[00:10] سلام . کسی می تونه کمک کنه ؟ [00:10] hi [00:10] I am new to here [00:11] hey HabibHashemi[m] - welcome to the ubuntu support chat [00:11] I got error when try to make bootable usb drive [00:11] Thank you [00:11] i'll have to go, but if you can describe the issue well, and have some patience (just wait a couple minutes), i bet someone else will help [00:12] Thanks [00:13] HabibHashemi[m]: some questions which can help: what ubuntu are you running? what are you trying to do, and why? what have you done so far? what was the result (and error messages)? what did you expect to happen instead? [00:14] Yeah [00:14] share output on dpaste.com (posting the final dpaste.com url here) or screenshots on imgur.com [00:15] generally, i recommend using the "balena etcher" software to create usb installer media. good luck. [00:36] I want to install ubuntu studio 22.04.1 LS on my pc.... (full message at ) [00:40] HabibHashemi[m]: try as tomreyn suggested above: "balena etcher" >> https://www.maketecheasier.com/linux-live-disks-etcher/ . [00:52]

"Habib Hashemi: try as tomreyn..." <- Yes. Thanks to you and tomreyn. Its in progress to be made [00:53] HabibHashemi[m]: \o/ [01:13] I see the same problem here [01:17] Turns off my pc In the mid of booting [01:19] I am completely new to "linux" [01:21] And I have a firm decision to migrate to Linux. I want to learn and grow. === plt is now known as plt1984 [01:30] !md5sum | HabibHashemi[m] [01:30] HabibHashemi[m]: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which a checksum is provided), see https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu [01:33] do you know a multi bay 2.5" external hdd case? [02:08] I have a two-bay 2.5" [02:08] Let's see ... [02:08] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVVC59A?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details [02:08] Without tracking: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVVC59A [02:09] squarecircle ^^^^^^^^^ [02:09] That's a nice one, but I'd really like something that could do 3 or 4 bays. [02:13] Here's another 2-bay: https://www.amazon.com/OWC-Mercury-Bus-Powered-Storage-Enclosure/dp/B01N9GDUMB [02:20] USB connection? [02:21] or networked storage most likely? [02:21] Ya, both are USB. No one has eSATA any more. [02:29] Yaa out the 1 million php developers qdpm did it right === Vercas61 is now known as Vercas6 [02:31] Diagon: thank you, sadly, I need some more slots for drives, but its a nice looking alternative [02:32] Ya, me too. I'm thinking maybe I get a second one ... [02:33] I do have a 4-port that takes both 2.5" and 3.5" drives. https://www.amazon.com/Syba-SY-ENC50104-SATA-Non-RAID-Enclosure/dp/B076ZH262B/ [02:33] That one's both USB and eSATA. [02:34] cartdrige: don't really care, I'm sitting here on a mountain of 2.5" drives and I want some external buffer, that I can feed so that my notebook main drive is not cluttered with project stuff, on which I only work, when I'm at the desk. [02:35] This one's 4-bay, but after some reading, I was suspicious of heat issues: https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Drive-Docking-Station-DS-4SSD/dp/B0711L68MS/ [02:36] Diagon: yeah, there are a lot of 3.5" options, but theyre all very big ... [02:36] I'm getting a pop up saying "run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible". Is this the OS trying to upgrade fro 18 to 20? [02:37] squarecircle, mount yourself a seedbox with them, you can stick 4 or 6 disks on the motherboard maybe then get a powered USB HUB for the other ones :) [02:39] backthen: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/362731/how-to-identify-window-by-clicking-in-wayland [02:40] cartdrige: seedbox? [02:41] seedbox are network storage boxes, they used for torrenting stuff usualy, like archive.org [02:42] matsaman: hmm not sure if the link is for me [02:44] cartdrige: yeah, I know, but thing is: I want something local, I already have some terabytes of remote storage - which is sadly not useable, with 50MBit/s Upload and only 250MBit/s down [02:44] backthen: it is [02:44] cartdrige: I was more or less hoping for a hint to a device like the Helios ARM NAS Boards, that are now out of business, sadly [02:45] matsaman: oh, the pop up is from 'Software Updater'. It asks me to 'Partial Upgrade'. I'm afraid if I click on this my OS will go from 18 to 20 [02:46] do you want to do any upgrade right now? [02:47] if not, don't run it [02:47] if