[00:04] <KGB-2> gnome-software ubuntu/master 5fa0de8 Jeremy Bicha debian/ control control.in * Restore explicit Build-Depends on libsoup-3.0-dev * https://deb.li/77se
[00:04] <KGB-2> gnome-software ubuntu/master 8cf5b1d Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gnome-software version 43.2-3 * https://deb.li/3FYF0
[00:04] <KGB-2> gnome-software ubuntu/master 1e91a01 Jeremy Bicha debian/ changelog control control.in * Merge tag 'debian/43.2-3' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/aSUA
[00:04] <KGB-2> gnome-software ubuntu/master 807954f Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gnome-software version 43.2-3ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3u5Yi
[06:58] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:13] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hello 
[07:13] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz 
[07:33] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN and ricotz 
[08:22] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[08:28] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[08:29] <seb128> duflu, hey, how are you? managing to wrap up things before holidays?
[08:31] <duflu> seb128, not feeling 100% today but succeeding in wrapping up (and then closing my eyes so I can't see anything till next year)
[08:32] <duflu> seb128, how are you?
[08:32] <seb128> I'm alright thanks!
[10:42] <KGB-2> gnome-session Will Thompson 360714 * commented merge request !8 * https://deb.li/e8Mx
[12:49] <jbicha> happy Friday!
[12:52] <ogra> hrm
[12:52] <ogra> who made the decision to package gedit as a strict snap ? 
[12:53] <ogra> (and why)
[12:54] <ogra> editors and IDEs are exactly the reason why classic snaps exist at all ... and we seem to get more and more users in #ubuntu that blindly installed the snap from the store ("hey there is a newer version !") and can not edit their own hidden config files anymore 
[13:04] <juliank> yikes gnome-terminal doesn't appear to be sending startup notifications anymore
[13:04] <juliank> try an upgraded lunar system and open the terminal, it won't appear in alt+tab and the cursor keeps spinning until the startup notification protocol times ouit
[13:07] <jbicha> juliank: yeah, I see it takes 15 seconds for it to resolve
[13:07] <juliank> neat
[13:08] <juliank> this is a lot better than the same issue in Chrome that's only reproducible with my profile :)
[13:08] <juliank> jbicha: thanks for confirming
[13:09] <juliank> oh also my mouse cursor disappears over the terminal windows in wayland now
[13:09] <juliank> hooray
[13:09] <jbicha> you could try gnome-console as an alternative. Debian bug 1017015 is annoying but otherwise, I've been using it for months without a problem
[13:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Debian bug 1017015 in src:gnome-console "gnome-console: copying won't work if end of line is selected" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1017015
[13:09] <juliank> is that a new replacement?
[13:09] <juliank> is gnome-terminal dead?
[13:10] <ogra> the new upstream replacement at least
[13:10] <jbicha> we had a MIR for it last cycle, but it got stalled on that bug & Didier wanted a purple background :)
[13:10] <jbicha> GNOME has switched their recommended terminal to Console, but gnome-terminal is still maintained by its maintainer
[13:11] <juliank> gnome-console has a huge cursor
[13:11] <jbicha> However, most distros are still using Terminal (including Fedora) because Console is quite minimal
[13:11] <juliank> I think my cursor is screwed up
[13:12] <juliank> it uses the 200% scaling from my internal screen on my external when hovering over console
[13:12] <jbicha> yeah, big cursor sounds like scaling
[13:13] <juliank> ok this is a more generic issue
[13:13] <juliank> :D
[13:13] <juliank> the cursor only works in xwayland and hovering the shell, but not in wayland apps
[13:14] <jbicha> juliank: ha, I installed updates in my Lunar VM, logged out and logged back in and Terminal starts up cleaner now
[13:14] <juliank> I think I'll try a new session to something is weird
[13:15] <juliank> I mean this is a fresh session after reboot
[13:15] <juliank> oh well
[13:15] <juliank> I suspended
[13:15] <juliank> Let me just reboot
[13:15] <jbicha> juliank: never mind, it comes up cleanly if I use Ctrl+T or if I use Alt-F2 gnome-terminal but now with the Activities Overview
[13:15] <jbicha> *not with
[13:16] <jbicha> Ctrl+Alt+T
[13:19] <jbicha> juliank: I found an upstream issue/commit that might fix this startup glitch
[13:19] <juliank> jbicha: hmm dconf-editor also fails to notify, so I think it's a gnome-shell / mutter bug?
