[00:37] hi all === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc === l33t-h4x0r is now known as oldmemory [00:58] hey l334 [01:54] hello I am not able to update my software because the key for weechat is missing [01:54] it's not signed or something any ideas? [01:55] paul2: ( cat /etc/os-release sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:56] or not [01:58] Fri 02 01:55:59 < leftyfb> paul2: ( cat /etc/os-release sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:58] paul3: ( cat /etc/os-release sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:02] Hola [02:03] https://bsd.to/6gRn sudo apt update [02:04] you need to update the gpg key for that repo [02:04] paul3: even though you did not provide the data I asked for, this time I'll help you. Remove the 3rd party weechat repository [02:06] or try: gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv D1820DB22A11534E ; gpg --export --armor D1820DB22A11534E | sudo apt-key add - [02:07] https://bsd.to/mFrE full upgrade [02:09] paul3: can you tell me which feature/bug from here since 3.5 that is forcing you to use the 3rd party weechat repository? https://weechat.org/files/releasenotes/ReleaseNotes-devel.html [02:10] from what I can tell, there really aren't any changes the average user should care about [02:11] I had no idea [02:11] paul3: then remove the repo, remove weechat and reinstall weechat from the official ubuntu repos [02:12] it wasn't that easy when I first tried I couldn't find it [02:12] then I did something but there's a lot of weechat packages installed [02:12] how do I remove the weechat that is problematic? [02:12] paul3: step#1: remove the weechat repo you added. [02:13] I don't remember how I added it [02:13] sudo apt remove weecht is good? [02:13] paul3: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [02:13] paul3: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/weechat.list [02:14] sudo apt remove weechat* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt clean ; sudo apt install weechat [02:16] thank you leftyfb [02:16] it works good [02:16] I love it, ubuntu saved my computer [02:17] thank you for your help it appears good now [02:18] going to poweroff this is the first time I think I have run any operating system on my own computer that is not windows on bare metal :) [02:18] and it literally made this computer awesome [02:18] from garbage [02:19] have a good weekend and later [02:19] peace [02:19] bye paul3 :) [02:19] !cookie leftyfb [02:20] leftyfb: okay I don't know how to get the bot to hand out cookies os just pretend I do :) [02:20] A cappy hustomer! [02:20] !cookie | leftyfb [02:20] leftyfb: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [02:21] yay Bashing-om remembers :) === chris15 is now known as chris14 [03:19] I'd like to be able to reload/restart Apache2 on Ubuntu. Apache2 and Ubuntu are fully current. No error log has any report. I had some discussion with #httpd; they asked me to come here for initial help. [03:19] They're most interested in me figuring out how to define environment variables first. Those not working are in "/etc/apache2/envvars". Examples: ${APACHE_CONFDIR##/etc/apache2-}, ${APACHE_CONFDIR}, and ${APACHE_RUN_DIR}. === realivanjx8 is now known as realivanjx [03:27] EagleOwl28: my guess is that /etc/apache2/envvars is either a feature of apache's init script or apache's default configuration file layout [03:27] EagleOwl28: ubuntu uses a systemd service file to start apache, so an init script sourcing that file wouldn't be used on ubuntu; and the debian and ubuntu packages have a different apache configuration that might not load that file, if it were loaded by the config [03:29] EagleOwl28: try systemctl edit apache2 and add Environment= lines under a [Service] heading and see if that does the trick? https://serverfault.com/a/413408 [03:29] Yes to the function of envvars. Yes to systemd. Working the next ... [03:34] hrmph. does anyone know off the top of their head how to disable this thing? https://paste.debian.net/1262590/ [03:34] I know I've seen instructions somewhere but can't remember where :( [03:39] looks like something from systemd [03:40] sarnold are you seeing this now? [03:40] sarnold: With "systemctl edit apache2" is your intent to edit the master config file for Apache? That would be "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf"; I can edit that. [03:40] The default version of that file has no headings like "[Service]"; would I turn the rest of the file after that into something it isn't now? [03:40] Do you want strictly an "Environment=" line or do you want something on the right? [03:41] EagleOwl28: no, the idea behind systemctl edit