[00:01] huh. I have no idea. I am ust following a walk-through from google. since this adapter does not seem to work out of the box, it is a RTL8811CU [00:23] i'''ll keep with my google search === osolus is now known as rrr [01:09] should I just re flash this image and start over and try to upgrade the software version instead? [01:12] because I am never going to vie up, this adapter is supposed to work in ubuntu, [01:13] and I am able to tether my iphone for the intial internet connection to install and access required libs and utilities === esv_ is now known as esv [02:19] Sabotender: What problems are you actually having with the build? Is it or can it be set up for dkms? [02:24] how do I disable automatic login for lubuntu 22.04? I only found instructions for ubuntu shell(?) my user config panel doesnt have the option [02:26] I think that's probably going to be in SDDM's configuration? [02:26] ducasse: I am not sure. I am just trying to get this wireless adapter to work correctly but I can't even manage to compile a driver nor get the ones that apparently already exist to install or work [02:27] fowl: Check /etc/sddm.conf.d/autologin.conf. [02:28] fowl: Er, /etc/sddm.conf might have the setting, that's where it is on my system. [02:30] it's like I can't catch a break. my next attempt is going to be typing: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade and hope the driver is included in a new kernel, if I get one. [02:32] Sabotender: ^ then ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' . [02:33] my adapter is a RTL8811CU [02:36] Sabotender: It looks like an update might fix it - not sure if you said what Ubuntu version you were running, but the adapter is a few years old so it should be covered by a current install. [02:38] hmm looks like this image is using Ubuntu 22.04 version [02:38] but mind you , this is an ARM logic board [02:38] Sabotender: This is dated 2020, might help: https://tutorialforlinux.com/2020/09/24/step-by-step-realtek-rtl8811cu-driver-ubuntu-20-04-installation/ [02:38] Sabotender: Ah, not all drivers get built for alternative architectures. [02:41] I saw that one, but it looks like he is more interested in pushing some sort of personal philosophy instead of giving you the correct information. What do they call it? clickbar? [02:41] Clickbait? Sorry. [02:42] !paste [02:42] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:43] Sabotender: If you want help, you're going to have to outline what you've done so far, what worked, what didn't, and how it failed. You might use a pastebin, as that may get a little wordy. [02:44] Sabotender: Also, it's after hours on Sunday in the biggest audience area for this channel, you might try Monday during North American work hours. [02:44] Sabotender: Good luck! === Telvana is now known as Blinkenlights === Blinkenlights is now known as Rob [03:23] im trying to remove update-notifier but it will also uninstall ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop-minimal, etc. will this uninstall the entire gui? === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [03:28] or if anyone can provide a way to disable the annoying update popups === ronald is now known as rldml === Rob is now known as Telvana [05:53] realivanjx: "sudo sed -i 's/^$[^#]$/#\1/g' /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier" [06:29] Is there a way to view the CPU utilization graph for a single core alone? I have 32 cores on my server and I don't want the graph to look cluttered. I also don't want to separately plot it every time by collecting stats and using a plotting tool so looking for an easy tool that can do it. [07:41] Hello, did the way cron sends email change between 18.04 and 20.04? After upgrading our base image our docker containers suddenly wont send emails. === Bocaneri is now known as Guest9581 === Guest9581 is now known as Sauvin [09:31] Does netplan run the /etc/network/if-up.d/ scripts, like e.g. network-manager's dispatcher does? [09:31] (I mean, when netplan is using systemd-networkd as the backend) [09:43] No, but I guess one can create /etc/networkd-dispatcher/routable.d/01-ifupdown as needed... [10:33] Since upgrading to 22.04 