[00:22] hello! [00:28] Hi all. I'm using ubuntu 22.04. I tried to update my drivers for my RTX 3070, and now my display is completely borked. I've been using linux/ubuntu for many years, but I've got no idea how the video system works or how to fix it when it collapses. [00:28] At the moment I can run gnome, but only one of my two displays is running. The second display is blank [00:29] I can run 'nvidia-settings', but it doesn't show information on my monitors [00:29] Also, I have no gnome toolbars available, so I can't access settings. [00:29] bobdobbs: How did you do that driver update ? -- Is there now a need to Un-do ? [00:30] Bashing-om: I'm not even exactly sure what I was doing. Initially I was trying to install drivers from nvidia. But I was following instructions from online forums without really understanding them. [00:32] So yeah - there may well be things that I have to undo [00:32] bobdobbs: Oh Gosh darn - Nvidia advises not to do OEM install on linux systems - lemme pull up that warning, [00:33] what does 'oem install' mean? [00:34] bobdobbs: "Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.". [00:34] hmmm [00:34] use the drivers ubuntu proveides, they are tested [00:36] well, at the moment I don't know if I've got the ubuntu driver or the nvidia driver installed. How do I check? I really don't know a thing about ubuntu video stuff. [00:37] the command 'nvidia-driver' returns nvidia-driver-520. But I'm not sure what that means [00:38] bobdobbs: Let's see about cleanup: what shows ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-* ' ? [00:38] 470 and up should work https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/177145/en-us/ [00:38] but do not use their drivers.. [00:40] Bashing-om: that find command has been running for a bit. Hasn't returned anything yet [00:40] oerheks: why should I avoid their drivers? [00:42] bobdobbs: Patience, "Find" has to do a lot of looking :P [00:43] Bashing-om: command completed. It returned a few "permission denied" line, and a few "no such file or directory". But no hits, it seems. [00:45] hello. i am on my flash drive [00:45] ubuntu * thumb drive, live ISO [00:45] I don't see an IRC client, and the App Store doesn't work [00:46] just use webchat, guest [00:46] for now... [00:46] I am downloading Konversation [00:47] is there a list you can get to of installed Applications? [00:47] instead of those large obnoxious icons? [00:47] Maybe a desktop menu that shows a hierachy of apps? [00:49] bobdobbs: Now then I am uncertain of a best way to proceed - however - pastebin the result of ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia '. [00:49] hello. [00:50] guest the is gnome-menus, but what is the use in a live system that does not save any.. and you will run out of memory soon with many apps installed [00:50] !info gnome-menus [00:50] gnome-menus (3.36.0-1ubuntu3, kinetic): GNOME implementation of the freedesktop menu specification. In component main, is optional. Built by gnome-menus. Size 11 kB / 252 kB [00:51] how do i get the app store to work? [00:51] it wont load anything [00:52] run sudo apt update before entering app store.. on a live session [00:52] but why? [00:52] hmm [00:58] Hi. I'm back. I just rebooted. I now have a toolbar and panel. Still no activity on my second monitor [00:59] bobdobbs: And my last " Now then I am uncertain of a best way to proceed - however - pastebin the result of ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia '. [01:00] bobdobbs: And my last " Now then I am uncertain of a best way to proceed - however - pastebin the result of ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia '. [01:00] Bashing-om: sure thing... [01:01] https://hastebin.com/usabejarod.apache [01:03] I'm starting to get problems with packages being kept back on dist-upgrade with ubuntu 22.04. First it was some dependencies of jami, now it's some dependencies of jsonlint. I've never had this problem before. What gives? [01:03] Diagon: !phasedupdates [01:04] Bashing-om: well, I certainly seem to have lots of nvidia-related stuff installed [01:05] bobdobbs: Yeah ,, and looks like a driver conflict between 2 veesions. How about we clean things up and have the kernel install the driver it thinks best ? [01:05] sounds good :) [01:05] !updates | Diagon [01:06] Thanks, Bashing-om. Finding something here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1431940/what-are-phased-updates-and-why-does-ubuntu-use-them [01:10] Bashing-om: in terms of diagnostics, is this helpful? https://hastebin.com/qinecivole.yaml [01:13] Bashing-om: so, how do we go about cleaning things up? [01:19] bobdobbs: the grep output shows a driver comflict -as the find result does not find a Nvidia (O)rininal (E)quipment (M)anufacture driver - All I know to do now is purge the present Nvidia driver(s) installs - update; and have the kernel install a driver. [01:20] conflict* [01:20] ok [01:22] how would I do that/ [01:23] bobdobbs: In small steps - 1) run ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-* ' -- rboot; should come back up in the nouveau driver and 2) next run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade '. Advise when at this point to continue. [01:23] reboot* [01:24] ok. I might as well just nuke it all. [01:24] [01:25] k, I've purged everything. Will reboot. Crossing my fingers that I'll get video signal after reboot [01:25] brb (I hope) [01:30] k, I'm back. I do indeed have video signal [01:30] back to boring-old single-monitor [01:31] bobdobbs: Progress made :D .. ok now let's get rid of the cruft: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P [01:32] dang, that's one gnarly command [01:33] Bashing-om: k, that purged a lot of stuff. Mostly nvidia-stuff, it seems [01:33] bobdobbs: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages ( rc) you can remove all configuration data from every removed package. [01:34] thats what 'purge' does, right? [01:34] Diagon: jsonlint is in universe, though, i would not expect that to be phased, so maybe you have another issue. [01:34] removes configs along with everything else? [01:34] bobdobbs: confirm that you have updated/upgraded the system at this point. [01:35] yup. after I logged back in I did 'apt update' and then 'apt upgrade' [01:35] Diagon: apt policy jsonlint should either say that it's "phased" or not [01:35] bobdobbs: The flag ^ -- is "rc' where that means config files remain. [01:37] ah, I see [01:37] bobdobbs: Let's have the kernel install the proprietary driver ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' . Reboot again to see the effect. [01:38] kk [01:38] oh dear [01:39] https://hastebin.com/ubiqoqiwil.sql [01:40] Bashing-om: that looks like it might be an actual ubuntu bug [01:44] Bashing-om: yeah, it does look like an ubuntu bug. But I think I've found a workaround. An edit to a file in a system library file [01:44] bobdobbs: You on the Wayland desk top ? As it is known that Wayland and Nvidia do not play nice together. [01:46] afaik I'm not on wayland. I experimented with wayland when I got this sytsem. It was a complete disaster, so I nuked it [01:46] I nearly had to completely reinstall my system [01:46] k, I got ubuntu-drivers working. Will paste the output... [01:47] https://hastebin.com/azecegizaq.apache [01:48] Bashing-om: k, what I read from that is that the system wants to install a driver version that is not compatible with the kernal [01:49] oh wait. I'm wrong [01:49] The problem is "held broken packages". But I'm not sure what that means. Googling it. [01:52] bobdobbs: Ouch ! Let's try ' sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ' . Then run this again: sudo apt -f install - see if the package manager will heal it's self. [01:54] Bashing-om: alas, no. I ran those commands in the order you gave them, and then ran 'ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' again. I get the same result [01:54] one monitor makes me sad [01:55] i haven't followed the conversation, but https://hastebin.com/azecegizaq.apache looks like packages are installed in a version that's not available for ubuntu (i.e. third party, without active apt source). [01:55] if that's intentional, please just ignore [01:57] tomreyn: I may have installed something without an apt source. I don't know. [01:57] !info nvidia-driver-470 | jammy [01:57] jammy: nvidia-driver-470 (470.141.03-0ubuntu1, kinetic): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Built by nvidia-graphics-drivers-470. Size 441 kB / 1,534 kB. (Only available for amd64.) [01:57] Actually, I'm pretty sure I've installed things on this system after directly downloading. So I'm likely to have things installed that don't have an apt source. [01:58] apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' should tell you which packages / package versions are installed without active apt source providing it [01:58] https://hastebin.com/alezudezat.http [01:59] I don't think I know what surge-xt is [01:59] That list has 'cuda-repo...'