apache2 is to edit the apache2.service file that systemd loads -- that's how you assign environment variables to services launched by systemd [03:41] EagleOwl28: except you don't want to edit the apache2.service file directly; you instead just want to edit one of the 'drop-in' files [03:42] tech10171968: that message comes from the new needrestart package [03:43] Thanks. "systemctl edit apache2" results in "Failed to create directories for "/etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf": Permission denied" [03:43] Maybe "sudo systemctl edit apache2"? [03:44] EagleOwl28: yeah, try that [03:46] That file has, "Environment=APACHE_STARTED_BY_SYSTEMD=true" [03:47] It's after a "[Service]" header. === blazinglight is now known as oldmemory-31337 === blazinglight is now known as h4x0r [03:57] sarnold: I'm learning lots at the ServerFault link you sent. All good. I'll have to work it more tomorrow. Thx. [03:57] do you guys want ai ubuntu ? [03:58] how about yum or dnf source code [03:58] to be plug to ubuntu ? [03:58] won't it be so nice [03:59] have fun coding it [03:59] EagleOwl28: cool cool :) I wouldn't expect the Environment=APACHE_STARTED_BY_SYSTEMD=true bit to be in the file you get from sudo systemctl edit apache2 -- are you editing the service file directly? or did I make a mistake somewhere? hehe [04:00] do you love linux so much ? [04:00] do you want anti virus son [04:00] i will release it here [04:01] https://www.comodo.com/ [04:01] have fun [04:01] buy it guys [04:03] hah, someone's saved me the trouble of figuring out how to reply to him :) very handy [04:05] was that guy on drugs? [04:07] sarnold: No opinion on making an error.:] Usually me. (Sigh) "sudo systemctl edit apache2" resulted in a colorful screen seemingly displaying information about starting Apache. Maybe the full file was around 25 lines long. [04:13] EagleOwl28: hmmm. weird :/ I don't have apache installed, but when I try on eg audit, vim starts up with a blank file: /etc/systemd/system/auditd.service.d/.#override.conf4d4d9dda1d385b43 [04:18] sarnold: So much to learn and understand. Thanks for helping. [04:19] EagleOwl28: I feel that *every time* I touch systemd :) [04:19] EagleOwl28: I'm off for the night, good luck, have fun :) [04:20] sarnold: pretty sure that's needrestart [04:20] murmel: I tried changing /etc/needrestart/needrestart.conf to have $nrconf{restart} = 'l'; [04:20] I hope that does it [04:21] I wish this thing had a more clear SHUT IT UP section :) hehe === anti-kline is now known as kline-test [04:25] sarnold: yeah I would have liked debian/ubuntu to be less interactive :S [04:28] * researcher- wipe the whole .log kill -rehash solanium reload conifg wihout reboot that's all ... . i am out find me at https://facebook.com/skraito.0day or http://worldhacker.org for research ... . is up to you privacy or not privacy ... . if even someone like me use it , like you know what is privacy ... . [04:28] Error: You don't have the #ubuntu,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. [04:32] sarnold: Ah, I know who that is. [04:33] Anyway, offtopic. [04:37] i seem to have gotten my ubuntu installation (22.04) into a state where it tries to upgrade to gcc-12 every time i try to install other packages. the problem is, gcc-12 causes all sorts of problems for some applications i'm developing [04:37] is there a way to reconfigure the package manager to be satisfied with the existing gcc-11 installation? [04:43] !info gcc-12 jammy | andjjj23 [04:43] andjjj23: gcc-12 (12.1.0-2ubuntu1~22.04, jammy): GNU C compiler. In component universe, is optional. Built by gcc-12. Size 71,347 kB / 227,582 kB [04:57] sorry, i'll be more specific [04:59] in /var/lib/dpkg/status, if i look under "Package: dkms" the dependencies line is like this: [04:59] Depends: kmod | kldutils, gcc, gcc-12, dpkg-dev, make | build-essential, coreutils (>= 7.4), patch, dctrl-tools [04:59] on a different ubuntu 22.04 machine, the depends line is like this: [04:59] Depends: kmod | kldutils, gcc | c-compiler, dpkg-dev, make | build-essential, coreutils (>= 7.4), patch, dctrl-tools [05:00] why does one of these require gcc-12, whereas the other only requires gcc? Is there a formal/official way I can change dependencies that are like 'gcc-12' to be just 'gcc'? [05:01] and just to clarify: these are both ubuntu 22.04 systems. One has the 'Depends:' line with gcc-12 for many packages, whereas the other has just 'gcc' [05:03] andjjj23: Both gcc and gcc-12 are optional to install, see ' apt show gcc gcc-12 ' . [05:05] yeah, i understand that gcc-12 is optional, but 'gcc-12' is showing up in the 'Depends: ...' line of many packages listed in /var/lib/dpkg/status [05:06] and that is causing commands like 'apt install dkms' (and many others) to attempt to install gcc-12 when i don't want to install gcc-12 [05:08] so i'm trying to understand why these packages have (incorrectly, i suppose) become dependent upon the gcc-12 package, whereas they should only be dependent upon the general 'gcc' package [05:09] andjjj23: Do you have third-party repos enabled on one of the systems? [05:09] * arraybolt3 checks the official Ubuntu repos [05:10] andjjj23: Oh. I see that the package changed to depend on gcc-12. [05:10] yeah :( [05:11] it started happening due to a recent ubuntu update of some kind [05:11] andjjj23: So just having gcc-12 present is messing things up, even though you can have gcc-11 installed at the same time? [05:11] I wonder if update-alternatives would be of any help here. [05:11] yeah, all kinds of header file errors started happening when gcc-12 got installed on the system. it seems to not play nice with clang being on the same system, which i use [05:11] so i uninstalled gcc-12, but now the dependency issue started happening.. [05:12] andjjj23: Weird. The presence of unrelated software like that shouldn't be able to cause problems. [05:12] Are you able to set any environment variables to rectify the problem? Like `export CXX="/usr/bin/clang"` (or whatever)? [05:12] (I don't use clang so I don't know what the actual binary name is but you get the idea.) [05:13] perhaps. i believe clang uses some of the same standard c++ header files that are installed by gcc/g++ packages, and these newer header files are not kosher in some way [05:13] i'm sure there's some solution for that, but i'd really like to just find a way to revert the system back to a state where it doesn't want all the packages to depend on gcc-12 [05:14] If gcc and clang had the same files, they shouldn't be able to be installed at the same time. [05:14] and get back to work :D [05:15] andjjj23: Sadly, trying to remove the dependencies on gcc-12 isn't an option. If it's more than just dkms that depends on it, removing the dependency would require an unimaginable amount of work on your end. And on Ubuntu's end, it's even more difficult to undo that. Working around the existing situation is going to be the easiest way to fix it, most likely. [05:16] Some possibilities I can think off of the top of my head: Perhaps your software is designed to look for header files in generic locations, and that's how gcc is able to provide files that override clang? If that's the case, maybe you can modify the header lines to be more specific. Or perhaps your software is accidentally trying to build with gcc rather than clang? [05:19] i suspect clang is configured to look for header files in generic locations, yes [05:19] andjjj23: Hey look what I found! https://askubuntu.com/questions/1441844/todays-ubuntu-22-04-updates-seem-to-break-clang-compiler Someone else had the exact same problem and was able to fix it by installing one extra package. [05:19] andjjj23: sudo apt install g++-12 [05:20] (Yes, that's installing yet *more* gcc-12 stuff into the system, but supposedly that fixes the problem and clang works again after that.) [05:21] and the clang ok yeah, we actually tried that... [05:21] andjjj23: And there's another solution here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74543715/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-lstdc-no-such-file-or-directory-on-running-flutte/74605488#74605488 [05:21] unfortunately we were still haven't trouble [05:24] but ok thanks, it's good to know that gcc-12 requirement isn't some anomaly [05:24] i'd thought that maybe it was [05:25] Sorry. I can imagine that this would be frustrating. Seems like the world of compilers has no mercy when it comes to progress :( I've been snagged by compiler messes before, it's not fun. [05:25] yeah :( [05:26] boils down to that we'll have to either update our code or jump though some hoops with --gcc-toolchain or even a docker container or something [05:29] Does anyone on know how I can get the legacy.dll installed on my linux subsystem within Windows? I have a requirement to generate a .pfx file using the DES3 cipher and I understand the -legacy option is the only way to do it. I can't find which lib file it is in. [05:37] webchat62: What are you trying to do? Forgive my ignorance, but I have no idea what you just said. :P [05:38] Like I can see what a .pfx file is, and I think I know what DES3 is, but I don't think you're supposed to install a .dll file *into* WSL. [05:39] Is there a particular error message you get when trying to run a command? [05:44] i am using openssl command to combine a key file and an updated