[00:10] <FNAShinobi> is gapcmon no longer supported with 22.04?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> !info gapcmon jammy | FNAShinobi
[00:13] <FNAShinobi> what are people using to monitor it?
[00:14] <sarnold>         A Gtk2/GLib2 GUI application used to monitor UPS devices controlled
[00:14] <oerheks> vnstat ?
[00:14] <sarnold> hmm, there's still a bunch of gtk2 things in my apt-cache search gtk2 .. I wonder ..
[00:15] <sarnold> ah here's the change where it was removed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apcupsd/3.14.14-2
[00:17] <FNAShinobi> any recommendations on an alternate application? Power Statistics in gnome shows 0 data from my apc ups.
[01:05] <bluesceada> I get problems with snap over and over again that seem to be fixable by rebooting, is there another way to reload the snapd or something like that?
[01:05] <bluesceada> # snap-store
[01:06] <bluesceada> /snap/snapd/17883/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine: symbol lookup error: /snap/snapd/17883/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine: undefined symbol: , version GLIBC_2.2.5
[01:06] <bluesceada> just an example ...
[01:06] <WaV>  snap-store --quit && sudo snap refresh may fix the issue without rebooting
[01:06] <WaV> oh that may be something entirely differnet
[01:06] <WaV> different*
[01:10] <bluesceada> WaV, I now tried to remove and install snap-store again, but the install fails similarly -.-
[01:11] <sarnold> o_O
[01:11] <sarnold> what a strange error message
[01:11] <bluesceada> I have almost none of these snaps but they cause problems over and over again :( ... the idea is good, but it is just super buggy
[01:11] <sarnold> does 'ubuntu-bug snap-store' succeed well enough to file a bug report? it's hard to report bugs on the snaps, I think this sometimes works..
[01:12] <bluesceada> the snap-store is not there anymore so it complains it is about a non-installed package
[01:12] <bluesceada> > snap install snap-store
[01:12] <bluesceada> error: cannot perform the following tasks:
[01:12] <bluesceada> - Run configure hook of "snap-store" snap if present (run hook "configure": /snap/snapd/17883/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine: symbol lookup error: /snap/snapd/17883/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine: undefined symbol: , version GLIBC_2.2.5)
[01:13] <bluesceada> I only have these massive problems on my fresh installed 22.04 notebook, not my 18.04->20.04->22.04 desktop
[01:14] <bluesceada> (i had ugly scaling of cursors and cursor theming in some snap packages on both systems, but not these actual errors)
[01:16] <sarnold> bluesceada: okay, if ubuntu-bug fails .. post in
[01:16] <sarnold> 	
[01:16] <sarnold> 	5 	7.7k 	12d
[01:17] <sarnold> ARGH I HATE FIREFOX SO MUCH
[01:17] <sarnold> https://forum.snapcraft.io/
[01:17] <bluesceada> Ah yeah, when using the file picker in the firefox snap (like to select a file for upload) I sometimes got a segfault in some gtk lib as well, firefox kept working but I needed to click again
[01:17] <bluesceada> yeah not now, I thought I might get a quick reply here how to restart snap without my whole system
[01:19] <sarnold> *nod*
[01:50] <morgan-u2> ok this "new" computer (that smells like electronic dust, sticks at the same place aagain during 22.04 installation. (> creating ext4 file system for / in partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda...) -- what next? is there a way to check the 1T hard drive?
[01:51] <morgan-u2> the happening dial is just spinning its hear out.
[01:53] <sarnold> try using control+alt+f2 or f3 or similar to get a new terminal, then check dmesg output; there might be error messages logged to the kernel message buffer
[01:53] <tomreyn> morgan-u2: or just ctrl-alt-t
[01:53] <tomreyn> (spawning a virtual terminal, then dmesg)
[01:54] <sarnold> oo that works? neato
[01:55] <tomreyn> on gnome desktop, yes
[01:55] <sarnold> I haven't actually seen our desktop installer in years..
[01:55] <tomreyn> it did not really change in years either
[02:07] <morgan-u2> Ok I got a terminal and what would I do to get the messages? ie I see none.