. I'm guessing that's a package that touches apt sources files? [01:59] cuda-repo-ubuntu2204-11-8-local may have added file:/ URIs to apt sources [02:01] tomreyn: yeah. I think that that adds a source for an nvidia driver. Or perhaps for nvidia's cuda toolkit software. [02:01] apt policy libnvidia-gl-520 should show which sources this is available from [02:01] https://hastebin.com/owasemixuw.apache [02:02] see, the newer version that's not available in ubuntu is from the local apt repository. [02:02] huh [02:04] what's your goal? removing third party drivers, going back to ubuntu's? [02:04] tomreyn: yeah, now I'm wondering which direction I should Gorenoise_ [02:04] lol. damn autocorrect [02:05] tomreyn: I'm wondering which direction I should go. [02:05] In the short term I want to just get my displays working. Ubuntu's driver should work for that. [02:05] i'm not so much into nvidia, especially not cuda. all i could possibly guide on is how to restore what ubuntu provides. [02:06] But I also want to get stable diffusion working locally. And I don't know if ubuntu's drivers get in the way of that or not. I suspect not, but I don't know. [02:06] afaict, stable diffusion relies on python's torch library to use cuda. [02:07] actually, I should be able to find out if ubuntu's native drivers should work. I'll need to do a bit of googling. [02:10] hello! [02:11] If I tried to run the nvidia drivers, would I still be eligable to ask for help on this chanel? [02:12] bobdobbs: Again Nvidia suggest *NOT* to do that ! [02:13] can someone tell me how to get the app store working on ubuntu? [02:13] fresh live cd [02:14] Bashing-om: yeah, I've encountered that suggestion. But still... I'm not 100% that stable diffusion can make use of an RTX with the native drivers [02:14] Bashing-om: I think I should be able to. But I'm still figuring it out [02:15] tomreyn - so what do you make of this? https://termbin.com/rwh6 [02:16] bobdobbs: Ubuntu and Nvidia do have a close working relationship - if something does not work - then one files a good bug report to get the issue resolved. [02:17] I know smartctl is hit or miss with USB, depending on pass-through, but how about with USB-C? Does anyone know? [02:17] Diagon: not phased [02:17] tomreyn / oh. So what might be going on there? What might I look into? [02:18] well, I haven't found anything about issues related to the ubuntu native drivers and pytorch. So... might as well go with the native drivers [02:18] how do I get started? [02:19] tomreyn / I mean, I can install them individually and then set them back to auto, but I'd like to know what's going on... [02:19] Diagon: apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' should tell you which packages / package versions are installed without active apt source providing them. i suspect you have packages / package versions installed from an apt source that is not ubuntu's, which is no longer configured. [02:20] tomreyn / Oh, ok. That's possible as this is an upgrade from 20.04. I'll check, hold on... [02:22] tomreyn / I'll have to look through these ... https://termbin.com/spe7 [02:23] bobdobbs: remove the local nvidia repository, probably by apt purge'ing this package providing it [02:24] tomreyn: sorry, I'm a bit of a dimwit when it comes to apt. How do I go about doing this? [02:24] Diagon: this doesn't seem immediately related, but you should remove those packages you don't know / know you need to be installed like this, without an upgrade path and without getting security patches. [02:25] tomreyn / right, so if I'm understanding correctly, if the package is in a proper sources.list and the repo is working, then the package should be ok. Otherwise, I should be checking what's up. [02:25] bobdobbs: https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html#removing-cuda-tk-and-driver [02:25] tomreyn: thanks [02:26] tomreyn / so I might do a reverse depends on those php packages and see which of that list are depending on them, yes? [02:27] Diagon: sorry, i'm loosing track, can't seem to focus on supporting two apt issues at a time [02:27] :) [02:28] tomreyn: Bashing-om: k, that nvidia documentation for purging their drivers had some... purge comands. I've run them. No errors. I'm just gonna reboot. Back in a few minutes [02:29] Diagon: had you run sudo apt update before you ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ? [02:30] Yes. [02:30] Diagon: can you show sudo apt policy php8.1-common [02:31] actually no sudo needed there [02:31] bobdobbs / I will need to purge an nvidia driver in the future too. To save my asking for help, can you point me to the doc? [02:31] the same documentation you followed when installing it. [02:32] tomreyn / https://termbin.com/dole4 [02:32] Diagon: okay so *this* is phased, as you can see [02:32] so nothing to do here [02:32] Diagon: don't use aptitude though, it has problems [02:33] at least not for package