so, why can't you upgrade to 22? [02:47] I want to do any program/security updates, not upgrade from 18 to 20. [02:48] Hi, how can I get locate working again? It's not producing any results for me [02:48] matsaman: I have older software that don't work beyond 18 [02:53] Roey: if it's installed, it traditionally comes with a cron job that runs updatedb daily [02:53] Roey: if it's installed but not working, that cron job might be failing [02:53] Roey: so first try running updatedb manually to see if it works at all [02:53] backthen: what're you going to do when 18 goes EOL? [02:56] matsaman: continue as usual. By then those software could be available for 20 [02:58] backthen: and you saw this?: http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+what+is+partial+upgrade [02:59] matsaman: yes, basically this picture in this post https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/partial-upgrade-message/14587/8 [03:08] Diagon: ICY BOX IB-3810U3 found this [03:09] seems a reasonable approach, pine64 sbc added for network and its rolling [03:10] hi there, i am running a simple python module called rambenchmark and this command called mbw. the ram write speed (memset) is very slow when ubuntu is running in Live Mode. any ideas why ? [03:15] squarecircle - that's 3.5" https://www.newegg.com/icy-box-hddicy3810u3/p/N82E16817551056R?Description=ICY%20BOX%20IB-3810U3&cm_re=ICY_BOX%20IB-3810U3-_-17-551-056R-_-Product&quicklink=true [03:39] well i thought i would mention some more headaches today besides the thunderbird problems and the missing gnome-desktop section in settings...there is also another problem...i tried to install screengrab but it just looks blank..no screenshot at all [03:40] i also installed gnome-screenshot and it seems to work. [03:40] could there possibly be some missing qt stuff for screengrab to wokr [03:40] work [03:42] i guess cheese and gnome-screenshot are enough...but it is really sad that some screenrecorders say they will not work with wayland..only x [03:42] gimp can create a screenshot too, but i think ubuntu has an integrated screenshot grabber when you press print-screen ? [03:43] cartdrige yes the failsafe printscreen key works ok [03:43] cartdrige but i am not sure what is missing for screengrab to work [03:44] lagunaloire: screengrab looks to be a Lubuntu package -- might run ' apt show screengrab ' and verify that all dependencies are met ? [03:44] Considering that screenshots are processed from the low-level graphics image, it's not surprising that those written for X11 won't work on Wayland. [03:44] Bashing-om..ok let me try that command [03:53] Bashing-om..ok i checked each one and all the dependencies are installed...so maybe let me try to boot into lxqt desktop and see if it works with just x and not wayland [03:53] rob0 maybe it is a wayland problem [03:54] Bashing-om or maybe on second thought because i have to disable the xorg session manager...i will just forget the app [03:56] lagunaloire: Sorry I can mot be of more help - Not used the app so not much I can know. [03:57] Bashing-om...well gnome is stuck on wayland so there is no going back i guess...so ill just forget the app...however what can be used as a screenrecorder and screencaster that is consistent with gnome on wayland [03:57] I wonder if they did they choose the name 'wayland' so that it makes 'mother' happy in the Alien movies? :P the text mode terminal. [03:58] Wayland-Yutani for alien fan nerds. [03:58] cartdrige...well its just a lousy compositor and there were many before it...long ago...but these days all the gnome people want to do is move everything to the wayland compositor [03:59] lagunaloire: No experience there at all as I run xfce; that does not support Wayland to this time. [03:59] Bashing-om..yes i know...xfce has always worked very well...but the gnome people are moving on with wayland [04:00] lagunaloire: Yes indeedy - and that is a good thing :D [04:01] Bashing-om...well ok so now my question is what screenrecorder for videos/with/audio and screencaster are consistent with gnome on wayland [04:02] Bashing-om so people can see our videos of playing 3d games on linux and watch each battle tactics and interactions with the characters [04:02] Bashing-om so i am wondering what is the wayland solution for this stuff [04:03] lagunaloire: When I have nothing to say - best that I say nothing. [04:04] squarecircle - here's a raspberry pi NAS for 2 