[02:07] <sarnold> dmesg
[02:07] <Sven_vB> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu focal. Is there a good way to measure how much of a bottle neck my number of CPU cores is, and how much performance for the current activities would improve if I had a few more cores of similar power?
[02:08] <sarnold> Sven_vB: that's actually *really* hard to tell.. top or htop can give you a good first approximation
[02:08] <morgan-u2> dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: opeation not permitted.  tomreyn sarnold
[02:09] <Sven_vB> sarnold, what should I look for? avg. load? is that how many times the current number of cores I'd need for optimum performance?
[02:09] <tomreyn> morgan-u2: use sudo
[02:09] <tomreyn> sudo dmesg
[02:09] <sarnold> Sven_vB: brendan gregg has a 'USE method' for diagnosing these styles of problems; here's a nice quick cheatsheet that might get you a long way, but there's probably better tools for most of these needs now.. https://www.brendangregg.com/USEmethod/use-linux.html
[02:10] <sarnold> Sven_vB: load average isn't as useful as top's %Cpu(s): line or htop's bar-charts
[02:11] <Sven_vB> most CPU bars are at 40 to 50% most of the time
[02:12] <sarnold> alright, my next favourite is to run 'vmstat -w 1' and check for the disk IO, swap IO numbers
[02:13] <sarnold> ideally swap IO numbers are long columns of zeros
[02:13] <tomreyn> what you probably won't be able to tell reliably is whether some busy (near 100%, if you have those) cores will be less busy if you have more cores, because you'd need to know whether what is keeping those cores busy is single or multi threaded code.
[02:14] <sarnold> tomreyn: and once, I had a workload that would have made more progress with *fewer* cores, because all the CPUs were stomping all over each other trying to acquire a spinlock :) hehe
[02:14] <tomreyn> ugh
[02:16] <tomreyn> so i guess the only way to really tell is to compare the same workload (if you can make it comparable / rpeproducible / synthetic) on similar cpu models (same generation), with less and more cpu cores
[02:17] <tomreyn> but even that may be a bad comparion if those CPUs have different features, different amounts of caches etc
[02:17] <sarnold> hehe yeah, but hopefully there's some hints whether the money would be better spent on ram, or disk, or network, or cpu, without actually spending money on all of them to find out
[02:18] <sarnold> and for that, we have saint gregg to thank :)
[02:20] <Sven_vB> near 100% busy cores only happens for the first few seconds of htop running. after that, it's very rare to see any CPU bar over 90%.
[02:21] <jhutchins> There was a "feature" in VMWare that meant if you assigned multiple cores to a VM, that VM had to wait until that many of the host cores were free before it got a CPU tick.  They emphasized that multi-core should not be applied unless it was proven in testing to be necessary.
[02:22] <sarnold> jhutchins: hmmm, is that the VM wouldn't even be started if its needs couldn'mt be met? or was that something that affected every single scheduling operation every ten microseconds?
[02:23] <Sven_vB> disks are probably fast enough because an additional large copy operation doesn't impact performance much. and I don't use swap.
[02:23] <jhutchins> sarnold: The latter.
[02:23] <sarnold> jhutchins: *yikes* :)
[02:23] <jhutchins> sarnold: Depends on how busy your hosts are.
[02:23] <sarnold> jhutchins: I can see a case for the former..
[02:24] <sarnold> Sven_vB: depending upon what the disk IO is, then, perhaps you'd be better suited to add some swap
[02:25] <jhutchins> This VMWare feature was a while back now, I believe they found a more effective way to manage things.
[02:25] <sarnold> I hope so :)
[02:25] <jhutchins> Still, the message "don't be stupid about throwing cores at everything" is still true.
[02:26] <sarnold> *nod*
[02:26] <Sven_vB> sarnold, should I really use a swap even if I can afford more RAM?
[02:26] <sarnold> Sven_vB: yeah, the kernel can make better decisions about what to keep in memory if you have some swap
[02:26] <Sven_vB> also RAM doesn't even seem to be short.
[02:27] <Sven_vB> htop's RAM bar says 2.02G/3.68G
[02:27] <Sven_vB> and free -m says 1716 used
[02:31] <Sven_vB> nevermind, the most hungry service wasn't even running. also if it depends much on CPU features, I should wait until I get the actual candidate hardware and compare there.