installations and apt cache update [02:33] tomreyn / what's the alternative to `aptitude why` and ... some reverse depends syntax... [02:34] apt-rdepends [02:34] and 'apt policy' for the 'why' [02:35] and 'apt depends' [02:36] tomreyn / Sorry, one more: `aptitude show` is the one way I know to get long output about a pkg. [02:37] i don't remember what that looks like, but suspect it'll be similar to apt show and apt-cache show [02:37] tomreyn / apt depends is not in the man page! (Bug report necessary...) [02:37] got for it [02:38] *go for it [02:38] !bug | Diagon [02:38] Diagon: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [02:38] it would be good to first check whether that already exists [02:39] apt-rdepends is a separate package ... === Phr33d0m_ is now known as Phr33d0m [02:40] tomreny / ok, so is it possible that the reason php was held back, is that there is a package that needs the older version? [02:40] hi ho [02:41] Bashing-om, tomreyn. I'm back. I have video. And I think I've installed a driver. [02:41] Diagon: the reason the php update was not yet installed is phased updates. i was just assuming otherise initially since i had you check whether an unrelated package was phased. [02:41] I'm not sure if it's loaded though. And I suspect that it's an nvidia one? [02:42] bobdobbs: if nvidia-xsettings works, then you're running the proprietary nvidia driver. [02:42] bobdobbs: The file /var/log/gpu-manager.log shows all happy happy ? [02:42] I ran 'ubuntu-drivers autoinstall'. It installed a driver. If I run it now, it says "All the available drivers are already installed". So that's a start [02:43] tomreyn: do you mean 'nvidia-settings'? That runs but doesn't bring up information on the displays. [02:43] Ok, many thanks tomreyn! Saved the day again! [02:44] Bashing-om: the output of that log file: https://hastebin.com/didelaqafu.apache [02:44] Now, back to a previous question. I know smartctl will only work with some USB->SATA bridges, if they have pass-through. Is that also true with USB-C? [02:44] Diagon: you're welcome. the 'fail to full-upgrade issue' should sort itself out in a few days. [02:45] bobdobbs: i guess i mean nvidia-settings, yes if it doesn't work properly maybe that's because you're on wayland, or because you're running a different driver, or both. [02:46] Pretty sure I'm not on wayland. I'll try and figure that out... [02:46] Diagon: i have no first hand experience, but would expect so, yes [02:47] tomreyn: I'm using x11 [02:47] so echo $DESKTOP_SESSION $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP does not say wayland anywhere? [02:48] Yes. None of those variables show anything that looks like 'wayland' [02:49] and lspci -knnd ::0300 | grep 'in use' says "nvidia"? [02:49] yes [02:50] then, unless it failed to load, you're probably running ubuntu's nvidia driver [02:51] you'd need to look for the current xorg log if you wanted to know whether the driver failed to load, i'm not aware of another way [02:53] glxinfo -B | grep 'renderer string' would also hint on it if you have glxinfo installed. [02:53] That returns: OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 13.0.1, 256 bits) [02:54] hmm, that sounds like software rendering. could be normal for the -open driver, though, if you're using that [02:55] you may want to look at the log file Bashing-om had pointed out 14 minutes ago [02:55] Does line 12 of this output show us that an nvidia driver is being used? https://hastebin.com/xuqicerala.yaml [02:56] oh. I thought I pastebinned that [02:56] lets see... [02:56] Bashing-om: the output of that log file: https://hastebin.com/didelaqafu.apache [02:56] sorry, i missed that [02:57] https://hastebin.com/gobiwihuro.apache [02:57] tomreyn: bobdobbs: "Error : Failed to open /dev/dri" indicates to me that the driver did not load :( [02:57] drat [03:00] "operating system says no" [03:00] the log states the nvidia kernel module was loaded, but i agree the 2d and 3d drivers seems to have failed to initialize. [03:00] I wish it would tell us *why* it's not loading the driver [03:00] bobdobbs: I do not presently have a clue what in the world these "/kernel/nvidia-515srv" could be :( [03:01] this should be the headless drivers, no? [03:01] headless? [03:01] the -server packages [03:02] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia-driver-515 [03:04] so https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/nvidia-dkms-515-server [03:05] bobdobbs: the xorg initialization logs should be in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.