drives. https://www.amazon.com/Geekworm-Raspberry-Storage-Expansion-Compatible/dp/B07VXF2HJG/ [04:05] Bashing-om...well long ago i used to play 2d games on linux...when they first became available...and i used a screenrecorder that outputted everything to ogg movies with audio...so then i had to transcode it to more familiar mpeg4 so most people could see it ...those without theora support [04:06] Bashing-om but that was before the wayland fad..came along...so now i am wondering how to maintain functionality with the wayland emphasis of gnome [04:08] Bashing-om and it was before 3d became a fad...so now to maintain the same function...i need to find a screenrecorder that is consistent with gnome on wayland [04:09] Bashing-om because most gamers like to see solutions in action for difficult parts of certain games to make it easier for them to win [04:12] Bashing-om so most of us trade screenrecordings of games in action...because each one of us does not have the time to solve all the strategic issues of all the games so we each focus on a few and get answers for others [04:14] Roey: so first try running updatedb manually to see if it works at all [04:14] that just returns instantly without producing any output [04:14] Bashing-om an example of what can no longer be used is simplescreenrecorder that doesn't like wayland [04:14] lagunaloire: While I can appreciate the efforts - You are away from my experience range; I am unable to offer any direct guidance. [04:15] Bashing-om...well it is sad that not even simplescreenrecorder is consistent with wayland...so i am sure there are others but i don't know what the gnome people use [04:23] Roey, updatedb would not normally produce output. But generally it should run awhile: indexing the whole filesystem. Returning immediately could happen on a small and/or very fast filesystem. [04:25] well i have been working on gaming issues since the trs80 model 1 starting in 1978 so about 44 years now...and i hope critical functions like screenrecorders and screencasters are not going the way of the dodo birds just because gnome likes wayland [04:25] rob0: yeah, so here it doesn't take a while [04:25] i don't think it's doing anything [04:26] you're running this as root (or with sudo)? [04:26] gaming is and always has been very serious business for more than 44 years now...and i hate losing some functionality without alternative solutions for gnome [04:26] rob0: correct [04:26] sudo updatedb [04:26] If you have a spinning rust hard drive, updatedb should cause some activity. [04:26] rob0: ssd here [04:27] Roey no sudo updatedb is great for the locate whatever command [04:27] then it could have completed quickly [04:27] Roey for when you want to see where in the craziest places some distros are putting various libs and stuff [04:28] heh [04:28] so, [04:28] I ran sudo strace updatedb [04:28] try "locate some-file" where you know there is a file with that name that you'd have the right to see [04:28] it gave some output [04:28] er [04:28] locate does not give any output [04:28] that's why I ran updatedb [04:28] yep, strace shows what it did [04:28] which gives no output either [04:29] is this a default Ubuntu? what version? [04:29] Roey yes it does use sudo locate somefile to check all your root possibilites [04:29] sudo strace updatedb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MhP8YnfHwp/ [04:30] rob0: kubuntu 22.10 [04:30] Roey try installing mlocate that i know works for a long time now [04:30] Roey try sudo apt install mlocate [04:31] sudo strace locate passwd: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h5bck5Pb4S/ [04:31] Roey and then just use the locate command after updatedb [04:31] "mlocate is already the newest version (1.1.16-1ubuntu1). [04:31] " [04:31] should i try install --reinstall? [04:31] Roey..ok that one is known to work without any problems [04:32] ok [04:32] Roey...try sudo updatedb...and then sudo locate firefox [04:32] this has been as of the past.. month? something like that?