| bittin- | hello | 15:20 |
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| sarnold | good morning bittin- | 15:29 |
| cpaelzer_ | uh sarnold is kind of here ... | 15:29 |
| cpaelzer_ | :-) | 15:29 |
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| sarnold | hmm should I not be, cpaelzer? :) I could probably be talked into returning to bed.. | 15:29 |
| cpaelzer | I considered you in deserved off time more or less until EOY :-) | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | happy to have you around thou | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:30 |
| sarnold | aha! | 15:30 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | hello party people | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | I've seen several bug updates by most o fyou | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | so I hope a lot of things have moved forward | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | let us have a look | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:31 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: added a false positive on the perl case | 15:31 |
| slyon | ack | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | postgresql-15 needs to be promoted | 15:31 |
| joalif | o/ | 15:31 |
| didrocks | o/ | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: I've seen you filed a bug for libnvme | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: is there one coming for libhugetlbfs too? | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: or will that dependency be cut | 15:32 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: I will probably just cut it. It's optional | 15:32 |
| slyon | and the other one is a code-split | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | ok, leaving that to foundations then | 15:32 |
| slyon | I feel like we can just promote libnvme, can we? | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | glm -> highlight.js | 15:32 |
| slyon | as the code as lived in nvme-cli before, which is in main | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | IIRC didrocks wanted to talk/look after that - is that right - if so what is the outcome? | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: as if you have that reasonably outlined in the case we used to give those cases a fast path | 15:33 |
| sarnold | slyon: when I saw some discussion of libnvme split I had a similar thought that we could probably add it without too much trouble; but giving the packaging a glance might still justify the checklist? | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: is the case ready enough for that? | 15:33 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: right, I tried to collect some evidence about that in the corresponding bug report | 15:33 |
| slyon | should be | 15:33 |
| didrocks | on glm, I got in touche with the Mir team | 15:34 |
| didrocks | touch* | 15:34 |
| didrocks | so, basically, it seems the best course of action is to drop libglm-doc to universe | 15:34 |
| didrocks | I asked a finale ACK from the Mir team on Monday | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: I'll give it (libnvme) a safety review and if ok promote it | 15:34 |
| didrocks | didn’t get any feedback yet before proceeding | 15:34 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: thx | 15:34 |
| sarnold | re glm -> highlight.js I have to ask if glm should be demoted, instead; I don't see why it's in main | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | I'll also promote postgres-15 on the same term (just new version of the same) | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: sarnold: glm reason to be in main ... hmm, who sees it first | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.jammy/rdepends/glm/libglm-dev | 15:35 |
| didrocks | yes, so basically build deps from what I saw | 15:36 |
| sarnold | $ apt-rdepends -br libdlm-dev | 15:36 |
| sarnold | E: Reverse build-dependencies are not supported | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.lunar/all+extra | 15:36 |
| didrocks | this probably comes from a time where build-deps were required to be in Main | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | libmirserver-dev | 15:36 |
| sarnold | hah you're all about 40 seconds ahead of me today :) | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.jammy/rdepends/mir/libmirserver-dev | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | libmirserver-dev | mir | Rescued from mir | 15:37 |
| didrocks | and mirtest-dev is in main withut dep | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | TL;DR it needs an extra exclude | 15:37 |
| didrocks | so I can propose them to demote libmirserver-dev | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | yes | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | with an extra exclude it should become a demotion | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | as it isn't dependet, but only rescued | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | once in place, demotion will resolve the current mismatch | 15:38 |
| didrocks | will track that | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | awesome | 15:38 |
| sarnold | cool, thanks :) | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | policykit -> duktape | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | seems jbicha filed a stub MIR for this | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | has that been looked into in depth yet? | 15:39 |
| sarnold | any bets if this will lead to "oh we don't need mirtest-dev anyway, drop it"? :) | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | or can we ignore it until the stub becomes real? | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: I'm betting with, but not against that | 15:39 |
| didrocks | I propose that we wait for the proper MIR to be filed (or not) | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | WFM | 15:39 |
| slyon | ack | 15:39 |
| didrocks | so that it’s analyzed properly | 15:39 |
| sarnold | there's some conversation on duktape on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1972654 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1972654 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "[security review] Sync policykit-1 121+compat0.1-5 (main) from Debian unstable" [Medium, Confirmed] | 15:39 | |
| * bittin- is here now (got a phonecall just before the meeting) | 15:40 | |
| cpaelzer | interesting | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | but I'd still wait for the owning team to fill all details (and even more important intention) into a the MIR bug | 15:41 |
| didrocks | agreed | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | thats it on current mismatches ... | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | next | 15:41 |
| sarnold | jbicha: fyi ^^ :) | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | libnvme we assigned to me above | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | marking it that way ... | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | would others volunteer for the remaining two? | 15:42 |
| joalif | i can have one | 15:42 |