*.log [03:07] if not there, then somewhere "Xorg"-ish in /var/log/ [03:07] tomreyn: I do have a log there. But it's too big to copy and paste to hastebin [03:07] oh, I think the system log is more copyable [03:07] log for lines with (EE) [03:08] *look for [03:08] https://hastebin.com/opazecavuw.less [03:09] That's just the output of 'cat Xorg.0.log | grep EE' [03:10] hmm, i'm afraid it doesn't tell us what exactly failed. [03:11] maybe it says near those "[drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:2d:00.0: -19" and "open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory" lines [03:11] from memory there's a commandline tool that can shunt a file to a pastebin. I'll see if I can find it [03:12] pastebinit is one [03:12] but i'm getting really tired now, need to sleep. good luck on your quest! [03:12] thanks tomreyn. sleep well. [03:12] thanks [03:15] dammit. pastebinit requires an Ubuntu One account [03:16] bobdobbs: termbin is the one I use :) [03:18] bobdobbs: However, be aware I have been to this point of the "Failed to open /dev/dri" a couple of times before - have yet to have the skill to get beyond :( [03:24] Bashing-om: I can't get it to work, and I'm having trouble finding an alternative. [03:29] bobdobbs: To relate a file to termbin - something like ' nc termbin.com 9999 < <(cat /etc/hosts;) '. [03:32] oh, I see the problem. I downloaded the wrong file. termbin.com links to the repo for a dependancy. I'll have to hunt around for the actual termbin script [03:36] huh. Where do I get the actual termbin script from? I can't find it. [03:39] I know that seems like a dumb question. I should be able to just Google for it and find it. But I can't find it online. It' own website doesn't even link to it. [03:40] bobdobbs: it's a web app [03:40] bobdobbs: struggling here to to know what nc entails. [03:41] nc being netcat [03:42] Bashing-om: nc is netcat. It's a network debugging tool. I think it's basically meant to be pluggable into scripts and applications as a way to send data directly to TCP ports. [03:43] So termbin uses netcat to send text files to pastebin-like services that offer a port for public service [03:43] but a couple of years ago most of those services shut down en-masse, because they were being abused [03:43] I don't know about that [03:43] bobdobbs: Many uses - trying to determine how I *DID* install netcat for my use cases :) [03:43] http://ix.io/ [03:44] I mean, those services shut down the capacity to accept pastes directly from things like termbin, because termbin and related tools can be part of automated toolsets for abusers [03:45] that's how it has always been with web apps [03:45] and will always be [03:45] you have to safeguard against it on the receiving end [03:45] hello everyone [03:45] hi little [03:45] is ubuntu servers on maintaince ? [03:46] i mean packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords= giving me error 500 [03:46] In the meantime - I'm still kinda screwed. I need to get wiser eyes than mine to look at my log files. But I can't paste them to a public service, cos they are too big. [03:47] now start to work [03:47] bobdobbs: what's the broader issue? [03:47] looks like an update or ddos happend . but look like it fixed [03:47] thx [03:48] nope still same [03:48] matsaman: I'm trying to get an nvidia driver working on my RTX card on ubuntu 22.04 [03:48] yeah packages.ubuntu.com failing for me just now [03:48] bobdobbs: which model? [03:48] 3070ti [03:48] and which driver/version are you trying? [03:49] I've installed one from the ubuntu repos. It's installed but not loading. I'll try and discover which version [03:50] dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia [03:51] matsaman: https://hastebin.com/qimodeloja.apache [03:56] Are there specific forums for getting help with ubuntu video issues? [03:57] here is probably best [03:58] IHi guys, I'm seeking advice on good full-stack web-dev frameworks, considering Django vs Ruby on Rails, and WHY. =) [03:58] I'm seeking advice on how to install Hardened Linux Kernel for my webserver, and if the hardened kernel would break/change any software, or is the hardening 100% passive/doesnt change settings? [04:00] bobdobbs: what makes you think it's not loading? [04:00] Guest1: rails is _horrible_ [04:00] just try installing it compared to django and you will see why [04:00] honestly I find ruby to be a pretty nice language, but rails is unbearably mismanaged and beastly [04:01] django is pretty good, though you should probably also look at flask & fastapi if you look at django [04:01] Guest1: hardening with enough effort doesn't limit functionality, but it can be much effort [04:01] Guest1: for a _server_ it's less problematic, because