[00:02] <tomreyn> morgan-u2: And (completely unrelated to you posting the same line twice) "THIS" referred to reproducing the issues you were reporting with Chrome (which is not a package available in Ubuntu)
[01:33] <bjorkintosh> is there a trick to enabling nfsv2 on 22?
[01:34] <bjorkintosh> I thought these settings were all I needed in /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server RPCNFSDCOUNT="--nfs-version 2 8"
[01:34] <bjorkintosh> RPCMOUNTDOPTS="--nfs-version 2 --manage-gids"
[01:37] <oerheks> never un into this, but this answer might be a help
[01:37] <oerheks> c/run
[01:37] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1193536/how-to-enable-nfs-v2-on-ubuntu-18-04
[01:37] <bjorkintosh> thank you oerheks, already saw that.
[01:37] <bjorkintosh> apparently something's changed in 22
[01:37] <oerheks> sudo mount -t nfs ..... nfsvers=2
[01:37] <oerheks> oh
[01:38] <bjorkintosh> and I can't figure out what. because not that many people need NFSv2 in the first place.
[01:38] <oerheks> so this page is also no use? https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-and-configure-an-nfs-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[01:38] <oerheks> yeah, it is pretty .. ancient
[01:39] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1973101
[01:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1973101 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "After upgrade to 22.04 NFS exports for vers 2 and 3 no longer work" [Undecided, Opinion]
[01:40] <oerheks> and Regarding v3, the UDP transport is no longer available, only TCP....
[01:40] <bjorkintosh> yeah.
[01:41] <oerheks> setup a vm?
[01:41] <oerheks> 18 something
[01:41] <bjorkintosh> any good options besides vbox?
[01:42] <oerheks> kvm
[01:42] <oerheks> !kvm
[01:42] <bjorkintosh> okay, I shall check it out.
[01:42] <oerheks> and tons of howto's online
[01:42] <bjorkintosh> funny thing is, I need nfsv2 enabled to run an alien OS on my machine.
[01:43] <oerheks> why not try to import that alien os directly?
[01:43] <bjorkintosh> its a virtual machine. it's alien and ancient.
[01:44] <bjorkintosh> so I'm going to run a virtual machine in order to run the intended virtual machine I'm interested. only 2 layers deep.
[01:44] <bjorkintosh> because nfsV2 is deprecated.
[01:44] <bjorkintosh> grrr!
[01:46] <oerheks> good luck
[01:48] <bjorkintosh> thank you.
[01:51] <peacefulman> Does anyone else have issues with ubuntu 22.04 lts and evolution+exchange and microsoft teams with multi-factor authentication? I thought it was only suppose to prompt me once in awhile but it's asking for multi-factor authentication many times a day now.
[01:51] <peacefulman> Oon 20.04 lts it was normal.
[01:59] <mekhami> i'm having my 937th problem updating my nvidia drivers
[01:59] <mekhami> i've tried running the .run file that nvidia provides, i've tried running `apt install nvidia-driver-525`, i've tried the cuda-drivers thing (doesn't install)
[01:59] <mekhami> is it like intentional that ubuntu makes this stuff so overcomplicated and broken? or is it accidental.
[02:00] <mekhami> i'm gonna try rebooting real quick.
[02:02] <oerheks> why not use the nvidia-cuda-toolkit ?
[02:02] <oerheks> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit jammy
[02:03] <mekhami> probably cause the last time i installed drivers it probably wasn't available or wasn't advertised cause there have to be 900 ways to do simple things -.-
[02:03] <oerheks> we never said that you should use .run driver from nvidia itself
[02:22] <tomreyn> peacefulman: not sure this helps, but i've had a good enough experience using thunderbird with commercial (but cheap) extension "owl"
[02:23] <morgan-u2> I have screenshots of journal... just after chrome died. Please someone look and see what is odd here. Where shall I put the images on the web?
[02:26] <tomreyn> peacefulman: for ms teams, there are microsofts' apt archives (different release channels) and an open source variant on github, all of which are just differently limited (compared to ms teams on windows) electron webapps-in-a-box
[02:26] <tomreyn> !paste | morgan-u2
[02:27] <tomreyn> !screenshots
[02:27] <tomreyn> morgan-u2: no need for screenshots, though, the text will still be in your journal
[02:29] <oerheks> why a screenhsot of journal..
[02:29] <oerheks> and not providing them.
[03:28] <gebbione> hello ubunters ... I have installed some updates. I think some nvidia drivers got installed and this morning i could not get a login screen. I had a black screen with cursor. Finally it moved on and now it shows a very low resolution in only one of the screens. I can see from `lshw -C display` only one screen as unclaimed. Using a VGA compatible driver. Any suggestions what i can try?
[04:26] <gebbione> i have display unclaimed even if i installed the nvidia drivers. Has anyone experienced this?
