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| moffa | Hello, is there a way to pin the terminal on the left bar for all users on a machine? There are too many users to manually login and pin it for | 01:27 |
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| FaTaL_G | is there a command that will give "extra" details on a linux directory besides .... ls -al? | 01:35 |
| leftyfb | FaTaL_G: what "extra" details are you looking for? | 01:36 |
| FaTaL_G | I have two folders.... they have the same owner, they are both on a mergerfs mount point, along with many others.... tehy have same persissions everything. The mount point is a samba share.... | 01:36 |
| FaTaL_G | now... when I try to add a root folder on one of them to Radarr... it works... the other one does not, it throws a ASPNET exception..... | 01:37 |
| FaTaL_G | There's literally nothing different about either folder. I did renames, moved contents between them, you name it. | 01:37 |
| FaTaL_G | I now have an "empty" "upload2" folder, that used to be the "upload" folder..... | 01:38 |
| leftyfb | FaTaL_G: sounds to me like a not-ubuntu issue | 01:38 |
| FaTaL_G | I rebooted the machines that were trying to mount it. I think its ubuntu or posix | 01:38 |
| FaTaL_G | the problem follows the folder on the ubuntu machine | 01:39 |
| FaTaL_G | ls -al upload and upload2 are identical in every way | 01:39 |
| FaTaL_G | I even swapped names between them, and the problem stays with the same folder, regardless of what I call it. Its a real file. No links, no mounts, etc... its just a folder on a disk | 01:40 |
| leftyfb | FaTaL_G: again, I don't think it's an issue with ubuntu. I think it's with this mix of mergerfs and samba shares | 01:40 |
| murmel | moffa: gsettings set org.gnome.shell favorite-apps "['org.gnome.Terminal.desktop']" | 01:42 |
| murmel | and if you want others, just add them with a , between ' | 01:42 |
| FaTaL_G | it shouldnt be, but how can I reveal any added info on it? the /mnt/media is the mergerfs & samba shared point, /mnt/media/upload and /mnt/media/upload2 are just folders | 01:42 |
| sarnold | FaTaL_G: maybe check audit logs or journal logs or dmesg logs to see if you've got errors or other messages? | 01:43 |
| FaTaL_G | thank you. I'll try that | 01:44 |
| FaTaL_G | I did a grep for upload of var lol... | 01:44 |
| murmel | moffa: you would need to sudo -u, sadly for all of them :X | 01:44 |
| FaTaL_G | err, var/log | 01:44 |
| jhutchins | sudo -i ? | 01:45 |
| murmel | jhutchins: -u for different user | 01:45 |
| moffa | Thanks! it worked | 02:13 |
| Carrot212 | Hi guys, I'm a political activist, I'm trying to make my standard voice calls more anonymous. I can't use Signal for all calls. I need a way to setup an anonymous VOIP so somebody who knows my number, can't trace me back to my physical phone. A web-browser based VOIP, which I can connect to with public wifi or a VPN, would work, but I cant find any | 02:23 |
| Carrot212 | that I can pay via BTC with. | 02:23 |
| Carrot212 | Another option is a SIP? maybe, I just need a way to call, text, voicemail people without it being linked to my physical phone number. | 02:23 |
| sarnold | Carrot212: maybe try #privacytech on irc.oftc.net? that sounds like something they'd know | 02:26 |
| lagunaloire123 | does anyone know what gnome-box program does ....is it an alternative to the propietary virtualbox | 03:47 |
| sarnold | lagunaloire123: gnome-box is a frontend to libvirtd; libvirt provides a management infrastructure around qemu and kvm | 03:48 |
| sarnold | lagunaloire123: you can use the virt-manager front-end, which is a pretty good competitor to virtualbox; gnome-box is much simpler and might be suitable as a replacement for virtualbox, but it might also not support features you need | 03:49 |
| lagunaloire123 | sarnold well i used qemu years ago to try to design some free bios'es for several motherboards to free them from propietary bioses | 03:49 |
| sarnold | \o/ | 03:49 |
| lagunaloire123 | sarnold but i have not used qemu since then | 03:49 |
| leftyfb | lagunaloire123: https://imgur.com/a/qB1vBes | 03:49 |
| leftyfb | lagunaloire123: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/qKFCjhvtpn/ | 03:50 |
| lagunaloire123 | sarnold so it is just a front-end...does it support virtualbox..but virtualbox doesn't need a front end...i tested it many years ago before oracle bought it and it was easy to use and ran xp great in linux back in the day | 03:50 |
| sarnold | leftyfb: oo nice | 03:50 |
| sarnold | lagunaloire123: it probably does not support virtualbox as a backend; normally free software does free software things :) | 03:51 |
| leftyfb | lagunaloire123: gnome-boxes != virtualbox | 03:51 |
| lagunaloire123 | sarnold yes that is quite right and proper | 03:52 |
| lagunaloire123 | leftyfb ok lefty thanks for the tip...i think virtualbox is a great vm but it is propietary now so i don't use it | 03:53 |
| leftyfb | lagunaloire123: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions | 03:54 |
| lagunaloire123 | leftyfb i do use propietary stuff when i can afford to pay for it...i don't mind...but i don't need a vm these days except for the 16 bit vm in windows32 to support the Outlaws game | 03:54 |
| lagunaloire123 | i am glad that some game developers are learning from the excellent girl-centered game final fantasy 7...now genshin impact is coming along and doing quite nicely...and also a new one looks promising for girls also called Infinity Nikki...so i think games are improving these days | 03:57 |
| arraybolt3 | lagunaloire123: You have been tols multiple times to not do that here. Stop. | 03:58 |
| leftyfb | !discuss | lagunaloire123 | 03:58 |
| ubottu | lagunaloire123: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 03:58 |
| leftyfb | !ot | lagunaloire123 actually, | 03:59 |
| ubottu | lagunaloire123 actually,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 03:59 |
| lagunaloire123 | well anyway thanks for the advice on gnome-box..i wasn't sure what that was. | 04:01 |
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| lagunaloire123 | ok well i have lots to do...nearly everyday something new to work on....so see all of you later | 04:03 |
| ThePendulum | they /wc | 04:11 |
| ThePendulum | oops | 04:11 |
| tareq | Hi Guys! | 04:45 |
| tareq | I am new to Linux. Loving it so far. One problem though | 04:45 |
| tareq | I am a power excel user. I am a SEO professional. And I need Excel daily | 04:46 |
| tareq | is there any way I can harness the power of excel within Linux? | 04:46 |
| arraybolt3 | tareq: There are ways of getting Excel to run on Ubuntu, but it's tricky. Is LibreOffice Calc not sufficient for your use case? | 04:46 |
