[15:20] hello [15:29] good morning bittin- [15:29] uh sarnold is kind of here ... [15:29] :-) === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [15:29] hmm should I not be, cpaelzer? :) I could probably be talked into returning to bed.. [15:30] I considered you in deserved off time more or less until EOY :-) [15:30] happy to have you around thou [15:30] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [15:30] aha! [15:30] Meeting started at 15:30:21 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:30] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [15:30] Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage [15:30] hello party people [15:30] I've seen several bug updates by most o fyou [15:30] so I hope a lot of things have moved forward [15:30] let us have a look [15:30] #topic current component mismatches [15:30] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [15:30] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [15:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [15:31] o/ [15:31] slyon: added a false positive on the perl case [15:31] ack [15:31] postgresql-15 needs to be promoted [15:31] o/ [15:31] o/ [15:32] slyon: I've seen you filed a bug for libnvme [15:32] slyon: is there one coming for libhugetlbfs too? [15:32] slyon: or will that dependency be cut [15:32] cpaelzer: I will probably just cut it. It's optional [15:32] and the other one is a code-split [15:32] ok, leaving that to foundations then [15:32] I feel like we can just promote libnvme, can we? [15:32] glm -> highlight.js [15:32] as the code as lived in nvme-cli before, which is in main [15:32] IIRC didrocks wanted to talk/look after that - is that right - if so what is the outcome? [15:33] slyon: as if you have that reasonably outlined in the case we used to give those cases a fast path [15:33] slyon: when I saw some discussion of libnvme split I had a similar thought that we could probably add it without too much trouble; but giving the packaging a glance might still justify the checklist? [15:33] slyon: is the case ready enough for that? [15:33] cpaelzer: right, I tried to collect some evidence about that in the corresponding bug report [15:33] should be [15:34] on glm, I got in touche with the Mir team [15:34] touch* [15:34] so, basically, it seems the best course of action is to drop libglm-doc to universe [15:34] I asked a finale ACK from the Mir team on Monday [15:34] slyon: I'll give it (libnvme) a safety review and if ok promote it [15:34] didn’t get any feedback yet before proceeding [15:34] cpaelzer: thx [15:34] re glm -> highlight.js I have to ask if glm should be demoted, instead; I don't see why it's in main [15:35] I'll also promote postgres-15 on the same term (just new version of the same) [15:35] didrocks: sarnold: glm reason to be in main ... hmm, who sees it first [15:35] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.jammy/rdepends/glm/libglm-dev [15:36] yes, so basically build deps from what I saw [15:36] $ apt-rdepends -br libdlm-dev [15:36] E: Reverse build-dependencies are not supported [15:36] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.lunar/all+extra [15:36] this probably comes from a time where build-deps were required to be in Main [15:36] libmirserver-dev [15:36] hah you're all about 40 seconds ahead of me today :) [15:37] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.jammy/rdepends/mir/libmirserver-dev [15:37] libmirserver-dev | mir | Rescued from mir [15:37] and mirtest-dev is in main withut dep [15:37] TL;DR it needs an extra exclude [15:37] so I can propose them to demote libmirserver-dev [15:37] yes [15:38] with an extra exclude it should become a demotion [15:38] as it isn't dependet, but only rescued [15:38] once in place, demotion will resolve the current mismatch [15:38] will track that [15:38] awesome [15:38] cool, thanks :) [15:38] policykit -> duktape [15:38] seems jbicha filed a stub MIR for this [15:39] has that been looked into in depth yet? [15:39] any bets if this will lead to "oh we don't need mirtest-dev anyway, drop it"? :) [15:39] or can we ignore it until the stub becomes real? [15:39] sarnold: I'm betting with, but not against that [15:39] I propose that we wait for the proper MIR to be filed (or not) [15:39] WFM [15:39] ack [15:39] so that it’s analyzed properly [15:39] there's some conversation on duktape on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1972654 [15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1972654 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "[security review] Sync policykit-1 121+compat0.1-5 (main) from Debian unstable" [Medium, Confirmed] [15:40] * bittin- is here now (got a phonecall just before the meeting) [15:40] interesting [15:41] but I'd still wait for the owning team to fill all details (and even more important intention) into a the MIR bug [15:41] agreed [15:41] thats it on current mismatches ... [15:41] next [15:41] jbicha: fyi ^^ :) [15:41] #topic New MIRs [15:41] Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing [15:41] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [15:41] libnvme we assigned to me above [15:41] marking it that way ... [15:42] would others volunteer for the remaining two? [15:42] i can have one [15:42] me too [15:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcamera/+bug/1997560 