squarecircle> lotuspsychje: sadly, not a techie user, and running a VM is to complicated
[13:29] <granrojo> Hi, if I disable lightdm as service will I get my login option from the tty at boot? Thanks
[13:30] <squarecircle> lotuspsychje: would be easier to run Ubuntu itself, if MS Office would run
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> squarecircle: also possible, ubuntu uses libreoffice you can do compatible work with MS office, or try Ms office with wine/playonlinux
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:48] <granrojo> BluesKaj: Hey
[13:49] <BluesKaj> hey granrojo
[14:08] <granrojo> If I disable the lightdm serice will a get a TTY with the login option at boot?
[14:16] <xx> granrojo: yes
[14:19] <ogra> granrojo, you should not need to stop lightdm for this though ... crtl-alt-(f2-f7) should get you a CLI login prompt too
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> maybe granrojo wants no GUI login anymore?
[14:22] <granrojo> ogra: I want to get a tty login everythime I boot instead of the lightm login (or any greeter)
[14:24] <xx> you can uninstall lightdm then, but be careful about it being a dependency for something else
[14:24] <xx> (I currently run without lightdm and start xfce using startx instead)
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> xx: but startx is not really the way to go anymore these days?
[14:25] <leftyfb> granrojo: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-enable-gui-on-boot-in-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux-desktop
[14:26] <xx> lotuspsychje: xfce doesn't support wayland, so startx is the way
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> xx: but granrojo didnt mention his ubuntu release and flavour yet
[14:29] <xx> they are using lightdm, so it's not gonna be gnome or kde
[14:30] <xx> by process of elimination it is most likely xfce or lxde
[14:30] <leftyfb> xx: you know previous releases of ubuntu with gnome used lightdm right?
[14:30] <xx> and those previous releases did not use wayland
[14:30] <leftyfb> either way, we're arguing about a use case that was never mentioned by the OP and I've already given them the correct answer
[14:32] <granrojo> thanks leftyfb I just dont understand very well whats multi user target when I read about it
[14:33] <leftyfb> granrojo: Don't just skim it for commands you can copy and paste. Read it in full. It has explanations.
[14:34] <granrojo> leftyfb: yes but the detail I forgot to mention wsa that Im on xfce
[14:34] <leftyfb> granrojo: that shouldn't matter
[14:35] <leftyfb> granrojo: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user
[14:35] <leftyfb> granrojo: that will disable the GUI at boot
[14:37] <leftyfb> granrojo: if you're looking for how to start xfce (a question you haven't asked), run: startxfce4
[14:37] <leftyfb> all of this I found on google for you btw
[14:37] <leftyfb> https://r00t4bl3.com/post/how-to-install-xfce-desktop-in-ubuntu-22-04-lts
[14:39] <granrojo> leftyfb: Well evryghin is on google right :p
[14:40] <leftyfb> granrojo: only if you look
[14:41] <granrojo> leftyfb: and understand
[14:41] <leftyfb> granrojo: why did you install a DE on your machine if you don't want to use it? Why not just install server?
[14:42] <granrojo> leftyfb: Because I want a dektop environment
[14:43] <granrojo> leftyfb: I want to see if login without a greeter may speed up the boot process and also becuase I like the look of a tty login
[14:44] <leftyfb> granrojo: doing it in this way will not speed up your boot process
[14:45] <granrojo> leftyfb: ok thats good to know, thanks
[15:11] <MountainManTech> Hello everyone
[15:11] <MountainManTech> I am trying to export a bunch of unable to locate package messages from apt. I am doing sudo sh bash-script.sh >> log.txt. However only the first 3 lines are exported without listing any of the packages that apt is unable to locate. What am I doing wrong here?
[15:13] <leftyfb> MountainManTech: bash bash-script 2>&1 >> log.txt
[15:14] <Jeremy31> MountainManTech: apt doesn't work well with that
[15:20] <MountainManTech> Is there an alternative?
[15:21] <leftyfb> apt-get
[15:21] <jhutchins> MountainManTech: How about addressing the cause of the missing packages instead?