[02:31] <Sven_vB> thanks for the USE link though :)
[02:32] <sarnold> there's *months* of great reading on his website, his books, etc ;)
[02:33] <sarnold> 50% cpu use and the main app isn't even there? I've got a feeling you'll want more hardware soon enough, hehe
[02:35] <Sven_vB> yeah, I'll soon get a preview of what I can have next year. that's why I was trying to learn what to measure once they arrive.
[02:59] <pp> m
[03:02] <FranciscoBergogl> ok
[03:06] <Bergoglio> fr
[03:07] <Bergoglio> tk
[04:37] <Square> What does this prompt mean https://imgur.com/a/IQcfux8 ? The wording "Upgrade" makes thinking its about to upgrade to a new "major" release. I'm on 22.04 so I assume 22.10.
[04:48] <morgan-u2> I gather that I should use sudo fsck /dev/sda2 ----- but that just eturns clean IMMEDIATELY and numger of files and blocks.
[05:13] <morgan-u2> Ok and it's no answers so it is sleep for me.
[06:57] <alkisg> Square: run the following from a terminal,it shows better error messages: sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade
[07:10] <illuminated> any idea on how to open vlc from cron... when doing so it 'looks different' than launching it from a terminal and doesn't register in my kde connect app
[07:11] <illuminated> not sure why
[07:22] <BlackOps> wildly full circle today
[07:22] <BlackOps> And, yet, it ends on a good note and I have no technical questions or issues so I will leave.
[07:33] <alkisg> illuminated: running GUI apps from cron isn't a good idea. Running them on startup via /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop, even adding some delay, will allow them to have proper environment
[07:33] <alkisg> Setting DISPLAY isn't enough, it's better that they belong in the same cgroup as the session, have the same DBUS and all
[07:34] <illuminated> well, what I'm trying to do is create an alarm clock via shoutcast and vlc
[07:34] <illuminated> i can get it working
[07:34] <illuminated> but vlc opens 'different'  it looks different
[07:34] <illuminated> and doesn't register in the lock screen or my kde connect app
[07:35] <alkisg> Run the script from /etc/xdg/autostart, and have it wait for the correct time, and lauch vlc then
[07:35] <alkisg> E.g. sleep $((desired_time - current_time)); vlc
[07:36] <alkisg> Or use a dedicated application, e.g.: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/alarm-clock-applet.1.html
[07:39] <illuminated> thanks man
[07:39] <illuminated> i'll look into this more
[07:39] <alkisg> 👍️
[08:00] <illuminated> thanks man, I was able to get somethin workin with kalarm
[09:51] <masber> hi, is it possible to show battery percentage in the status bar?
[09:52] <masber> I followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-percentage.html.en but the option seems missing in my power settings window
[11:15] <User1234> hi
[11:16] <bingoJACKPOT> bah
[11:22] <bingoJACKPOT> Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
[11:22] <bingoJACKPOT> Gonna grab some afternoon delight
[11:22] <bingoJACKPOT> My motto's always been 'when it's right, it's right'
[11:22] <bingoJACKPOT> Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night?
[11:22] <bingoJACKPOT> When everything's a little clearer in the light of day
[11:22] <bingoJACKPOT> And we know the night is always gonna be there any way
[11:27] <Dr0ne> C -> KICK #ubuntu Drone
[11:28] <Unit193> Dr0ne: Quit playing around in here.
[11:28] <Dr0ne> Will I get a permanent ban if I hack the commands and boot the bot?
[11:31] <Unit193> Dr0ne: This isn't a playground or testing channel, it's the Ubuntu support channel.  If you don't have a Ubuntu support question, then it doesn't belong here.
[12:16] <Guest71> hi all, can someone help me out with a boot issue?
[12:16] <ravage> left or right boot?
[12:17] <Guest71> this time the left one
[12:17] <Guest71> kek
[12:20] <Guest71> getting a recovering journal error, any help would be appreciated
[12:21] <ravage> with some more details about your problem someone may be able to help you
[12:22] <ravage> like the actual error message. version of ubuntu. what did you do before that error happened?