[05:12] <gebbione> hi ubuntudrivers autoinstall fails ... not sure how to show the error as i tried to nc termbin.com 9999 and it is not working from recovery mode. In short the video drivers are not working and system shows not GUI
[05:22] <webchat88> hi, can someone pls advise how to mount external USB drive without being asked for password - presently I am being asked for password (as user) - I am using Ubuntu 22.04 / Jammy
[05:24] <webchat88> I searched a lot and tried many links, but didn't help : e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=122761, https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/how-to-mount-drives-without-password/23432, etc.
[05:43] <gebbione> can anyone suggest is this approach of deleting Xorg config is fine? https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-to-20-messed-up-graphics-drivers/200696/13
[05:57] <gebbione> damn nvidia
[05:58] <Bashing-om> gebbione: I offer my assistance - to clean up your system and install the repo proprietary driver (as advised by Nvidia !). To start - what results from terminal command: sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"
[05:59] <Bashing-om> gebbione: ^ "find" will take a while to search - patience :)
[06:01] <gebbione> i m using the official stuff. Difficult to post info here as i need to boot using recovery mode and cannot even load the UX in fail safe, no networking and limited root terminal
[06:01] <gebbione> i ll try to post in a minute if i can get the shell
[06:02] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | gebbione
[06:03] <gebbione> i ll try nomodeset ... i had it before and if i remember correctly it was causing troubles. I have had this nvidia card for a little while now
[06:04] <gebbione> and drivers were working until yesterday's kernel and software updates
[06:05] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Ack --- If you were running a driver provided by Nvidia *AND* DKNS is not installed and applied to the driver then such is the expected behavour when the kernel is changed.
[06:06] <Bashing-om> *DKMS
[06:06] <gebbione> dkms comes in another package with the -dkms suffix?
[06:08] <gebbione> ok somehow decided to show me a GUI but still not detecting monitor
[06:08] <Bashing-om> !info dkms jammy | geb
[06:12] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Sorry but if you can not see the display after the kernel boots - I do not know how to assist in that event :(
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> gebbione: boot a previous kernel as a test?
[06:15] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: gebbione: Oh Yes !
[06:20] <gebbione> i m inside a UX session now. Drivers not working but let me see if i can show some output
[06:24] <gebbione> i have run sudo apt install nvidia-driver-515 nvidia-dkms-515
[06:24] <gebbione> do i need to reboot or can i test drivers installation without a risky reboot?
[06:26] <Bashing-om> gebbione: As you have installed a new driver without purging the other ---- could now be in for a world of hurt to fix :(
[06:27] <gebbione> well now i went to the software and packages UX -> additional drivers and set it to the 525 one
[06:27] <gebbione> something i tried before but on reboot it was not working
[06:27] <gebbione> should I autopurge?
[06:28] <gebbione> `sudo apt autoremove`
[06:28] <Bashing-om> gebbione: There can be but the one driver installed - else the system is confused and does not know what to do.
[06:33] <gebbione> ok well not only the 525 are installed
[06:34] <gebbione> and i have set them put in software and updates config
[06:34] <gebbione> any step i should take before a reboot?
[06:34] <gebbione> hoping it now works (hopefully)
[06:35] <gebbione> now only the 525 are installed
[06:36] <Bashing-om> gebbione: 'dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' to insure there is only one version if "ii" .
[06:40] <gebbione> that shows a lot of stuff https://termbin.com/3hzh but some of these are not installed .... For instance if i try to install sudo apt install nvidia-dkms-455 ... it asks me if i want to add it with extra Kb of space. So it is not installed
[06:40] <gebbione> i dont get what is happening the dpkg -l shows packages that arent installed
[06:48] <gebbione> still no luck but for some reason the default UX is working
[06:49] <Bashing-om> gebbione: In bios us secure boot enabled ?
[06:49] <gebbione> i dont think so
[06:50] <gebbione> not sure what difference it would make, ie the nvidia drivers were working before last packages update
[06:50] <webchat88> hi, can someone pls advise how to mount external USB drive without being asked for password - presently I am being asked for password (as user) - I am using Ubuntu 22.04 / Jammy - I searched a lot and tried many links, but didn't help : e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=122761,
[06:50] <webchat88> https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/how-to-mount-drives-without-password/23432, etc.
[06:51] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Need to verify that secure boot is not enabled - the driver is 3rd party and secure boot will prevent the installation of the driver.
[06:51] <gebbione> would I have experienced these troubles before if secure boot was enabled?
[06:53] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Depends on if a new proprietary driver were to be installed with a new kernel.
[06:53] <gebbione> lsmod | grep nvidia shows  https://termbin.com/gfk8g
[06:56] <Bashing-om> gebbione: the zero reflects not used ?? what shows ' cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version ; dkms status ' ?
[06:57] <gebbione> the version file does not exist here
[06:58] <alkisg> webchat88: what's the file system of the drive? sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:58] <gebbione> dkms status https://termbin.com/sp94n
[06:59] <Bashing-om> gebbione: O bet ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' also shows no driver installed :(
[07:01] <alkisg> gebbione: dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep termbin.com 9999; and the output of sudo mokutil --sb-state
[07:02] <arraybolt3> webchat88: Just to be clear, you're using Ubuntu Desktop? If so, did you do anything weird just before this stopped working? USB drives should automatically mount upon insertion without needing admin rights.
