[15:20] <bittin-> hello
[15:29] <sarnold> good morning bittin-
[15:29] <cpaelzer_> uh sarnold is kind of here ...
[15:29] <cpaelzer_> :-)
[15:29] <sarnold> hmm should I not be, cpaelzer? :) I could probably be talked into returning to bed..
[15:30] <cpaelzer> I considered you in deserved off time more or less until EOY :-)
[15:30] <cpaelzer> happy to have you around thou
[15:30] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
[15:30] <sarnold> aha!
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[15:30] <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage
[15:30] <cpaelzer> hello party people
[15:30] <cpaelzer> I've seen several bug updates by most o fyou
[15:30] <cpaelzer> so I hope a lot of things have moved forward
[15:30] <cpaelzer> let us have a look
[15:30] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[15:30] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:30] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:31] <slyon> o/
[15:31] <cpaelzer> slyon: added a false positive on the perl case
[15:31] <slyon> ack
[15:31] <cpaelzer> postgresql-15 needs to be promoted
[15:31] <joalif> o/
[15:31] <didrocks> o/
[15:32] <cpaelzer> slyon: I've seen you filed a bug for libnvme
[15:32] <cpaelzer> slyon: is there one coming for libhugetlbfs too?
[15:32] <cpaelzer> slyon: or will that dependency be cut
[15:32] <slyon> cpaelzer: I will probably just cut it. It's optional
[15:32] <slyon> and the other one is a code-split
[15:32] <cpaelzer> ok, leaving that to foundations then
[15:32] <slyon> I feel like we can just promote libnvme, can we?
[15:32] <cpaelzer> glm -> highlight.js
[15:32] <slyon> as the code as lived in nvme-cli before, which is in main
[15:32] <cpaelzer> IIRC didrocks wanted to talk/look after that - is that right - if so what is the outcome?
[15:33] <cpaelzer> slyon: as if you have that reasonably outlined in the case we used to give those cases a fast path
[15:33] <sarnold> slyon: when I saw some discussion of libnvme split I had a similar thought that we could probably add it without too much trouble; but giving the packaging a glance might still justify the checklist?
[15:33] <cpaelzer> slyon: is the case ready enough for that?
[15:33] <slyon> cpaelzer: right, I tried to collect some evidence about that in the corresponding bug report
[15:33] <slyon> should be
[15:34] <didrocks> on glm, I got in touche with the Mir team
[15:34] <didrocks> touch*
[15:34] <didrocks> so, basically, it seems the best course of action is to drop libglm-doc to universe
[15:34] <didrocks> I asked a finale ACK from the Mir team on Monday
[15:34] <cpaelzer> slyon: I'll give it (libnvme) a safety review and if ok promote it
[15:34] <didrocks> didn’t get any feedback yet before proceeding
[15:34] <slyon> cpaelzer: thx
[15:34] <sarnold> re glm -> highlight.js I have to ask if glm should be demoted, instead; I don't see why it's in main
[15:35] <cpaelzer> I'll also promote postgres-15 on the same term (just new version of the same)
[15:35] <cpaelzer> didrocks: sarnold: glm reason to be in main ... hmm, who sees it first
[15:35] <cpaelzer> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.jammy/rdepends/glm/libglm-dev
[15:36] <didrocks> yes, so basically build deps from what I saw
[15:36] <sarnold> $ apt-rdepends -br libdlm-dev
[15:36] <sarnold> E: Reverse build-dependencies are not supported
[15:36] <cpaelzer> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.lunar/all+extra
[15:36] <didrocks> this probably comes from a time where build-deps were required to be in Main
[15:36] <cpaelzer> libmirserver-dev
[15:36] <sarnold> hah you're all about 40 seconds ahead of me today :)
[15:37] <cpaelzer> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.jammy/rdepends/mir/libmirserver-dev
[15:37] <cpaelzer> libmirserver-dev                                            | mir                                            | Rescued from mir
[15:37] <didrocks> and mirtest-dev is in main withut dep
[15:37] <cpaelzer> TL;DR it needs an extra exclude
[15:37] <didrocks> so I can propose them to demote libmirserver-dev
[15:37] <cpaelzer> yes
[15:38] <cpaelzer> with an extra exclude it should become a demotion
[15:38] <cpaelzer> as it isn't dependet, but only rescued
[15:38] <cpaelzer> once in place, demotion will resolve the current mismatch
[15:38] <didrocks> will track that
[15:38] <cpaelzer> awesome
[15:38] <sarnold> cool, thanks :)
[15:38] <cpaelzer> policykit -> duktape
[15:38] <cpaelzer> seems jbicha filed a stub MIR for this
[15:39] <cpaelzer> has that been looked into in depth yet?