| tareq | Online excel doesn't work since I have to use advanced plugins. | 04:47 |
| arraybolt3 | Calc is like free-and-open-source Excel. | 04:47 |
| tareq | problem is, I don't have the time to learn libre calc | 04:47 |
| tareq | I am extremely efficient in excel | 04:47 |
| murmel | tareq: sounds like you are stuck to a vm then :X | 04:47 |
| arraybolt3 | You can put it into a mode that looks like Excel and not hardly have to learn anything. | 04:47 |
| murmel | arraybolt3: pretty sure the plugins make calc non usable | 04:48 |
| tareq | I am thinking of that. But is it a problem? | 04:48 |
| tareq | how can I do that? | 04:48 |
| tareq | I can try that at least | 04:48 |
| arraybolt3 | It will be way easier to do that than to learn how to run Excel in Linux. If you have to use Excel, the easiet way is to get a Windows license, install Windows into a virtual machine, and install MS Office into that. | 04:48 |
| arraybolt3 | You will need both a Windows license and an Office license though, which may be *pricey*. | 04:48 |
| tareq | ho can I make libre look like excel? | 04:49 |
| arraybolt3 | One moment, let me find the button again. | 04:49 |
| tareq | I understand how to run excel in a VM | 04:49 |
| tareq | sure. thanks | 04:49 |
| sarnold | tareq: you could try using PlayOnLinux to get excel to run in wine | 04:50 |
| tareq | I will only use the VM when I have to use the plugin functions. | 04:50 |
| sarnold | I haven't got a clue if it's *good* but it might be worth trying | 04:50 |
| arraybolt3 | tareq: Open Calc, click the View menu, click User Interface..., then set the interface to Tabbed. | 04:50 |
| murmel | sarnold: it really depends on which version of office we are talking about | 04:50 |
| arraybolt3 | Bam, you get an Excel-like ribon. | 04:50 |
| tareq | i have installed wine. But don't know how to use it yet. Have to watch some tutorials | 04:50 |
| bougyman | When did manpages get replaced with youtube videos? | 04:51 |
| sarnold | murmel: that wouldn't surprise me | 04:51 |
| arraybolt3 | bougyman: They didn't. YouTube videos can be dangerous to follow, the manpages are way more likely to be right. | 04:51 |
| bougyman | I was being facetious. | 04:52 |
| tareq | thanks arraybolt | 04:52 |
| arraybolt3 | tareq: Glad to try to help! | 04:52 |
| tareq | another question, are the formulas same in excel and libre calc? | 04:52 |
| bougyman | No. | 04:53 |
| bougyman | They use different operators. | 04:53 |
| arraybolt3 | tareq: In my experience, yes. | 04:53 |
| NickH | Regarding Excel on wine https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11 | 04:53 |
| arraybolt3 | bougyman: Really? I don't remember that. | 04:53 |
| bougyman | Are you sure? OpenOffice was way different from excel. | 04:53 |
| arraybolt3 | I remember OpenOffice being like that, but not LibreOffice. | 04:53 |
| bougyman | Unless libre changed something dramatically. | 04:53 |
| arraybolt3 | Libre changed things dramatically. | 04:53 |
| bougyman | Ok, cool. | 04:53 |
| bougyman | I don't use excel nor libre, but cool. | 04:53 |
| arraybolt3 | OpenOffice was a formula mess in my experience, LibreOffice makes things much more Excel-like. | 04:53 |
| bougyman | I guess that's good for people coming from Excel. | 04:54 |
| tareq | it is very sad to let go excel. Although I don't like windows. I am very good at excel. I used to flex about it. | 04:55 |
| arraybolt3 | As a fellow Excel ninja, I miss nothing from it. I can switch between Excel and Calc effortlessly. | 04:55 |
| bougyman | It's definitely a marketable skill. Low ceiling though. | 04:55 |
| tareq | how do you switch? | 04:55 |
| tareq | VM? dualboot | 04:56 |
| tareq | ? | 04:56 |
| arraybolt3 | I mean I can use Excel one day and be happy, then use Calc later and be happy. I use Calc only unless I'm using Excel on someone else's computer who doesn't have Calc. | 04:56 |
| arraybolt3 | The one thing in Excel that's missing in Calc that I know of is VBA support, and even that is changing. | 04:56 |
| tareq | I am thinking of using Qube OS as soon as I get used to linux commands. I guess that way I can use Linux and excel with the level of privacy Qubes provide | 04:57 |
| tareq | how is the idea? | 04:57 |
| murmel | wrong channel to talk about this ;) | 04:57 |
| arraybolt3 | No clue. I know Qubes is tricky to use and requires a lot of resources and special hardware. | 04:57 |
| PeanutCashew1 | tareq try #linux | 04:57 |
| tareq | yeah. I am a noob. it is in my future learning list | 04:58 |
| PeanutCashew1 | Yeah the special hardware/limited hardware support is why I dont use it | 04:58 |
| tareq | what is best place to learn linux commands for a complete linux noob? | 04:58 |
| bougyman | Use linux as a daily driver, and only use the terminal for administration. | 04:59 |
| arraybolt3 | +1 | 04:59 |
| bougyman | Doesn't really matter which linux. | 04:59 |
| arraybolt3 | tareq: Use a VM with a second copy of Ubuntu in it so that when you break things, you can recover easily. I've broken my installs so many times, VMs saved me mutliple times. | 05:00 |
| tareq | sure. thanks | 05:00 |
| tareq | currently using VM to run whonix | 05:01 |
| tareq | will add another ubuntu on it | 05:01 |
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| gloomy | Hey, why is it that `apt search gist` gives me a long list of packages that don't contain "gist" in neither the name nor description? | 07:08 |
| gloomy | https://gist.github.com/ldorigo/8db8f9d0a90b6d180e2e20ef3640d524 These are the results I get | 07:09 |
| rfm | gloomy, it searches the long description, and lots of packages have frex "registry" which has gist as a substring... | 07:12 |
| arraybolt3 | If I was to rsync my entire /home/arraybolt3 folder to flash media, how would I tell it to verify the files it wrote as it did so? I'm prepping to back up and reinstall my system in order to switch Ubuntu flavors, and I have a lot of data that I would really prefer to not lose. I believe rsync can do checksum verification, but I'm not sure if it does so by default during a local copy. | 07:22 |
| arraybolt3 | It looks like rsync does this by default, just double-checking mosly. | 07:24 |
| arraybolt3 | Though rsync kind of looks like all it does is checksum to ensure things weren't damaged in transit, not sure if it re-reads stuff that was written, or if disk buffering would get in the way of that anyway. | 07:27 |
| alkisg1 | arraybolt3: mksquashfs /home/arraybolt3 /media/arraybolt3/my-home.squashfs | 07:31 |
| alkisg1 | It compresses which makes things faster, and checksums at the same time | 07:32 |
| alkisg1 | It's like tar.gz, but it can also be loop-mounted, so I prefer it over tgz | 07:32 |
| alkisg1 | (use sudo if you have non-user owned files) | 07:33 |