[12:24] <Guest71> after an authentication failure error, the system couldn't exit the screen saver mode, after rebooting it gives the journal error and loads tty. the ubuntu version is 18.04.6 lts
[12:27] <Guest71> so basically the desktop environment doesn't load, and the wifi is down. usb modem is unable to connect to the internet, too. live booting via usb stick and disk diagnose says the file system is undamaged.
[12:31] <Guest71> before the authentication error, a lamp package by bitnami and another lamp package via tasksel were installed, then both removed, and the bitnami package installed again. it worked until screen saver mode. there might be too less of disk space too, currently around 7 gb disk space is free, which makes around 5% of the whole partition.
[12:35] <Guest71> because startx couldn't load via terminal, after inspection the .Xauth file was found to be on the wrong - root - user. the .Xauth file belongs to the right user now, and other lock file folder were inspected and any lock files removed.
[12:49] <Guest71> any hints would be appreciated - any way to repair the gui without an internet connection or to look for and delete log files that may be oversized if this is suspected, or how to initiate an offline update via tty etc
[12:53] <alkisg> Guest71: boot via live cd, chroot and run apt update from there
[12:58] <Niko1988> Hello everyone. I have some trouble setting up a ubuntu machine... I have a self signed certificate file that i copied into /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ks.crt . After that i ran update-ca-certificates and in the folder /etc/ssl/certs is my crt file linkt to the location in usr/local... i now have a 2nd certificate (~/test.crt) that was signed
[12:58] <Niko1988> by the trusted crt file i "installed". If i run the command "openssl verify -verbose ~/test.crt" i get the error unable to get local issuer certificate. But if I run the command "openssl verify -verbose -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt ~/test.crt" everything works like a charm... Is this a bug?!? Lookes to me like openssl is not using the
[12:58] <Niko1988> default folder /etc/ssl/certs ... Can someone give me a hint? Thank you very much!
[12:59] <leftyfb> Niko1988: why not use letsencrypt to handle all of this for you?
[13:02] <Niko1988> leftyfb: my problem is that the machine is running in a network that has a firewall with ssl inspection... so every ssl url that I open will give me an error (because of the self singed certificate of the firewall)... So i need to install and trust the certificate of the companys firewall...
[13:03] <alkisg> Niko1988: system certificates are one thing, openssl another, firefox another, google-chrome another. Which one are you really interested in?
[13:04] <alkisg> E.g. if you try with wget as you are now , it should work, as it's using the system certificates
[13:04] <Niko1988> alkisg: one moment, I'm going to try this
[13:09] <Niko1988> alkisg: nope, not working... i tried wget https://github.com/... and it gave me the error: ERROR: canno verify github.com's vertificate, issued by 'CN...O=MY-COMPANY...' Self-signed certificate encountered.
[13:10] <alkisg> Niko1988: is your .crt/.pem in the correct format? Does `update-ca-certificates` complain?
[13:10] <alkisg> But note that if the end result is a browser, then it's a completely different topic, it does elsewhere
[13:10] <alkisg> Firefox uses policy files and google-chrome uses .pki
[13:11] <alkisg> *s/does/goes/
[13:13] <Niko1988> alkisg: my crt file should be in the correct format... it starts with -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- ... I'm using ubuntu server so i don't use a browser...
[13:13] <alkisg> And update-ca-certificates mentions no errors when you remove and re-add that file?
[13:16] <Niko1988> alkisg: the very first time i run update-ca-certificates it was telling me 1 added and no error... when i run it now, it's telling me 0 added... What i think is interesting is, that when i delete the /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ks.crt file and run the update again, it's not telling me 1 removed, but the link to the file in /etc/ssl/certs/ is
[13:16] <Niko1988> gone and in /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt it is also removed.
[13:16] <alkisg> Delete the symlink instead of the file
[13:16] <alkisg> I don't think it complains about stale symlinks
[13:17] <Niko1988> alkisg: ok one moment I will try it
[13:19] <Niko1988> alkisg: sudo update-ca-certificates
[13:19] <Niko1988> Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs...