[15:39] <sarnold> any bets if this will lead to "oh we don't need mirtest-dev anyway, drop it"? :)
[15:39] <cpaelzer> or can we ignore it until the stub becomes real?
[15:39] <cpaelzer> sarnold: I'm betting with, but not against that
[15:39] <didrocks> I propose that we wait for the proper MIR to be filed (or not)
[15:39] <cpaelzer> WFM
[15:39] <slyon> ack
[15:39] <didrocks> so that it’s analyzed properly
[15:39] <sarnold> there's some conversation on duktape on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1972654
[15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1972654 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "[security review] Sync policykit-1 121+compat0.1-5 (main) from Debian unstable" [Medium, Confirmed]
[15:40]  * bittin- is here now (got a phonecall just before the meeting)
[15:40] <cpaelzer> interesting
[15:41] <cpaelzer> but I'd still wait for the owning team to fill all details (and even more important intention) into a the MIR bug
[15:41] <didrocks> agreed
[15:41] <cpaelzer> thats it on current mismatches ...
[15:41] <cpaelzer> next
[15:41] <sarnold> jbicha: fyi ^^  :)
[15:41] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:41] <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[15:41] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:41] <cpaelzer> libnvme we assigned to me above
[15:41] <cpaelzer> marking it that way ...
[15:42] <cpaelzer> would others volunteer for the remaining two?
[15:42] <joalif> i can have one
[15:42] <slyon> me too
[15:42] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcamera/+bug/1997560 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblc3/+bug/1997578 are up for grab
[15:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997560 in libcamera (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcamera" [Undecided, New]
[15:42] <didrocks> I just have 3 remaining work days before my EOY holidays. So, I can take one, but I don’t commit before EOY
[15:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997578 in liblc3 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] liblc3" [Undecided, New]
[15:42] <slyon> i take libcamera
[15:42] <cpaelzer> ok
[15:42] <sarnold> didrocks: nice :)
[15:43] <bittin-> liblc3 for joalif or didrocks then? :p
[15:43] <cpaelzer> both assigned
[15:43] <joalif> i'll take the other
[15:43] <didrocks> \o/ thanks joalif
[15:43] <cpaelzer> didrocks: enjoy the free time
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:43] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:43] <didrocks> "free" as an entire month to get into 3 days is "fun" :p
[15:43] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:44] <cpaelzer> didrocks: will deliver the mythical man month
[15:44] <sarnold> :(
[15:44] <didrocks> ofc, so easy :p
[15:44] <cpaelzer> a bunch of PCS related updates
[15:44] <cpaelzer> we subscribed to all packages
[15:44] <cpaelzer> and we have resolved all open issues
[15:44] <sarnold> nice
[15:45] <cpaelzer> so we "only" wait for security review on a bunch of them now
[15:45] <cpaelzer> looking to sarnold for an ETA statement in the latter section
[15:45] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: and I will double check if all former required todo's are resolved - but it looked good so far
[15:45] <cpaelzer> all other updates are older than a week
[15:46] <cpaelzer> going on to the security status ...