[13:19] <jbicha> juliank: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal/-/issues/7952 blames gtk3
[13:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Issue 7952 in GNOME/gnome-terminal "Fix for build error and misassignment related to recent XDG-Activation support" [Closed]
[13:19] <juliank> I think dconf-editor is also gtk3
[13:19] <jbicha> yes
[13:20] <juliank> so we need to cherry-pick https://gitlab.gnome.org/joanbrugueram/gtk/-/commit/ab4e8604664ffb22574488135c6b55e0f8d2f8ef
[13:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Commit ab4e860 in joanbrugueram/gtk "gdk/wayland: save custom xdg-activation startup_id"
[13:20] <jbicha> yes
[13:21] <juliank> well https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/5301/commits
[13:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Merge 5301 in GNOME/gtk "fixes for xdg-activation regressions (GTK3)" [Opened]
[13:24] <juliank> oh god console requires a lot of work
[13:24] <juliank> I think I need to install custom dbus services for my custom app-id terminal windows
[13:24] <juliank> I have gnome-terminal --disable-factory --class weechat-ssh --name weechat-ssh --app-id org.weechat.weechat-ssh --title WeeChat -- ssh -oControlMaster=no -i /home/jak/.ssh/weechat_ssh_id_rsa -o IdentitiesOnly=yes -t weechat@10.0.0.1 -- tmux attach -dt ir
[13:25] <juliank> jak@jak-t14-g3:~/.local/share$ kgx --gapplication-app-id=org.weechat.weechat-ssh --title WeeChat 
[13:25] <juliank> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Application does not handle command line arguments
[13:25] <juliank> jak@jak-t14-g3:~/.local/share$ kgx --gapplication-service --gapplication-app-id=org.weechat.weechat-ssh --title WeeChat 
[13:25] <juliank> Failed to register: Unable to acquire bus name 'org.weechat.weechat-ssh
[13:25] <juliank> It doesn't like that :D
[13:28] <jbicha> it's minimal but gnome-terminal will still be around even after we switch
[13:41] <KGB-2> gtk3 ubuntu/master d42e6c7 Jeremy Bicha debian/patches/ series gdk-wayland-save-custom-xdg-activation-startup_id.patch window-focus-on-window-show-for-wayland-activation.patch * Cherry-pick 2 proposed patches to fix app startup regressions * https://deb.li/3GJK1
[13:41] <KGB-2> gtk3 ubuntu/master d89b3d0 Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gtk+3.0 version 3.24.35-3 * https://deb.li/3wZ3d
[13:42] <KGB-2> gtk3 ubuntu/master 6eecc2b Jeremy Bicha debian/ changelog patches/series patches/gdk-wayland-save-custom-xdg-activation-startup_id.patch patches/window-focus-on-window-show-for-wayland-activation.patch * Merge tag 'debian/3.24.35-3' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/it8JV
[13:42] <KGB-2> gtk3 ubuntu/master da41bd5 Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gtk+3.0 version 3.24.35-3ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/zaC
[17:33] <juliank> jbicha: Thanks a bunch, just upgraded to proposed, works well
[17:35] <juliank> For some reason gnome-console now also works for my weechat ssh --app-id use case, weird
[17:35] <juliank> but the color scheme is bleh
[17:36] <juliank> now just need to get my cursor back when in a terminal window, lol
[17:36] <juliank> oh, the cursor is gone in any gtk3 app too
[17:37] <juliank> gtk4 cursor has the scaling from the wrong screen and gtk3 cursor is MIA
[17:38] <juliank> In a vanilla gnome session, didn't check the ubuntu session
[17:39] <juliank> OK, no cursor theme was set
[17:39] <juliank> or well one that doesn't exist (anymore)
[17:40] <juliank> cursor-theme = "Adwaita"
[17:41] <juliank> ah I was missing adwaita-icon-theme-full
[17:41] <juliank> I wonder if vanilla-gnome-default-settings shouldn't depend on the themes it's setting
[17:44] <juliank> jbicha: when you uploaded ubuntu-gnome-default-settings did you commit that somewhere? The bzr branch seems to have died with focal
[17:44] <juliank> I think I want to upload that with vanilla-gnome-default-settings Depends adwaita-icon-theme-full added
[17:44] <juliank> So that if people install that they have a cursor :)
[17:46]  * juliank needs to add a local changes to his Ansible playbook for redeployment, sigh
[17:56] <jbicha> juliank: I think gnome-session should depend on adwaita-icon-theme-full. That change is staged in Salsa for Debian
[17:57] <jbicha> I've been telling people to just install gnome-session instead of the vanilla thing
[17:59] <jbicha> vanilla-gnome-default-settings shouldn't be needed anymore; those overrides should be set in ubuntu-settings and vanilla-gnome-default-settings could be a transitional package
[18:17] <KGB-0> balsa Jeremy Bicha 360826 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/3Mdwd
[18:57] <KGB-2> balsa upstream/latest ab8300a Jeremy Bicha * pushed 167 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ZdfN
[18:57] <KGB-2> balsa upstream/latest b07cdd3 Albrecht Dreß (18 files in 4 dirs) * notification improvements: play sound, basic system tray icon support * https://deb.li/3LTix
[18:57] <KGB-2> balsa upstream/latest 682e6ac Peter Bloomfield (18 files in 4 dirs) * Merge branch '77-notification' into 'master' * https://deb.li/0GAg
[18:57] <KGB-2> balsa upstream/latest 92dcf10 Peter Bloomfield images/meson.build meson.build * images/meson.build: Clean up icon-cache code * https://deb.li/ipkhl