> that it does not work [04:32] yeah both commands return instantly and produce no output [04:32] still [04:32] Roey...sudo locate firefox doesn't produce anything [04:33] Roey what about sudo locate gcc [04:34] lagunaloire: As a thought - If you have that strong of an interest, burn a Lubuntu .ISO - see if screengrab is a default install. If it is run ' cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/screengrab.list ' and see what Lubuntu installs to support the app. [04:35] Bashing-om ..ok i will ...where is a lubuntu live dvd i can burn and boot up in [04:35] that has screengrab already in the iso [04:36] Roey...did sudo locate gcc return anything [04:36] lagunaloire: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ . [04:38] Bashing-om ok i see a kinetic something i am getting it now to burn it [04:38] Roey...did sudo locate gcc return anything <- correct. [04:39] Roey...did it return anything for you [04:39] nope [04:39] nothign. [04:39] Roey you should see about a page of listings by rows on that one [04:40] lke I said it produces no output whatsoever. [04:40] I did run strace on it [04:40] that produced output, which I posted above [04:40] sudo strace updatedb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MhP8YnfHwp/ [04:40] sudo strace locate passwd: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h5bck5Pb4S/ [04:40] snap list? [04:41] toddc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kbv3sTK5gf/ [04:42] Roey hmmm.maybe you have a problem with sudo not being set up correctly...try su command to go to root priveledges...and then just type locate gcc [04:42] I did sudo sh, then ran updatedb and locate passwd. Same behavior. [04:43] Roey well just try su command to go to root [04:43] Roey and then try just locate gcc [04:43] it doesn't accept my pw [04:43] su by itself. [04:44] Roey..oh...ok try sudo passwd root [04:44] then type newpasswd twice [04:44] ok, same behavior as before. [04:44] (after su'ing to root and running updatedb and then locate gcc) [04:45] Roey..well sounds to me like you don't have the right passwords...get a boot cd and fix that first [04:45] I mean I gave root a password [04:45] Roey..you did ..and does su accecpt it [04:45] yes sir. [04:46] Roey ok and you get nothing when you su to root and type locate gcc [04:46] lagunaloire: that is correct [04:47] Roey...wow...i have never encountered that problem ever on any distro....this is strange [04:48] haha yeah [04:48] as far as I know, locate worked a few months ago [04:48] then I updated from 22.04 -> 22.10 [04:48] Roey...well try sudo apt purge mlocate and then sudo apt install mlocate and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure mlocate and test it again [04:49] Roey also after purge do sudo apt autoclean just to be sure [04:52] still same behavior [04:52] rmdir: failed to remove '/var/lib/mlocate': Directory not empty [04:52] dpkg-statoverride: warning: no override present [04:52] Roey.use sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mlocate before you reinstall it [04:53] I did [04:53] yeah I just tried that again. [04:53] same behavior as before. [04:54] Roey...wow...maybe you have some new lib or something that is killing the program...but i can't imagine a problem with it after all these years [04:54] also, in /var/lib/mlocate (before I moved it out of the way), the files were last updated in April [04:54] why did it become broken like that [04:55] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CrhD4Wk2T4/ [04:55] gry, YGIAGAM [04:55] oh, hah, 2015 it says.. [04:56] Roey do you have liburing2 and libzstd1 [04:56] Rather than guessing I'd suggest check the mlocate/updatedb documentation. It probably has a way to bypass a specified directory. Maybe yours is bypassing "/"? [04:57] Roey...i think ubuntu wants to use a drop in replacement for mlocate...they want to be wierd and use plocate [04:57] ii liburing2:amd64 2.2-2 amd64 Linux kernel io_uring access library - shared library [04:57] ii libzstd1:amd64 1.5.2+dfsg-1 amd64 fast lossless compression algorithm [04:57] ^^ or s/mlocate/$Your-locate-implementation/ [04:57] Roey ok so you have the needed libs...unless there is some version problem [04:58] ok [04:58] Roey...for some reason ubuntu wants to use plocate instead of mlocate [04:58] rob0: plocate produces same results (no results) [04:58] Library problems would have showed up in the strace, and would not have had exit 0. [04:58] ok [04:58] "No results" from checking documentation?!? [04:59] what? [04:59] I meant that plocate gcc also gave me no results [04:59] Roey...ok you should not have /var/lib/mlocate...you should have /var/lib/plocate [05:00] -rw-r----- 1 root plocate 954 Nov 20 23:53 plocate.db [05:00] Roey...cd to /var/lib and see with ls -al if you have plocate subdirectory [05:00] in the listing of "ls /var/lib/plocate -l" [05:00] 954 is tiny [05:00] right. [05:00] that at least is dated Nov 20 [05:00] Again, I bet you're bypassing "/" [05:01] Roey..no cd to /var/lib...then ls to see if plocate is a subdirectory [05:01] $ ls /var/lib/plocate/ [05:01] CACHEDIR.TAG plocate.db [05:01] the ls output showed it is NOT a directory [05:01] $ ls /var/lib/plocate/ -dl [05:01] drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44 Nov 20 23:53 /var/lib/plocate/ [05:01] (the plocate.db I mean) [05:02] Roey...no cd to /var/lib ...not /var/lib/plocate [05:02] Roey..then from there ls to see if plocate is a subdirectory [05:02] $ ls plocate -dl [05:02] drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44 Nov 20 23:53 plocate [05:02] this is in /var/lib [05:03] Roey ok see the d..it is a subdirectory [05:03] sure [05:03] Roey and owned by root which should not be a problem if you have proper sudo privelegges [05:03] ok [05:03] I believe I should have those, right [05:03] Roey yes [05:07] ok so there is no issue [05:07] Roey...do sudo visudo and see what priveleges are given to members of the groups [05:07] with the permissions [05:07] ok, what should I be looking for, specifically? [05:07] root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL [05:07] Roey what do you see with sudo visudo....scroll down the file... [05:08] %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL [05:08] %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) AL [05:08] Roey but don't type anything [05:08] right [05:08] #includedir /etc/sudoers.d [05:08] Roey ok...are you a member of the admin group [05:08] aye [05:09] I mean, also, the fact that I can sudo updatedb, yeah [05:09] Roey do sudo nano /etc/group and scroll the list and see what groups you are in [05:09] Roey...there is adm group on ubuntu and wheel group on many other distros [05:10] adm,cdrom,sudo,audio,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare [05:10] Roey..is your username to the right of adm group [05:10] ^ my username is listed in the groups above [05:10] right [05:10] Roey...ok don't edit anything exit with ctrl x [05:10] aye [05:11] Roey...ok it sounds like sudo is setup ok for your system [05:12] ok cool [05:15] Roey...well type env by itself...and see if there is anything abnormal about your shell ...i use /bin/bash...and see if you have the usual paths [05:17] which locate [05:17] $ which locate [05:17] 20221121 00:16:59 [05:17] er [05:17] $ which locate [05:17] /usr/bin/locate [05:18] so I know my PATH is correct [05:19] Roey...well ok type ls -al /usr/bin/locate and see if it points to /etc/alternatives/locate...and see if that points to /usr/bin/plocate...then do ls -al /usr/bin/plocate [05:19] $ ls /etc/alternatives/locate -l [05:19] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jun 19 00:13 //etc/alternatives/locate -> /usr/bin/plocate [05:19] plocate uses updatedb.conf(5), https://plocate.sesse.net/updatedb.conf.5.html [05:19] ok [05:20] $ ls -l /bin/locate [05:20] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Mar 12 2014 /bin/locate -> /etc/alternatives/locate [05:20] Roey..ok good...then the next ls -al /etc/alternatives/locate [05:21] $ ls -al /etc/alternatives/locate [05:21] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jun 19 00:13 /etc/alternatives/locate -> /usr/bin/plocate [05:21] Roey...ok the links are good...so what does ls -al /usr/bin/plocate say [05:22] $ ls -al /usr/bin/plocate [05:22] -rwxr-sr-x 1 root plocate 314k Jun 24 12:50 /usr/bin/plocate [05:22] it's setuserid? hrm. [05:22] sgid [05:22] sgid, aye [05:23] which makes sense [05:23] ok [05:23] Roey..yes ok...all the execubles/libs/and permissions are ok...so maybe it is just a configuration file error [05:25] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3SR6ydTvV/ [05:25] lagunaloire: ^ [05:28] Roey..what do you have on ls -al /usr/sbin/plocate-build [05:29] $ ls -al /usr/sbin/plocate-build [05:29] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 48k Jun 24 12:50 /usr/sbin/plocate-build [05:29] Roey..yes that looks ok too [05:29] ok [05:30] Roey...i am thinking you might use the man page and try to set a database path for a known file like gcc and see if that produces a better result [05:30] Roey with the command line options for it [05:31] I checked the manpage didn't find info on that [05:31] Roey ...in all of this forking crap....plocate-build has to take the mlocate index and change it to a plocate index [05:31] Roey type man 1 plocate [05:32] ohhhhh