certificate to generate a private key certificate and the azure web app requires the DES3 encryption, which is no longer the default. The legacy option automatically uses DES3, but I have to include an option -path-provider and the path to the legacy.dll [05:45] I hoped the libssl-dev install would add it, but I still can't find it anywhere === yamato is now known as Guest9194 === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [08:14] hi, after upgrade to jammy from previous lts, my lxc containers do not resolve hostnames, any tips? I use lxbro veth [08:19] zprd: do you have a firewall active [08:19] ? [08:22] yes [08:22] on the host [08:22] zprd: yes, did you make sure that the traffic gets redirected? [08:22] especially with firewalld you need to add the veth to a zone [08:23] I use uwf [08:23] ufw [08:23] sorry, can't say too much about ufw, as I don't have experience with it [08:24] ok no worries. what do you mean by putting veth in a zone? [08:24] zprd: at least with firewalld you need to "configure" the veth before traffic can get passed through [08:24] I have no experience with firewalld [08:25] otherwise the firewall doesn't know what to do with all the packets ;) [08:26] hum ok [08:26] Ill have a look [08:26] so this was introduced in this lts? [08:28] zprd: no, but maybe something went wrong with the configuration when installing the new packages [08:28] morning. what is this? -> panel-8-docklik[119719]: segfault at 16 ip 00007f7749f6e3f3 sp 00007fff99ac01c0 error 4 in libdocklike.so[7f7749f5b000+17000] [08:40] dreamon, it's a busted binary somewhere. I'd back up any data I cared about, wipe and reinstall. [08:41] dreamon, the alternaive is to do apt-file on libdoclike, reinstall that package, etc. [08:47] at least that file is not in the official repos [08:55] murmel: I can ping thoug [08:57] zprd: can you "sudo nft list ruleset | nc termbin.com 9999" and post the link? [08:57] but disabling firewall make it work, so you're probably right [09:09] murmel: https://termbin.com/ba9h [09:11] zprd: found the culprit. docker doesn't support nftables, and the rule it adds to the firewall breaks lxd. but can't remember how to fix it [09:11] hum thx [09:17] murmel: I allowed in on lxcbr0 on port 53, and it works [09:17] thanks for pointers [09:17] Docker iptables rules are abominable. That said, with update-alternatives, you can choose iptables-legacy. [09:17] zprd: glad you found the fix [09:18] or just don't use docker *shrug* xD [09:18] I need both :) [09:18] at least for me, podman for life :) [09:18] (and lxd) [09:18] lxd... [09:19] that makes my searches diffcult [09:19] lxc from lxd vs lxc from lxc [09:19] yeah I also hate this :X [09:20] anyways I need to make all work for debian too so it's gonna be lxc for a while [09:20] not a question for ubuntu exactly but murmel zprd : worth getting a certificate for docker? [09:20] Oo no [09:20] only ever get certs, when a job you want require it [09:21] otherwise learn for yourself [09:21] * bG9s nods. [09:21] ok [09:21] one bit i'm a little puzzled about regarding the gcc11 -> gcc-12 switch. Any idea why the change was done in the middle of an LTS? seems 22.04 started out with gcc-11, then later a bunch of packages were made to depend upon gcc-12. it just seems an odd choice for an LTS release. i'd expect that sort of thing in 22.10 or the like... [09:22] andjjj23: I have 22.04 and no dev tools, no gcc-12 anywhere. so seems like something slipped maybe while packaging software [09:23] for example, I don't use dkms (as earlier pointed out, which pulls in gcc-12 for some reason) [09:24] hm, maybe it's part of using hwe or something [09:24] i use hwe? [09:24] no, but i do :D [09:25] eh, sorry, I wanted to say hwe on desktop is default, that's why I use it ;) [09:25] but I still believe that it's a bug [09:25] ooh, ok [09:25] yeah, not sure then [09:25] there's probably an issue on launchpad or a commit somewhere that explains this decision, it's just a matter of tracking it down [09:26] i feel like ideally LTSes could stick with a particular gcc major version as a dep for fairly important packages like dkms [09:26] so the decision was probably (hopefully) not made lightly [09:27] andjjj23: seems like here is a better explanation https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/1997841 [09:27] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1997841 in dkms (Ubuntu Lunar) "More dkms fixes for exact cc compiler" [Undecided, New] [09:28] andjjj23: I would suggest adding yourself to affected, and follow that a bit [09:29] yep, thanks === yamato is now known as YamatoHD [10:19] Hi Folks I have accidently messed up the css, when I search on a app by