=== _doko is now known as doko
[15:59] <bdrung> \o
[15:59] <jawn-smith> o/
[16:00] <ginggs> o/
[16:00] <danilogondolfo> \o
[16:00] <slyon> o/
[16:00] <jawn-smith> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:01] <jawn-smith> The weekly status is here:
[16:01] <jawn-smith> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-8-december-2022/32576
[16:01] <jawn-smith> Let's take our usual time to read and ask questions
[16:03] <bdrung> bdmurray, can you point me to the code of apport-test? Should we add some API test cases to avoid future breakage?
[16:04] <bdmurray> bdrung: https://code.launchpad.net/~daisy-pluckers/error-tracker-deployment/test-crashes
[16:08] <jawn-smith> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:08] <bdrung> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~daisy-pluckers/error-tracker-deployment/test-crashes/revision/97 -> using an internal method sounds wrong to me. Recently I added a "no UI" UI object for rejecting all questions.
[16:08] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:08] <jawn-smith> bug 1998095
[16:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1998095 in pkgconf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pkgconf, replacement for pkg-config" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998095
[16:09] <bdmurray> bdrung: I didn't feel great about that change
[16:09] <jawn-smith> Ah yes, we wanted to ask vorlon about this
[16:10] <vorlon> if you're asking me, I don't see any reason we would want to keep the older implementation
[16:10] <juliank> do it
[16:10] <slyon> ack
[16:10] <jawn-smith> so would pkg-config get demoted?
[16:10] <vorlon> the interfaces are all-in-all pretty stable and I don't have any particular attachment to the old implementation
[16:10] <jawn-smith> or both in main?
[16:10] <juliank> jawn-smith: remove from archive?
[16:10] <jawn-smith> even better
[16:10] <juliank> or demote
[16:11] <vorlon> pkg-config will be a removal as soon as pkgconf is clear
[16:11] <vorlon> (Debian has already removed it from unstable)
[16:11] <juliank> ack
[16:11] <juliank> also hooray
[16:11] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:11] <jawn-smith> bug 1842439
[16:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1842439 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "apport-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in _gtk_settings_get_screen(settings=0x0) from gtk_css_value_icon_theme_compute() from gtk_css_static_style_compute_value()" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842439
[16:11] <jawn-smith> This is the one that's been with desktop for a while
[16:12] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: you mentioned a desktop sync meeting at which you could bring this up?
[16:12] <juliank> no news on the bug
[16:12] <bdmurray> yes
[16:12] <jawn-smith> Great, thanks bdmurray
[16:12] <jawn-smith> That's it for kk
[16:12] <jawn-smith> light on bugs this week
[16:12] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:12] <jawn-smith> bug 1965094
[16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1965094 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "'Additional Drivers' application crashes on startup" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1965094
[16:13] <jawn-smith> IIRC this is also with desktop?
[16:13] <bdmurray> no that's kernel team
[16:13] <jawn-smith> Still nothing to do for us?
[16:14] <bdmurray> Unless julian knows how to fix it
[16:14] <jawn-smith> Okay, moving on
[16:14] <bdmurray> There are 1000s of crashes so I'd rather just get it sorted
[16:14] <jawn-smith> oh, not moving on
[16:14] <jawn-smith> juliank: do you know how to fix it?
[16:14] <juliank> I haven't looked
[16:15] <juliank> should be fine yeah
[16:15] <bdmurray> We can move on
[16:15] <jawn-smith> Okay thanks
[16:15] <jawn-smith> bug 1992369
[16:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1992369 in fonts-dejavu (Ubuntu) "DejaVu Serif Italic capital letters and digits broken" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992369
[16:15] <jawn-smith> danilogondolfo: you were working on this one right?
[16:16] <danilogondolfo> yes, it appears to be a problem with the font build system, rebuilding the package on kinetic and lunar fixes the font
[16:16] <jawn-smith> But not jammy
[16:16] <jawn-smith> so we might need to SRU fontforge?
[16:17] <vorlon> unrelated to the emoji font toolchain sru that just happened?
[16:17] <vorlon> yeah shouldn't build-dep on that, but does b-d on fontforge
[16:20] <bdmurray> It sounds like the bug is only visible when a user has a specific configuration so I don't think its worth SRU'ing
[16:21] <bdmurray> Let's move on
[16:21] <jawn-smith> Should we keep the tag? Or should it be removed?
