[00:34] <Sabotender> I've been doing some research and this might be what I need to use to configure things, but is there someone who can take a quick look and confirm if this is compatible with my intended project: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[00:37] <FNAShinobi> Is there a way for my wnic to provide a virtualized interface in addition to the physical one?
[00:38] <Sabotender> it seems to provide a complete walk-through including installing the utility to broadcast a ssid and bridging two connections because the adapter that actually has an internet connection would need to be connected
[00:39] <sarnold> FNAShinobi: hmm, what are you trying to do?
[00:41] <FNAShinobi> sarnold: join two different wireless networks with one wnic.
[00:41] <Sabotender> create a wireless access point firewall that I can personally manage no matter which wireless ap I might be connected to. the prime focus here is firewall. not every client device has access to their own host files, unfortunately.
[00:43] <Sabotender> so, it takes one wireless internet connection with a wireless adapter then rebroadcasts this internet connection via a bridged additional wireless adapter
[00:43] <Sabotender> I have two wireless adapters here
[00:44] <FNAShinobi> I know OpenWRT can create two virtual access points from the same physical AP
[00:44] <sarnold> FNAShinobi: so, I think that depends upon your wifi nic; run iw list and look for the "valid interface combinations:" section
[00:44] <Sabotender> what is that
[00:45] <Sabotender> oh is that something you install on an existing wireless router?
[00:45] <sarnold> Sabotender: that guide looks reasonable enough -- except that it references /etc/network/interfaces, which hasn't really been an ubuntu thing for a few years. it'll take some work to adapt this to modern stuff.
[00:46] <Sabotender> that is an option but I have an unused Odroid XU lite here that would be a perfect candidate for this project
[00:46] <Sabotender> its hardware is found in actual wireless routers.
[00:47] <Sabotender> lol now you are scaring me hehe
[00:50] <sarnold> Sabotender: unfortunately that's the way it is with a lot of stuff on the wiki :( for a few years it was *horribly* slow and so no one made fixes as they found problems and now it's been years of not getting updates..
[00:52] <Sabotender> this adapter supports soft ap mode
[00:54] <Sabotender> *these adapters, since they are identical
[00:59] <sarnold> Sabotender: good good :) that just leaves the rest of it, hehe
[01:24] <Sabotender> 22.04 lts is the Ubuntu version I'm using. Hope its not too old/outdated
[01:25] <sarnold> Sabotender: that's a good choice; it's the instructions that are outdated
[01:27] <Sabotender> oh the architecture
[01:37] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I'm running ubuntu 22.04. The mariadb server on my system stopped working so I purged and reinstalled it. I'm now trying to restore backed-up databases. The databases directory is /var/lib/mysql, so I copied that directory.
[01:38] <bobdobbs> I've copied on the backed-up databases back to the restored /var/lib/mysql directory. But both applications and mysql commands are having trouble reading the restored database
[01:38] <Sabotender> wow  these adapters support managed and ap modes including a long list of other features
[01:42] <morgan-u2> I have 22.04. chrome quits on the regular. Things are slow now with just hexchat and discord. oops I clicked and restarted chrome. WHat Happened? How can we tell? Can I do anything?  This -chrome quitting - is new. (before it would just slow everything down to a freeze.)  OyVey!
[01:52] <sarnold> bobdobbs: hold on a bit..
[01:53] <sarnold> bobdobbs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mariadb-10.3/+bug/1997916
[01:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1997916 in mariadb-10.3 (Ubuntu) "MariaDB won't start with SSL errors after security update to 1:10.3.37-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 (focal, security regression)" [High, Won't Fix]
[01:53] <sarnold> bobdobbs: does this look familiar?
[01:54] <sarnold> morgan-u2: try keeping a terminal with 'journalctl -f' running and see what happens
[01:57] <bobdobbs> hai sarnold
[01:59] <bobdobbs> sarnold: no, that isn't it.
[01:59] <bobdobbs> sarnold: This is a local maria install. On my local webdev machine. Not on the net. So I don't have an ssl configuration for it.
[01:59] <sarnold> bobdobbs: aha, dang
[02:01] <bobdobbs> It's kind of annoying. I had a complete catastropic mariadb meltdown a few months ago as well. I managed to get online help from a sysadmin who knows the Deep Magic. But there's no way I can figure this out by myself.
[02:31] <jhutchins> bobdobbs: For most of the more modern MySQL databases, just copying the files isn't enough.  You have to run backups, then restore the backups.
[02:32] <jhutchins> bobdobbs: There's an additional file - and of course I can't think of the name or location two years later and late in the evening.
[02:32] <jhutchins> bobdobbs: Do some searches on recovering the type of database that you used.
[02:33] <sarnold> "what does mariadb call a wal file" or something? :)
[02:34] <jhutchins> Yeah, something.
[02:35] <jhutchins> We had a really bad people-got-fired time trying to migrate some 5.1 databases that hadn't actually been updated to 5.1 standards.