[13:19] <Niko1988> rehash: warning: skipping ca-certificates.crt,it does not contain exactly one certificate or CRL
[13:19] <Niko1988> 1 added, 0 removed; done.
[13:19] <Niko1988> Running hooks in /etc/ca-certificates/update.d...
[13:20] <alkisg> See, it didn't like it...
[13:21] <Niko1988> alkisg: I did now:
[13:21] <alkisg> No idea about why or about the correct solution though
[13:21] <alkisg> I had a similar issue today, I renamed the .crt to .pem, then I symlinked it manually, and weirdly that worked
[13:21] <jsbach> Hi, i have a Qt packages based question. Which package brings the QApplication header? any ideas?
[13:22] <Guest71> alkisg: youve recommended to chroot after booting via live usb - the system has a multi boot grub - is there anything i should pay close attention to by mounting? how can i ensure that grub doesn't get damaged?
[13:22] <Niko1988> alkisg: I did now the following:
[13:22] <Niko1988> sudo rm /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
[13:22] <Niko1988> sudo rm /etc/ssl/certs/ks.pem
[13:22] <Niko1988> sudo update-ca-certificates
[13:22] <Niko1988> alkisg: with the following result:
[13:22] <Niko1988> Updating certificates in /etc/ssl/certs...
[13:22] <Niko1988> 1 added, 0 removed; done.
[13:22] <Niko1988> Running hooks in /etc/ca-certificates/update.d...
[13:22] <Niko1988> done.
[13:23] <alkisg> !paste
[13:23] <terminalpusher> if I use `xset r rate [delay [rate]`, how do I reset that to the default values? my cursor is too fast
[13:23] <alkisg> Guest71: make sure you boot into the same mode as the installation; if it's uefi, boot in uefi mode, if it's bios/mbr, then bios mode
[13:24] <Niko1988> alkisg: funny... I did not changed anything on the crt file, and everything is like before, but now it's working...
[13:25] <alkisg> Magic :D
[13:25] <Niko1988> alkisg: whyever the system had a hickup there... but I solved it with the manual deleting of the symlink and the generated ca-certificates.crt file...
[13:26] <Niko1988> alkisg: Thank you very very much for your help and time :)
[13:26] <alkisg> Thank you too, I'll try it as well if it happens again :)
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:59] <ali_> hi
[14:10] <etore> Hey guys
[14:10] <etore> I need help.
[14:12] <murmel> so ask ;)
[14:12] <etore> Ok so i installed surf
[14:12] <etore> and i keep getting GLX errors.
[14:12] <etore> its just a white screen
[14:12] <etore> Badvalue error
[14:13] <etore> its propietary nvidia 390 drivers for my gt630
[14:13] <etore> gf108
[14:23] <bluesceada> sarnold, remember the snap issues, I think (but can't prove!), that it has to do with me running the 6.0 oem kernel and still existing squashfs bugs - in the end I guess any user of the 6.0 OEM kernel would be affected
[14:24] <etore> Repeating question again, installed surf and its got a whtie screen with a GLX BadValue error, on a nvidia 390 driver with GT630 GF108 variant.
[14:24] <etore> Heres the log
[14:24] <etore> https://paste.debian.net/1263543/
[14:24] <etore> ubuntu 22.04.1
[14:26] <tarel2> I get something that talks about some kind of time running out on a snap? what is that all about? I'm on the pi 400 so maybe its for that but is it maybe not
[14:27] <murmel> tarel2: we definitely need more info
[14:27] <tarel2> I get stuff about updating too but I never see it again
[14:28] <murmel> tarel2: you mean, like you have x days before firefox gets updated (or something like that?)
[14:28] <tarel2> what asks me never shows up for long and the last time my Ubuntu froze.  so I had to restart
[14:29] <bluesceada> sarnold, seems only truly fixed in kernels 6.1+ ( https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/d2580643-f58e-c1b0-7671-c5bbb38c05d0@alu.unizg.hr/ )
[14:31] <etore> Since when did linux kernel 6.1 come oujt?
[14:31] <bluesceada> etore, it's still rc
[14:31] <murmel> etore: next sunday
[14:32] <bluesceada> I didn't follow more of lkml but I would guess they backported a patch ...