[15:46] <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[15:46] <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[15:46] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:46] <cpaelzer> Internal link
[15:46] <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[15:46] <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[15:46] <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[15:46] <cpaelzer> sarnold: I've bumped the priority onth e PCS cases up - as others might need time after promotion
[15:47] <sarnold> unfortunately I'm still just a blur on where we're at -- I don't believe anything was done while I was out, and since we've all got end of year vacation to use, light availability
[15:47] <cpaelzer> the question for this and other things in the queue is - will this work out
[15:47] <cpaelzer> or do you need me to escalate things again?
[15:48] <sarnold> cpaelzer: thanks for bumping the priorities as needed; I don't think we need to panic yet, we'll be back to full in january, assuming we can remember our passwords :)
[15:48] <cpaelzer> sarnold: the jira list seems incomplete
[15:48] <cpaelzer> sarnold: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mosh/+bug/1997106 is missing
[15:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997106 in mosh (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mosh" [Undecided, New]
[15:48] <slyon> I just finished this earlier today.
[15:48] <slyon> not sure if the jira list is automatic?
[15:48] <cpaelzer> oh so it might be in his inbox
[15:48] <sarnold> it is not :(
[15:49] <cpaelzer> but TL;DR just let us be clear there are 17 review waiting
[15:49] <cpaelzer> and feature freeze is mid february
[15:49] <cpaelzer> assuming EOY will not work out
[15:49] <cpaelzer> that means 6 weeks 17 cases
[15:49] <cpaelzer> that is 3 per week
[15:49] <cpaelzer> just to put expectations on load in the right perspective
[15:49] <sarnold> zounds
[15:50] <cpaelzer> which is why I brought it up
[15:50] <cpaelzer> I'm happy to rely on you sarnold, but you should not need to rely on yourself alone
[15:50] <cpaelzer> sarnold: so please reach out to have a few review buddies once 2023 starts
[15:50] <cpaelzer> ok?
[15:50] <sarnold> cpaelzer: thanks :)
[15:50] <sarnold> february feels *so* close..
[15:50] <cpaelzer> yep
[15:51] <bG9s> in particular that's when the snow might hit more
[15:51] <cpaelzer> hence I provide pressure now to feel less like a late surprise
[15:51] <bG9s> exciting
[15:51] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:51] <cpaelzer> ok, going on
[15:51] <sarnold> brr :)
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:51] <cpaelzer> nothing special from me
[15:51] <bittin-> February is when first real life FOSDEM is in years :)
[15:51] <bittin-> nothing from me
[15:51] <slyon> noting
[15:51] <joalif> nothing
[15:51] <bG9s> ehm, nothing
[15:52] <sarnold> just a heads up that I've only got ~two weeks or somethingt before eoy holidays, hehe
[15:52] <sarnold> that's it from me
[15:52] <cpaelzer> sarnold: ok enough for 6 reviews at the expected rate then
[15:52] <cpaelzer> \o/
[15:52] <sarnold> :D
[15:52] <cpaelzer> closing it fast calling that a committment
[15:52] <cpaelzer> ok then, I call it done for today
[15:52] <cpaelzer> thank you all
[15:52] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:52] <slyon> thanks cpaelzer, all!
[15:52] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:52:44 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-11-29-15.30.moin.txt
[15:52] <joalif> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:52] <bG9s> ty for letting me visit, the coffee was nice
[15:53] <bittin-> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:53] <bittin-> sorry for getting a phone call and missing half of the meeting
[15:53] <didrocks> thanks!
[20:02] <cyphermox> o/
[20:02] <rbasak> o/
[20:03] <rbasak> ItzSwirlz mentioned he's around for a few minutes at the beginning of our meeting time slot.
[20:03] <rbasak> Though the request only came in yesterday, so I'm not sure if we're really in a position to respond yet.
[20:03] <ItzSwirlz> o/, here until :16. next period starts at :20. I <3 8-hour long school days :P
[20:03] <rbasak> Personally, I'd like to hear the release team's recommendation.
[20:03] <ItzSwirlz> rbasak: no problem, I didn't realize when I sent it the meeting was today, but I just so happen to be here
[20:10] <ItzSwirlz> Embarassingly I did not send an email to release team, forwarding what I sent to TB now
[20:26] <ItzSwirlz> o7, gtg