[02:36] <sarnold> yikes
[02:59] <bobdobbs> jhutchins: when you say "run the backups and then restore them" - are you envisaging the possibility that backups can be created even when the server can read the databases?
[03:00] <bobdobbs> My knowledge of db administration is very surface-level. I can't see how that works.
[03:02] <rob0> no. You need to have the mysql/maria server running to be able to do a dump.
[03:03] <bobdobbs> k. I've got the server running again. But even trying to dump a db produces that error
[03:03] <rob0> yes, you needed to do that before the db was corrupted :(
[03:04] <bobdobbs> I don't know if the databases were ever corrupted. Unless that's what the error is telling me?
[03:04] <rob0> A simpler SQL implementation that does not rely on a server is sqlite3. It's adequate in many read-mostly situations.
[03:06] <rob0> Yes, you can't simply copy the db directory, as jhutchins said.
[03:07] <bobdobbs> I see
[03:07] <rob0> This isn't really Ubuntu-specific, so you might do better in a place like #mysql
[03:08] <rob0> maybe someone there will know how to recover it from where you are now
[03:08] <rob0> (I don't)
[03:08] <bobdobbs> k. I'll try there
[03:08] <bobdobbs> thanks
[04:15] <JohnnyonFlame> Hello, how am I supposed to package a lib so that cmake installs multiarch bits correct? e.g. I have a .pc file I want on the right folder
[04:19] <zterm86>  /msg alis LIST test
[05:02] <KBar> While refreshing Firefox snap, it errored out on the last step: 'Handling re-refresh of "firefox" as needed'. Does it rerun itself automatically or am I supposed to run some command?
[05:22] <arraybolt3> KBar: What was the error?
[05:29] <KBar> arraybolt3 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yt8khfvNG5/
[05:29] <KBar> 2022-11-30T09:56:58+05:00 ERROR Post https://api.snapcraft.io/v2/snaps/refresh: dial tcp: lookup api.snapcraft.io: no such host
[05:33] <KBar> I think there was a command to "replay" a change?
[05:37] <Flotsamm> hello, is PowerBI available for ubuntu 22.04 LTS or are there any alternatives?
[05:48] <marcopolo1_> Where will the iso go if i curl iso > iso
[05:51] <arraybolt3> marcopolo1_: It will become a file named "iso" in the current folder.
[05:51] <arraybolt3> So if you're in your home folder, you will be left with a file named "iso" in "/home/<username>".
[05:51] <arraybolt3> (Where <username> is your username.)
[06:44] <morgan-u2> sarnold, I  will do -- $ journalctl -f   what do I do with this after chrome quits again?  I might have to ask you this twice. (I will search back for my nick.)
[06:58] <thomasd13> Good morning guys. I have a little problem with my cross-debugger (gdb) built by yocto: When I try to execute it, it says: error while loading shared libraries: libncursesw.so.5: cannot open shared object file
[06:58] <thomasd13> But the shared library "libncursesw.so.5" is installed. And if I'm doing an "ldd gdb" it also gets listed by its full path
[06:58] <thomasd13> I've moved from Lubuntu 18.04 to 22.04. At 18.04 it just worked as expected. Has anyone an idea whats wrong here?
[06:59] <thomasd13> This log explains in detail: https://dpaste.org/vtYPe
[06:59] <arraybolt3> thomasd13: To be clear, you're building gdb from source using yocto?
[06:59] <thomasd13> arraybolt3, yes
[07:01] <thomasd13> The same gdb binary works on lubuntu 18.04, butn ot on 22.04. I dont understand why it does not find the libncursesw.so.5
[07:02] <arraybolt3> thomasd13: You might need to rebuild it on 22.04 if you're using the exact same binary as before. Is there a reason that gdb from the Ubuntu repositories isn't working for you?
[07:04] <thomasd13> arraybolt3, I need a cross toolchain, which runs on a normal intel 64 bit CPU, but builds my software for AArch64 Arm processor. To debug the stuff, I also need the correct gdb for it. Thats why I rely on yocto stuff
[07:06] <arraybolt3> thomasd13: Ah. Is it possible that the soname of the library is no longer the same?
[07:06] <thomasd13> arraybolt3, I dont think that this should be necessary. The shared lib is in the correct place, its in the correct version, and its in the correct architecture
[07:07] <thomasd13> arraybolt3, no, its exactly the same. I checked it also on my working lubuntu 18.04 image
[07:15] <thomasd13> Okay, I think I found the issue (or more an hint) with strace
[07:15] <thomasd13> thanks for jumping in arraybolt3 :)
[07:15] <arraybolt3> Glad to at least try to help!
[07:57] <hiya> unknown time until fully charged <-- I get this and my charging is stuck at 99%, its a brand new laptop thinkpad, also power stats is a bit weird
[07:57] <hiya> Can you take a look?
[07:58] <hiya> When I take the AC adapter out and plugin, it says 'Full charged' for a moment and then goes back to unknown time until full
[08:03] <elias_a> hiya: This is due to the hardware and because the battery is new.
