[00:00] <Unit193> If you make those a depends, users can't switch back to pulseaudio as easily if they want.  Pipey still has quirks.  Not offhand, I can check.
[00:02] <Unit193> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/xubuntu.lunar/_germinate_output looks like this hasn't yet retriggered?  The only pipewire output is * Chose pipewire-media-session to satisfy pipewire-bin
[00:19] <bluesabre> Hm
[00:20] <Unit193> (With this issue, I've considered switching back.)
[00:23] <bluesabre> Yeah, the pipewire issue you described before sounds pretty bad... surely that'd be something that would be blocked/resolved before lunar releases.
[00:24] <bluesabre> Guess I'll revisit the -media-session issue tomorrow. Would blacklist be the next logical step?
[00:25] <Unit193> I'd test that locally yeah.  Well I'd test locally to ensure nothing is outdated, then blacklist.  The blacklist thing isn't that great tbh.
[00:26] <bluesabre> How do I test it locally? Some specific germinate command?
[00:27] <bluesabre> Somehow, in all this time, I haven't built a single ISO
[00:30] <Unit193> You won't be building an iso.  What I do is clone the seed to a webdir and make changes, pull-lp-source xubuntu-meta, update the file update.cfg then run ./update and check the output.
[00:31] <bluesabre> Gotcha. Will give that a go!
[00:31] <bluesabre> Thanks Unit193!
[00:31] <Unit193> Or I can try real quick.
[00:32] <bluesabre> Only if you want, don't want to be a bother. :)
[00:32] <Unit193> Already running.
[00:48] <Unit193> Welp, so much for that plan...
[01:07] <Unit193> bluesabre: I'm utterly confused as to why it's not picking up wireplumber...
[01:12] <bluesabre> :D
[01:12] <bluesabre> Glad it doesn't make sense to you either :)
[01:13] <Unit193> Because I can adjust pipewire to recommends and it picks it up, but won't pick up wireplumber and won't tell me why not..
[01:14] <Unit193> For standard I put in wireplumber, unit193-settings, and arch-install-scripts.  The output I get is that the middle one doesn't exist, yet the others don't get added either. :D
[01:17] <Unit193> ...Well now I'm confused!
[01:18] <Unit193> ! Duplicated seed: wireplumber
[01:18] <Unit193> Added arch-install-scripts to core, desktop
[01:18] <Unit193> Added testssl.sh to core, desktop
[01:18] <Unit193> Added wireplumber to core, desktop
[01:21] <bluesabre> Something, somewhere, worked
[01:43] <Unit193> You know, I freaking hate germinate.  It's a pile of crap.
[01:50] <Unit193> ....well I got it back...
[02:49] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right!  So the conclusion to that was this: https://dpaste.com/7SG34HBNX  Why do you need two?  I have no clue, you shouldn't.  But if you do, it works....
[02:49] <Unit193> Try ./update with just one, then add the second.  Voodoo.
[02:49] <Unit193> And if it doesn't work, try putting it as a hard dep and three more recommended wireplumber, it should show up.
[02:49] <Unit193> .103
[02:55] <Unit193> #ubuntu-devel
[14:48] <bluesabre> Thanks. Experimenting with it, seeing if I can make it work.
[14:48] <bluesabre> btw, I'm really digging distrobox: https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox
[14:59] <bluesabre> I've not had any luck with getting wireplumber added, even with those changes. :\ I'll probably just file a germinate bug later today.
[18:18] <Unit193> Eh?  That reproducably worked for me. :(