[14:32] <etore> Wish I had 6.0 kernel, but I have a old nvidia card and i need latest opengl from propietary drivers...
[14:32] <etore> nouveau doesnt work
[14:32] <bluesceada> I regret having updated to 6.0 because of the snap problems I had
[14:33] <murmel> bluesceada: I mean, can't you just revert back to the older kernel oO?
[14:33] <bluesceada> But otherwise I now seem to have battery drain on sleep ....
[14:33] <bluesceada> murmel, I am now back to 5.15 ...
[14:33] <bluesceada> the 5.19 in jammy-proposed doesn't see my wifi O.o
[14:34] <bluesceada> I am back to the joys of running too recent hardware with Linux, I guess :D
[14:35] <murmel> bluesceada: there is no 5.19 for jammy ;)
[14:35] <bluesceada> murmel, it doesn't find my  wifi
[14:35] <etore> I'm running too old hardware with linux, when they discontinued IDE drives, I cried
[14:36] <murmel> etore: pretty sure they didn't discontinue ide drives, just the driver was switched
[14:36] <bluesceada> you mean the one in jammy-proposed, right? I would guess there is not enough difference in any other
[14:36] <murmel> bluesceada: there is no 5.19 in jammy-proposed, it's 5.15 ;)
[14:37] <bluesceada> *** 5.19.0-24.25~22.04.1 400
[14:37] <bluesceada>         400 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-proposed/main amd64 Packages
[14:37] <bluesceada>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:37] <etore> murmel can you help me with the problem im having with surf browser from suckless
[14:37] <bluesceada> What is "surf" ?
[14:37] <murmel> etore: no sorry, no idea
[14:37] <murmel> bluesceada: oO which package?
[14:38] <murmel> bluesceada: ohhh, the -edge kernel
[14:38] <murmel> nice finally
[14:38] <etore> surf is a lightweight webbrowser where u have to type in the address into your terminal and it pops up without any address bars stuff like that
[14:38] <etore> just the webpage
[14:38] <etore> in ui and not terminal
[14:38] <murmel> bluesceada: I was waiting for 5.19 for my WWAN module :)
[15:06] <confuzled> hello
[15:22] <Guest99> hi, may somebody help me with crontab editing?
[15:22] <murmel> Guest99: if it would be more specific?
[15:23] <Guest99> i want to reboot my rpi several times a day, i decided to use "sudo crontab -e" and add extra line in there
[15:24] <murmel> Guest99: yes...
[15:24] <Guest99> "25 6,9 * * 1-6 sudo /sbin/shutdown -r" such line, I have saved changes, exit nano
[15:24] <Guest99> when i typed "sudo crontab -l" the changes are there
[15:24] <Guest99> but when i reboot and type that command again it turns out nothing changed at all
[15:27] <Guest99> Just for your information, I have already two jobs there, but even changing their timing doesn't work
[15:27] <Guest99> Any ideas what am I doing wrong?
[15:27] <murmel> oO ro filesystem/bad sd card?
[15:29] <Guest99> sd card is in fact not in excellent condition, but for the moment i cannot phisically change it. It has to last for another 5 days. Is there any way to make it reboot at specific time?
[15:30] <Guest99> other than doing it manually through ssh
[15:30] <murmel> depends on what you mean by no in excellent condition? can you still write stuff onto sd?
[15:30] <Guest99> yes, it boots, it reads and writes other files
[15:31] <Guest99> i am using it for live cam streaming and sometimes service stops because it cannot read sth
[15:32] <Guest99> so i presume it's going to die one day
[15:32] <murmel> Guest99: that definitely doesn't sound good.
[15:33] <Guest99> I am going to replace it, but not now
[15:33] <Guest99> so is there any way to edit cron?
[15:34] <bluesceada> murmel, funny, since my Wifi stops being detected entirely on 5.19
[15:36] <murmel> Guest99: I mean as long as the write doesn't stick, there isn't that much I/you can do
[15:36] <murmel> bluesceada: about which wifi card are we talking about?
[15:36] <Guest99> isn't it strange that it saves the tmp cron
[15:37] <bluesceada> 02:00.0 Network controller: MEDIATEK Corp. MT7921 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter
[15:37] <bluesceada> Thinkpad E14 Gen4
[15:37] <Guest99> shows it, but it doesn't show changes after reboot?