super button then I cant see the results because I applied a bad css how can I reset that_ I tried ❯ d conf reset -f /org/gnome/ Please help me out === alocer1 is now known as alocer [10:25] hkyi [10:27] hello [11:05] Hi, how could i make my uefi ubuntu to legacy [11:14] marcopolo1_: probably by setting it to legacy in the BIOS of your computer and reinstall Ubuntu [11:18] @Maik: so i boot the dd on legacy? Will it let me? [11:19] marcopolo1_: There is another way but you will need a bios_grub partition and to reinstall grub [11:21] I might just stick to uefi, apparantly its better [11:21] At least what im reading online [11:30] opps sorry [12:01] hi! anyone know how I get rid of this? https://imgur.com/a/P28PphM seems I clicked on a bad link , thanks [12:02] I am running Ubntu 22.04 Gnome --- on a laptop - with thunderbolt - where I connected my adaptor to hdmi screen ---- also I have a bluetooth headset - strangely enough all was working until few days ago - now the blutooth headset does not work if I have the hdmi pluged in ----- in the Settings Audio - I can chose the bluetooth headseat - but I cant hear the music - only the system sounds [12:03] for some reason xkill cant even detect it as a dialog box/window [12:03] How do you get malware on a Linux machine? You have to be the unluckiest guy alive or going down some really dirty sites. I've never seen it before [12:03] non of the buttons do anything nor the close [12:03] transhumanist_: what's the program you see that popup? [12:04] was searching for heat exchangers [12:04] transhumanist_, https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/clamav-ubuntu/ [12:04] dont see any program [12:04] I thought it was part of chrome but its not [12:04] acu tried that, doesnt find it [12:05] I dont think is installed in your computer - is just a trick on their web [12:05] well, actually I was looking for research ON heat exchangers [12:05] to make sure clear the cache from your browser [12:06] interesting, so a reboot will clear it [12:06] browse usually in icongnito [12:06] also - install brave browser [12:06] one.mountainbender.xyz? [12:06] is the most secrea [12:07] anyone has an ideead why settings in sound does not allow change [12:07] ok I can delete my chrome directory .config directory too and reestablish my connection with google if you think that might clear it [12:07] from bluetooh [12:08] transhumanist_, well - if you downloaded the xyz file --- find it and delete it [12:08] and use brave ---- is pretty good safe browser [12:12] sudo dpkg-query -L firefox (or whatever app you installed) [12:21] guess we will se what find / -type f -exec grep "*.xyz" {} /dev/null \; finds [12:56] how to downgrade from 22.04 lts to 20.04 lts on my server [12:56] good day [12:56] downgrading is not supported on ubuntu Guest19 [12:57] okay [12:57] Guest19: best to start fresh, or fix your issue on current release [12:57] maybe if you share what the issue is, volunteers can give you advice here Guest19 [12:58] but my system always sleep and suspend for a long time [12:58] any link to fix that [12:59] can you elaborate a bit more of what exactly happens when you did what, perhaps also share your dmesg in a !paste Guest19 [13:00] !paste Guest19 [13:00] :< [13:00] !paste | Guest19 [13:00] Guest19: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:04] whenever i am working on my machine the server always sleep and suspend for a while without showing the gui but the uid will function [13:50] Hi all === alocer1 is now known as alocer [14:36] Hi again BluesKaj [14:39] hey SteelRose....again === beaver is now known as pong [14:59] I'd like to be able to reload/restart Apache2 on Ubuntu. Apache2 and Ubuntu are fully current. No error log has any report. I had some discussion with #httpd; they asked me to come here for initial help, particularly with environment variables. Also, there was some discussion about 12 hours ago. [14:59] One of the obstacles is that environment variables aren't getting defined. They're in "/etc/apache2/envvars". Examples: ${APACHE_CONFDIR##/etc/apache2-}, ${APACHE_CONFDIR}, and ${APACHE_RUN_DIR}. [15:01] EagleOwl: sarnold already helped you on that case this morning? [15:01] EagleOwl: you might be better off in #ubuntu-server [15:02] EagleOwl: might be good to also mention the previous things you tryed with the help of earlier volunteers [15:07] @lotuspsychje: sarnold did his best to help. He pointed me to "systemctl edit apache2", which seemed to depend on a systems solution parallel to /etc/apache2/envvars. Perhaps the solution will be more internal to Apache? [15:08] systems => systemd [15:08] tnx EagleOwl perhaps also try what leftyfb adviced, with