[08:04] <hiya> elias_a: So what to do then? in bios it shows 100% charged :(
[08:04] <elias_a> hiya: New batteries require usually a few charge discharge cycles get full capacity.
[08:05] <hiya> elias_a: https://share.riseup.net/#rhslfk1cuQkuGTtOGKN8Rw
[08:05] <hiya> elias_a: but it use to show 100% correctly before for like first 5-6 charge
[08:06] <hiya> only until recently after I tried F37, this bug appeared, it showed 97% fully charged there or 99% full charged and stuff
[08:06] <hiya> Design and Energy difference are there in power stats
[08:06] <hiya> I think that is causing it
[08:06] <hiya> It is overcharging
[08:08] <elias_a> hiya: Nope. What the numbers tell you is that your battery has more capacity than design (specified) capacity.
[08:08] <elias_a> This is not an Ubuntu issue, though.
[08:09] <hiya> Omg, see it is 100% charged now
[08:09] <hiya> Randomly after a while
[08:09] <hiya> :(
[08:09] <hiya> What is going on
[08:09] <hiya> iCry
[08:09] <hiya> elias_a: so it is not a gnu/linux issue? But bios shows it correctly only?
[08:09] <elias_a> hiya: The last mWh:s are charged very slowly with trickle charge.
[08:10] <hiya> ok :) So my battery is all good? I need not cry?
[08:10] <elias_a> hiya: Your battery is oustanding.
[08:10] <hiya> I am getting supreme performance on power saver mode, it runs for ~12h
[08:10] <hiya> MBP 16" level on T16 AMD :P
[08:10] <elias_a> outstanding... :)
[08:13] <hiya> elias_a: but this last 1% makes me nervous
[08:14] <hiya> Is Linux kernel 6 coming to 22.10?
[08:16] <elias_a> hiya: That 1% difference is caused by the fact that boot process of your computer consumes more power than when just looking at BIOS with virtually no comsumption.
[08:19] <hiya> hmmm
[08:19] <elias_a> The AC adapter is not necessarilya able to push enough amps for both boot and charge.
[08:20] <node1> hello
[08:20] <hiya> Okay
[08:20] <node1> What could be the issue? https://pastebin.com/raw/XeLFvnKh
[08:20] <elias_a> And as I see o hint in your picture that it is a Lenovo laptop, i have to say this typical charging behaviour of Lenovo.
[08:21] <hiya> elias_a: I see. It is my first thinkpad in life. I bought by selling 1 kidney :P
[08:21] <hiya> I prefer GNU/Linux over macOS
[08:36] <Diagon> 22.04 with nvidia dGPU & drivers. Nvidia Settings >> X Server Display Config - shows no sign of display connected to mDP. Thoughts?
[09:41] <medi> medi
[09:49] <tangarora> maybe you are logged in to a wayland session instead of an X session?
[09:49] <tangarora> wayland is default for many distros now.
[09:49] <tangarora> I have noticed limited support for the NVidia tool in wayland.
[09:57] <Sabotender> yep, I need to configure this system to automatically log in during start up, heh
[11:04] <Sabotender> ugh. why can't this ever be a simple process
[11:08] <dTal> so, my soundcard recently spontaneously disappeared from my workstation
[11:09] <dTal> It's the built-in audio to the motherboard, "25:00.4 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller"
[11:09] <dTal> It shows up on lspci but not in /dev/snd or anywhere else
[11:09] <dTal> when I try to do "modprobe snd_hda_intel" I get "modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-48-generic"
[11:10] <dTal> I guess some sort of borked update?
[11:10] <ravage> the current 22.04 kernel version is 5.15.0-53
[11:14] <Diagon> tangarora / with nvidia drivers, ubuntu is automatically set to use X.
[11:30] <JakePsydon> Greetings from Athens
[11:31] <JakePsydon> Do you think 22.04 is buggy?
[12:40] <oerheks>  /clear
[12:59] <tangarora> I have never had any trouble with Ubuntu in the last 8 years on multiple devices. It just works.
[13:00] <tangarora> Though sometimes when vendors do some strange things, using strange chipsets, to save a buck or two... problems may occur.
[13:03] <tangarora> Lenovo, and most Dell models work without a problem... mostly so does HP, but sometimes they do have issues like with the mobile data chipset. Where as Dell and Lenovo use USB emulation in their WWAN hardware HP did not; requiring a highly speciffic driver for it... that ofcourse does not exist for linux.
[13:04] <tangarora> For a seamless experience (like if you buy a laptop with os installed)... buy one with linux installed. You have several vendors that deliver Linux preinstalled. Even Dell does.
[13:09] <weq> Anyone have a POC of installing ubuntu with LUKS+TPM during an automated installation process...?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:58] <SteelRose> Hi BluesKaj
[13:58] <BluesKaj> hi again SteelRose
[13:58] <SteelRose> :-)
[14:47] <ThePendulum> 'lo, wondering if anyone else has had a lot of issues with the recent nautilus update, or if it's just this particular installation. what comes to mind: scrolling up keeps jumping to the bottom, lots of total crashes especially in remote directories, can no longer copy text from other windows when renaming files, the bookmarks refuses to let me open the same location in two different tabs; I have to
[14:47] <ThePendulum> browse one of them away first
[15:03] <bancroft> is there a way to list the last things the OOMKiller killed even if it's scripts and not services?