[15:37] <bluesceada> i am afk again for a while..
[15:38] <jhutchins> Guest99: It sounds like your OS is running in memory.  Your changes get wiped out when the system cycles.
[15:38] <jhutchins> Guest99: There should be an image that is being loaded into RAM, you need to make the changes to that image.
[15:39] <murmel> Guest99: I mean makes sense if the data can't be written to sd card
[15:39] <murmel> so the change "survives" in ram
[15:39] <jhutchins> Guest99: Unfortunately there aren't many people here who are familiar with that process, you'd probably get better help from a Pi support channel.
[15:39] <murmel> jhutchins: does ubuntu have a ram only system image?
[15:40] <Guest99> I see, it is much clearer now.
[15:41] <jhutchins> This is a lot like making changes to a "live" or bootable ISO image.  You have to expand the image, make the changes, re-"compile" it, then reload the image to the card.
[15:41] <jhutchins> murmel: I know they're out there, I don't know what might be Cannonical supported.
[15:42] <murmel> oO wow that's news to me. only ever saw the img on their website, nothing else, and those definitely are not "live" disks
[15:43] <Guest99> It is easy to check thought if it can write other files
[15:48] <Guest99> You were right. Txt files that i have created aren't there after reboot
[15:49] <Guest99> Thank you for your assistance. You are great :).
[16:01] <kkkssf> Hi! What does "needs triage" means on the security tracker?
[16:02] <Jeremy31> They haven't determined how important it is
[16:07] <jhutchins> kkkssf: Triage is the process where the volunteers check the report and try to find where the reason for the problem lies.  They can then share it with the team responsible for that part of the package.  They often are able to provide additional information, like what section of code the bug is from.
[16:08] <jhutchins> kkkssf: The better and clearer the bugreport is, the easier it is to triage and assign.
[16:08] <jhutchins> kkkssf: "This doesn't work" is hard.  "There is an error in this sub-process that reacts like this" is a lot easier.
[16:12] <bingoJACKPOT> Take your on-topic off-topic
[16:14] <kkkssf> Is it possible to determine why the status is stuck on "needs triage" for 10 days on this one? https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2022-41325
[16:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu- An integer overflow in the VNC module in VideoLAN VLC Media Player through 3.0.17.4 allows attackers, by tricking a user into opening a crafted playlist or connecting to a rogue VNC server, to crash VLC or execute code under some conditions. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-41325>
[16:27] <kkkssf> is there some sort of queue list for cves so they get fixed in a special order?
[16:29] <jhutchins> kkkssf: Nothing that organized.
[16:29] <jhutchins> kkkssf: It's more a matter of who understands a problem enough to take it on.
[16:30] <jhutchins> kkkssf: CVEs tend to get address in the order submitted, and according to severity.  Cannonical does some work to address serious problems, and there's a lot of "up-stream" effort with the originating projects.
[18:33] <bodom> Hi there! I have an annoying issue: when i switch to a virtual terminal by ctrl+alt+f5, it doesn't stay there and the screen goes blank instead
[18:45] <SwedeMike>  /win 4
[18:45] <SwedeMike> oos
[18:45] <SwedeMike> oops
[19:26] <Vuurdraak> hello, it seems in an recent update of 22.04 LTS Wayland was installed ? and my desktop links to an xrandr script have stop working, screens instead of DP-0 are now called XWAYLAND0, when just saying: xrandr --output WAYLAND1 --off, i get errors, a website tells me to usae wlr-randr instead, and when I use that i get "compositor doesn't support wlr-output-management-unstable-v1", is there a way to turn screens on and off from the CLI ? or it's no
[19:26] <Vuurdraak> longer possible ?
[19:28] <Vuurdraak> *XWAYLAND1 --off
[19:29] <jhutchins> bodom: What about the other VTs?