[15:21] <MountainManTech> That's what I am trying to figure out. I want the full list of the missing packages in a log.txt file to review and address the issue.
[15:26] <bpaster> https://bpa.st/DYIA can anyone help
[15:27] <leftyfb> bpaster: with what?
[15:27] <leftyfb> bpaster: where are you trying to run "quit" and why? What makes you think that is a valid command?
[15:28] <bpaster> i will forever live in the matrix
[15:28] <leftyfb> bpaster: trolling is offtopic here. Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:41] <polarwwf> hello
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> welcome polarwwf
[16:49] <Umeaboy> Hi! I know that this is not the channel for Ubports, but I was wondering what IRC server I might find a channel for it. I'm looking to translate it on the Weblate platform, but I can't seem to find where to go to start translating it since Swedish seems to be locked for translations and yet there is no progress made. I checked their website, but couldn't find any information about a channel on IRC.
[16:49] <Umeaboy> Should I connect to OFTC?
[16:54] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: are you referring to ubuntu on arm?
[16:55] <Umeaboy> leftyfb: If that's the old name for Ubports then yes.
[16:55] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: if so, try #ubuntu-arm
[16:55] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: ubuntu-ports is sort of a broad term to cover several categories. Maybe pick 1
[16:56] <cartdrige> Like the rasp PI version which is arm64 in fact, but with maybe few special adaptations/drivers.
[17:04] <Umeaboy> I long til there will be a Raspberry Pi with at least 16 GB of memory (physically on the board) out in public. I think I've read somewhere that it is coming, but I don't know if it's true though.
[17:06] <tomreyn> !ubports
[17:06] <Umeaboy> For instance when you build an OS today compared to 10 years ago you need at least 16 GB to manage under 1 day if it's possible even then.
[17:06] <leftyfb> !discus | Umeaboy
[17:06] <leftyfb> !discuss | Umeaboy
[17:39] <sshine> hello! I just installed alacritty, and when I click a link in my terminal to have firefox open it, I instead get a "Firefox is not responding" dialog. when I try to manually 'xdg-open https://...' or 'firefox --new-tab https://...', I get the same error. firefox is installed via snap. what could I explore to make links open?
[17:55] <greenracer> Am I missing something. Python3 was installed by default, but not pip?
[17:56] <leftyfb> greenracer: sudo apt install python3-pip
[17:56] <greenracer> leftyfb: okay, just making sure I wasn't missing something. Thanks.
[18:01] <Umeaboy> How soon will Ubiquity (The installer for Ubuntu) be updated with my new translations?
[18:02] <leftyfb> Umeaboy: contact the devs/maintainers you have been working with
[18:24] <alkisg> greenracer: python3 is necessary for ubuntu to run, while pip isn't, for most users; in many cases it's also preferred to use apt install python-xxx rather than pip install python-xxx, to avoid conflicts
[18:24] <greenracer> alkisg: thanks.
[18:25] <greenracer> Weird that Cuda isn't in apt but cuDNN is.
[18:52] <greenracer> I'm in a pickle. I've installed Ubuntu repo's cuda and latest tensorflow from pip, but those rely on me having Nvidia driver 520 installed. For some reason only 515 will work on my machine. Anyone have any idea what I should do?
[18:56] <manolis> b
[18:57] <manolis> Hello
[19:06] <jhutchins> greenracer: Upgrade the nvidia driver?  System backup first.
[19:07] <jhutchins> greenracer: It would be a little odd if the nvidia driver and the cuda package from the main official repositories were out of sync.  That might be a reportable bug if true.
[19:07] <greenracer> jhutchins: I just did. No luck. Now I've installed cuda from Nvidia and from apt and installed everything cuda or cuDNN related from apt. Now I'm thinking I need to format and start over.
[19:08] <greenracer> jhutchins: When I set up this machine, the 520 version would brick it on reboot.
[19:08] <greenracer> So I had to use 515. But now looks like the latest 520 version works.
[19:08] <greenracer> But that doesn't solve my cuda issues.