| arraybolt3 | That sounds like a good idea. Just... forgive my paranoia here, but having had corrupted USB file transfers, I really am trying to be careful here. Is there a way to make mksquashfs verify that an existing squashfs file matches a folder structure? That way I can test the archive after the fact. | 07:34 |
| arraybolt3 | (And I can do the backup and verification from a live USB, thus avoiding a file changing in between archive creation and verification.) | 07:34 |
| arraybolt3 | Actually I can look this up... | 07:34 |
| alkisg1 | arraybolt3: sure, mount -o loop,ro my-home.squashfs /mnt; diff -r /mnt /home/arraybolt3 | 07:34 |
| arraybolt3 | alkisg1: Oh that's really smart. Why I didn't think of diff -r before is beyond me. | 07:35 |
| alkisg1 | Or if you have enough space you may write it to /srv first,then md5sum it,then write it to flash, then md5sum it from there | 07:35 |
| alkisg1 | That will actually be quite faster, as sequential writes to usb are much faster | 07:35 |
| arraybolt3 | Eh, it will be to a fast SD card, so I'm not too worried about write speed. | 07:36 |
| arraybolt3 | It's probably silly for me to be this careful, but that *one* time I got a bad USB flash is making me scared :P Anyway, thank you for your help! | 07:37 |
| alkisg1 | 👍️ | 07:37 |
| hiya | Can I upgrade to mainline kernel in 22.10? | 08:08 |
| Neith | is there a way to run a script after unattended upgrades finishes running? after some googleing I found `DPkg::Post-Invoke` but that fires more than once (I assume maybe due to unattended upgrades running more than one DPkg command?) | 08:13 |
| Neith | oh some more googleing finds https://askubuntu.com/a/1369397, so I'll give that a try | 08:22 |
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| sutradhar | hi | 08:35 |
| alkisg1 | While running the Ubuntu 22.04 installer for Raspberry Pi, what's the default username/password to login to vt2? I tried ubuntu/blank, ubuntu/ubuntu, ubuntu-live/blank, nothing works | 08:55 |
| alkisg1 | It's been stuck at "waiting for unattended-upgr" for an hour now, so I wanted to look at the logs before force-rebooting it... | 08:56 |
| murmel | alkisg1: internet says ubuntu/ubuntu :/ | 08:57 |
| EriC^ | iirc it used to be ubuntu/blank for the desktop iso's | 08:58 |
| EriC^ | maybe the username is different on pi iso? | 08:58 |
| alkisg1 | Could be... e.g. on ubuntu-mate the username was ubuntu-mate, not ubuntu | 08:58 |
| sutradhar | hi | 08:59 |
| EriC^ | hmm, seems as murmel said alot of ubuntu/ubuntu in the wiki and other places | 08:59 |
| sutradhar | my custom kernel parameters in /etc/sysctl.d/60-custom.conf doesnt load on reboot | 08:59 |
| murmel | sutradhar: and what is in that file? | 09:00 |
| alkisg1 | I googled about it too, I tried ubuntu/ubuntu, it didn't work either :/ | 09:00 |
| sutradhar | if i run manually its all ok sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.d/custom.conf | 09:00 |
| alkisg1 | (I ended up force-cancelling unattended-upgrades, and of course purging them after reboot) | 09:06 |
| alkisg1 | Woah, the rpi image is using wayland too! | 09:06 |
| alkisg1 | I go to the remote desktop settings, enable remote desktop and remote contol, then I connect with xfreerdp /u:user /v:host, and I can view, but I can't control, why? | 09:26 |
| alkisg1 | At least VNC works... | 09:29 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe some remote apps dont like wayland yet alkisg1 ? | 09:32 |
| alireza | I'm looking for an IRC group to ask some bandwidth calculation question. | 09:35 |
| alireza | I'll be glad if someone give me a group name | 09:35 |
| alkisg1 | lotuspsychje: I think it worked when I tested on the PC architecture, maybe some pi-specific bug... | 09:36 |
| lotuspsychje | alireza: whats your specific issue, maybe volunteers can point you the right direction | 09:38 |
| alireza | I want to calculate how much network my machine used in one month. The system gives me this output: Transmitted 191.849 Mbps, Received 2.861 Mbps. How should I calculate it for days or months? What method should I search for? | 09:45 |
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| lotuspsychje | alireza: maybe these might help you out; https://www.tecmint.com/linux-network-bandwidth-monitoring-tools/ | 09:52 |
| alireza | lotuspsychje: Thank you but I want to create my own system and I want to know how does it works. or example this is my output when I download a one gigabyte file: https://paste.ofcode.org/tR7j43wKpRrMXYyrC85qJc | 10:01 |
| Diagon | Detecting Mini Display Port: change the GPU to discrete in BIOS and auto detect OS to false. Restart and you can now access the mini-display port. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T530 | 10:07 |
| Diagon | That seems to be the general agreement, but I have no sign of the mDP, either via xrandr or NVIDIA Settings. Suggestions? | 10:07 |
| murmel | Diagon: wrong channel? | 10:07 |
| murmel | ahh | 10:07 |
| Diagon | 22.04 | 10:08 |
| murmel | do you have a t530 or just a system like that? | 10:08 |
| Diagon | t530 | 10:08 |
| hiya | native heic support in Ubuntu? | 10:21 |
| Diagon | linux-modules-nvidia-390-5.15.0-53-generic "Provides: nvidia-dkms-390". But nvidia-dkms-390 is a package and it isn't installed (?) | 10:28 |
| l3on | Hi all, I have a problem with my input in Ubuntu 22.10 I can't find a way to solve it. Sporadically, when i use type down shit+t instead of getting T i get FT. can't find a way to debug the situation here. My xev looks okay https://pastebin.com/2ZAUWu35 | 10:37 |
| wicope | Hi. Ubuntu 22.04 with kernel 5.15.0-53-generic. The problem is "modprobe aufs" | 10:48 |
| wicope | modprobe: FATAL: Module aufs not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-53-generic | 10:48 |
| wicope | Download the kernel sources, the aufs sources, configure the kernel for aufs, compile... | 10:48 |
| wicope | Why doesn't aufs come in the kernel anymore by default? | 10:48 |
| wicope | Should I use a certain version of the kernel version and aufs? | 10:48 |
| wicope | Should I use a code repository to build the kernel where everything is already semi-automated? | 10:49 |
| alkisg1 | wicope: because most software has switched to using the upstream overlayfs now | 10:58 |
| alkisg1 | Which software are you using that needs aufs? | 10:58 |
| wicope | alkisg1, https://sourceforge.net/p/lethe | 11:08 |
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| alkisg1 | wicope: https://sourceforge.net/p/lethe/git/ci/master/tree/ => last update 2011 | 11:10 |
| alkisg1 | Search for some updated software that uses overlayfs for this, not aufs | 11:11 |
| Maik | wicope: beside that software being not further developed and is outdated, installed software from outside the official Ubuntu repo's is not supported and at own risk. | 11:13 |