ok [05:33] Roey do you see anything with man 1 plocate and man 8 plocate-build [05:33] $ sudo plocate-build mlocate-bad/mlocate.db.H8US0w mlocate/plocate.db [05:33] now that's running. [05:33] "getc: Success [05:33] " [05:34] lol, locate gcc still produced nothing [05:34] it did creat though a file, -rw-r----- 1 root plocate 954 Nov 20 23:53 plocate.db [05:35] alright. I'm going to bed [05:35] it's quite late here for me [05:35] good night, thank you lagunaloire, and I'lls ee you tomorow [05:35] Roey...yes ok...work on it later [05:36] lagunaloire: and again, much thanks for your help tonight :) [05:39] squarecircle / a couple with 8 & 6 drives: https://www.google.com/shopping/product/12431015999517251987?q=nas+storage+%222.5%22+drives&biw=1920&bih=915&uact=5&oq=nas+storage+%222.5%22+drives&gs_lcp=Cgtwcm9kdWN0cy1jYxADMggIABAWEB4QGDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BQgAEIAEOgQIABADOgcIABCABBAYOgoIABAWEB4QDxAYSgQIQRgAUABYhXRg8YQBaABwAHgAgAGcAYgB9guSAQQyMy4xmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=products-cc&prds=eto:1780320826506727269_0,pid:2014974786774581262,rsk:PC_15477666915147656363&sa=X&v [05:39] ed=0ahUKEwiVnKDnwb77AhUQMUQIHerdCTUQ8wII6g8 [05:39] https://www.google.com/shopping/product/1539650020837371945?q=nas+storage+%222.5%22+drives&biw=1920&bih=915&uact=5&oq=nas+storage+%222.5%22+drives&gs_lcp=Cgtwcm9kdWN0cy1jYxADMggIABAWEB4QGDoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6BQgAEIAEOgQIABADOgcIABCABBAYOgoIABAWEB4QDxAYSgQIQRgAUABYhXRg8YQBaABwAHgAgAGcAYgB9guSAQQyMy4xmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=products-cc&prds=eto:6147131553378451707_0,pid:1151383306563752204,rsk:PC_16740845257526892778&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVnKDnwb77AhUQMUQIHerdCTUQ8wII1RA [05:40] Diagon: did you know you can trim everything in those URLs from the ? to the snd? [05:41] rob0/ cool, thanks. [05:42] Bashing-om ok i got the file..let me burn it to dvd and see what screengrab says [05:45] lagunaloire: waiting :D [05:45] Bashing-om...ok i will burn it now...i got tied up looking into that strange mlocate issue that has never been a problem for more than 25 years on linux [05:59] Hi, Im trying to change my Lubuntu 22.04 Login screen, is there an easy way to do that? [06:02] Bashing-om ok it burned successfully with brasero so let me go boot it up [06:03] ChrisTheMangoman: the only GUI tools require more of KDE to be installed (Kubuntu also uses `sddm` thus why KDE tools allow it). Lubuntu config is mentioned here - https://manual.lubuntu.me/lts/3/3.1/3.1.8/sddm_configuration.html but it's via text editor changes [06:06] (the work on a easy method for LXQt is still in test; refer https://github.com/lxqt/sddm-config-editor thus not added in Lubuntu) [06:06] Bashing-om well it is trying to boot but they are using quiet with a splash so i can't see what is happening [06:06] Bashing-om but the kernel is live because ctrl-alt-del produces a reboot [06:08] Bashing-om so maybe just wait about 10 minutes to boot [06:08] Bashing-om i can't see what is happening at the kernel level [06:08] lagunaloire: you can hit ESC when you see the boot screen. that shows the messages [06:09] lagunaloire: What version ? As with 22.04 (x)ubuntu - takes a verry long time for me for the cd to boot up ! [06:10] Bashing-om i think it said kinetic something 22.10 [06:10] well one message i saw said failed to start disk manager [06:11] and failed to start modem manager [06:11] and failed to start snap daemon [06:12] also unable to read RDB block 8 [06:14] lagunaloire: Yukkie - seems will have to verify the .ISO integrity as a 1st step. [06:14] Bashing-om yes i already did that...with brasero it was successful...i think it uses the standard md5sum or maybe sha512 but anyway it checked ok [06:15] lagunaloire: if guiverc[m] is hanging with us - he is the Lubuntu guru :D [06:16] Bashing-om i think it is still trying to proceed with what it can for booting...but i can't see what is going on [06:17] Bashing-om well i tried putting a lxqt desktop on bionic..it was ok but i had buffer problems with the lubuntu terminal program when i held a key and let it repeat...it would come to a stop...so i gave up on it [06:18] lagunaloire: sometimes alt+F4 will get the install terminal. [06:19] Bashing-om no..that doesnt work...the place to boot properly is in the kernel boot command line options...so you can see what is happening...but its too late for