[07:03] <arraybolt3> Also, what filesystem is on the USB drive?
[07:03] <webchat88> arraybolt3, yes, It does automount upon login (from remote desktop), but it asks me for user password (not root)
[07:03] <webchat88> I want to avoid giving the user password also
[07:03] <webchat88> It is NTFS
[07:04] <arraybolt3> That makes sense. The user password is providing admin privileges though, due to how Ubuntu works.
[07:04] <arraybolt3> So this is over remote desktop? Does the USB drive act as intended if you're using the computer locally?
[07:04] <webchat88> remote desktop
[07:05] <arraybolt3> Parhaps that's why things are acting strangely. What remote desktop software are you using? xrdp?
[07:05] <arraybolt3> Or is this the built-in remote desktop thing in GNOME?
[07:05]  * arraybolt3 doesn't know what that's called
[07:05] <webchat88> yes xrdp
[07:05] <webchat88> xrdp into gnome desktop
[07:06] <arraybolt3> OK, let me do some research real quick.
[07:06] <webchat88> in the links, there was talk about polkit and udisk2 as I put there
[07:06] <gebbione> Bashing-om, https://termbin.com/q3ece is the cat ouput for gpu-manager log
[07:06] <alkisg> AFAIK xrdp doesn't mark the remote session as "active" (means "local"), and policykit then doesn't authorize your mount request
[07:06] <webchat88> ok
[07:06] <alkisg> webchat88: so you can either modify a policykit configuration file, or add a user entry in /etc/fstab
[07:06] <gebbione> alkisg, https://termbin.com/3hzh dpkg output
[07:07] <alkisg> webchat88: if it's always the same drive, I think the fstab entry would be the better approach
[07:07] <webchat88> ok, can you pls tell how to modify the policykit config file ?
[07:07] <webchat88> its always thes ame drive -
[07:07] <webchat88> ok, I will read on the fstab and use it - so I may have to specify the username in the fstab correct ?
[07:07] <arraybolt3> webchat88: I don't believe so, I think you just specify the drive's UUID and where you want it mounted.
[07:07] <gebbione> alkisg, i dont have mokuitl
[07:07] <arraybolt3> (Along with some settings.)
[07:08] <arraybolt3> webchat88: What OS are you using on your local system? Windows or Ubuntu?
[07:08] <alkisg> gebbione: try: sudo apt install nvidia-dkms-525
[07:08] <webchat88> arraybolt3, so it will then work for any user ?
[07:08] <webchat88> I am using Ubuntu 22.04
[07:08] <arraybolt3> webchat88: Yes.
[07:08] <arraybolt3> Any user will be able to mount that drive after this.
[07:08] <gebbione> alkisg, it is installed and i also selected it in software and packages ... both the driver and dkms
[07:08] <webchat88> ok, let me try fstab
[07:08] <alkisg> gebbione: sudo dmesg | grep -i secure | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:09] <webchat88> Thanks arraybolt3, @alksig
[07:09] <webchat88> Thanks arraybolt3, alkisg
[07:09] <alkisg> gebbione: see your own output, rc  nvidia-dkms-525                                             525.60.11-0ubuntu0.22.04.1                   amd64        NVIDIA DKMS package
[07:09] <alkisg> webchat88: you're welcome
[07:09] <alkisg> gebbione: rc means not properly installed
[07:09] <alkisg> If it says it's installed, do dpkg-reconfigure instead, sudo dpkg-reconfigure  nvidia-dkms-525
[07:09] <arraybolt3> webchat88: What OS are you using on your local system? Windows or Ubuntu?
[07:09] <gebbione> https://termbin.com/5g4j
[07:10] <webchat88> arraybolt3, i am remote desktoping from windows 10 to Ubuntu 22.04 and I want to see the drives mounted without password prompt in ubuntu 22.04
[07:11] <arraybolt3> Ah, OK. So log into the remote system, redirect the drive, but don't mount it.
[07:12] <arraybolt3> Then in a terminal on the remote system, run "lsblk -f | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link it spits out.
[07:14] <webchat88> arraybolt3, https://termbin.com/u946;  What does redirect the drive, but don't mount it mean ?
[07:14] <arraybolt3> That link doesn't work, can you try it again?
[07:15] <gebbione> alkisg, i get ii  nvidia-dkms-525 but rc for the -open one
[07:15] <arraybolt3> (I mean, whatever youre doing to get the drive into the remote system, do that, but thebn dont provide the password when asked.)
[07:15] <gebbione> i selected the 525 in software and packages but still get no screens detected
[07:15] <alkisg> gebbione: right, installing the one would remove the other. But did you see any errors while installing it?
[07:15] <alkisg> gebbione: please use apt instead, so that we can see the error messages
[07:15] <arraybolt3> (Or is the drive already plugged into the system on the remote end?)
[07:16] <arraybolt3> Oh wait I see what went wrong with the link, now it's working.