our more experts on ubuntu server [15:09] Thanks for your time! === miguelpires is now known as mpires [15:23] I have a session on the machine with vlc open, how do I make xrdp call this session with vlc? [15:36] hi I am trying to enable sshd server [15:36] any idea how to do it? [15:37] I actually want to transfer a file from my ipad to my computer [15:38] paul3: https://i.imgur.com/HpMMV0c.png [15:40] paul3: sudo apt install ssh [15:42] thank you ravage [15:43] leftyfb : ssh not available [15:43] paul3: then you aren't running a supported version of ubunut [15:43] ubuntu* [15:44] how do I fix that? [15:44] or you have a broken system [15:44] paul3: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; cat /etc/apt/sources.list ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:44] please run that and paste the URL here [15:48] https://termbin.com/bvy0h [15:48] paul3: ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list [15:48] does that exist? [15:49] yes [15:50] how big is it? [15:51] paul3: ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list |awk '{print $5}' [15:52] 0 [15:52] leftyfb 0 [15:53] W [15:53] paul3: sudo curl -s https://termbin.com/e827 -o /etc/apt/sources.list [15:53] paul3: then: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [15:53] W [15:53] nig [15:53] Yo how r i [15:54] rollappuser1: can we help you with something? [15:54] yes [15:54] bruh: can we help you with something? [15:54] I need elp to config flatpak [15:54] bruh [15:54] rollappuser1: flatpak isn't supported here [15:54] bruh: please only use 1 nick at a time. No need to be here twice [15:55] Oh, then where can I find help with flatpak? [15:55] rollappuser1: maybe try #linux [15:55] thnx [15:56] thanks leftyfb just running it now [16:10] Hi everyone - I recently updated to 22.04 and now one of my drives is mounted, but you can't click folders in it to open in Files. You have to right click and select Open [16:10] Not sure what I did, but does anyone know how to fix? [16:11] wait I lied - it's all folders in all the drives not just one [16:14] Ok nevermind, I feel silly now: apparently I had "double click delay" set all the way to nothing in the accessibility settings [16:21] while using a system account to run a program can I still setup an environment or should I manually call "env FOO=bar myprogram"? [16:22] case in point I am moving a program someone put into root's crontab to a system account, the program calls `dotnet something.dll` and https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/linux-snap#export-the-install-location says I should export DOTNET_ROOT [16:22] I wonder if I should setup the system account or not [16:22] since it's a nologin, I wonder if a profile rc get sourced at all [16:23] anddam: https://flatcar-linux.org/docs/latest/setup/systemd/environment-variables/ [16:28] hrmm through systemd, is there a "systemd proper way" to schedule task as in crontab? [16:28] I mean I need to replicate the current crontab behavior [16:28] oh, wait, I guess crontab is being run as service [16:28] anddam: yes, systemd timers [16:29] anddam: systemd timers is the new way of doing crons [16:29] yeah, I am reading arch's wiki [16:30] (my default goto for stuff IDKY) [16:30] when I write a custom unit say for two timers, where should I place the unit files? [16:30] or is there an interface to register unit files into systemd regardless of their path on fs? [16:31] anddam: technically you can keep them wherever you like. But I put mine in /etc/systemd/system/ [16:31] there is [16:31] sorry for the newbie question, but I have ditched systemd a couple years ago so I am not used to do even the basic tasks [16:31] anddam: https://www.golinuxcloud.com/beginners-guide-systemd-tutorial-linux/ [16:32] anddam: https://www.golinuxcloud.com/beginners-guide-systemd-tutorial-linux/ [16:32] anddam: https://www.golinuxcloud.com/beginners-guide-systemd-tutorial-linux/ [16:32] wtf [16:32] anddam: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/understanding-systemd-units-and-unit-files [16:32] thank you [16:32] anddam: https://www.thegeekdiary.com/centos-rhel-7-beginners-guide-to-systemd-service-units/ [16:33] leftyfb: the first (two) links(s) seemed fine as well [16:33] I guess it goes in "Local configuration" [16:33] anddam: I searched google for "systemd unit beginner" [16:34] "I don't have time to learn stuff!" [16:34] anddam: then hire someone to do it for you [16:34] the person who was short on time hired me [16:35] then that is your job [16:35] seriously, thanks, I am making my way through the info [16:35] good luck [16:35] that quoted line was meant as a joke === ubuntu is now known as Guest8259 [16:36] " If you need to modify the system’s copy of a unit file, putting a replacement in this directory is the safest and most flexible way to do this." -> so local files shadow distribution ones [16:36] let's find a .timer and get at it [16:39] "leftyfb | there is" <-- what is it? from what I gather so far the local configuration path is the way to let systemd aware of the unit [16:39] anddam: you can keep them wherever you want and enable the service using the full path [16:43] oh [16:43] nice === jje142191 is now known as jje14219 [16:45] the network.target network-online.target et al. are Ubuntu's specific things, right? [16:46] this task packs stuff and sends over via network, I figure one of the various "wait until networking is configured" is appropriate here [16:46] anddam: pretty sure it's in debian [17:07] Hi guys, I'm trying to cancel an in-progress update, its going so slow I think I should switch update servers. [17:07] Will canceling an in-progress update ruin/break/glitch my system? [17:08] not if it is in the download phase, not the installing phase [17:09] apt install -f to continue [17:09] oerheks: I don't think that will apply if it's still downloading [17:09] -f is to fix a broken/unfinished package config [17:09] oh indeed, just for the install part [17:10] 2 hours eta to download 20 megabytes omg [17:10] yes, i read you too in #linux.. [17:11] GoldenMango15: please don't crosspost [17:13] its two distinct, different channels [17:14] but ok [17:25] Omg, the snap-store won't update from Ubuntu software [17:25] What is going on? [17:25] https://share.riseup.net/#Yy1Xe-kl64u38OoObgbbjQ [17:30] what does ' snap-store --verbose' in terminal show? [17:31] maybe gnome-software is hanging, $ killall snap-store && snap refresh [17:39] oerheks: yes, that command did the job [17:51] Why does the default-jre default to 11 version? [17:51] Isn't it outdated? [17:52] hiya: openjdk-19-jre is available [17:52] but it should be default version, right? [17:52] or at least 17 [17:52] I can't answer that [17:54] hmm === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg === jje142199 is now known as jje14219 [18:28] Hello guys I am on ubuntu 22.04 I cant install libc6-dev I really need to to be able to install build-essentials [18:28] Why can't you install libc6-dev? [18:30] user_1337: sudo apt install build-essential [18:43] * alkisg has seen that twice these days, both times it was caused by ubuntu repository connectivity issues [18:57] I've installed Ubuntu (GNOME) 22.04 on rpi400. VNC/RDP work fine while the rpi400 is connected to a monitor. When I unplug it, they both show a black screen. [18:58] Any ways around that issue? I only have one HDMI monitor and I need it for my main PC, so I want to use rpi400 in headless mode, over VNC or RDP... [18:59] My test so far say that the problem happens on both wayland and xorg [18:59] hiya: Ubuntu isn't a bleeding edge distribution. The default is well tested and widely supported. The latest versions may not be. [19:00] alkisg: Do you really need a remote GUI? [19:00] jhutchins: hmm [19:00] jhutchins: I am just shocked with 1 thing [19:00] jhutchins: as I said, I only have a single hdmi monitor, and I need it for my PC, so yeah I can't use GNOME without a remote GUI [19:01] Lack of Linux kernel 6 in 22.10 [19:01] alkisg: So don't use gnome, use the console over ssh. [19:01] jhutchins: and how would I test GNOME then? [19:01] I can't test stuff, troubleshoot programs, fix bugs etc via ssh when the programs and the problems are on gnome [19:03] alkisg: Maybe make your primary system dual-boot then. Testing on a different architecture is useful, but might not be definitive. [19:04] jhutchins: thanks, but seeking different areas of work isn't an option of me currently... [19:07] * poisone learned: option of me [19:07] poisone: sorry, that should probably be "for me"; my english suck more when I multitask :/ [19:08] * poisone learned: option of me ... exist id: 0 [19:08] * poisone learned: option for me ... exist id: 1 [19:08] * poisone has quit IRC (Nz timeout: 256 seconds) [19:09] My Avg Read speed comes 6.6 GB/s as per Gnome Disk. Is it good? === dstein64- is now known as dstein64 [19:28] hiya: Extremely good. [19:53] Hi, I logged out of my Ubuntu desktop session (in Windows Remote Desktop) and now I cannot log back in with rdc, only with ssh, I tried following the instructions on https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-20-04-remote-desktop-access-from-windows-10 to no avail. Can someone please help? [19:54] relipse: Try restarting gdm (assuming that's your display manager on the remote). [19:54] relipse: Any reason not to just reboot it? [19:54]