my laptop (Thinkpad P14s) battery drains while plugged in! Any idea why this would be? [10:34] Maybe you have force-discharge enabled? [10:34] Did you install tlp? [10:36] hiya: 'force-discharge' - is that for resetting the battery? If so, no, I don't have that enabled ... and the drain isn't that fast - it's something like 5% over ~6 hours of use. [10:36] I don't think I have tlp installed ... can check [10:37] hiya: tlp is not installed [10:38] zetheroo: cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_behaviour [10:39] No such file or directory [10:49] Installed 22.04, then nvidia driver on Thinkpad T530/ Optimus. `prime-select query` returns nvidia. Switching BIOS to "Discreet Graphics" and I get freeze on boot: "ACPI: vidao: Video Device [VID1] (multi-head: yes rom: yes post: no)` then `sdhci` and it freezes with fan cranking. [10:51] Booting recovery produces same problem. === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc === d1rewolf_ is now known as d1rewolf [12:26] Diagon: what does: fwupdmgr get-updates say ? [12:28] SteelRose It's a new install, but ... I'll switch the bios back and check. Hold on ... [12:33] SteelRose : First, it's running BIOS, so "Warning: UEFI firmware can not be updated in legacy BIOS mode" Then it lists my HDD's (no available firmware updates) and finally it says, "No updatable devices" [12:34] Diagon: why do you use the legacy BIOS? [12:35] This is an old machine; and, I prefer it. [12:35] There was some other reason I vaguely remember, but I'm forgetting details. [12:54] BIOS vs. UEFI won't matter for Linux, but the bootloader is managed differently. [12:59] hi I am trying to get device drivers for the RTL8811CU for arm arch, . the ubuntu image has version 22.04 is there support for this wireless adapter? I checked around and it looks like it is, but I am not able to compile the driver from the link that I tried === o is now known as niko [13:14] Sabotender: usually "compile the driver" is the wrong answer for Ubuntu. [13:15] Look up your device online, consult linuxwireless.net [13:16] seems like recently I looked one up similar to yours [13:16] (I don't have time today, $dayjob) [13:18] um, okay. [13:18] thx. I'll continue using google. thank you for the very welcomingresponse. [13:21] lo, i'm wondering about 22.04 and needrestart and using ansible to run updates: i'm fine with ndconf{restart} = 'a' for services, but wouldn't want it to reboot [13:35] btw, I wasn't asking anyone to compile drivers for me, I have fingers. I was seeking some support with the errors I received when attempting to compile them myself, and/or whether or not the driver is already included within a different kernel or some other setting that I need to type to enable the wireless adapter dongle [13:37] Hi. Is this main Ubuntu support forum? [13:38] hi, it's IRC, not a forum [13:38] ok, but it has been moved around, this is the main support IRC now right? [13:39] let me try to log in with my account [13:39] moved? Well, in 2021 May, yes, but not since then. [13:39] yeah Guest26 [13:40] If you had a freenode account it is gone. [13:40] Sabotender: a pastebin would help you show others what you are seeing. [13:40] OK. It says this channel is logged. Is this the log: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2022/11/28/%23ubuntu.html [13:41] Or is this the freenode [13:41] freenode is gone [13:41] This doesnt seem the correct log [13:43] It does show recent conversations from this channel [13:43] So yesterday's log is full? [13:43] and correct [13:46] oh, my Odroid has no mouse, so I can't paste things directly from there, hmm [13:47] Guest26: Looks like it [13:48] Sabotender: pastebinit or similar [13:54] Hi all === Guest12345522 is now known as croraf === croraf is now known as croraf1 [14:17] https://pastebin.com/YBQWsuh1 === gyg is now known as MissedTheSpot [14:21] look for mfloat-abi in the makefiles, i suppose [14:40] hi i updated nvidia drivers on ubuntu 20.04. now it wont boot. it is just blinking cursor after trying to boot latest linux kernel [14:41] 5.15.0-53 generic === Rahoul7140584885 is now known as Rahoul [14:41] I used nuveau, now i switched to nvidia 520 [14:43] please