[07:16] <gebbione> alkisg, i didnt ... it ended with "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.0.0-1007-oem
[07:16] <alkisg> gebbione: we want `dkms status` to say "installed", not "added"
[07:16] <gebbione> is ii added ?
[07:16] <gebbione> not installed?
[07:16] <alkisg> This is dkms status, not dpkg
[07:16] <arraybolt3> webchat88: Is the drive the "Seagate Expansion Drive", or the other drive?
[07:16] <alkisg> A different command
[07:17] <alkisg> gebbione: I'm not sure if nvidia supports the 6.0 kernel yet; the dkms make.log file will tell you if you run it via apt and not the software center or the drivers window
[07:17] <webchat88> arraybolt3, for the seagate, i entered password for user and started using. It is for another drive I want to do this
[07:17] <gebbione> alkisg, still shows added :(
[07:17] <gebbione> not installed
[07:17] <alkisg> gebbione: most of ubuntu users have kernel 5.15; you have a weird 6.0 oem kernel instead
[07:18] <arraybolt3> webchat88: Ah, OK. Do you know which partition on the other drive you're trying to mount? There's three of them marked "NTFS", one of which is marked "New Volume".
[07:18] <gebbione> even if i boot with an older kernel i get the same probblem
[07:18] <webchat88> I didn't connect the other drive yet, but yes I know the partition.
[07:19] <alkisg> gebbione: do you have the normal 5.15 kernel installed? If so, boot with that one and let's see
[07:19] <webchat88> I am trying this in fstab : UUID=XXXXXX /media/hdd2 ntfs permissions,locale-en_US.utf8 0 2
[07:19] <gebbione> alkisg, also i dont experiment with new kernels
[07:19] <gebbione> i just run updates
[07:19] <webchat88> arraybolt3, will above update in fstab work ?
[07:19] <arraybolt3> webchat88: Hold on, lemme find out.
[07:19] <webchat88> arraybolt3, I was looking up in https://askubuntu.com/questions/113733/how-to-mount-a-ntfs-partition-in-etc-fstab
[07:19] <alkisg> gebbione: dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:20] <arraybolt3> webchat88: That looks right to me, I'm not sure about the "permissions,locale-en_US.utf8" bit, but it might work.
[07:20] <webchat88> ok, I will try it
[07:20] <gebbione> alkisg, i have ii next to the 5.15 on e
[07:20] <gebbione> one
[07:20] <arraybolt3> webchat88: Oh hold on, I see a problem.
[07:20] <arraybolt3> webchat88: It should be "permissions,locale=en_US.utf8". =, not -.
[07:21] <arraybolt3> Actually, you should be able to drop the "locale=..." part entirely.
[07:21] <alkisg> gebbione: do you mind sharing the URL? it will help us avoid pitfalls
[07:21] <arraybolt3> webchat88: So just try UUID=XXXXXX /media/hdd2 ntfs permissions 0 2.
[07:21] <arraybolt3> (Obviously replacing XXXXXX with the UUID of the drive.)
[07:21] <gebbione> alkisg, https://termbin.com/u88b2
[07:23] <alkisg> gebbione: OK, let's first see the make.log file, and then you can try to reboot with 5.15.0-56
[07:23] <alkisg> gebbione: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-dkms-525
[07:24] <alkisg> gebbione: when it fails, pastebin the terminal output
[07:24] <gebbione> alkisg, it doesnt look like it is failing to me https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mgWHZkzZ6t/
[07:25] <alkisg> gebbione: ok, reboot with the current 6.0 kernel, and let's see if it gets loaded
[07:26] <gebbione> ok going for now. I hope i can get back on :)
[07:26] <alkisg> gebbione: wait wait
[07:26] <alkisg> Blind. "not built" it says, not "success"
[07:26] <gebbione> ohhh
[07:26] <alkisg> You need the headers for your kernel
[07:26] <alkisg> gebbione: no , dont reboot
[07:27] <webchat88> arraybolt3, ok thanks, will try without the locale stuff
[07:28] <alkisg> gebbione: sudo apt install linux-oem-22.04b
[07:28] <alkisg> gebbione: this is the metapackage that  corresponds to your 6.0 kernel, it will also pull the kernel headers
[07:28] <gebbione> running
[07:29] <gebbione> it ends up setting up the kernel but ...
[07:29] <gebbione> Error! The /var/lib/dkms/v4l2loopback/0.12.5/6.0.0-1007-oem/x86_64/dkms.conf for module v4l2loopback
[07:29] <gebbione> includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which does not match this kernel/arch.