[15:09] <pavlos> grep -i 'killed process' /var/log/syslog
[15:10] <SteelRose> bancroft: it's reported in the kernel log
[15:10] <SteelRose> so, what pavlos said
[15:10] <bancroft> great thank you!
[15:10] <respawn> Weird Al - Headline News
[15:11] <leftyfb> respawn: can we help you with something?
[15:11] <respawn> ups sorry
[15:19] <snow_richard> hi
[15:20] <snow_richard> I rebooted my router so I guess I ghosted rssnow1
[15:22] <leftyfb> snow_richard: /join #libera for help with IRC
[15:23] <snow_richard> i used to use freenode before everyone left lol
[15:24] <snow_richard> i am in a 22.0.4 virtualbox
[15:24] <snow_richard> the machine is windows 10
[15:25] <leftyfb> !discuss | snow_richard
[15:25] <snow_richard> I did have one question.
[15:25] <snow_richard> in Virtualbox, and hyper-v virtual machines
[15:26] <snow_richard> its not booted, so snapd doesn work
[15:26] <snow_richard> can't connect to socke
[15:26] <leftyfb> snow_richard: can you elaborate on "not booted"?
[15:27] <snow_richard> if you use hyper-v example, when you try to
[15:27] <snow_richard> install a snap you get a message about not being able to connect to the snapd server socket
[15:28] <snow_richard> canonical has this hyper-v based virtual machine
[15:28] <snow_richard> it doesn't run systemd\
[15:29] <snow_richard> or any other standard kind of startups
[15:29] <leftyfb> snow_richard: can you link to this image you're referring to?
[15:29] <pavlos> sudo systemctl status snapd.service
[15:30] <leftyfb> pavlos: "doesn't run systemd"
[15:30] <snow_richard> actually i disabled the hyper-v because it wasn't
[15:30] <leftyfb> snow_richard: ok, we can't troubleshoot an environment that doesn't exist
[15:30] <snow_richard> that useful lots of startup time.  Virtual box is working well now I just think snapd is delayed in starting on it but eventually it does
[15:32] <snow_richard> anyway I think I have registered on the canonical forum so I could ask there if I want
[15:37] <hggdh> this sounds more like a WSL install (which did not have systemd until about a month ago)
[16:08] <Sabotender> I completed the steps defined in the  document for configuring an access point but there is now no connections, and nmcli con show does not show any device that is bound with an ID such as wlan0, etc. is there any other place where this info might e displayed?
[16:10] <rob0> is this AP using hostapd?
[16:10] <Sabotender> yes
[16:12] <rob0> your AP is configured by NM? I wouldn't think that makes sense. Typically it should be a static IP configured the old way.
[16:14] <Sabotender> but only one adapter I wanted to e configured using that. I wasn't aware that I could use my exxisting configuration with the static IP I set using the mate GUI advanced network connection section
[16:14] <Sabotender> that's how I configured the static IP
[16:14] <Sabotender> since I couldn't do it using nmcli
[16:21] <Sabotender> I need to determine how these wireless nics are assigned , theres no data with this info. I thought it would e wlan0 and wlan1
[16:23] <rob0> "ip addr ; ip link ; iwconfig" to a paste site
[16:30] <Sabotender> oh that might e difficult since this odroid has no internet connection now and I would need to type it manually . just a moment please
[16:36] <rob0> ugh, sorry
[16:43] <rob0> I guess you could take a picture and post that?
[16:43] <rob0> normally I don't care for that :)
[16:44] <EagleOwl> NickH Awesome help with recovering that file. Thanks tons!
[16:47] <bfortified> do cloud-init module commands get run in the order they are defined in the user-data files? Wondering if it matters if `package_update` is run before or after a PPA is added.
[17:03] <Sabotender> rob0:  https://pastebin.com/VHW28uVM
[17:08] <Sabotender> I think I should had connected both adapters first before configuration, and gone from there. I already configured port forwarding and installed dhcp....which failed according to the log
[17:11] <Sabotender> I may need to start over with a fresh image but I am so disappointed because I did so much
[17:12] <Sabotender> how will I at least export the device driver so I won't need to compile that again? that was a royal pain
[17:15] <bumblefuzz> if I just ran a simple `rm filename` on an SSD, what's the best way to get that file back?
[17:15] <bumblefuzz> or can I
[17:15] <bumblefuzz> ?
[17:16] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: the best way is using your backup
[17:16] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: the 2nd best is with a tool like "photorec" while mounting the filesystem read-only using a live usb
[17:17] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: note: the latter is not guaranteed
[17:19] <Sabotender> hmm I can just remove all the packages that I used for this thing to try to roll back everything
[17:23] <pavlos> bumblefuzz: if you remove it via the File Manager, you can find it in Trash but if you remove with rm, it is gone.