help [14:47] croraf google how to tell grub how to go to cli, roll back from a terminal [14:47] ssh into the machien from externally if possible [14:48] how to roll back? [14:48] can i start machine wothout gpu drivers [14:48] then i can change it from the gui [14:56] find the old package ( packages.ubuntu.com ) download, dpkg -i [14:58] archpc you wanna play battlefield 4 [15:03] Hi friends of Linux =) , I am wondering, is there a way I can update my servers OS using an .onion service or the Tor network? [15:05] I want to hide the update server I am using from my local ISP [15:08] the joys of using nvidia drivers [15:09] RiverFish20, well, you'd have to use TOR as an http proxy. not sure if that's possible anymore, once was. search the web. [15:10] gtg [15:13] Since upgrading from 20.04 to 22.04 I've noticed a serious degradation of performance. With just a couple browser windows open, a dozen tabs, terminal, Files ... it's like my PC is under-powered most of time - even when merely opening a new website. Even openeing google.com takes seconds to finish loading. [15:15] What OS are u using [15:15] Check your passive ram and cpu usage with only terminal open [15:16] I have a very low powered OS and havent noticed any major preformance difference from 20.04 to 22.04 [15:17] What do you mean by 'OS'? I said I am using 22.04 (Ubuntu obviously). [15:18] wasnt obvious [15:18] could be using Xubuntu for all I know [15:18] thats why I asked [15:18] Well, Personally I cant run stock Ubuntu [15:18] I have to run Xubuntu or Lubuntu [15:18] and they are working fine on my minimum spec laptop [15:18] So, maybe its the desktop environment? [15:19] Try Lubuntu and see if it works better for you [15:19] Ok, well unless otherwise stated ... it's Ubuntu here in this channel ;) [15:19] ok [15:19] Is it possible to start ubuntu without gpu drivers [15:19] No thanks. We use Ubuntu as the workplace Linux distro. [15:20] I mean, Ubuntu and Lubuntu are just different DEs, otherwise nearly the same [15:21] Lubuntu is just lighter [15:21] probably results in better preformance [15:22] RiverFish20: There's no difference in the OS between the various "flavors", they're just different GUI desktops implemented on top of the same base system. [15:23] Moving to a different DE isn't a solution - Ubuntu (GDE) is slow and I would like to find a solution to getting it to work faster. I'm well aware that there are more lightweight DEs out there. [15:23] RiverFish20: That said, the majority of users, and hence the majority of volunteers here, use the standard Gnome desktop. [15:24] and those with more recent hardware use kde [15:25] * tuxick ducks [15:25] I really get the sense that Chrome's resource management (CPU/RAM) sucks in Ubuntu 22.04. Maybe it has something to do with the gfx drivers? Whatever it is, it's made work for me border on impossible. [15:25] zetheroo: xfce and lxde are good compromises between function and light weight. [15:26] zetheroo: If you think it's your browser, try a different one. Chrome and Firefox are both pretty heavy. [15:26] zetheroo: worse than firefox on 20? [15:27] jhutchins: I have a fairly decent PC here. Thinkpad P14s i7 16GB RAM ... it should be just fine with Ubuntu :) [15:28] For work we use all Google services, and those are best-integrated with Chrome ... which is why Chrome is our officially-supported browser. [15:28] I haven't used FF in years. :/ [15:29] I guess I could try Brave [15:30] zetheroo: You need some objective benchmarks on what parts of the system are running slow. [15:31] jhutchins: I know. I wish I could get some. :( [15:31] zetheroo: Are you sure it's not something other than Chrome? I mean I use Chrome exclusively on all my systems and it runs just fine. [15:31] zetheroo: This is Linux, you have to make your own. [15:31] tuxick: lol I'm on KDE over here :P [15:32] arraybolt3: If I close Chrome, and all associated apps, my system is much more responsive ... instantly [15:32] zetheroo: Which version of Chrome, from what source? [15:32] zetheroo: Can you look at System Monitor and see how much RAM and CPU power is in use? Also is this a spinning disk system or an SSD system? [15:33] zetheroo: Chrome uses the graphics subsystem fairly heavily. What chipset do you have, and what drivers are you using? [15:33] Version 107.0.5304.121 (Official Build) (64-bit) [15:34] I have over 35 tabs open here and have yet to break 16 GB on my 32 GB laptop. [15:34] I have Intel and Nvidia, but I am only using the Intel gfx [15:35] arraybolt3: yeah, it's not the RAM, it's the CPU which seems to be spiking when opening new sites [15:35] Hmm. Did you by any chance tweak some setting just before this happened? I mean I sometimes run Chromium (which is just the open-source Chrome) on ancient systems with a 2nd gen Celeron and 4 GB RAM and it works just fine there too. [15:36] (This is all with various flavors of Ubuntu 22.04.) [15:36] I'm not using other flavors of Ubuntu though. I'm using the default GDE. [15:37] I know but I mean the flavor of Ubuntu hasn't impacted my experience. I've used standard Ubuntu Desktop, as well as Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu. Great experience on all four. [15:37] Perhaps Wayland is causing trouble somehow? [15:37] Try logging into Ubuntu using an X session and see if the problem goes away. [15:37] GPU: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] [15:38] 2d:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP108GLM [Quadro P520] [15:38] I'm trying to install Ubuntu 20.04 with autoinstall but curtin is crashing on my storage config. Well, it seems to crash *after* it creates the partitions. here's my storage config: https://dpaste.org/qbz9T and here's the failure message: https://dpaste.org/HoY9O [15:38] (Because admittedly my Ubuntu Desktop system seemed to have more trouble than all the other systems - I attributed that to it being underpowered for my use case but maybe Wayland had something to do with it.) [15:39] arraybolt3: Wayland is years away from any optimization projects. They're still working on basic functionality. [15:43] arraybolt3: with Chrome closed my PC runs real smooth [15:43] Right but you want it to run smooth with Chrome open, right? I'm trying to think of things to change other than closing Chrome. [15:43] I have two Brave windows open and about as many tabs as I had open in Chrome ... [15:43] Yes, but the question to me is, what is Chrome doing that Brave isn't .... [15:43] I'm going to sync my Chrome profile to Brave and see ... [15:44] zetheroo: A wild guess would say that you're running off of the Intel graphics, which are power optimized, rather than the Nvidia subsystem which is performance optimized. The high CPU usage supports this theory. [15:45] That's a good point. zetheroo, see if you can enable hardware accelerated graphics in Chrome. That might do the trick. [15:45] jhutchins: I would agree with that theory. Only question then is, why the drastic performance change with the upgrade to 22.04? [15:45] (That should hopefully use the iGPU.) [15:45] zetheroo: Perhaps a config setting got lost somewhere when you upgraded? [15:45] arraybolt3: it's already enabled [15:46] Tar. [15:46] Then really the only other significant thing I can think that changed was Wayland. [15:46] When you're first logging into your user account, there's a gear in the lower-right corner you can click that will offer you an option called "Ubuntu on Xorg" or something similar. Use that when you log in and see if Chrome starts working good again. [15:47] arraybolt3: true - will try that on next boot [16:08] zeroes_: I didn't see you mention a change in performance before, just that you were dissatisfied with it. [16:09] zeroes_: Change in performance could easily be caused by a change in the default chipset, which could happen with an upgrade. [16:17] Ok, I'm back with some observations. [16:17] 1. Logging into Xorg instead of Wayland didn't bring any noticeable improvement. Actually the login took longer. [16:17] 2. Changing the Nvidia PRIME profile from 'Intel (Power Saving Mode)' to 'NVIDIA O-Demand' made a noticeable difference to Chrome/System performance - though now I notice the temps being a bit warmer, as would be expected. [16:17] 3. Changing the Nvidia PRIME profile from 'Intel (Power Saving Mode)' to 'NVIDIA O-Demand' seems to have changed the login