| wicope | I use both, aufs and overlayfs. I don't see any problem with it. | 11:13 |
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| vlm | is it supported to disable journaling on ext4 then add data and later re-enable journal without data loss or other adverse effects? Does the journal ever get reset when files are actually written to disk or will a record for all files ever copied to the filesystem be present? My understanding of the journal is limited to that its there to prevent data loss on sudden power outtage or so | 11:57 |
| Diagon | just upgraded 22.04 on a thinkpad t530. On reboot, suddenly the buttons don't work. I can move cursor, but no left/right/middle button effects. | 12:16 |
| Diagon | No response to tapping the trackpad, either. | 12:18 |
| Diagon | Well, it's working on reboot. :? | 12:25 |
| elias_a | Diagon: I have been experiencing something like that. I use TP t450s and 22.04.1. Sometimes after boot the trackpad is enabled and it should not be because I've disabled it in BIOS. | 12:29 |
| elias_a | Booting the OS solves the problem here as well. | 12:30 |
| Diagon | Switched to Nouveaux drivers on X, and it's allowing me to use the mini displayport on this thinkpad t530. It doesn't work on wayland unless I turn off virtualization in the bios. | 12:53 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:16 |
| relipse | Hi, I have Ubuntu 20.04 and normally I Remote Desktop into it, but after doing an upgrade I can't anymore. (I can ssh, however), any ideas? | 13:21 |
| relipse | nevermind, this seemed to fix it: https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-20-04-remote-desktop-access-from-windows-10 | 13:24 |
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| zetheroo | Is it possible to have the Power Mode change to Performance automatically when the PC is connected to external power? | 14:54 |
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| hiya | So what is the best Ubuntu updater for software? | 15:38 |
| hiya | Gnome Software | 15:38 |
| hiya | or Ubuntu Updater? | 15:39 |
| hiya | I see in apt-get upgrade that some packages are being kept back | 15:39 |
| hiya | It includes linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 | 15:40 |
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| jhutchins | hiya: The CLI tools (apt, apt-get, aptitude) are much less complicated and extremely reliable. | 16:29 |
| jhutchins | hiya: On the other hand, the GUI tools just use the CLI tools with a cartoon wrappper. | 16:29 |
| hiya | ok | 16:30 |
| jhutchins | hiya: Without looking into your specific problem, there is something going called "staged release" that holds back packages for a more gradual upgrade. Someone else here probably knows how to fix it, or there's Google. | 16:31 |
| hiya | ok | 16:31 |
| lotuspsychje | !phasedupdates | hiya maybe? | 16:46 |
| ubottu | hiya maybe?: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT now implements phased updates. This can hold back updates on some systems while they are being phased in. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. | 16:46 |
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| pjstirling123 | Hi, I'm trying to upgrade a server and something horrible seems to have happened with apt, and I'm trying to figure out what to do next | 17:47 |
| leftyfb | pjstirling123: what release of ubuntu are you running? What exactly are you uprading and how? Please pastebin the errors you are getting | 17:49 |
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| pjstirling123 | leftyfb | 17:51 |
| Bluerate | ubuntu 22.04 terminal is not working and tty terminal is not working also .. can you help? | 17:51 |
| imi | hello | 17:52 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: define not working | 17:52 |
| imi | on my machine the primary boot source is an external USB hdd (with ubuntu 22.04 up-to-date installed). when I let it boot the default way instead of grub activating the machine goes into an infinite loop of rebooting. But whenever I press f9 (selet boot device) and manually select the second entry: the only entry saying ubuntu, it boots up the exact same OS from the same external HDD. How do I fix this issue? (uefi machine) | 17:52 |
| Bluerate | leftyfb when I clicked on terminal, it's not opened terminal window .. hope it's clear now | 17:53 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: this is a fresh install of ubuntu 22.04 desktop running gnome? You've made no changes? Tried rebooting? What hardware is it installed on? | 17:54 |
| Bluerate | leftyfb it's ubuntu 22.04 installed as Operating system few months ago and made many installation ... already rebooted ... the hardware is intel core i7 | 17:56 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: CTRL+ALT+F3 that should bring you to a tty | 17:58 |
| Bluerate | Yes and when open and enter username and password it opened and flied and asked again for username and password | 17:59 |
| Bluerate | so I can open tty terminal leftyfb | 17:59 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: sounds like either you have something bad in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile or something else is severely wrong with your system | 18:00 |
| Bluerate | I tried to remove firefox with snapd command then there's issues with snap-store connectivitiy and i close the terminal while running and when reopened it wasn't working leftyfb | 18:00 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: I would suggest booting with a live usb and running this in your home directory: mv .bashrc bashrc ; mv .profile profile # and then reboot | 18:00 |
| alkisg1 | Does ubuntu gnome have a "launch a guest session" feature? If so, they could use that one... | 18:08 |
| arraybolt3[m] | I haven't seen such a feature. | 18:08 |
| arraybolt3[m] | One assumes that you could make a new user account named "Guest" and do the same thing though. | 18:09 |
| alkisg1 | What about user switching, so that they'd add "user2" and login with it? | 18:09 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (Assuming you didn't give it admin privileges.) | 18:09 |
| alkisg1 | Does it have a "users-admin" dialog? | 18:09 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Can't remember if GNOME has user switching, but that wouldn't surprise me. | 18:09 |
| arraybolt3[m] | (If it did have it.) | 18:09 |
| tomreyn | it does | 18:11 |
| alkisg1 | Bluerate: try this: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/user-add.html.en | 18:11 |
| alkisg1 | If you can add a new user and login with that one, then you'll also be able to fix the first account | 18:11 |
| leftyfb | they left a while ago | 18:12 |