[19:09] <jhutchins> !info cuda
[19:19] <tomreyn> jhutchins: nvidia-cuda-toolkit may be the package you sought
[19:23] <pirat> РуддщHello
[19:45] <N9NU> can somone tell me what local (home acct) file controls the way Konsolel, Xterm, QTerminal,, etc. control...with respect to column spacing
[19:45] <Guest4894> U mean Terminal?
[19:45] <N9NU> can somone tell me what local (home acct) file controls the way Konsolel, Xterm, QTerminal,, etc. control...with respect to column spacingit's fine
[19:45] <Guest4894> Spacing of text, within the terminal?
[19:45] <N9NU> yeah
[19:45] <Guest4894> Check terminal settings
[19:45] <N9NU> ii ttried reset
[19:46] <N9NU> within .local or .config?
[19:48] <jhutchins> N9NU: Most text consoles don't respect colums.  Each line is independent of the previous one.
[20:04] <jpmh> I am a command line type use.  Just installed 22.04 on a new laptop - love it - I would like to be able to "map" the WINDOZE key to do other things.  Is there an easy command line way to do that?
[20:06] <N9NU> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1090646/how-to-remap-keys-in-ubuntu-18-04-gnome-shell
[20:07] <N9NU> xmodmap
[20:07] <N9NU> is your command
[20:07] <N9NU> or XbindKeys
[20:08] <N9NU> http://www.nongnu.org/xbindkeys/
[20:09] <oerheks> right windows key must be easy, left key is important.
[20:34] <delizin> Hello everyone. I'm trying to setup a new machine using Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS and GNOME 42.5. I'm doing a lot of operations that require root permission so I'm getting repeated "Authentication Required" popups. It is a huge hassle since I need to reenter my password multiple times per minute. How can I disable this popup for this session? I've tried visudo, but that only seems to affect it in terminal.
[20:35] <oerheks> sudo gives you a timespan of a few minutes
[20:36] <oerheks> if you what your terminal session to be root, start with; sudo -i
[20:37] <delizin> My terminal is good. I'm trying to get it to let me work from the Gnome interface without constant interruptions.
[20:38] <oerheks> no fix for that, sorry
[20:39] <jhutchins> delizin: One of the reasons this is not easy is because using GUI applications as root is usually a bad idea.  Unintendedn consequences can brick your system.
[20:40] <jhutchins> delizin: What kind of changes do you need to make?
[20:40] <delizin> Right now I'm going through testing a slew of new hard drives. Every test and each refresh requires me to reenter my password.
[20:41] <delizin> This is my first time using ubuntu with a GUI. Typically I just ssh and work from terminal so I was excited, but it is turning into way more of a hassle.
[20:42] <jhutchins> delizin: It seems very strange to be doing that from a GUI interface.  Wouldn't it be simpler to just use the Console tools that the GUI wrapper calls?
[20:42] <jhutchins> delizin: What tools are you using?
[20:43] <delizin> The SMART Data & Self-Tests from the "Disks" tool.
[20:44] <oerheks> multiple times per minute?
[20:45] <delizin> One to start the tool, one to start the test, and then another if I want to "refresh" to get the test results or check progress. It doesn't update automatically without refreshing.
[20:47] <delizin> Definitely seems like it will be easier to continue doing everything with the terminal instead which is disappointing to me.
[20:47] <ioria> delizin, are you fully updated ?
[20:48] <delizin> I am. This system is headless so I am connecting through xrdp if that makes a difference.
[20:49] <ioria> delizin, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:50] <delizin> Yup, all packages up to date and 0 upgraded/installed/removed
[20:50] <jhutchins> delizin: Filtering that through a GUI can interfere with any performance testing.
[20:54] <ioria> delizin, yep, i guess it makes a difference
[21:04] <greenracer> Okay, I have a brand new fresh install of 22.10. Anyone know the canonical way of installing CUDA accelerated tensorflow? I followed the google directions last time and ended up with wrong versions of everything.