[17:23] <bumblefuzz> there is no recovery option?
[17:23] <jhutchins> bumblefuzz: Only if you set one up.
[17:23] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: no
[17:24] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: well, yes. It's called backups
[17:25] <leftyfb> bumblefuzz: or a filesystem that supports snapshots
[17:25] <jhutchins> You can set up "trashcan" systems with many of the file managers, but they don't often apply to console commands.
[17:26] <pavlos> you can alias 'rm' to 'rm -i' so it will ask you, do you want to remove file?
[17:26] <pavlos> eg. touch buzz; rm -i buzz
[17:29] <jhutchins> Sure, you could take a vacation day during the trip, tag it on at the end or somethnig.
[17:29] <jhutchins> Sure, you could take a vacation day during the trip, tag it on at the end or somethnig.
[17:29] <jhutchins> (Sorry, irssi buffer still wonky.)
[17:29] <jhutchins> Photorec or ddrescue are about the only things you can do _after_ you've deleted something.
[17:39] <bumblefuzz> so, there aren't any file recovery programs that work on SSD'S?
[17:39] <bumblefuzz> I already tried testdisk and it didn't recover anything
[17:40] <lotuspsychj3> did you photorec the whole drive bumblefuzz ?
[17:40] <bumblefuzz> I used testdisk
[17:41] <bumblefuzz> I couldn't figure out how to use photorec
[17:42] <bumblefuzz> `sudo apt install photorec` doesn't work
[17:42] <lotuspsychj3> bumblefuzz: photorec is a part of testdisk, sudo photorec
[17:43] <lotuspsychj3> bumblefuzz: then choose the filetypes you want to recover and the important part a media to recover to, another drive then the one you recover
[17:44] <bumblefuzz> and if nothing comes up?
[17:44] <bumblefuzz> I literally just deleted it
[17:45] <lotuspsychj3> bumblefuzz: i never seen a drive yet, that photorec didnt find files to recover from
[17:45] <rob0> Sabotender: your paste is 404, expired too soon?
[17:46] <bumblefuzz> lotuspsychj3 nothing is appearing is photorec
[17:46] <rob0> Like others, I try to work in IRC between $dayjob tasks.
[17:58] <Sabotender> zomg Ijust discovered something
[18:00] <Sabotender> I removed all of those packages that were outlined in that guide, and cleared the horrible port forwarding thing and reconfigured the wireless adapter with the first removed to restore internet connectivity. connected remotely via ssh and then inserted the second adapter, checked status via nmcli and lo and behold I see wlan0 and wlan1
[18:01] <Sabotender> and so theres a significant problem with this configuration guide somewhere
[18:04] <Gabriel> hola
[18:09] <Sabotender> so now I have questions.  is the mate connection mamager compatible with hostap , and is it possible to bridge two wireless adapters together, and is there a way to force the ate connection manager to ignore wlan1 so it won't manage it at all or is there a way to remove the mate gui connection manager so I can use nmcli instead?
[18:11] <rob0> It is possible to bridge multiple network adapters. Most consumer routers do this with Ethernet+802.11. You can bridge two 802.11 interfaces, but I'd wonder why you'd want to do that?
[18:12] <rob0> I doubt the GUI thing is your problem, but I do not know anything about it.
[18:13] <rob0> Did we ever get to what the ultimate goal is here?
[18:14] <Sabotender> no I completely lost internet connectivity and wlan0 and wlan1 vanished from discovery
[18:16] <Sabotender> oh one more question, one wireless adapter needs to connect to a different distant access point to get an IP and provide internet connection for the other wireless adapter, which is going to be operating as a standalone access point
[18:17] <Sabotender> I'm trying to create a firewall which I can manage for multiple connecting clients
[18:21] <Sven_vB> Hi! I'm trying to set up Ubuntu focal with multiple user accounts, centralizing most user session settings but allowing for customization where needed. The traditional way seems to be to copy full sets of config at account creation time, via /etc/skel or other means. However, I'd like to have changes in default settings to continuously propagate to all users who don't have their own opinion on a setting (e.g. what background image and mouse pointer
[18:21] <Sven_vB> texture). I read that at least for openbox and xfce, I should thus configure /etc/xdg/{openbox,xfce4} rather than /etc/skel. However, /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml advises "Do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on install. Copy the file to $HOME/.config/openbox/ instead." So am I again limited to an all-or-nothing approach to settings propagation? What exactly does it mean by "install"?
[18:40] <Sven_vB> are there Desktop Environments that can have ordered priority pluggable config files where later settings overwrite earlier ones? much like in systemd.
[19:01] <alkisg1> Sven_vB: ls /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ ==> the structured settings are there, with priorities and all
[19:22] <Sven_vB> alkisg1, thanks!
[19:23] <alkisg1> 👍️
[19:26] <Sven_vB> alkisg1, I can't find a file for xfce4 display power settings though. does it mean I have to create it, or am I looking in the wrong place?