| slyon | me too | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcamera/+bug/1997560 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblc3/+bug/1997578 are up for grab | 15:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997560 in libcamera (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcamera" [Undecided, New] | 15:42 | |
| didrocks | I just have 3 remaining work days before my EOY holidays. So, I can take one, but I don’t commit before EOY | 15:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997578 in liblc3 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] liblc3" [Undecided, New] | 15:42 | |
| slyon | i take libcamera | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 15:42 |
| sarnold | didrocks: nice :) | 15:42 |
| bittin- | liblc3 for joalif or didrocks then? :p | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | both assigned | 15:43 |
| joalif | i'll take the other | 15:43 |
| didrocks | \o/ thanks joalif | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: enjoy the free time | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:43 |
| didrocks | "free" as an entire month to get into 3 days is "fun" :p | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: will deliver the mythical man month | 15:44 |
| sarnold | :( | 15:44 |
| didrocks | ofc, so easy :p | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | a bunch of PCS related updates | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | we subscribed to all packages | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | and we have resolved all open issues | 15:44 |
| sarnold | nice | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | so we "only" wait for security review on a bunch of them now | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | looking to sarnold for an ETA statement in the latter section | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: and I will double check if all former required todo's are resolved - but it looked good so far | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | all other updates are older than a week | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | going on to the security status ... | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: I've bumped the priority onth e PCS cases up - as others might need time after promotion | 15:46 |
| sarnold | unfortunately I'm still just a blur on where we're at -- I don't believe anything was done while I was out, and since we've all got end of year vacation to use, light availability | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | the question for this and other things in the queue is - will this work out | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | or do you need me to escalate things again? | 15:47 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: thanks for bumping the priorities as needed; I don't think we need to panic yet, we'll be back to full in january, assuming we can remember our passwords :) | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: the jira list seems incomplete | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mosh/+bug/1997106 is missing | 15:48 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997106 in mosh (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mosh" [Undecided, New] | 15:48 | |
| slyon | I just finished this earlier today. | 15:48 |
| slyon | not sure if the jira list is automatic? | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | oh so it might be in his inbox | 15:48 |
| sarnold | it is not :( | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | but TL;DR just let us be clear there are 17 review waiting | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | and feature freeze is mid february | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | assuming EOY will not work out | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | that means 6 weeks 17 cases | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | that is 3 per week | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | just to put expectations on load in the right perspective | 15:49 |
| sarnold | zounds | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | which is why I brought it up | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | I'm happy to rely on you sarnold, but you should not need to rely on yourself alone | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: so please reach out to have a few review buddies once 2023 starts | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | ok? | 15:50 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: thanks :) | 15:50 |
| sarnold | february feels *so* close.. | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 15:50 |
| bG9s | in particular that's when the snow might hit more | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | hence I provide pressure now to feel less like a late surprise | 15:51 |
| bG9s | exciting | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | ok, going on | 15:51 |
| sarnold | brr :) | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | nothing special from me | 15:51 |
| bittin- | February is when first real life FOSDEM is in years :) | 15:51 |
| bittin- | nothing from me | 15:51 |
| slyon | noting | 15:51 |
| joalif | nothing | 15:51 |
| bG9s | ehm, nothing | 15:51 |
| sarnold | just a heads up that I've only got ~two weeks or somethingt before eoy holidays, hehe | 15:52 |
| sarnold | that's it from me | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: ok enough for 6 reviews at the expected rate then | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | \o/ | 15:52 |
| sarnold | :D | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | closing it fast calling that a committment | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | ok then, I call it done for today | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | thank you all | 15:52 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 15:52 |
| slyon | thanks cpaelzer, all! | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:52:44 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-11-29-15.30.moin.txt | 15:52 |
| joalif | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 15:52 |
| bG9s | ty for letting me visit, the coffee was nice | 15:52 |
| bittin- | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 15:53 |
| bittin- | sorry for getting a phone call and missing half of the meeting | 15:53 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 15:53 |
| cyphermox | o/ | 20:02 |
| rbasak | o/ | 20:02 |
| rbasak | ItzSwirlz mentioned he's around for a few minutes at the beginning of our meeting time slot. | 20:03 |
| rbasak | Though the request only came in yesterday, so I'm not sure if we're really in a position to respond yet. | 20:03 |
| ItzSwirlz | o/, here until :16. next period starts at :20. I <3 8-hour long school days :P | 20:03 |
| rbasak | Personally, I'd like to hear the release team's recommendation. | 20:03 |
| ItzSwirlz | rbasak: no problem, I didn't realize when I sent it the meeting was today, but I just so happen to be here | 20:03 |
| ItzSwirlz | Embarassingly I did not send an email to release team, forwarding what I sent to TB now | 20:10 |
| ItzSwirlz | o7, gtg | 20:26 |
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