[19:31] <Vuurdraak> arandr seems to also do nothing
[19:32] <bodom> jhutchins: same issue
[19:37] <Vuurdraak> oke acording to a reddit post it's only posible with 3th party stuff you need to build, https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/zaunxf/turn_off_the_primary_screen_with_wayland/
[19:39] <Vuurdraak> sad that turning on/off a screen doesnt work anymore out of the box , enough for today booting back to 20.4 :')
[20:17] <jhutchins> What part of "Wayland is in development and many features are not yet working?" didn't make the rounds here?
[20:31] <mybalzitch> I gotta turn off wayland on my desktop. it's frustrating
[21:30] <jhutchins> The "print message" in RoundCube formats the messages very nicely, and I could just "print" them to PDF.
[21:54] <forgotmynick> how do you allow an app with apparmor
[22:01] <skydoge> Hi, why does the sshd_config file is different if I open it with root versus a normal user?
[22:03] <skydoge> im on 18.04
[22:46] <tomreyn> skydoge: "open", how?
[22:47] <tomreyn> either way, i can't think of any situation where that would happen
[22:50] <tomreyn> forgotmynick: aa-complain or aa-disable.
[23:02] <backthen> I use the same usb install disk to install a dozen Ubuntu by now. On this one disk, I get the 'can't log in even with correct password' problem. Why would this be
[23:04] <leftyfb> wrong password? caps lock? malfunctioning keyboard
[23:04] <oerheks> bad disk?
[23:06] <backthen> leftyfb: another disk installed the same way onto the same machine doesn't have the problem
[23:07] <leftyfb> backthen: ok, then bad password. reinstall or boot to "recovery" and reset the password
[23:08] <backthen> oerheks: hmm, it may have bad sectors. But I can get to the log in screen. So at least the OS runs. Just that after typing in correct pw, it just returns me to the log in screen.
[23:08] <leftyfb> reinstall
[23:09] <jhutchins> Secureboot?
[23:12] <backthen> no nothing special. I was able to login initially the first boot after install. Then the OS did some updates and restarted. Thereafter I got the can't login problem
[23:12] <leftyfb> could verywell be secureboot. Disable it if you can
[23:19] <vsv> quit
[23:21] <jay321> how can i get this initrd onto my sdhc card?
[23:21] <jay321> iirc there was a way to do it from windows 11
[23:21] <arraybolt3> jay321: What are you trying to do, and why?
[23:21] <arraybolt3> (Putting just an initramfs on an SD card seems like a very odd thing to do.)
[23:22] <jay321> my nexys a7 risc4 needs and sd disc
[23:22] <arraybolt3> Oh, so you're trying to flash an SD card with an Ubuntu image so you can boot your other system?
[23:22] <jay321> its debian, but yeah
[23:23] <arraybolt3> If so, the tool I usually use for stuff like that is balenaEtcher.
[23:23] <jay321> on windows? is it an msi?
[23:23] <arraybolt3> https://www.balena.io/etcher/
[23:23] <arraybolt3> It is a Windows tool.
[23:23] <jay321> ok thanks
[23:23] <arraybolt3> There's a .exe installer and a portable .exe version.
[23:24] <arraybolt3> (As a side note, this channel usually doesn't support Debian or Windows, but since this is a general enough question that could apply to Ubuntu also, I figured it was OK this time.)
[23:25] <jay321> yes, ive been running ubuntu 18 and vivado fpga crap, for this continuing thread
[23:26] <jay321> its 18.04, and under wsl
[23:26] <arraybolt3> (Also Etcher supports more than just Windows, so if you end up liking it and want to use it elsewhere it will work on Linux too, though I'm not sure if it will support your particular board.)
[23:31] <jay321> i was spinning my wheels for hours trying to mount it in ubuntu
[23:32] <jay321> i wanted to see the file system mount points from df, but it wasnt
[23:32] <jay321> fuse mounted the thing, though
[23:33] <jay321> ive been using wsl2 all this time and ubuntu
[23:37] <jay321> its fighting me man
[23:40] <arraybolt3> What are you trying to mount?
[23:41] <jay321> arraybolt3: do you prefer pastebin.com or other?
[23:42] <jay321> https://pastebin.com/bi6FVGPz
[23:50] <skydoge> tomreyn, used nano idk what happened reinstalled and works fine
[23:50] <skydoge> thanks anyway