[19:27] <Sven_vB> same with panel settings
[19:30] <alkisg1> Sven_vB: I'm not using xfce, but the typical way is:
[19:31] <alkisg1> You run dconf watch / to watch for gsettings changes; then you go to e.g. change the wallpaper; and the watch tells you which setting was changed,
[19:31] <alkisg1> then you grep -r in that directory to locate the change if you wish, along with the others; and you can add your own files there to override the defaults
[19:46] <Sven_vB> alkisg1, will try, thanks!
[20:32] <tiago> hello
[20:34] <rrr> holla
[20:49] <Guest67> hi all
[20:49] <Guest67> what performance enhancements for linux are worthwhile anyone any clue?
[20:50] <rob0> That would depend on what you are trying to do with it. Also, that doesn't sound like an Ubuntu-specific question.
[20:50] <Guest67> debian. almost same right
[20:51] <Guest67> im building a setup and trying to get some further ideas for including in it. so any suggestions are welcome
[20:51] <arraybolt3> Guest67: You might find more info in #debian. Ubuntu is based on debian but significantly different from it, so advice that works on Ubuntu may not apply to Debian.
[20:52] <rob0> Best way to improve performance in Linux is to give it really good hardware and lots of RAM.
[20:53] <arraybolt3> And avoid GNOME. (That's my experience anyway.)
[20:53] <Eickmeyer> #debian is on irc.oftc.net
[20:53] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: They have a channel here too.
[20:53] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: It's unofficial.
[20:54] <Guest67> i just ask around in any group. linux optimizations are same all over
[20:54] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: Ah, didn't know that.
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> !debian
[20:54] <arraybolt3> Guest67: That's not necessarily true.
[20:54] <Guest67> well i have my setup im working on here https://github.com/thanasxda/basic-linux-setup/blob/master/init.sh if anyone catches anything thats not in let me know
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> Guest67: We do not support Debian here. Sorry.
[20:54] <arraybolt3> Packages in Ubuntu may have differences or optimizations that Debian doesn't have, and vice versa.
[21:04] <kilbith> hey, noob question: how to disable nouveau and use the intel gpu only on ubuntu 22.10 please?
[21:05] <Guest67> x21="$( if dmesg | grep -q nouvaeu ; then echo " nouveau.modeset=0 nvidia-drm.modeset=1 nvidia-uvm.modeset=1" ; else echo " rdblacklist=nouveau nouveau.blacklist=1 nouveau.modeset=0 nouveau.runpm=0" ; fi)"
[21:05] <kilbith> needs rebooting I guess?
[21:05] <Guest67> export DRI_PRIME=1 to use primary gpu. also check bios
[21:05] <Guest67> those are kernel parameters btw i copy pasted from the script above
[21:06] <kilbith> no because there's also a windows partition
[21:06] <kilbith> PRIME's not installed because nvidia driver's uninstalled
[21:06] <Guest67> basically just set your primary card in bios and hook it up
[21:07] <Guest67> peg or pci option
[21:07] <Guest67> or igd i dont know how its called
[21:07] <kilbith> would it affects Windows badly?
[21:10] <arraybolt3> kilbith: Exercise caution using random lines of code from here - Guest67 is not a trusted user and I'm not quite sure what the... oh great, now you're gone too.
[21:17] <rob0> haha
[21:17] <rob0> trolololol
[21:18] <arraybolt3> It looks like the code just sets a variable with some kernel options, but what the options do, I'm not sure yet. And it doesn't appear to save the variable anywhere.
[21:21] <rob0> the spelling of nouvaeu would be enough to fail :)
[21:23] <arraybolt3> oh lol
[21:28] <Sabotender> hello can someone help me find the correct version of nmcli which is in a dpkg form so I can install it via USB? I am not sure which would e appropriate for my version of ubuntu
[21:29] <Sabotender> I removed the gnome connection manager  gui applet which was conflicting with nmcli and it accidently got removed along with it.
[21:29] <sarnold> Sabotender: it's in the network-manager binary package
[21:30] <sarnold> Sabotender: look for it in /var/cache/apt/archives/  -- you might already have a copy on the machine
[21:31] <Sabotender> oh would it remove it if I used apt--get purge?
[21:33] <sarnold> apt-get purge doesn't touch the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:33] <sarnold> packages are put there as they are downloaded and installed, there's no guarantee that anything will ever be in there
[21:33] <sarnold> and it's very handy to delete packages from there when you're short on disk space :)
[21:37] <Sabotender> hmm looks like I have unmet dependencies and apt reports broken packages
[21:41] <Sabotender> I will try to find the package and dependencies so I can install them via USB
[21:42] <sarnold> Sabotender: apt-rdepends network-manager
[21:43] <alkisg1> Sabotender: run sudo /usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig enp2s0, or whatever your ethernet is, to get internet connection, to be able to install stuff normally
[21:44] <Sabotender> for wireless?
[21:44] <Sabotender> i'll try
[21:44] <alkisg1> No cable?