[21:21] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[21:36] <MonsieurBon> I have two nfs mounts in /etc/fstab which do not get mounted on startup, but work perfectly, when I run mount -a. I already tried adding _netdev in fstab or adding a script in /etc/network/if-up.d which runs mount -a. But nothing worked. What else could I try?
[21:39] <tomreyn> MonsieurBon: your ubuntu version is? are you using non standard configurations or software which could be related?
[21:39] <leftyfb> MonsieurBon: https://sleeplessbeastie.eu/2019/09/23/how-to-mount-nfs-share-using-systemd/
[21:39] <tomreyn> have you reviewed you system logs, yet? is there a systemd unit for it?
[21:39] <greenracer> The google instructions to install tensorflow say to do this: `conda create --name tf python=3.9` But I have python 3.10 installed.
[21:42] <tomreyn> greenracer: if you'd like to file a bug report against https://www.tensorflow.org/install the right place to do so is probably https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues
[21:43] <greenracer> tomreyn: Is that a bug?
[21:43] <tomreyn> i don't know
[22:00] <greenracer> tomreyn: Ah, I see, conda is also an environment manager. That installed python 3.9
[22:01] <plt> Hello. Can someone take a look at this and tell me how I fix it please --> https://pastebin.com/SvMYgNRh
[22:01] <plt> Please?
[22:03] <leftyfb> plt: did you try doing what it told you to do?
[22:03] <oerheks> To address all issues, run: ...
[22:03] <plt> I get and I even use --force and that did not fix it
[22:04] <plt> Is there a command to check and fix any depencies issues?
[22:04] <nocny_stroz> hello, I have a problem with permissions in Ubuntu. Trying to use Watson and edit my last "frame" (https://tailordev.github.io/Watson/user-guide/commands/#edit) and get the answer: "/bin/sh: 1: sensible-editor: Permission denied
[22:05] <nocny_stroz> Error: sensible-editor: Editing failed!
[22:05] <nocny_stroz> using command "watson edit"
[22:05] <plt> What the heck?
[22:05] <plt> We need to get away from using the editors to config programs.
[22:06] <leftyfb> plt: that's what Windows is for
[22:06] <plt> That I just my feeling being a programmer for the past 35 years
[22:07] <plt> Sometimes there is a issue using text editors to config programs.
[22:07] <gry> nocny_stroz: what does 'sensible-editor ~/test' say?
[22:08] <gry> nocny_stroz: just as a quick test on a file that doesn't have permissions issues.
[22:08] <nocny_stroz> I can't use "sudo watson edit" because it's a different user
[22:08] <plt> Sometimes there is a issue using text editors to config programs.?
[22:09] <nocny_stroz> gry: it fires an editor
[22:09] <gry> nocny_stroz: ok, so that works.
[22:11] <tomreyn> nocny_stroz: sounds like "watson edit" (and therefore sensible-editor) is trying to edit a file you (your system user) does not have permission to edit
[22:11] <gry> nocny_stroz: do you know what file it is trying to edit for the watson thing?
[22:11] <plt> I am not going there. I got bigger issues to resolve please
[22:12] <gry> plt, here is a raw link to your paste without ads, https://pastebin.com/raw/SvMYgNRh
[22:13] <gry> plt, I would suggest to join #node.js channel and ask them for assistance.
[22:13] <plt> Sorry, I can help with the ads. I can post on my web site as plain text if you like?
[22:14] <gry> The link I gave is already plain text, plt, it is good to use
[22:14] <nocny_stroz> thank You, I think I will handle it :) https://tailordev.github.io/Watson/user-guide/configuration/
[22:14] <plt> How did you know the issue is just node.js issue?
[22:15] <gry> plt, looks like these dependencies are handled by npm, and npm is a part of node.js .
[22:15] <tomreyn> also https://blog.npmjs.org/post/163421115230/shutting-down-npm-irc.html
[22:15] <plt> Is all the errors js.node?
[22:16] <plt> 4 error messages
[22:17] <gry> plt, looks like it to me
[22:17] <plt> ok
[22:17] <plt> Is the other questions is the issue related to ubuntu not updating all the lib files?