settings to 'Ubuntu' and 'Ubuntu on Wayland', wheres before it was 'Ubuntu' and 'Ubuntu on Xorg' - or? [16:23] That would make sense - NVIDIA uses X by default I believe. [16:23] zetheroo: ^ [16:23] Ah ok === elastic_dog is now known as Guest5195 [16:38] is there some kind of chroot I can run from the install media to an installed system? I need to uninstall gnome-shell-extensions because it seems to be preventing my computer from booting [16:39] rbancroft: try entering recoverymode, purge from there? [16:40] l0tuspsychj3: ok thank you, I will try [16:40] rbancroft: once in recoverymode, enable networking and drop to a rootshell after [16:50] ok yes that works, I'm able to get in, thanks! === Phr33d0m__ is now known as Phr33d0m === jesopo is now known as jess [17:25] hello what exactly does the Performance setting in the top right do? it makes my cpu fan spin like no other distro [17:25] I'm attempting to connect to a corporate L2TP VPN using MATE 22.04 (clean install) and network-manager-l2tp-gnome. The L2TP connection establishes (and remains), but I cannot access anything on the VPN, even via IP. Pinging the VPN DNS servers (by IP) also doesn't work "Destination Host Unreachable". It works in Windows 10 so my account should be okay. Any ideas? [17:30] One thought I had is my home router is using 192.168.0.xxx and 192.168.1.xxx addresses, so perhaps there is some conflict. I'd like to try configuring NM to route 192.168.xxx.xxx through the VPN ppp0 device, although I don't know how to do so. [17:43] calamari: do a traceroute against the VPNs DNS servers, see where it goes. If there is an IP address / network conflict between your LAN and the VPN, why would this not also affect windows? [17:44] (I mean a routing conflict, not duplicate assignment of a single IP address to multiple devices.) [17:45] inspect the default routes configured (ip r) to tell whether there is any overlap [17:45] tomreyn: mtr says "(no route to host)". And good question re: my router and Windows, I don't know [17:46] tomreyn: There is, although ppp0 had a lower metric. I deleted the eth0 route any way and it didn't make a difference. [17:46] tomreyn: I just added a setting that should set a 192.168.0.0/24 route with a lower metric for ppp0 than eth0. brb, going to try that [17:50] tomreyn: Partial success! After adding that route I can now ping the DNS servers. DNS isn't working yet, but I'm going to try adding search domains just in case that's it. [17:51] how does it work? [17:52] nasum: Was that for me? [17:52] what it do? [17:52] 17:25:26 nasum | hello what exactly does the Performance setting in the top right do? it makes my cpu fan spin like no other distro [17:53] nasum: Ahh sorry, I don't really know what you're referring to. [17:53] try it [17:53] top right drop down menu [17:54] nasum: I think you might be using a different desktop environment than I am. I'm running MATE. [17:54] calamari: so i guess this means you have the same networks remote and local, that's a bummer. see if you can segment those networks differently (maybe you just need 192.168.0.1-255 at home but not for the work network) [17:54] calamari: im using ubuntu live ISO [17:56] nasum: i think the setting changes the CPU frequency scaling governor btween performance and powersave settings [17:56] https://askubuntu.com/questions/604720/setting-to-high-performance [17:57] (scroll down for 22.04 + screenshot) [17:57] tomreyn: does it increase/decrease frequency? or is there a multiplier like on zen2 ? [17:59] nasum: my limited understanding is that it changes how (easily, in which range) the frequency is automatically adjusted. [18:01] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1406165/how-does-ubuntu-22-04-handle-power-modes - which is linked to from the above page, provides more info [18:10] nasum: here's a shorter explanation: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-profile.html [18:19] Hi, my laptop worked fine using Nuveau drivers, but after I switched to propriatery it wpnt boot (cursor blinking on black screen). [18:19] I switched it using the Software Update GUI app. [18:19] Ubuntu 20.04. [18:19] Please help [18:24] croraf: press escape on