[07:29] <gebbione> this line was also output
[07:30] <gebbione> not sure if relevant
[07:30] <gebbione> i can pastebin the whole lot if needed
[07:30] <alkisg> Better pastebin all of it
[07:30] <gebbione> alkisg, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BDpN6knMhW/
[07:31] <alkisg> gebbione: it looks good enough, even if you lost the video for linux module, what's the output of: dkms status | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:32] <alkisg> You probably have some dell or lenovo or something pc/laptop, that's why you got the -oem kernel
[07:32] <gebbione> https://termbin.com/113c
[07:32] <gebbione> i have a PC desktop
[07:33] <gebbione> not dell
[07:33] <gebbione> custom built
[07:33] <alkisg> OK, reboot
[07:33] <gebbione> brb
[07:35] <gebbione> alkisg, thank you. Life is better again
[07:36] <alkisg> 👍️
[07:36] <Bashing-om> !cookie | alkisg
[07:36] <alkisg> 🍪
[07:38] <alkisg> gebbione: not sure why ubuntu installed the oem kernel for you; I usually remove it and get back to the usual 5.15 one (generic) for maximum compatibility
[07:40] <gebbione> i think because i am subscribed to all updates maybe?
[07:40] <alkisg> No
[07:40] <gebbione> should i change it to security and recommended only?
[07:40] <alkisg> I guess it detected some oem hardware that it thought would be supported best by the oem kernel
[07:40] <alkisg> But that then leaves video for linux uncompiled, etc
[07:41] <alkisg> You should have all updates enabled as you do now
[08:45] <anddam> howdy, I tried settig a simple systemd timer/service as in  https://termbin.com/v2cm , it starts but then I get
[08:45] <anddam> Dec 04 08:44:47 ubuntu-20 marktime.sh[3720]: /usr/local/marktime.sh: 3: cannot create /tmp/sample.out: Permission denied
[08:45] <anddam> Dec 04 08:44:47 ubuntu-20 systemd[1]: sample.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
[08:46] <anddam> but ls -l /tmp/sample.out is    -rw-rw-rw- 1 1000 1000 1 Dec  4 08:26 /tmp/sample.out
[08:46] <anddam> do unit files processes live in a restricted environment?
[08:48] <EriC^> anddam what's the user created if you do /tmp/sample.out2 ?
[08:51] <skydoge> GANOO
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> can we help you skydoge ?
[08:52] <skydoge> lotuspsychje, yes some oligarch on #linux just banned me
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> nothing we can help with skydoge
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> gebbione alkisg we had users in the past reporting their system/brand installed an oem kernel by default, would be interesting to findout how ubuntu decides that
[09:05] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: I've seen it many times, e.g. just now a user in #kubuntu reported the -oracle kernel variant, but I'm not sure which part decides that; maybe ubiquity
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> nice to know alkisg , it never occured on my or customers bxoes yet
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> *boxes
[09:07] <skydoge> join #centos
[09:07] <skydoge> oops sorry
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: found something here; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2020-January/002478.html
[09:22] <EriC^> nice find lotuspsychje
[09:22] <alkisg> > On certified machines, identified precisely by smbios grub module (i.e. equivalent to matching by vendor, sku, product ids as seen in dmidecode) may boot to the OEM kernel for installation by default.
[09:23] <alkisg> So I guess the motherboard is the basic part...
[09:24] <alkisg> > This also means, that one might install Vanilla 20.04, and get offered certified upgrade via per-vendor/per-sku metapackage from focal-updates when said machine gets certified.
[09:25] <alkisg> Heh, fun, an apt full-upgrade may switch the kernel flavor
[09:50] <MichaelS> My Ubuntu 20.04 LTS just updated from
[09:50] <MichaelS> linux-image-5.15.0-48-generic to linux-image-5.15.0-56-generic
[09:50] <MichaelS> The new kernel does not boot - it stops right after it says that the file system is clean. The previous kernel boots fine.
[09:50] <MichaelS> Should I report a bug? I guess I would need more information but I am not sure what to report.
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> lets check some recent kernel bugs MichaelS holdon plz
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> you got an AMD system by the way MichaelS ?
[09:52] <MichaelS> Yes, a 32 core thread ripper
[09:55] <MichaelS> lotuspsychje: to be preicise: model name    : AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 5975WX 32-Cores
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> what about the gpu MichaelS
[09:55] <MichaelS> nVidia Quadro A5000
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> i dont find recent bugs filed on -56 specific yet MichaelS
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: you cant see more text the file system is clean? even witg F1 text boot?
[09:59] <MichaelS> I think I have text boot as default
[10:00] <MichaelS> The cursor stops blinking less than 1s after it says the file system is clean
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> kk
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: can you report your bug with: ubuntu-bug linux please
[10:00] <MichaelS> Should I include some dumps?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: well as you cant boot into -56 you will need to file it from previous kernel, and add your story its about -56
[10:01] <MichaelS> Regarding: GPU: I forgot to mention that in addition I have a VGA provided by the BMC I can use for low level remote login
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: then try to add relevant logs later, as apport will important the logs from the kernel you file it from
[10:02] <MichaelS> yes. Still I am new to reporting Linux bugs and have not the slightest idea what is common to include.
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> apport will include it auto for you
[10:03] <MichaelS> I see apport is a bug reporting tool ...
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> it will import the logs relevant logs, based on the package you chosen to file against, in your case 'linux' (the kernel)
[10:04] <MichaelS> Is see. Let me quickly read some doc ...