| toddc | alkisg1: 14.04 had guest user built in https://people.ubuntu.com/~gunnarhj/shell-guest-session.html but ... no longer | 18:12 |
| alkisg1 | Meh, matrix :D | 18:12 |
| toddc | https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/07/create-guest-account-ubuntu-20-04/ | 18:12 |
| alkisg1 | toddc: thanks; it's still there in mate, but anyway they left so... | 18:12 |
| lotuspsychje | a guest account was pretty handy actualy | 18:13 |
| === justache- is now known as justache | ||
| Bluerate | leftyfb tried with mv .bashrc bashrc .. mv .profile profile .. but not working | 18:23 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: can you open your settings and create a new user and set it to an admin? | 18:24 |
| Bluerate | leftyfb yes added | 18:27 |
| leftyfb | ok, login as the new user and try to open a terminal. Or go to your tty and login as the new user | 18:27 |
| Bluerate | leftyfb still terminal now opening for a new user or tty | 18:30 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: now or not? | 18:30 |
| Bluerate | not | 18:30 |
| Bluerate | working | 18:30 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: reinstall | 18:30 |
| Bluerate | reinstall ubuntu | 18:31 |
| leftyfb | yes | 18:31 |
| leftyfb | it's going to be quicker than finding out what is wrong without terminal access | 18:31 |
| Bluerate | can i install another terminal with user interface | 18:32 |
| leftyfb | Bluerate: without being able to login to a terminal, you're not going to be able to do much. I highly recommend reinstalling ubuntu | 18:33 |
| Bluerate | OK | 18:33 |
| jhutchins | Bluerate: You can open another terminal instance as any configured user. | 18:34 |
| jhutchins | Bluerate: That's going direct to the consoles - Ctrl-Alt-F1-F6. | 18:35 |
| leftyfb | jhutchins: they can't login at all | 18:35 |
| jhutchins | Rescue mode? | 18:36 |
| leftyfb | jhutchins: and then what? | 18:36 |
| jhutchins | Probably adduser? I'm still wading through scrollback. | 18:37 |
| jhutchins | you could move all of the files from the user directory and see what that does, otherwise it's something in pam. | 18:37 |
| leftyfb | they already added a new user | 18:37 |
| jhutchins | I think we have a communication error here, I don't see what _is_ happening, just "not working". | 18:39 |
| jhutchins | leftyfb: You're probably right, given the level we're working at, reinstall is probably easier than figuring out exactly what's wrong. | 18:39 |
| jhutchins | Sorry for butting in. | 18:40 |
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| tomreyn | communication wasn't great and the explanation of "tried to remove firefox with snapd command" for gnome-terminal no longer opening and TTY login no longer working is, at best, surprising. | 18:44 |
| tomreyn | pjstirling123: did you make progress beyind typing a nickname here? ;-) | 18:47 |
| tomreyn | *beyond | 18:48 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Trying to update... wuts dis? https://paste.debian.net/1262546/ | 18:48 |
| leftyfb | ForeverNoob[m]: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:51 |
| nteodosio | I've experienced something similar some minutes ago | 18:51 |
| leftyfb | looks to me like the 32bit repos for bionic are down/gone ? | 18:51 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | But I'm running 64bit 18.04? Anyway: https://paste.debian.net/1262547/ - There's more in `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/` though. | 18:53 |
| tomreyn | it must be a different issue, status 403 was returned | 18:55 |
| tomreyn | i assume this is something like a WAF overreacting | 18:55 |
| imi | on my machine the primary boot source is an external USB hdd (with ubuntu 22.04 up-to-date installed). when I let it boot the default way instead of grub activating the machine goes into an infinite loop of rebooting. But whenever I press f9 (selet boot device) and manually select the second entry: the only entry saying ubuntu, it boots up the exact same OS from the same external HDD. How do I fix this issue? (uefi machine) | 18:55 |
| tomreyn | ForeverNoob[m]: try again, do you get the *exact* same errors, similar ones, or none? | 18:56 |
| alkisg1 | ForeverNoob: I just tried updating a vm and got similar errors, so I switched to a local (gr) mirror and updated successfully; I think there are some glitches with the primary ubuntu servers, maybe depending on the source IP as well... | 18:56 |
| alkisg1 | imi: sudo efibootmgr | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:57 |
| imi | alkisg1: https://termbin.com/j2v7 | 18:58 |
| UnivrslSuprBox | I can confirm some issues with slow performance and 403 errors on archive.ubuntu.com | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | UnivrslSuprBox: which ip address? | 18:58 |
| alkisg1 | imi: sudo efibootmgr -o 0001,0000,0007,0002,0003,0008 | 18:58 |
| tomreyn | UnivrslSuprBox: the target, i mean | 18:59 |
| alkisg1 | If this doesn't show any error messages, then reboot and test if it works | 18:59 |
| imi | well, I want this external usb hdd to be portable | 18:59 |
| UnivrslSuprBox | tomreyn: `http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python3-defaults/python3-minimal_3.6.7-1~18.04_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden [IP: 185.125.190.39 80]` | 18:59 |
| tomreyn | that's the same one | 18:59 |
| alkisg1 | imi: you currently booted with 0001, this will pre-select the one you currently booted with | 19:00 |
| alkisg1 | imi: the boot order is stored in nvram, it's per-pc, it's not stored in a disk | 19:00 |
| imi | I see | 19:00 |
| alkisg1 | It is portable; but of course in every pc you need to select "boot from usb" | 19:01 |
| imi | that's not a big problem | 19:01 |
| imi | let's hope that helps, thanks | 19:02 |
| rollappuser | what is 2+2? | 19:03 |
| pottenfromtheblo | quick question, i've been trying to teach my son some linux admin stuff. so we're working with Ubuntu. i wanted to teach him terminal to get him comfortable in the shell. when we do useradd -m, it creates a user with a directory. but then when the user signs in and tries to KDE Plasma, its sort of a mess, because it doesn't create all the shell directories. is there a flag to do that within kde? i've been doing it | 19:05 |
| pottenfromtheblo | manually, but for some reason its buggy. ie. dolphin doesn't go to documents, when i go click documents, etc.. | 19:05 |
| tomreyn | UnivrslSuprBox: i've passed this on to #canonical-sysadmin fwiw | 19:06 |
| UnivrslSuprBox | Thanks | 19:06 |
| pottenfromtheblo | for the folders, i mean Desktop, Downloads, Music, Pictures, etc... does everyone create those manually as well? | 19:06 |