[21:44] <alkisg1> No that's for ethernet
[21:45] <Sabotender> ethernet is not possibble for this odroid. wireless is the only option for internet
[21:46] <alkisg1> OK, I didn't see neither the wireless nor the odroid part :)
[21:47] <alkisg1> Try sudo apt install network-manager, to see which packages it needs, even if it fails. Then with apt install --print-uris package you may see the url to download it
[21:48] <arraybolt3> Is anyone else experiencing strange issues with LibreOffice Calc, especially when it comes to any text that includes email addresses in it? So far I found one really weird bug that I already reported (strange text corruption and duplication), and now I've been lately experiencing another one where multi-line text in a single cell that contains email addresses will end up mangling line breaks,
[21:48] <arraybolt3> merging lines that shouldn't be merged and splitting them in other places.
[21:48] <arraybolt3> This is on Kubuntu 22.04.
[21:50] <arraybolt3> Oh it gets worse, it's also randomly deleting some characters in the cell. What in the world?!
[21:51] <sarnold> arraybolt3: maybe something like https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/6/21355674/human-genes-rename-microsoft-excel-misreading-dates  ?
[21:52] <arraybolt3> sarnold: Oh that's hilarious. But no, it's not misreading anything, it just seems to have some parsing glitches when it comes to email addresses.
[21:52] <sarnold> arraybolt3: I'm wondering if maybe you need to set a format on the field to "text" or something else to encourage it to leave the field alone
[21:53] <arraybolt3> That sounds like a good idea, lemme see if my used-to-MS-Excel-blah brain can figure out the button to do that.
[21:55] <arraybolt3> There, switched the UI mode and then found the button. Just gotta make it look like Excel I guess :P
[21:55] <arraybolt3> Nope, it's still corrupting stuff, but now I think I see why. It looks like it's inserting a random newline any time it parses an email address, which is what's causing the mess.
[21:56] <arraybolt3> sarnold: Hey, thanks, that helped me debug it!
[21:57] <arraybolt3> Now I just need to file a bug report.
[21:57] <arraybolt3> But for now, I'm switching to Kate for dealing with Debian packaging, since I do not want Calc mangling my stuff.
[22:10] <jhutchins> arraybolt3: Watch out for hidden characters.
[22:11] <Sabotender> network-manager : Depends: libnmo (= 1.36.4-2ubuntu1) but 1.36.6- Oubuntu2 is to be installed
[22:13] <Sabotender> so does this mean that the network-manager package is still present, and I just need to get that lib that has yet to bbe installed?
[22:14] <jhutchins> Sabotender: Without digging through the scrollback, it sounds like you've been mixing releases or installing out-of-stream packages.
[22:15] <jhutchins> Sabotender: The way to "solve" that is to remove those packages and build a system with consistent sources, even if the packages aren't bleeding edge.
[22:15] <arraybolt3> jhutchins: He's dealing with an ODROID, I think there's some weird customizations made by the manufacturer on the Ubuntu image.
[22:16] <leftyfb> if this is a custom image, it's not supported here
[22:16] <jhutchins> That sounds like a job for Linux from Scratch!
[22:16] <tomreyn> last time we talked it was a debian image, did this change since?
[22:16] <leftyfb> :/
[22:17] <tomreyn> well the version numbers ponit to something ubuntu-derivate-ish
[22:17] <leftyfb> Sabotender: please run this on your odroid and take a picture and post it to imgur.com:  uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release
[22:22] <alkisg1> leftyfb: my odroid was 99% ubuntu, it just had a custom kernel to cope with the hardware; they were trying to be as close to ubuntu as possible; so you won't see any difference with these commands
[22:22] <alkisg1> Sabotender: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libnm0 => the jammy version is 1.36.4-2ubuntu1, the jammy-updates one is 1.36.6-0ubuntu2. It looks like you want the jammy version, not the -updates one
[22:24] <alkisg1> *actually uname -a should show a diffence, e.g. mine in focal was 3.16!
[22:26] <leftyfb> alkisg1: this channel historically doesn't support custom images, regardless of how close they are. And if what you say is true, no way we should be supporting 3.16
[22:26] <alkisg1> Of course, I've no problem with that policy
[22:28] <alkisg1> It would be nice to have an #ubuntu-unofficial-flavors though, for such cases. E.g. even raspberry pi was unofficial until a couple of years ago
[22:28] <Sabotender> looks like its an address for ubuntu terms and legal stuff. but I amm running  Ubbuntu 22.04 LTS
[22:29] <leftyfb> Sabotender: please run this on your odroid and take a picture and post it to imgur.com:  uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release
[22:30] <arraybolt3> Sabotender: There's a reason they want to see the exact output of the command - sharing bits of info like that is rarely helpful. All of the data in the output of that command is important.
[22:32] <alkisg1> https://wiki.odroid.com/odroid-n2/os_images/ubuntu/20220622#features says the hardkernel 22.04 ships with the 4.9 kernel :)
[22:33] <arraybolt3> 22.04 is supposed to come with the 5.15 kernel though. And I believe the problem that they're having is a kernel problem.