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !bug
[10:07] <MichaelS> @ubottu thanks I will try that. So to be sure, I enter "ubuntu-bug linux" and follow instructions?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: yes, it will redirect you to launchpad, then add a title + description, done
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> (you need to have a launchpad account)
[10:08] <MichaelS> I guess I need to run it with sudo?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> no
[10:08] <MichaelS> Hmm, it asked me for authentication 5 times in a row very fast ...
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: are you on a GUI desktop to file the bug?
[10:10] <MichaelS> lotuspsychje: yes, normal UI boot
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> weird
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> never had apport asking me admin pass before
[10:11] <MichaelS> I opened a terminal and entered "ubuntu-bug linux" and then it came up with authetication requests avery 1/2 second - after 5 I CTRL-Ced it.
[10:11] <MichaelS> So should I use "ubuntu-bug" or "apport" ?
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-bug linux should to the trick yeah
[10:13] <MichaelS> Regarding a launchpad account: I have one for Inkscape (vector graphics editor) bug reporting - can I use that?
[10:13] <MichaelS> Let me try again ...
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: are you on a flavour of ubuntu, or ubuntu-desktop?
[10:16] <MichaelS> I have a fairly plain ubuntu-desktop I would say. Maybe reporting to package linux is special - it says it needs authentication for this specific package. I tried again and it asked 3 times and succeeded then after a while.
[10:17] <MichaelS> It now asks "send report to developers". Can I edit it now or later? I guess I get a web link or the like?
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: yep, send report and it will redirect you to LP in a browser
[10:18] <MichaelS> OK
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> you will get a bug ID after the process
[10:29] <MichaelS> lotuspsychje ubottu: thanks for the help! I created bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1998689.
[10:29] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1998689 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS does not boot after update 5.15.0-48 -> 5.15.0-56 - old kernel boots fine" [Undecided, New]
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> looking good MichaelS thank you for reporting this bug and make ubuntu better!
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: now what you could try to do, is find a way to get the dmesg from booting kernel -56
[10:31] <gneeriiloeepdeer> is there a shortcut to disable/enable wifi?
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> and attach it as a new comment on your existing bug
[10:32] <MichaelS> I guess I keep it like this for a while (manually select the kernel during boot) in case there are questions.
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: you will get email notifys, from devs wanting you to take action
[10:32] <MichaelS> lotuspsychje: since it is the same filesystem, wouldn't a previous boot dmesg do it?
[10:34] <MichaelS> Yes - as I said I keep it like this so that I can boot the new kernel as well in case there are questions.
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: (if you can find a way to grab it, like recoverymode or tty) you can try grab -56 dmesg
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: or via journalctl previous boot listings
[10:35] <MichaelS> lotuspsychje: I don't quite get it. In case it gets far enough that it writes dmesg to the file system, can't I just look at it after I boot the old kernel? Doesn't it keep the logs from the last N boots?
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: you could try it from the journal logs, those should be able to list previous boots
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: https://www.loggly.com/ultimate-guide/using-journalctl/
[10:37] <MichaelS> Otherwise the motherboard has a BMC, so I can log into it and record the BMC VGA screen.
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: your current dmesg on the bug shows now 5.15.0-48-generic and the devs interest will be the -56 one
[10:49] <MichaelS> I managed to get the boot log for the old and new kernel boot from journalctl (with -b -1 and -b 0). Should I append both?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: attach only the logs from -56 now
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> MichaelS: as your current bug has all the info already on -48
[10:51] <MichaelS> OK, will do.
[10:51] <MichaelS> Thanks again for the help!
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> welcome MichaelS and good luck, hope it gets solved soon
[10:54] <mariosdaskalas> 20
[11:01] <MichaelS> lotuspsychje: well it it not that bad - as long as the old kernel boots ... I attached the new kernel boot log to the bug report. Let's see.
[11:42] <rapha> hi all!
[11:43] <rapha> does ubuntu server have some ... device ... whereby, ootb, when there's kernel updates available, they get applied automatically?
[11:43] <rapha> and if so, how can i disable it for good?
[11:44] <AlexC> unattanded-upgrades or snap livepatch?
[11:44] <AlexC> livepatch doesn't work ootb
[11:45] <AlexC> unattanded-upgrades just downloads the security updates from the official repos, done
[11:47] <rapha> hmm
[11:47] <rapha> packages were definitely installed
[11:47] <rapha> let me uninstall unattended-upgrades
[11:48] <rapha> ah, yes, it has log files, and it was definitely the culprit
[11:48] <rapha> thank you, AlexC!
[11:48] <bruno_> hallo
[11:49] <bruno_> hallo
[11:50] <AlexC> np
[12:38] <hiya> What is the replacement in AMD for intel-gpu-tools, I wish to check if my Firefox is running hardware accelerated esp. for Youtube.com
[13:19] <gebbione> lotuspsychj3, my experience with ubuntu is pretty much as a user but i am happy to check and report stuff if needed
[13:20] <gebbione> alkisg, i think i have seen the oracle one in my system too
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:32] <Bung> hi. i have got based ubuntu distro
[14:33] <Bung> how can i download microsoft excel?
[14:33] <respawn_> Bung: you have libre office
[14:33] <Bung> is it enough ?