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liblc3/+bug/1997578 are up for grab [15:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997560 in libcamera (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcamera" [Undecided, New] [15:42] I just have 3 remaining work days before my EOY holidays. So, I can take one, but I don’t commit before EOY [15:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997578 in liblc3 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] liblc3" [Undecided, New] [15:42] i take libcamera [15:42] ok [15:42] didrocks: nice :) [15:43] liblc3 for joalif or didrocks then? :p [15:43] both assigned [15:43] i'll take the other [15:43] \o/ thanks joalif [15:43] didrocks: enjoy the free time [15:43] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions [15:43] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [15:43] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [15:43] "free" as an entire month to get into 3 days is "fun" :p [15:43] hehe [15:44] didrocks: will deliver the mythical man month [15:44] :( [15:44] ofc, so easy :p [15:44] a bunch of PCS related updates [15:44] we subscribed to all packages [15:44] and we have resolved all open issues [15:44] nice [15:45] so we "only" wait for security review on a bunch of them now [15:45] looking to sarnold for an ETA statement in the latter section [15:45] kanashiro[m]: and I will double check if all former required todo's are resolved - but it looked good so far [15:45] all other updates are older than a week [15:46] going on to the security status ... [15:46] #topic MIR related Security Review Queue [15:46] Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? [15:46] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [15:46] Internal link [15:46] - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect [15:46] - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much [15:46] #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 [15:46] sarnold: I've bumped the priority onth e PCS cases up - as others might need time after promotion [15:47] unfortunately I'm still just a blur on where we're at -- I don't believe anything was done while I was out, and since we've all got end of year vacation to use, light availability [15:47] the question for this and other things in the queue is - will this work out [15:47] or do you need me to escalate things again? [15:48] cpaelzer: thanks for bumping the priorities as needed; I don't think we need to panic yet, we'll be back to full in january, assuming we can remember our passwords :) [15:48] sarnold: the jira list seems incomplete [15:48] sarnold: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mosh/+bug/1997106 is missing [15:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997106 in mosh (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mosh" [Undecided, New] [15:48] I just finished this earlier today. [15:48] not sure if the jira list is automatic? [15:48] oh so it might be in his inbox [15:48] it is not :( [15:49] but TL;DR just let us be clear there are 17 review waiting [15:49] and feature freeze is mid february [15:49] assuming EOY will not work out [15:49] that means 6 weeks 17 cases [15:49] that is 3 per week [15:49] just to put expectations on load in the right perspective [15:49] zounds [15:50] which is why I brought it up [15:50] I'm happy to rely on you sarnold, but you should not need to rely on yourself alone [15:50] sarnold: so please reach out to have a few review buddies once 2023 starts [15:50] ok? [15:50] cpaelzer: thanks :) [15:50] february feels *so* close.. [15:50] yep [15:51] in particular that's when the snow might hit more [15:51] hence I provide pressure now to feel less like a late surprise [15:51] exciting [15:51] hehe [15:51] ok, going on [15:51] brr :) [15:51] #topic Any other business? [15:51] nothing special from me [15:51] February is when first real life FOSDEM is in years :) [15:51] nothing from me [15:51] noting [15:51] nothing [15:51] ehm, nothing [15:52] just a heads up that I've only got ~two weeks or somethingt before eoy holidays, hehe [15:52] that's it from me [15:52] sarnold: ok enough for 6 reviews at the expected rate then [15:52] \o/ [15:52] :D [15:52] closing it fast calling that a committment [15:52] ok then, I call it done for today [15:52] thank you all [15:52] thanks cpaelzer, all :) [15:52] thanks cpaelzer, all! [15:52] #endmeeting [15:52] Meeting ended at 15:52:44 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-11-29-15.30.moin.txt [15:52] thanks cpaelzer, all :) [15:52] ty for letting me visit, the coffee was nice [15:53] thanks cpaelzer, all :) [15:53] sorry for getting a phone call and missing half of the meeting [15:53] thanks! [20:02] o/ [20:02] o/ [20:03] ItzSwirlz mentioned he's around for a few minutes at the beginning of our meeting time slot. [20:03] Though the request only came in yesterday, so I'm not sure if we're really in a position to respond yet. [20:03] o/, here until :16. next period starts at :20. I <3 8-hour long school days :P [20:03] Personally, I'd like to hear the release team's recommendation. [20:03] rbasak: no problem, I didn't realize when I sent it the meeting was today, but I just so happen to be here [20:10] Embarassingly I did not send an email to release team, forwarding what I sent to TB now [20:26] o7, gtg