servers are less complicated than desktops [04:01] Is there a way to harden easily without breaking software [04:02] Like, how about Hardened Kernel patch [04:02] for starting [04:02] there is a certain amount of drop-in stuff like [04:02] apparmor and things [04:02] I forget what Ubuntu supports the most [04:03] How about the hardened linux kernel [04:03] if you really care about security I would move over to Debian stable, though [04:03] Debian more than Ubuntu [04:03] why [04:04] Debian has a stable branch, it's a bigger organization [04:04] Ubuntu is sourced largely from Debian's unstable branch [04:04] it is fundamentally less secure [04:09] hmmm [04:09] wow [04:09] are there are debian light distros [04:09] like lubuntu or xubuntu [04:09] for debian though [04:10] you can install Debian without a DE and then choose Xubuntu, LXDE, GNOME, etc [04:10] but for an actual server install you of course would not [04:10] (install a DE) [04:10] and then choose Xfce*, LXDE... whoops [04:10] What do u think is more lightweight [04:10] Lubuntu, or Debian with LXDE [04:11] historically it would've been LXDE but I feel like they've changed their configuration some [04:11] Xfce is my favorite [04:11] but I use Xfce on a distro that allows it to be built without optional GNOME support [04:12] even using LXDE on a Debian or Debian-based distro (such as Ubuntu) might draw in a lot of GNOME stuff, though [04:12] xfce then [04:12] debian xfce [04:12] nice [04:12] I like how easy it is to install software on Ubuntu [04:13] If by "GNOME stuff" you mean GTK, then yes. :> [04:29] Guest1: how do you personally install stuff in Ubuntu? [04:29] Unit193: I don't mean that, but it is true GTK and GNOME are increasibly inseparable [04:29] which is unfortunate [04:29] sudo apt install [04:29] many software is built for ubuntu [04:30] Guest1: well, it's built for Debian really [04:30] i thought ubutnu had a dedicated decently good security team too [04:30] apt is a Debian thing [04:30] Ubuntu is almost entirely actually Debian [04:30] Ubuntu has very, very few employees [04:30] I suppose it has many more volunteers, but not more than Debian, not remotely close [04:32] Bashing-om: hiya. I tried something else: I discovered the ubuntu GUI for installing proprietary drivers. [04:33] aa [04:33] Bashing-om: I used it to install the nvidia driver. It installed the driver. But after a reboot, I'm still not able to load the card [04:33] I just realized something - is there a chance that their is a hardware issue with the card? [04:38] bobdobbs: As I have said - this is not the 1st time I have ran into this - a stone wall for me- I have yet to be able to see why the module - that builds fine - does not load :( [04:39] where does Ubuntu rank in popularity among distros? [04:39] Yeah, it's a mystery to me too. [04:40] bobdobbs: that would usually result in crashes or other weird behaviour [04:40] Bashing-om: I think I'll remove everything, then try and do a clean install of the proprietary drivers, then gather information and post on the nvidia forums. [04:42] Bashing-om: I think I'd prefer to run the open drivers, but the nvidia forums offer support from paid staff. I've always found it hard getting help for video issues on ubuntu. It's just mysterious shiz that only a very few people seem to understand deeply enough to be able to help others. [04:43] bobdobbs: If you are to do that - I would ne interested in seeing the present results from ' sudo modprobe nvidia ' . [04:44] Bashing-om: at the moment that command produces no output [04:45] bobdobbs: Hummm - and again I do not know what to make of "no output" :( [04:45] same [04:46] bobdobbs: No output many times means success --- what shows dor a driver from ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? [04:48] lshw -C display [04:48] https://hastebin.com/ozesukibih.yaml [04:49] I just tried something else. Gonna reboot and see what happens [04:57] tomreyn told me to avoid aptitude. I've been using it only for aptitude search/ show. What other tool might show me the state of a package on a search? (p,c,i,v,A) ie. installed, automatically installed, configuration files remain, virtual, etc. [04:57] Diagon: ' apt policy ' . [04:59] Diagon: then too maybe ' apt show ' . [04:59] Bashing-om not quite doing it ... [05:03] dia [05:04] Diagon: As I have but sparringly ever used aptitude - I can not make the translations to apt :( [05:07] After installing Ubuntu with secureboot I get a screen that says perform mok management [05:07] What do I do there? [05:08] Enroll MoK ? Enroll key from disk? Or hash from disk? [05:08] I entered a password for