[14:34] <respawn_> and it has libre office calc that is excel
[14:34] <Bung> is it enough for my school?
[14:35] <respawn_> it should be
[14:37] <respawn_> just save in office 2003 xlsx or xlxs
[14:37] <respawn_> so they can open it in Ms office
[15:09] <Liblx> I have firefox installed with snap. Can I install it with apt without removing the snap install? I've to test in both versions.
[15:20] <bm> Do you use a hex editor? What GUI hex editor for Ubuntu would you recommend?
[15:23] <Angs> I have an ultrawide screen on ubuntu 22.04 and would like to organize my display by splitting it into 3 pieces. I found i3 on the internet but it has too different display. Is there any windows tiling manager for ubuntu 22.04 that wouldn't change wayland or xorg display?
[15:51] <jhutchins> bm: Why GUI for hex?
[15:52] <bm> jhutchins: how else would you do it efficiently?
[16:03] <bm> Okay I guess GHex is good enough
[16:15] <jhutchins> Looks like Sleep-In Sunday out there.
[17:18] <gebbione> jhutchins, france vs poland
[17:18] <jhutchins> gebbione: Ah, of course!
[17:19] <jhutchins> gebbione: Silly me, I timeshift everything.
[17:20] <jhutchins> I still haven't finshed F1.
[19:48] <Guest58> E: Package 'mono-dmcs' has no installation candidate
[19:49] <Guest58> I'm on 22.04
[19:49] <tomreyn> !info mono-dmcs jammy
[19:49] <tomreyn> the message is correct.
[19:50] <Guest58> that means ut4 engine does not run on it
[19:50] <Guest58> might try 4.27
[19:50] <Guest58> 5.0 and 5.1 does ask to pay for multiplayer
[19:51] <Guest58> let me ask yourself, has ubuntu made it, outside kids homes?
[19:52] <Guest58> ut5 engine has that simulation thing, where it supposed to be used in some sort of industrial testing application
[19:52] <tomreyn> it's not clear to me what you are trying to achieve, or why you are expecting this package with this exact name to be provided by Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[19:53] <tomreyn> do you want to start with describing this?
[19:53] <Guest58> nvidia says that there stuff will be used in bio engineering etc probably also, not linux related, due to fact, all that is way too slow for me
[19:54] <Guest58> I am into making some stupid game that 90's gad
[19:54] <Guest58> had*
[19:54] <Guest58> like gta 3 or unreal tournament 2003
[19:54] <Guest58> but with my style
[19:55] <tomreyn> let's say this: what is your ubuntu support question?
[19:55] <Guest58> it was since packages weren't there
[19:55] <Guest58> can ubuntu do anything
[19:55] <Guest58> that's not basic
[19:56] <tomreyn> maybe, what you actually want is package mono-mcs
[19:57] <Guest58> it does not work
[19:58] <Guest58> is there computer tech slash linux related chat
[19:58] <tomreyn> there is #linux
[19:59] <Guest58> one thing I really find is that very popular file formats such as .mp4
[19:59] <Guest58> are common thing
[19:59] <tomreyn> but they, too, can only support you when you can describe what you are trying to achieve, or which error messages you are running into.
[19:59] <Guest58> and .jpg and .png
[19:59] <Guest58> and here is that thing, they have reference to actual real
[19:59] <Guest58> world
[19:59] <Guest58> so, they have actual value
[19:59] <Guest58> based on stuff
[20:00] <Guest58> but the thing is, that that seems very viable for somebody to use this as a weakness
[20:00] <Guest58> it would be first thing hacked by actual devices
[20:00] <tomreyn> Guest58: this channel is really just for ubuntu support. if you want to chat about other things, please find a more suitable channel.
[20:00] <Guest58> ubuntu example
[20:01] <Guest58> would be doing something for
[20:01] <Guest58> extremely fucking up the idea that somebody can do that
[20:01] <tomreyn> !language | Guest58
[20:02] <morgan-u2> tomreyn, I dont know where the journal is. I didnt know it was "somewhere". I didnt copy any of the lines re discord. .   . <--yesterday. Today ==> chrome quit. <--yesterday. Today -->  Chrome quit. jorunal just discord till a while bac EVEN THOUGH DISCORD IS NOT RUNNING, but it gives me notifications.  (OTOH chrome has been messing up for years with no discord.)
[20:03] <tomreyn> morgan-u2: the systemd journal (managed by journald) is usually stoed in /var/log/journal - it is in a binary format, though, you need to use the journalctl command to view it.
[20:03] <morgan-u2> and so tomreyn what do I show you, everything? just the end? what kind of thing? Thanks.
[20:04] <morgan-u2> I quit discord yesterday
[20:05] <tomreyn> morgan-u2: i forgot what you were asking the other day, some issues with chrome and discord, i think. i told you these are not ubuntu packages and thus i don't think you will find much support with them here. but that you can look at your journal (as just explained) and see what is logged there by these processes / applications, since it might have relevant information.