[22:34] <alkisg1> They just need to reinstall network-manager,it's not related to the kernel afaik, but a channel policy should be respected until it's changed :)
[22:46] <Sabotender> https://pastebin.com/aTCVNxsm
[22:47] <Sabotender> I thinkk  you only wanted to see this information so you can tell me that theres no support, but I could have already surmised this
[22:48] <alkisg1> Sabotender, you may use the #linux irc channel until ubuntu gains an "unofficial-ubuntu-flavors" channel.
[22:48] <alkisg1> Cinnamon has just opted to become official, maybe we'll see an odroid one in the coming years:  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2022-November/002691.html
[22:48] <leftyfb> Sabotender: I thought you had no network? Also, you didn't run the commands correctly and either you don't have a valid image or still have lots of updates to do
[22:50] <Sabotender> my mobile uses image to text interpretation
[22:50] <leftyfb> Sabotender: please never do that
[22:50] <leftyfb> Sabotender: here or any other place where you're trying to troubleshoot
[22:50] <Sabotender> this is what I was using to make things easier for me, bbut thank you I will continue using google for research
[22:51] <leftyfb> Sabotender: uname -a
[22:51] <Sabotender> I will assume theres no support for my setup
[22:53] <murmel> I wonder if it would make more sense to push those people to armbian (so they have at least a community which supports them)
[23:09] <jhutchins> What would make more sense would be if the generic "Ubuntu" channel supported all aspects of Ubuntu, not just a specific sub-set that is all some people know.
[23:10] <jhutchins> There's no excuse about bandwidth - this channel has plenty of dead air.
[23:16] <sarnold> arraybolt3: woohoo! :)
[23:25] <ThePendulum> hi, has anyone here had significant issues with nautilus after recent updates? scrolling jumping up, crashing when browsing remote directories, cannot copy text from other windows when renaming files, bookmarks won't let me open the same location twice
[23:25] <ThePendulum> might be my particular installation, just trying to rule out these are common issues others are having too
[23:28] <murmel> release?
[23:32] <ThePendulum> it's Files 43.0 on endeavour, figured if these issues exist on ubuntu there's not much of a point fiddling with it
[23:36] <ezakimak> trying to install wireguard on 18.04, several guides all say to do add-apt-repository ppa:wireguard/wireguard, but that is failing.
[23:39] <leftyfb> ezakimak: https://launchpad.net/~wireguard
[23:39] <ezakimak> ok, I did do that. but it doesn't seem to have the kernel module
[23:39] <sarnold> I think jason stopped maintaining it once he got wireguard into the kernel
[23:40] <leftyfb> ezakimak: you don't need a kernel module
[23:40] <sarnold> (after all, his goal in getting it into the kernel was tro reduce the amount of work he was doing)
[23:41] <ezakimak> well it gives an error : "ip link add wg0 type wireguard"... "Error: unknown device type. Unable to access interface: Protocol not supported"
[23:41] <leftyfb> ezakimak: use sudo
[23:41] <ezakimak> works just fine on newer ubuntu installs
[23:41] <leftyfb> ezakimak: what kernel are you running?
[23:41] <ezakimak> don't need sudo. already root.
[23:41] <ezakimak> 5.0.0-1028-gcp
[23:41] <sarnold> ezakimak: try installing wireguard-linux-compat  ?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wireguard-linux-compat/1.0.20201112-1~18.04.4
[23:41] <leftyfb> :/
[23:42] <leftyfb> ezakimak: you're not running a support release of ubuntu. You'll need to reach out to google for support
[23:42] <ezakimak>  /etc/issue says Ubuntu 18.04.03 LTS
[23:42] <sarnold> leftyfb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-gcp
[23:42] <leftyfb> ezakimak: it's a custom image made by google running a custom kernel not supported here
[23:43] <sarnold> leftyfb: that's a standard ubuntu kernel on a standard ubuntu system
[23:43] <leftyfb> bah, my apologies
[23:44] <leftyfb> I didn't know Canonical included a GCP kernel in the standard releases
[23:44] <sarnold> we've got something like 70 kernels
[23:44] <sarnold> take a look at this and weep https://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/dashboards/web/kernel-stable-board.html
[23:44] <leftyfb> ezakimak: my guess is the GCP kernels don't have the wireguard bit included. But I don't know for sure
[23:45] <sarnold> certainly nothing that old has wireguard built-in, and I don't kow if that wireguard-linux-compat will help or not
[23:45] <leftyfb> sarnold: I know there's lots of different kernels. I didn't know GCP was one of them
[23:46] <sarnold> I wonder why he's still on a 5.0.x though .. there's a 5.4.x kernel .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-gcp-5.4
[23:55] <ezakimak> just apt-get upgrade to get latest kernel ?
[23:56] <ezakimak> hrm. that doesn't list the newer kernel in the list
[23:57] <ezakimak> ah. dist-upgrade