boot right *after* the screen telling you how to enter bios, this should bring up grub menu, where you can select Advanced and boot into recovery mode. From there, you can enable networking (assuming you have a wired internet connection) and drop to a root shell. from there, you can undo the installation you did. [18:24] i can enter grub advanced. I can go in recovery mode [18:24] it looks a bit strange [18:25] maybe because you have not looked at this before? [18:25] some visual artifacts. what to do from recovery screen I dont know (those options) [18:25] It had some visual artifacts [18:25] oh i see [18:25] i explained how to go on above [18:26] select "network", then select "root" [18:27] https://pasteboard.co/tNq7I3mhmyT0.jpg [18:28] ok, it says enter for mainzainance ctrl+d to continue [18:28] that's because this menu is not entirely compatible with systemd, i guess [18:29] you can actually try to just press ctrl-d now, this should boot in VESA mode, the low resolution graphical fallback mode [18:29] it may be easier to undo what you did from there [18:29] ctrlD just returns to the recovery menu [18:30] select "resume" then [18:30] tomreyn: Got it! The search domain was the final key. I didn't understand what I was doing with them, but once I realized it was a suffix added to the domain name it all clicked. Thanks a lot for your help. For now I can either be on the VPN or I can connect to local servers, but not both. That's acceptable for my situation so I won't try to fix it. [18:30] it goes to boot which stucks again [18:30] tomreyn [18:31] croraf: okay, it was worth a try. then repeat these steps and where it suggests to press Ctrl-D just press enter and ping me again. [18:32] with enter i got into small terminal below [18:33] answering my own question for the archives: I mixed up EFI and BIOS stuff in my storage config; this is for a BIOS system. Fixed storage config: https://dpaste.org/pKrHo [18:33] calamari: cool, glad it works. in most home routers you can actually change the ip address range. but that's something to be careful about, since it will also change the address hwere you can configure the router. [18:33] croraf: okay, how did you install the nvidia drivers? and which graphics card do you have exactly? [18:34] rtx 2080 mobile [18:34] I set it using Software Update (ubuntu aplication) [18:34] that's the answer to the second question, thanks, what about the first? [18:34] okay, got it [18:35] there it was Nuveau selected, which wokred [18:35] do you have internet access now? does ping -c1 1.1.1.1 say something about timeouts? [18:36] like this https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+software+update+additional+drivers&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&prmd=nvi&sxsrf=ALiCzsbbjR-aOiJ2eYdGxPFswUbR8hII4A:1669660520384&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXz9mRwtH7AhWvgP0HHRIMDFoQ_AUoA3oECAEQAw&biw=393&bih=737&dpr=2.75#imgrc=uplNcmvgtdwo1M&imgdii=_nttumtvzuo3RM [18:36] network unreascable [18:36] so you have no wired network connection? [18:37] no [18:37] I use wlan [18:37] are you able to change that temporarily? [18:37] no unfortunately [18:37] But i have nuveau installed [18:37] I just switched it [18:38] can i not start without GPU drivers [18:38] and just switch back [18:38] you can try switching back now using ubuntu-drivers [18:38] that's a command [18:40] what does ubuntu-driver list say? [18:40] https://pasteboard.co/w6mu37BxbU78.jpg [18:41] with "list" please [18:41] I did [18:41] moment [18:41] not on this screenshot [18:42] https://pasteboard.co/oZP3h0ZITdxy.jpg [18:43] this looks like the drivers i selected [18:43] but i dont see Nuveau name [18:44] it was the last one in that app, but here 520 is not first [18:45] hmm maybe if you ubuntu-drivers list --free-only it will list nouveau? [18:45] no [18:45] tried [18:45] perhap nuveau is one of those [18:45] i'm not sure whether the CLI actually has support for removing the proprietary driver. [18:45] no, nouveau wont be one of those [18:45] but nuveau was mentioned in description [18:46] what you can do is to purge all nvidia packages [18:46] nouveau was not mentioned on your screenshot, i