[20:05] <morgan-u2> I am so sorry. yesterday I stopped journalctl -f and I didnt restart so everyhting I just said is mostly wrong.
[20:06] <tomreyn> "journalctl -f" prints the last lines added to your journal, when they are. there are other options you can pass to the journalctl command to view past logs.
[20:06] <morgan-u2> I have a zoom meeting, later
[20:07] <tomreyn> journalctl --help    or    man journalctl    should help you get started
[20:11] <morgan-u2> wow, a yellow linke that said asked to register...blah blah appeared in the terminal then vanished. - I looked back and found this yellow line:  Dec 04 12:10:26 seer-OptiPlex-9020 kernel: kauditd_printk_skb: 217 callbacks suppressed
[20:12] <morgan-u2> Dec 04 12:12:26 seer-OptiPlex-9020 kernel: kauditd_printk_skb: 177 callbacks suppressed
[21:33] <FNAShinobi> I'm trying to migrate some files of an old ubuntu install, but keep getting errors reading the input file. Seems like it's timing out trying to read a portion of the file. Should I run badblocks or is there another tool for this sort of thing?
[21:40] <Guest69> why does some packages have -bin ?
[21:40] <Guest69> e.g libsixel-bin
[21:40] <Guest69> what's the difference compared to other pkg without -bin prefix
[22:00] <tomreyn> Guest69: lib...-bin hints at a library package which (unlike others) also contains executables.
[22:02] <tomreyn> FNAShinobi: you should run a file system check while the file system is not mounted writable
[22:02] <tomreyn> FNAShinobi: note that file system checks can be destructive to data - it may be a good idea to create an image of the file system before you do
[22:04] <FNAShinobi> tomreyn: I'm getting the remaining data off now. If it's only the 2 affected files. I'll just reformat. Will that reallocate the blocks?
[22:04] <tomreyn> not automatically, no
[22:05] <tomreyn> when you have disk which runs into timeouts due to unreadable blocks it usually means that all reserved blocks have already been used
[22:05] <tomreyn> which is the latest when a disk should be replaced
[22:06] <tomreyn> you may check the block reallocation status using !smart
[22:06] <tomreyn> you can include badblocks in a fsck
[22:08] <tomreyn> there's also -c to mke2fs
[22:08] <Guest69> got it
[22:28] <anddam> EriC^^: sorry had to go afk this morning
[22:28] <EriC^^> hey anddam no worries
[22:31] <anddam> EriC^^: first thing first, can I register/enable a unit file without placing it in /etc/systemd/system or other unit files directory?
[22:32] <bougyman> anddam: no, that's what those directories are for.
[22:33] <bougyman> You can symlink it, if you prefer.
[22:33] <anddam> I just linked those
[22:33] <anddam> I wanted to keep editing the files with my regular user
[22:33] <bougyman> no problem.
[22:34] <anddam> oh it's working
[22:34] <anddam> I enabled service and timer, then started timer
[22:35] <anddam> is the [Install] required in the service? I think I read when using a .timer file the Install section would be just carried by that
[22:38] <anddam> I started the whole shebang again, removing the target file, it is root:root 644 so I wonder why in any case the timer could not write in it
[22:40] <anddam> this periodic running is a bit odd
[22:40] <anddam> I get https://termbin.com/5v4ou from OnCalendar=*:*:0/5
[22:41] <anddam> I expected a date every 5 seconds
[22:51] <anddam> OnCalendar=*:*:0 is spot on though, and that is enough
[22:51] <anddam> am I wrong that *:*:0/5 means every 5 seconds?
[22:52] <bougyman> No idea. Never used timers.
[22:52] <anddam> that makes two of us
[22:52] <bougyman> I use snooze for timed operations.
[22:58] <anddam> don't give me more bad ideas
[22:59] <X_Chat> whew
[22:59] <X_Chat> finally
[23:00] <X_Chat> check
[23:01] <anddam> that was weird
[23:05] <johnny_Linux> I get it
[23:06] <johnny_Linux> interesting
[23:07] <johnny_Linux> builds have secret part #'s
[23:08] <leftyfb> johnny_Linux: can we help you with something?
[23:08] <johnny_Linux> ive been an electronic engineer 40+yrs.  we seen it coming. im quiet.
[23:11] <johnny_Linux> leftyfb,  maybe, depending upon you resilience as well as academic decorum
[23:11] <leftyfb> johnny_Linux: this is an ubuntu support channel. Please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything else
[23:12] <johnny_Linux> leftyfb,  thats why I am here.. please respond to my last statement. tThanks.
[23:12] <leftyfb> johnny_Linux: what is your ubuntu support question?
[23:13] <johnny_Linux> I am looking for a job
[23:13] <leftyfb> johnny_Linux: that is offtopic here
[23:13] <johnny_Linux> TO support Ubuntu
[23:13] <leftyfb> johnny_Linux: that is offtopic here
[23:14] <leftyfb> johnny_Linux: please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion
[23:14] <johnny_Linux> I appologize i was under the imoresion that you, on a personal level could accommodate my malfeasance
[23:15] <johnny_Linux> Thank you for your time