[16:22] <bdmurray> rls-jj-notfixing
[16:22] <bdmurray> I'll do it
[16:23] <juliank> bdmurray: so bug 1965094 is a dup of 1964880 and got fixed, so I remembered correctly
[16:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1964880 in software-properties (Ubuntu Jammy) "software-properties-gtk crashed with AttributeError in packages_for_modalias(): 'Cache' object has no attribute 'packages'" [High, Fix Released] [duplicate: 1965094] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1964880
[16:23] <jawn-smith> Great, moving on
[16:23] <jawn-smith> #topic proposed-migration
[16:23] <jawn-smith>  #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:23] <jawn-smith> vorlon:
[16:24] <vorlon> only 146 packages needing attention
[16:24] <vorlon> so I'll try to assign 1 to everyone present and move on
[16:24] <jawn-smith> oh vpa mentioned he would work on java-common
[16:25] <ginggs> nothing to do for node-jquery or python3-defaults
[16:25] <vorlon> ginggs: does that mean you're already solving node-jquery? not obvious to me that there's nothing to do
[16:26] <vorlon> java-common: vpa<tab>
[16:26] <ginggs> there's a test in the queue waiting to run
[16:26] <vorlon> anything listed as 'Depends on perl' we should skip
[16:26] <vorlon> ginggs: ack
[16:26] <vorlon> libfilesys-df-perl: autopkgtest regression, I'll skip those as well because I'm still in the process of retrying them with necessary options
[16:27] <vorlon> cryptsetup blocking vim
[16:27] <vorlon> this might be fixed by vpa's work, and needs retry now?
[16:27] <vorlon> jawn-smith to retry
[16:27] <vorlon> cryptsetup: jawn-smith
[16:28] <vorlon> jawn-smith: do you also want to look at the vim-ultisnips autopkgtest failure against vim?
[16:28] <jawn-smith> Sure
[16:28] <vorlon> thanks
[16:28] <vorlon> apt vs postgresql-debversion, might just need --all-proposed test retry. juliank ?
[16:28] <samirkamerkar> I believe vpa has looked at cryptsetup as well
[16:28] <juliank> vorlon: hmm it should try all-proposed automatically shouldn't it?
[16:28] <juliank> it does sometimes
[16:29] <vorlon> juliank: there's a fallback on uninstallability to try to install from -proposed.  Can you take it to look into?
[16:30] <vorlon> jawn-smith: and then there's a run of other packages blocked by cryptsetup autopkgtests, which is almost certainly the test progression rather than a regression. Do you want to take them all? (json-c, popt, libjson-perl)
[16:30] <vorlon> debianutils vs mysql-8.0: adrien can you take this?
[16:30] <jawn-smith> vorlon: sure
[16:30] <vorlon> expat vs pypy: bdrung ?
[16:30] <vorlon> init-system-helpers: bdmurray ?
[16:31] <vorlon> libffi vs pypy: dbungert ?
[16:31] <dbungert> vorlon: ack for libffi vs pypy
[16:31] <bdmurray> Sure I was looking at init-system-helpers yesterday
[16:31] <bdrung> yes, i can look into expat and pypy
[16:31] <vorlon> lv4 vs mysql-8.0 and python-lz4: danilogondolfo ?
[16:32] <danilogondolfo> vorlon: ack
[16:32] <vorlon> sorry, that's l*z*4
[16:32] <vorlon> lz4 vs mysql-8.0 and python-lz4: danilogondolfo
[16:32] <vorlon> popt vs gdisk and svox: waveform ?
[16:32] <waveform> vorlon, avk
[16:32] <vorlon> psycopg2 vs pg-partman: ginggs ?
[16:32] <ginggs> sure
[16:32] <vorlon> pycairo vs comitup: doko ?
[16:33] <vorlon> python-dateutil vs cloudkitty, pcs: enr0n ?
[16:33] <vorlon> and I think that gives everyone one who needs one
[16:34] <vorlon> jawn-smith: fwiw a `retry-autopkgtest-regressions --all-proposed | grep '=cryptsetup%2F'`, like I talked about on the mailing list, is probably the quickest way to clear all related failures
[16:34] <jawn-smith> sweet, thanks
[16:35] <vorlon> and that's it for proposed-migration then
[16:35] <vorlon> jawn-smith:
[16:35] <jawn-smith> #topic AOB
[16:35] <enr0n> vorlon: can do
[16:35] <adrien> vorlon: sure
[16:35] <jawn-smith> only one more of these meetings this year
[16:35] <vorlon> not for me, this is my last for the year :)
[16:35] <jawn-smith> Any extended absences coming up?
[16:35] <jawn-smith> I'll be off tomorrow in the morning and all of Dec 16
[16:35] <vorlon> I'm EOY tomorrow
[16:35] <slyon> I'll be EOY on Tuesday
[16:35] <bdrung> bdmurray, regarding test-crashes: Since apport commit f8edc7280d492e710218c193e53542f1f86cfa91 you can use r.add_hooks_info(apport.ui.NoninteractiveHookUI())
[16:35] <ginggs> i'm also out on december 16
[16:36] <jbicha> there's also bug 1998970 for proposed-migration
[16:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1998970 in pypy (Ubuntu) "Remove pypy from lunar" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998970
[16:40] <jawn-smith> #endmeeting
[16:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:40:29 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-12-08-16.00.moin.txt
[16:45] <vorlon> jbicha: why is that bug marked incomplete, and why is that for us if it's marked incomplete?
[16:46] <vorlon> your bug report also fails to list *binary* reverse-dependencies...
[16:46] <jbicha> vorlon: it's incomplete because Archive Admins can't remove the package yet
[16:48] <jbicha> it's blocking the python 3.11 transition