[15:11] <OvenWerks> Ok, thats not nice. How do I force the held back packages to install? It seems the update installed enough to break my system but held back the rest that might fix it. I have no back drop, the workspace pager is gone... etc.
[15:11] <OvenWerks> Task manager is gone too.
[15:25] <OvenWerks> That didn't help...
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> Just tell apt to install the individual packages and see what happens.
[16:18] <OvenWerks> Did install --upgrade_only Still have black backdrop, missing workspace pager, task manager, task bar editor crashes
[16:18] <OvenWerks>  On the LTS
[16:23] <OvenWerks> I get: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.taskmanager/contents/ui/main.qml:15:1: module "org.kde.plasma.private.taskmanager" is not installed
[16:23] <OvenWerks> file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.pager/contents/ui/main.qml:17:1: module "org.kde.plasma.activityswitcher" is not installed
[16:23] <Eickmeyer> Yikes. Something is definitely broken.
[16:23] <Eickmeyer> Something didn't finish installing.
[16:24] <Eickmeyer> sudo apt install --reinstall plasma-desktop-data 
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> I have to take my son to school now.
[16:27] <OvenWerks> Ok, didn't help
[16:27] <OvenWerks> talk later
[16:42] <OvenWerks> My latte-dock has been removed too.
[16:46] <OvenWerks> plasma-desktop seemed to be gone !??
[16:49] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: we may want to add qpwgraph
[16:56] <OvenWerks> you had another patchbay as well.
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, patchance. 
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> latte-dock is deprecated, sadly.
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> qpwgraph only works with pipewire.
[16:58] <OvenWerks> IS there anything else that is like latte-dock?
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> Plank, maybe.
[16:59] <OvenWerks> I like latte-dock for remote logins (ssh -X)
[16:59] <OvenWerks> patchance does not seem to be available for the LTS
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> That's because I haven't packaged it yet. :)
[17:00] <Eickmeyer> Or, I have, I havent' submitted it and it hasn't been backported.
[17:00] <OvenWerks> plank seems to want to pull in libgnome-menu... not sure I trust that
[17:00] <OvenWerks> nothing qt-ish?
[17:00] <Eickmeyer> It's a library, not an entire desktop environment.
[17:01] <Eickmeyer> I don't believe there's anything qt-ish at the moment.
[17:01] <Eickmeyer> You might be able to manipulate a panel, but that's about it.
[17:03] <OvenWerks> I guess latte-dock will remain in the 22.04 repo so I will stick with that for now
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, probably.
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> Either way, something got seriously weird on your system.
[17:06] <OvenWerks> apt update, apt dist-upgrade
[17:07] <Eickmeyer> I might have a script for you to run.
[17:07] <OvenWerks> Anyway, reinstalling plasma-desktop seemed to be the big thing
[17:29]  * Eickmeyer[m] posted a file: reinstall-meta (1KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/JRdoZepAZqzLkuWFnvFwixHA >
[17:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I just wrote a script that should reinstall any package and its dependencies. It's kinda slow, but it works. You might try ubuntustudio-desktop first.
[17:29] <Eickmeyer> It's that link.
[17:39] <OvenWerks> Interesting. So it makes a deps user installed
[17:39] <OvenWerks> s/a/all/
[17:44] <OvenWerks> It's not quick :)
[17:45] <OvenWerks> but reistalls each package manually-ish
[17:46] <Eickmeyer> No, it marks them as auto installed upon install.
[17:46] <OvenWerks> ok.
[17:46] <Eickmeyer> It uses the flag "--mark-auto"
[17:48] <OvenWerks> I'll see what apt dist-upgrade does after that (If I get a big "this sw is no longer used...")
[17:50] <OvenWerks> Nope it's all good.
[17:51] <OvenWerks> I guess I should reboot though.
[17:51] <Eickmeyer> PRobably
[17:52] <OvenWerks> still ok.
[17:54] <OvenWerks> I think I ended up with an empty or bad packge file. unistalled the old files without installing the new? SOmething odd.
[17:56] <Eickmeyer> Sounds like it.