| tomreyn | pottenfromtheblo: those should be created automatically, but i would expect kde to handle that. note though that on debian derivates such as ubuntu the default tool for adding another user is adduser (a wrapper around useradd, IIRC) | 19:08 |
| tomreyn | so if you prefer using useradd directly, i recommend making sure you know how adduser would use it | 19:09 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | @tomreyn: Re: 403 on updates: It works now (I previously tried like 3 times) | 19:20 |
| tomreyn | ForeverNoob[m]: it was just fixed, whatever it was | 19:23 |
| ForeverNoob[m] | Cool, good to hear 👍 | 19:28 |
| audiodef | I've recently been seeing "Errors were encountered while processing: grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed needrestart is being skipped since dpkg has failed" on my headless server. How should I fix this? | 19:40 |
| pottenfromtheblo | @tomreyn thank you. | 19:47 |
| arraybolt3 | Alright, the system backup saga continues. I have managed to backup my whole Home directory to a squashfs, verified it wrote properly, reinstalled my OS, then restored my data. The problem is, I have managed to unmount the squashfs file, but now cannot manage to get the loop device associated with the file to detach. I'm doing "sudo losetup -d /dev/loop6" (which is the right device), and it fails | 19:58 |
| arraybolt3 | silently. | 19:58 |
| arraybolt3 | (Also, if I run "echo $?" immediately after the above command, it reports 0 (success, according to the manpage), but the device doesn't disappear, so idk what it's doing.) | 19:59 |
| arraybolt3 | If I were to take a guess, it looks like something is somehow still using the squashfs file even though I unmounted it, since the manpage talks about "lazy device destruction". | 20:00 |
| arraybolt3 | Also "sudo fuser /dev/loop6" and "sudo fuser /media/path/to/home.squashfs" both return nothing. | 20:02 |
| arraybolt3 | (I'm trying to detach the loop device since I can't manage to unmount the SD card containing the squashfs now.) | 20:04 |
| leftyfb | arraybolt3: losetup -d doesn't remove the loop device from your device tree. It only disassociates it with your file | 20:04 |
| arraybolt3 | Hmm, yet running "losetup" on its own still shows /dev/loop6 associated with the squashfs. | 20:05 |
| leftyfb | sudo lsof |grep /dev/loop6 | 20:05 |
| arraybolt3 | leftyfb: https://dpaste.com/CFRBYQVVC | 20:06 |
| arraybolt3 | A couple of error messages, no other results. | 20:06 |
| leftyfb | so it's not being used by anything | 20:06 |
| leftyfb | sudo losetup -f | 20:07 |
| leftyfb | see if it shows up as the next available | 20:07 |
| arraybolt3 | Trying to unmount the card gives me "umount: /media/arraybolt3/dfdf8cc2-6514-49a7-b90d-019949fd8e11: target is busy." I have no file manager open, no process with the squashfs open, and the squashfs is the only file on the card. Trying that next command now. | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | not that it matters, just curious | 20:08 |
| arraybolt3 | (re: sudo losetup -f) Returns "/dev/loop7". | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | did you detach the loop device before unmounting? | 20:08 |
| arraybolt3 | Nope, unmounted first. | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | maybe next time run a "sync" after | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | sudo lsof |grep /media/arraybolt3/dfdf8cc2-6514-49a7-b90d-019949fd8e11 | 20:09 |
| arraybolt3 | After the umount, but before the losetup -d? | 20:09 |
| leftyfb | after the umount | 20:09 |
| arraybolt3 | I did run "sync" a few times. | 20:09 |
| leftyfb | before detaching, yes | 20:09 |
| arraybolt3 | The last lsof command seems to have returned the exact same thing as the first one. | 20:09 |
| arraybolt3 | Two errors, no other output. | 20:09 |
| arraybolt3 | (Er, warnings, not errors.) | 20:09 |
| leftyfb | I'm not good enough to determine the next step other than to reboot | 20:10 |
| arraybolt3 | Eh, oh well. I just realized I might should be in #ubuntu-next since this is Lubuntu 23.04 I'm on. Just jumped from Kubuntu 22.04, not used to being in the wrong room for this :P | 20:10 |
| xbox | is there any update for ubuntu on xbox 360 | 20:20 |
| arraybolt3 | Pretty sure that's not an official Ubuntu project. | 20:20 |
| xbox | probably dead project by now | 20:21 |
| xbox | testing ubuntu 10 right now | 20:21 |
| xbox | it runs prettty fast | 20:22 |
| gyg | arraybolt3, children of God by third day is a good one. | 20:34 |
| arraybolt3[m] | gyg: Probably the wrong channel, but I actually like that band and that song :) | 20:34 |
| leftyfb | gyg: can we help you with something? | 20:34 |
| gyg | haha yeah | 20:34 |
| televi | hello, my sendmail takes forever to restart and sendmail. so look at my /etc/hosts I have: "50.50.50.50 my server.com" is that ok? | 20:40 |
| televi | I have my real ip and real domain | 20:40 |
| jhutchins | televi: How long is "forever"? | 20:41 |
| televi | to restart the server takes about a minute | 20:41 |
| televi | or two | 20:41 |
| leftyfb | televi: what version of ubuntu is this? | 20:41 |
| televi | is this an impatient problem? lol | 20:41 |
| televi | 22.0 | 20:41 |
| leftyfb | 22.0 isn't a valid version of ubuntu | 20:42 |
| leftyfb | televi: please run this and paste the URL here: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:42 |
| televi | 22.04 | 20:42 |
| leftyfb | televi: either way, 1 minute is perfectly acceptible for a server to boot up | 20:42 |
| televi | https://termbin.com/eo5vl | 20:42 |
| jhutchins | televi: 50.50.50.50 is a frontier.net address - is that your real IP? | 20:44 |
| televi | no I just wrote that ip | 20:45 |
| televi | I have my real ip written | 20:45 |
| televi | in my /etc/hosts | 20:45 |
| televi | https://conetix.com.au/support/simple-php-mail-test/ <-- I use this script and it tells me Connection Timeout | 20:45 |
| leftyfb | televi: you should /join #ubuntu-server with help running a sendmail server | 20:46 |
| televi | but from terminal when I run: echo "Subject: test" | sendmail -v my@email.com it takes forever but it does come eventually | 20:46 |
| televi | oh ok | 20:46 |
| leftyfb | televi: but might I suggest using as more modern MTA like postfix | 20:46 |
| jhutchins | televi: What logs have you looked at? | 20:48 |
| televi | none :) | 20:48 |
| rob0 | What are you hoping to do with sendmail? It's really not feasible to run a mail server from home. You can do it on a VPS, but there too, it requires commitment. | 20:54 |
| rob0 | I'd suggest ##email as a better place to discuss. | 20:54 |
| sarnold | and postfix is almost certainly a better choice than sendmail unless you've already got a complex sendmail.cf that your business relies on.. | 20:55 |