think? [18:46] it was not [18:47] In that gui application [18:47] it was mentioned [18:47] right [18:47] i don#t think the ubuntu-drivers command line interface (CLI) provides the option to switch back to the free driver, though [18:47] ok i founs sometjin [18:47] i tried ubuntu-drovers devices [18:48] this lists nuveau [18:48] what you can instead do is to purge all *nvidia* packages. [18:48] hello beautiful people [18:48] hi granrojo [18:49] https://pasteboard.co/3QvH4eNXxHIw.jpg [18:49] you think i should purge now? [18:50] croraf: you can try to ubuntu-drivers install the last one listed on your screenshot [18:50] xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [18:51] i do not know whether this will work, though [18:51] if it doesn't you can sudo apt purge *nvidia* [18:51] if it doesn't you can sudo apt purge *nvidia* --autoremove [18:52] for nuveau it said no drivers for installation [18:52] what the /dev/loop mean when I run df -h ??? [18:52] i purged [18:52] https://imgur.com/a/9sqInmS [18:52] croraf: type sync and reboot [18:53] sync outputted nothing [18:53] i did not --autoremive [18:54] you can do so later [18:54] it booted [18:54] granrojo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/906581/what-is-dev-loopx [18:54] thanks a lot [18:54] croraf: you have graphical output again? [18:54] yes [18:55] croraf: you can retry this with a different proprietary driver series. not every driver series will work well with every graphics card, as you have seen. more info coming up... [18:55] !nvidia | croraf [18:55] croraf: Drivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers [18:55] tomreyn: thanks! I saw that explanation but i dont understand it [18:56] tomreyn: I plugged a usb key before taht now I can't do anything with it, it shows on the dekstop but I cant mount it [18:57] granrojo: the simple answer: in your case, all of these "loop" devices are there because of snaps you have installed. does this answer your question, sufficiently? [18:57] tomreyn: snap packages?? [18:57] granrojo: the usb key will be unrelated to these loop devices [18:57] !snap | granrojo [18:57] granrojo: Snaps are containerised software packages similar to Flatpaks and AppImages. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io [18:58] tomreyn: ubottu: Well I deisable snaps packages with systmctl I dont have any anp pacakges installed [18:58] ubuntu supports two types of software packages out of the box now. apt + dpkg for .deb packages, and snap for .snap packages. [18:59] granrojo: your screenshot states otherwise [18:59] tomreyn: mmhhh ok, let me check the current status [19:00] the snap list command lists installed snaps [19:03] tomreyn: and why snap creates more devices when I ru the df command? [19:07] granrojo: snap does not create devices as a result of you running 'df'. they were probably already present before you did. [19:08] tomreyn: yes i know the devices are not creted when i run df, but why snap created devices? [19:09] because snaps are managed using loop devices. [19:09] if you will read up more on snaps you will get a better understanding on it [19:10] if you have a question about how to get a certain task done or about something not working as expected, please provide more details. [19:11] tomreyn great news nvidia-driver-515 seems to work good [19:12] nvidia-driver-520-open was crashing [19:12] I just need to update to latest kernel now to see if it is still working [19:12] i'm not surprised, nvidia is still elarning about this thing called "open source" [19:12] I now got 520 propriatery in the list, 520-open propriater was crashing, but now i have this one without -open [19:13] glad you found a solution that works for you. [19:13] You think if I now install 520 after 515 I'll be able to switch to 515 in the recovery mode? [19:14] switching between different nvidia-* drivers will require either locally cached packages or internet access for downloading them. [19:15] ok, I'll take a risk with 520 (no -open) [19:15] you can always purge again as we did [19:15] which should bring you back to nouveau [19:15] yes, thanks a lot. You are a saviour! [19:16] you're welcome [19:17] I'm a web developer, hopefully