[22:18] <plt> The developers not keeping all the lib files updated?
[22:18] <gry> i don't know what the issue is, i haven't used npm before, sorry
[22:19] <plt> ok
[22:19] <plt> This is giving me some hint on it watchpack  1.7.2 - 1.7.5
[22:26] <MonsieurBon_> leftyfb, thanks for the link about nfs and systemd. I had to adapt it slightly, but it works. I think at least part of the problem is that I use the hostname instead of the IP address.
[22:27] <leftyfb> No, the problem is you don’t have network fully started before trying to mount.
[22:28] <leftyfb> aaand, gone
[22:28] <MonsieurBon_> leftyfb, It did not work with the target network-online.target. I had to use nss-lookup.target. But well, it works now. Thx
[22:29] <plt> I miss the old days of the way the php developers wrote their install programs
[22:30] <plt> bbl
[22:30] <gry> plt, like these? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script#/media/File:MediaWiki_1.38.2_Config_script_2.png
[22:30] <gry> ttyl
[22:31] <plt> No, when all the files where under one directory and you just ran the /install/setup.php
[22:31] <gry> ah ok
[22:32] <plt> Scriptcase still does it
[22:32] <plt> When using scriptcase to write php application it does it that way.
[22:35] <plt> It's time for dinner.
[22:35] <tomreyn> !ot
[22:36] <gry> plt, when you're back, I've joined the offtopic channel, perhaps it will be interesting to continue there.
[22:39] <plt> Ok
[22:40] <plt> You welcome to join me in the channel #phil
[22:46] <plt> Cox.net customer. Hello
[22:47] <plt> amazoniantoad I am using the same ISP as you.
[22:47] <amazoniantoad> I've built a 40% keyboard and I need to remap some keys to key combinations. Is there a simple way to do this with ubuntu.
[22:47] <amazoniantoad> ?*
[22:47] <amazoniantoad> plt nice. I love cox.
[22:47] <plt> I never done that before amazoniantoad
[22:47] <amazoniantoad> oh
[22:48] <plt> Let me check something
[22:48] <oerheks> !keys
[22:48] <oerheks> oh, must be an old factoid
[22:48] <plt> Try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices
[22:48] <jhutchins> !xmodmap
[22:49] <plt> https://www.google.com/search?q=unubtu+remap+some+keys+to+key+combinations&sxsrf=ALiCzsatb1Z8yWmUjvT_4PUSpBJ0aj1Hyg%3A1668984493806&source=hp&ei=ra56Y8CBLv7W5NoPoIOWyAQ&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY3q8vcf_giLEAgL-P9nLU5KxBKHJ44Ix&ved=0ahUKEwiAjIvf6737AhV-K1kFHaCBBUkQ4dUDCAs&uact=5&oq=unubtu+remap+some+keys+to+key+combinations&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBwghEKABEAo6BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOggILhCDARCxAzoICAAQgAQQ
[22:49] <plt> sQM6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARDRAzoOCC4QxwEQsQMQ0QMQgAQ6CAguELEDEIMBOg4ILhCABBCxAxCDARDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOgUIABCABDoHCAAQgAQQCjoHCC4QgAQQCjoFCC4QgAQ6EwguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDEAo6CggAEIAEELEDEAo6DQgAEIAEELEDELEDEAo6BwgjELECECdQAFjBFmDmGWgAcAB4AIABYogBlgSSAQE4mAEAoAEBoAEC&sclient=gws-wiz
[22:49] <plt> https://liink
[22:49] <oerheks> please no google search urls, not really helpfull
[22:49] <plt> I will im it to you
[22:50] <oerheks> xmodmap it the tool to use, or xkeycaps
[22:50] <oerheks> !info xkeycaps
[22:51] <amazoniantoad> thanks guys
[22:51] <plt> Now it's time for me to get something to eat.
[22:51] <plt> You must be in the DC area to.
[22:51] <oerheks> no need to share this with the channel, thanks.
[22:52] <oerheks> !ot