| leftyfb | running an email server properly is non-trivial and should not be performed by those who are not invested in the time it takes to set them up properly and securely as well as troubleshoot when needed | 20:56 |
| rob0 | It's certainly easier to learn. Sendmail is in many ways more powerful, but it's very difficult. | 20:57 |
| jhutchins | I dunno, I read the book and wrote my own config without m3. | 20:57 |
| leftyfb | Anyone can get an email server to send and receive email. The number of people who can do so properly and securely is exponentially smaller | 20:59 |
| televi | do I need to have the 127.0.0.1 localhost domainname in my /etc/hosts ? or should I only have my public ip & public domain? | 21:02 |
| leftyfb | televi: the former is required. The latter isn't in all cases but is in some. Add both | 21:03 |
| televi | ok | 21:03 |
| jhutchins | televi: Make sure you can ping both, and READ THE LOGS. | 21:04 |
| jhutchins | televi: You don't get hero points for working blind. | 21:04 |
| televi | https://pastebin.com/raw/dpJB1JDV | 21:05 |
| televi | this is my log when I try to "service sendmail restart" | 21:05 |
| leftyfb | televi: please troubleshoot in #ubuntu-server where it is more appropriate | 21:06 |
| rob0 | televi: again: What are you hoping to do with sendmail? It's really not feasible to run a mail server from home. You can do it on a VPS, but there too, it requires commitment. | 21:06 |
| televi | running a website, and my website sends emails via phpmail or sendmail | 21:06 |
| televi | and its on a vps, not a home pc | 21:07 |
| jhutchins | televi: Do you see anything there about hostnames or errors? | 21:07 |
| rob0 | Then all you want is a null client and a relayhost/smarthost | 21:07 |
| rob0 | you're only SENDING, not hosting incoming mail? | 21:07 |
| televi | rob0 that is correct. only SENDING | 21:08 |
| leftyfb | rob0: help is being provided in #ubuntu-server | 21:08 |
| televi | ok thanx | 21:08 |
| rob0 | ok, I'll drop it, but again, televi and others are welcome in ##email | 21:08 |
| === FoolishOwl7 is now known as FoolishOwl | ||
| === snowhawk1 is now known as snowhawk | ||
| rodybig | Is it possible to find out which thread within a process made a network syscall like accept/ write/ read etc from outside the process? I'm using something like "perf trace -p xyz" but I can't quite make sense of the data it dumps. | 21:24 |
| rodybig | This is how the output looks like: https://paste.linux.chat/?25b73899e4515acf#87tZqmsFhDft9BTzcEmgMcdZC2n9nQ2zoVbVGE82M64o | 21:24 |
| rodybig | There's frontend/abc being logged | 21:24 |
| rodybig | Does that correspond to the thread ID? | 21:24 |
| bray90820 | Hey how would I enter an IP address into the terminal and view the hostname of the interface | 21:26 |
| sarnold | rodybig: the linux kernel's view of the thread id, yeah; it might not have any relationship to the process's idea of what its thread id is | 21:26 |
| leftyfb | bray90820: interfaces don't have hostnames | 21:26 |
| sarnold | rodybig: (some threading libraries provide 'thread id' objects that might not be related at all to the names the kernel uses) | 21:26 |
| sarnold | bray90820: what problem are you trying to solve? | 21:26 |
| bray90820 | I have a virtualnetwork interface and I just wanna know the hostname of said device | 21:27 |
| bray90820 | *Virtual network | 21:27 |
| rodybig | sarnold Ah, I see what you mean. But the thread ID shown here is for the unique kernel schedulable entity, right? | 21:27 |
| rodybig | I suppose it has to be. | 21:28 |
| sarnold | rodybig: yeah; you'll probably find a /proc/2454413/status etc | 21:28 |
| rodybig | Perfect, thanks. | 21:28 |
| sarnold | rodybig: *maybe* it'd be under a different /proc/nnnn/task/2454413/ directory -- I'm not 100% sure how that works :( | 21:28 |
| rodybig | nnnn = PID you mean? | 21:29 |
| sarnold | yeah | 21:29 |
| rodybig | I see, makes sense. | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | bray90820: interfaces do not have hostnames | 21:29 |
| sarnold | most of what 'threads' are are kinda done in userspace.. | 21:29 |
| rob0 | bray90820, "host <IP address>" will show the reverse DNS if there is any set, but that might not have the information you want. | 21:29 |
| sarnold | bray90820: what are you going to use this 'hostname' for? | 21:31 |
| bray90820 | rob0: Yeah that command worked thanks | 21:31 |
| === runbgp3 is now known as runbgp | ||
| morgan-u2 | ok so sarnold or was it tomreyn? -- I was running <journalctl -f > when chrome shut down --- as advised. Now what (Hope I didnt mess it up but I did the update and reboot. I also started chrome but have not clicked "restore" to redopen my 35 or so tabs. | 22:39 |
| morgan-u2 | shall I start journalctl -f again? I failed to look up what it does. | 22:39 |
| sarnold | morgan-u2: when chrome crashes, read through the journalctl -f output and look for log lines that look relevant | 22:40 |
| pedahzur | Am I mis-remembering, or is ubuntu.org supposed to be owned by Canonical? | 22:40 |
| sarnold | morgan-u2: running it at the time is lovely because then you just need to scroll back a few lines .. trying to read the logs the next day is more work | 22:40 |
| pedahzur | http://ww12.ubuntu.org/ resolves, but that's not Ubuntu... :) | 22:41 |
| sarnold | pedahzur: I don't know the story why canonical doesn't own ubuntu.org but it's been this way for a while, heh | 22:42 |
| arraybolt3 | pedahzur: Sounds like you have found a phishing site. | 22:42 |
| arraybolt3 | Especially with the ww12 at the start... :( | 22:43 |
| pedahzur | sarnold: Thanks. arraybolt3: I was trying to going to packages.ubuntu.org...I *thought* that was valid. Apparently not. | 22:43 |
| pedahzur | arraybolt3: http://ww1.ubuntu.org/ refuses to connect. :) | 22:43 |
| arraybolt3 | Should be packages.ubuntu.com, though you probably already know this. | 22:43 |
| sarnold | heh yeah, the packages.ubuntu.com but packages.debian.org messes with my head | 22:43 |
| anddam | howdy, I have access as user A on a 20.04 LTS, I added user B, then created /etc/sudoers.d/B.user and wrote a nice "B ALL=(ALL:ALL) :NOPASSWD ALL" | 22:44 |
| arraybolt3 | sarnold: Oh it gets worse, debian.net is also a Debian website, pretty sure. | 22:44 |
| sarnold | arraybolt3: yeah, but iirc most of the sites you'd want to visit in that domain don't work. but iirc there's one that's *only* available via debian.net | 22:44 |
| anddam | notice the type error in :NOPASSWD in place of NOPASSWD:, now B and A cannot run sudo due to >>> /etc/sudoers.d/B.user: syntax error near line 1 <<< | 22:44 |
| anddam | did I just lock myself out this system admin? | 22:45 |
| arraybolt3 | anddam: Sounds like it. Boot into recovery mode, drop to a root shell, you should be able to fix it from there. | 22:45 |
| sarnold | anddam: maybe try pkexec ? that's sometimes available as a fallback | 22:45 |