now with the best drivers, I'll be able to exploit all the WebGL features :) [19:18] tomreyn: ok thanks! [19:20] you, too, are welcome === michaelschweisth is now known as grnman_ [19:49] tomreyn: This is the status ad what the command list snap returns https://imgur.com/qnYX9Xn === lord_black is now known as lord_daemon [20:13] any ideas why the system is detecting my usb on dekstop (it shows the ion with its size) but I can't mount it [20:13] granrojo: try 'dmesg -w' in the terminal it might show info [20:22] EriC^^_: I get this https://dpaste.com/67AKKDNPC [20:23] and then the command keeps runing, I dont cant have acces to the terminal until i kill the process [20:23] with ctrl C [20:24] granrojo: what does 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' give? [20:25] EriC^^_: FUSE exfat 1.3.0 [20:25] ERROR: unknown entry type 0xd5. [20:26] its a brand new usb key if thats good as extra info [20:27] o/ [20:27] I have my home and root mounted here /dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root 915G 85G 785G 10% / [20:28] granrojo: maybe try to reformat it? [20:28] im wanting to use extundelete to recover a file... however Im a little iffy if I can safely remount this volume as read only [20:29] granrojo: try sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfatprogs [20:30] then try mounting again, if that doesnt work maybe reformat with 'sudo mkfs.exfat /dev/sdb1' [20:31] granrojo: make sure the usb is /dev/sdb it should show up in 'sudo parted -ls' output with its name there [20:31] EriC^^_: sounds like a plan but I dont think I see the defice when I run df -h, have a look https://imgur.com/a/CTMyXvc [20:31] how might I provide internet to vnet7 for my kvm bridge? [20:32] does ubuntu behave well if I remount the root partition as ro? [20:33] or is there a way I can put ubuntu in ro mode quickly using some ubuntu utils systemd? [20:34] hrob: alt+prntscrn+u ? [20:34] !sysrq | hrob [20:34] hrob: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [20:34] maybe 's' then 'u' and dont press 'b' to reboot [20:35] granrojo: not sure what you mean about difference [20:35] EriC^^_: ? [20:35] granrojo: did you run the apt install command? [20:36] ok was wondering if I could keep my desktop environment/session without rebooting. [20:36] oh, you meant 'device' read it difference somehow [20:36] granrojo: it should be in 'sudo parted -ls' [20:37] EriC^^_: ah sorry a typo, the device i meant to say. So sdb1 is my usb key? [20:37] granrojo: i think so, type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' to paste the output and share the termbin link here [20:38] to be sure about the name [20:38] sdb1 would be a partition on a device, sdb would be the device itself. Whether sdb is the USB key or not remains to be determined it looks like. [20:40] EriC^^_: it says sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com [20:40] nc: missing port number [20:40] add 9999 to the end [20:43] EriC^^_: it gives me https://termbin.com/6xus [20:44] granrojo: try "sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfatprogs" [20:46] EriC^^_: Package exfatprogs is not available, but is referred to by another package. [20:46] granrojo: which ubuntu version are you using?' [20:48] EriC^^_: Ubuntu 20.4.5 [20:48] !info exfat-utils focal [20:48] exfat-utils (1.3.0-1, focal): utilities to create, check, label and dump exFAT filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Built by exfat-utils. Size 40 kB / 227 kB [20:48] granrojo: try "sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils" [20:50] EriC^^_: exfat-fuse is already the newest version (1.3.0-1). [20:51] granrojo: ok, try 'sudo mkfs.exfat /dev/sdb1' [20:53] EriC^^_: cool that worked, but how did you know my pendrive was sdb1 when it was showing with the df command? [20:56] granrojo: i didn't, it was in the output of sudo parted -ls [20:57] EriC^^_: ahh what does the command do? [20:58] granrojo: it lists the disks and partitions === Sauvin is now known as s === s is now known as Sauvin [21:00] EriC^^_: alright nice. Thanks a lot for all your help [21:01] granrojo: no problem [21:09] #linux.no [21:09] sorry [21:09] #linux.yes [21:13]