secure boot [05:08] It's first boot post live iso === xenial is now known as Guest3366 [09:17] I am using 22.04.1 on Thinkpad T450s. The fingerprint does not wake up sometimes when trying to log in after screen lock. Any hints how to get rid of this nuisance? [09:27] elias_a: can you keep a journalctl -f open and paste the output after lock/resume so the volunteers can have a look? === docmax__ is now known as docmax [10:33] lotuspsychje: Good idea! I will. [11:38] hey [11:38] welcome m [11:38] are you real? [11:38] yes, what can we do you for m ? [11:40] i just came here to tell you that i appreciate your work [11:41] did someone help you fix an issue m ? [11:41] didnt have an issue, just wanted to thank you guys for your work [11:42] !cookie | everyone [11:42] everyone: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [12:07] Hi, I have an ubuntu installation on regular SSD but I want to move it on nvme ssd. So I've installed plain ubuntu 22.04 on nvme and rsynced regular ssd installation to the nvme install. Now what do I need to do in grub or in other places so I would boot into nvme installation ? [12:07] my motherboard does not know nvme boot (nvme drive is not seen in bios), so I would still have to use the ssd for grub boot loader [12:33] meandrain: if you have an efi system partition (ESP) on the SSD (but, preferrably, not the NVME) and have this configured on the new installations' /etc/fstab and run sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install there then this should install grub on the SSD's ESP [12:34] since rsync works on a file system level (not block device level), hopefully you had also created the same / suitable partitions on the nvme? [12:35] I did because first I've installed a new ubuntu on the nvme, then I rsynced over that minimal installation [12:35] is there a way to chroot to nvme and do grub-install ? [12:35] oh right, you said so, sorry [12:35] (from usb stick) [12:36] you'll need to chroot into the new installation to run the sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install commands (after editing fstab) [12:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot [12:40] tomreyn: tunning grub-update from chroot returns: /usr/sbin/grub-probbe: error: cannot find a device for / (is it /dev mounted?) [12:41] see the link i just posted, you probably did not (bind) mount some of the virtual file systems [12:42] this means you'll need to unmount file systems you mounted from within the chroot, exit the chroot, mount the missing file systems, enter the chroot again [12:43] step 10 is where /dev gets bind mounted into the chroot [12:44] you will also need to mount the ESP in the chroot [12:48] tomreyn: yes, mount bind was missing, I had to mount /dev/, /dev/pts, /proc, /run, /sys [12:50] and /boot/efi [12:51] meandrain: ^ because otherwise grub would have installed to the wrong place. === on is now known as t00r === EriC^^ is now known as Guest3386 [13:04] im using vlc to listen to old music on headphones with very bad stereo, meaning soundis only balanced if I use mono, but I have to change this parameter each time I replay the same song or any new song. How do I change it so vlc always plays mono? === Guest3386 is now known as EriC^^ [13:18] gneeriiloeepdeer: try this: Tools > Preferences > Audio > Bottom left corner "Show settings" enable all > Audio > expnad `Output modules` > ALSA (or whatever you use) > Audio output channels > Mono - video example: https://filehost.0bin.xyz/files/HYguHxGNEik1bzAy.webm [13:33] Hi all [13:48] Hi, can you advice ? I'm using Ubuntu 22.04 with XFCE (latest). Also, i use Chrome as by default web browser. A few days ago something happened with it, and i can't ignite Open/Save dialog. So i can't upload images for example on a websites. Maybe i have some problems with QT/GTK or whatever it uses? This problem only affects Google Chrome. Any other software works fine. I also have a second laptop with the same system(cloned), [13:48] and it has the latest updates as my primary system as well. And this laptop has no such issue. What should i inspect on my prim. system to find out what's wrong with it ? === Fireman-Ed is now known as FiremanEd [13:51] xatrix: you could run chrome from a terminal and see whether it prints relevant error messages there. as well as watch journalctl -f for anything related logged there. [13:52] tomreyn: thanks for the answer! Yea, i tried it. But i received no warning or debug messages when hit a hotkey CTRL+O or S [13:52] xatrix: i'd suggest also comparing to chromium-browser [13:52] If it's possible, i'd like to stay in a stable branch of google-chrome [13:53]