| scottg489 | I just started getting this error: "The repository 'file:/cdrom focal Release' no longer has a release file" This is on a fresh install using an autoinstall USB drive I've been using for a while. Does anyone know what's going on here? | 22:46 |
| sarnold | (it depends upon your polkit configuratino what services / commands might be available to you) | 22:46 |
| anddam | sarnold: pkexec is there | 22:46 |
| sarnold | scottg489: I think it's always worth removing those cdrom rules after install, most users have faster networks than they have USB sticks or CDROM drives | 22:46 |
| scottg489 | I'm on 20.04.4. I know 20.04.5 is out and I feel like that might have something to do with this, but I don't think support for *.4 should have dropped? | 22:46 |
| sarnold | anddam: .. but the *configuration* is probably not :( | 22:46 |
| anddam | arraybolt3: if I can do it via this session is probably better | 22:46 |
| arraybolt3 | 20.04.5 is the same OS as 20.04.4, just with updates applied. | 22:47 |
| arraybolt3 | scottg489: ^ | 22:47 |
| sarnold | anddam: you might also be able to just 'systemctl restart' as your user, systemd does polkit auth things for that, too | 22:47 |
| scottg489 | sarnold: Yeah, this was my first go at setting up an autoinstaller so I don't have anything like that | 22:47 |
| anddam | sarnold: what would the result? | 22:47 |
| scottg489 | arraybolt3: So what is going on though, why is this failing all of a sudden | 22:47 |
| anddam | the result be** | 22:47 |
| sarnold | anddam: that'd reboot, so you could get to a root shell | 22:47 |
| arraybolt3 | scottg489: It sort of sounds like you have a cdrom inserted and now apt is finding it, but not able to find the release file or something. I dunno. | 22:48 |
| anddam | the system is remote and virtual, I need to grab someone with access to the managing console | 22:48 |
| scottg489 | Maybe there was just a weird problem with the install. It seems like almost nothing is running, not even SSH | 22:48 |
| arraybolt3 | scottg489: What's your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? | 22:48 |
| arraybolt3 | Just remove any lines about file:/cdrom. | 22:48 |
| anddam | just for reference, visudo checks the sanity of the sudoers file on exiting, could I have used that to edit this sudoers.d/ file as well? | 22:48 |
| anddam | because a plain vi was enough to shoot myself in the foot | 22:48 |
| scottg489 | arraybolt3: deb [check-date=no] file:///cdrom focal main restricted | 22:49 |
| scottg489 | I understand I can just edit that file, but the point of this USB installer is to have this all automated | 22:49 |
| arraybolt3 | scottg489: OK, what country are you in? I'll just hand you a working sources.list file. Also, you could just add to your USB installer the instructions to write the file correctly, I'm thinking. | 22:49 |
| scottg489 | I've used this installer mulitple times in the past. Maybe just something weird happened during this install and I should try again | 22:49 |
| arraybolt3 | All I know is you probably *shouldn't* have any cdrom lines in your sources.list file. | 22:50 |
| scottg489 | Yeah for sure | 22:50 |
| arraybolt3 | Maybe you're just copying the file from a live ISO directly to the host? That might cause the problem. | 22:50 |
| scottg489 | I'm just more interested in fixing the autoinstaller rather than fixing this problem | 22:50 |
| arraybolt3 | (Host being the system you're installing to.) | 22:50 |
| anddam | sarnold: in fact neither A or B have the authorization to run stuff as root with pkexec | 22:50 |
| anddam | ok, that's it then | 22:50 |
| arraybolt3 | scottg489: What autoinstaller are you using? (Sorry if this is a silly question, I've never used any Ubuntu autoinstaller before.) | 22:51 |
| sarnold | anddam: yeah, I wish visudo worked for the drop-in files :( | 22:51 |
| sarnold | anddam: if you set a root password (unlikely) you could also use su, or login .. but probably you wouldn't be here if you had that | 22:52 |
| arraybolt3 | Actually, unless you're doing something like using scripts that manually do everything, I probably don't know how to help here, so I should likely leave this to others to figure out. Whatever setting you can set to make it not include the cdrom lines is probably good, and you should have focal, focal-updates, and focal-security all in the file, with the main, universe, restricted, and multiverse | 22:52 |
| arraybolt3 | repositories. That should give you the best experience. If that's not the exact setup you want, tweak that to your liking (but make sure to include focal-security!). | 22:52 |
| arraybolt3 | scottg489: ^ | 22:52 |
| anddam | sarnold: I didn't set the root pwd, su was how I was switching from B to A in the hope that it would work | 22:53 |
| anddam | visudo(8) says visudo can specify the path, so maybe next time just visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/B | 22:54 |
| anddam | ok, it's a matter for tomorrow then | 22:54 |
| anddam | thanks | 22:54 |
| sarnold | anddam: good luck :) | 22:55 |
| Emerald1012 | <>_<> Nice 8==================D ~~~ ( . )Y( . ) | 22:55 |
| arraybolt3 | Emerald1012: ? | 22:56 |
| anddam | arraybolt3: apropos the recovery mode, server docs has no mention of it https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/search?q=recovery , Core docs does but involves snap or a connected keyboard not sure how well those apply to a remote virtualized system | 22:58 |
| arraybolt3 | anddam: Odd that it wouldn't be in the server docs. Drop to GRUB early in the boot process (using Esc or Shift), then select Advanced Options for Ubuntu. You can find the recovery mode options there. | 22:59 |
| sarnold | anddam: the usual thing is to boot into single user mode or rescue mode or something similar, fix themistakes, and then reboot normally | 22:59 |
| sarnold | anddam: if you can mount the filesystem into a different VM you could fix it that wya, too | 22:59 |
| anddam | this is an ESXi… environment? | 23:00 |
| anddam | not sure how to call that, but I guess I can mount the fs | 23:00 |
| matsaman | 'guest' | 23:01 |
| anddam | no I mean the hypervisor is ESXi so all the VMs are managed by its console | 23:01 |
| sarnold | some cloud environments let you detach and attach block storage to different VMs | 23:03 |
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| scottg489 | arraybolt3: Yeah after another install it seems fine now and the sources.list is properly populated | 23:44 |
| Guest93 | Hi, Im setting up Lubuntu 22.04, whats the maximum LUKS passphrase length? All answers I googled were years old. Thanks. | 23:49 |
| matsaman | Guest93: ... | 23:50 |
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