[18:58] <KGB-2> balsa upstream/latest 290994a Yuri Chornoivan po/uk.po * Update Ukrainian translation * https://deb.li/jGMs
[18:58] <KGB-2> balsa upstream/latest 5b05874 Peter Bloomfield libnetclient/meson.build libnetclient/test/meson.build meson.build * meson.build: Meson deprecation cleanup * https://deb.li/3ZkLU
[18:58] <KGB-2> balsa pristine-tar 80bd2c8 Jeremy Bicha balsa_2.6.4.orig.tar.xz.delta balsa_2.6.4.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for balsa_2.6.4.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/BTjn
[19:02] <KGB-0> anjuta Jeremy Bicha 360832 * commented merge request !1 * https://deb.li/xh2D
[19:10] <KGB-2> babl Jeremy Bicha 360834 * commented merge request !4 * https://deb.li/PThE
[19:32] <KGB-2> bst-external signed tags 8b24643 Jeremy Bicha upstream/0.29.0 * Upstream version 0.29.0 * https://deb.li/6091
[19:32] <KGB-2> bst-external pristine-tar eea3219 Jeremy Bicha bst-external_0.29.0.orig.tar.bz2.delta bst-external_0.29.0.orig.tar.bz2.id * pristine-tar data for bst-external_0.29.0.orig.tar.bz2 * https://deb.li/4vI0
[19:57] <KGB-0> cheese Jeremy Bicha 360837 * commented merge request !3 * https://deb.li/WIkM
[19:58] <KGB-2> gnome-session Simon McVittie 360839 * commented merge request !8 * https://deb.li/AvF4
[20:02] <KGB-2> cheese Jeremy Bicha 360841 * commented merge request !1 * https://deb.li/3YfVl
[20:04] <KGB-0> cheese Jeremy Bicha 360842 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/34Hdx
[21:50] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector upstream/latest a59c153 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 105 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/QoaV
[21:50] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector upstream/latest 9c9130c Yuri Konotopov gnome-browser-connector gnome_browser_connector/logging.py * Added custom logger name abbr filter * https://deb.li/3DlDg
[21:50] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector upstream/latest 71a0da8 Yuri Konotopov README.md gnome-browser-connector meson.build * meson: drop requests from dependencies * https://deb.li/B4pN
[21:50] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector upstream/latest 98c3c70 Yuri Konotopov gnome_browser_connector/application.py meson.build contrib/org.gnome.BrowserConnector.desktop contrib/org.gnome.BrowserConnector.service.in * Rename DBus service name to org.gnome.BrowserConnector * https://deb.li/3TRzx
[21:50] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector upstream/latest 7382b91 Yuri Konotopov meson.build contrib/org.gnome.browser_connector.firefox.json contrib/org.gnome.browser_connector.json * Rename native messaging manifest file to org.gnome.browser_connector * https://deb.li/LRuy
[21:50] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector upstream/latest 2413ee3 Yuri Konotopov meson.build contrib/org.gnome.chrome_gnome_shell.firefox.json contrib/org.gnome.chrome_gnome_shell.json * Revert "Rename native messaging manifest file to org.gnome.browser_connector" * https://deb.li/3qoR4
[21:55] <KGB-2> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468328 * pending (extract-source: pending; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[21:56] <KGB-2> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468328 * running (extract-source: running; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[22:03] <KGB-2> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468328 * [6 minutes and 25 seconds] failed (extract-source: success; build: success; build i386: success; build source: success; test-build-any: success; test-build-all: success; test-crossbuild-arm64: success; reprotest: success; lintian: success; autopkgtest: success; blhc: success; piuparts: failed)
[22:07] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468333 * pending (extract-source: pending; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[22:24] <KGB-2> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468342 * pending (extract-source: pending; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[22:24] <KGB-2> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468342 * running (extract-source: running; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[22:33] <KGB-0> gnome-browser-connector pipeline Jeremy Bicha 468342 * [8 minutes and 8 seconds] success (extract-source: success; build: success; build i386: success; build source: success; test-build-any: success; test-build-all: success; test-crossbuild-arm64: success; reprotest: success; lintian: success; autopkgtest: success; blhc: success; piuparts: success)
[22:58] <KGB-0> brasero Jeremy Bicha 360859 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/RF8G
[23:00] <holmanb> I've been putting off reporting a multi-monitor bug since I'm not sure which project to report to. I see an issue frequently when I switch a window from my secondary monitor (portrait right) to my primary monitor (landscape). After switching monitors, the window fails to resize and the top of the window renders offscreen.
[23:01] <holmanb> When this happens, gnome usually doesn't allow me to switch the window back to the portrait right monitor and I kill and restart the app
[23:02] <holmanb> Where best to report?