that [06:19] Bashing-om i guess ubuntu is trying to keep it secret with all that quiet splash crap in the way [06:20] Bashing-om i forget the option because it is a complicated systemd issue...but i could find out later [06:21] lagunaloire: The installers they are achang'n :( [06:22] Bashing-om i think it is still trying to boot..so i will just keep waiting a while [06:25] Bashing-om yes i think it is still trying to proceed with a boot becuase i see a mouse pointer on the screen [06:25] lagunaloire: As curious as I be - I am going the heed the call to bed. Good luck :D [06:26] Bashing-om ok i will see you later...i am going to let this finish and look into screengrab [06:28] lagunaloire: sounds likely to me -- enjoy . [06:31] Bashing-om yes ok if you are still there...screengrab is working on it...there is a picture instead of a black screen like on this version with wayland [06:31] Bashing-om if not i will see you later [06:37] Bashing-om it looks like they fixed the buffer problem with qterminal...i held a key down for about 5 minutes and it did not come to a crawl on repeats...so it has improved [06:40] NeoFAT32...what a nick...most everybody has moved on to exfat instead of the great and reliable fat32 [06:40] Sorry. I'm actually the exFAT. [06:41] NeoFAT32 oh..ok ...it is becoming more popular these days for usbsticks and whatnot [06:41] Well, it has its perks. [06:42] NeoFAT32 well i can see they made some improvements with the qt desktop [06:42] NeoFAT32 for people who don't want to have to download all those kde libs [06:42] I was on Mint before, now I prefer to stay on Win10 'cause I'm tired of the lack of functions. [06:43] Functions that I have to install by myself from random libs. [06:43] NeoFAT32...well win10 is it man...i don't have Genshin Impact working on linux...but it works great on win10 [06:43] Don't know how you can get stuck with that game. [06:43] NeoFAT32...but linux is still fun to goof around with [06:44] Can only play with other people in dungeon. [06:44] NeoFAT32..hey its great...almost like final fantasy but without the big pricetag [06:44] NeoFAT32 and the girls are great on genshin impact [06:44] I prefer girls on Facebook. :x [06:44] NeoFAT32...no way...they don't look like anime with big eyes [06:45] Depends who you are watching on it. [06:46] NeoFAT32 well i guess Olivia Newton John had almost big eyes but they are dead now...but anime lives on and stays young and beautiful [06:46] NeoFAT32 tifa and aeris had great eyes in final fantasy 7...the original [06:47] Each of us, have its own preferences. [06:48] NeoFAT32 well yes i know...but yuffie was neat too and Rhinoa is an absolute dream in final fantasy 8 original [06:49] NeoFAT32..no i have to say i guess serah is the most beautiful of them all..but it is so sad that she had to die in final fantasy 13 one of the 3 parts of the trilogy [06:49] Well, I just need a real person. aha [06:49] NeoFAT32 but the girls in genshin impact are great too...and also the girls in dragon warrior series [06:49] lagunaloire, NeoFAT32: Feel free to take this topic to #ubuntu-offtopic. [06:50] (This room is reserved for technical support only in most circumstances.) [06:50] arraybolt3 well i guess they fixed qterminal..looks like it works fine here without technical support...so its good to see some progress made [06:55] ok let me see if i am in here now with the lubuntu live dvd kinetic whatever [06:56] laguna321 yes ok you are making the trip with that lubuntu desktop [06:56] just talking to myself while i check the lubuntu out [07:00] hmm..ok it has kernel 5.19...not much different than jammy ...i thought they would be at 6.04 or so by now [07:02] but its just for people who don't want to have to download all those kde libs...and it won't have marble or digikam [07:03] its a nice small footprint desktop...but it won't have all the great gnome or kde apps [07:05] i guess i will let it run overnight and talk to Bashing-om about it tomorrow [07:07] and i don't know how the lubuntu people can live without marble or some way of getting maps to go wherever you need to go with specific directions on how to get there and what traffic problems you might encounter on the way and if detours become necessary [07:11] timely detour paths and information if unforeseen accidents or other problems arise while you are in route...so that you can detour around the blockage and get to where you need to go on time [07:12]