[03:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> And for those of you that have been following, I've been modernizing an old logo: 
[03:50]  * Eickmeyer[m] uploaded an image: (19KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/epGuefHKkftfybfCTFbvJBuT/image.png >
[03:55] <arraybolt3[m]> Eickmeyer: That looks amazing, my only nitpick is that the lines in the Circle of Friends are supposed to be arms. I know that it's supposed to be the guy in the upper-right hand corner raising his hand, but it sorta looks like the guy at the left doing something weird with his elbow. :P
[03:56] <Eickmeyer[m]> arraybolt3: Right, it's really difficult to keep the uniformity there with the new Ubuntu logo.
[03:57] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah. Still, that looks amazing, and I think the thing I pointed out will probably almost never be noticed and even less likely to be cared about.
[03:57]  * arraybolt3[m] wants to boot Edubuntu in a VM now :D
[04:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> arraybolt3: HAHAHA I don't even have a current .iso image!!!
[04:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> The metas need work.
[04:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, this should be better: 
[04:03]  * Eickmeyer[m] uploaded an image: (13KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/dmBlXBoBEJtZaLYXfMgjBfdM/image.png >
[04:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> I think that's what we're going with. AmyPenguin (my wife) has put her stamp of approval on it.
[04:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> (she's the flavor lead on this one)
[04:10] <arraybolt3[m]> 👍️
[04:10] <arraybolt3[m]> I like it too.
[05:32] <lp2skyline> Hi, I wanna get involved.. somehow.
[05:41] <Bashing-om> lp2skyline: Have a read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu as a start :D
[05:42] <lp2skyline> Ubuntu.. Women..?
[05:44] <lp2skyline> It is very barren in the irc channel.. I think that's the right word.
[06:57] <arraybolt3> lp2skyline: If you mean the tech support channel, #ubuntu, that place is very much not barren. It's just more active some times than others.
[06:57] <lp2skyline> No, I mean #ubuntu-women
[06:58] <arraybolt3> Oh. A lot of the community-related channels have very sparse activity, so that's not too surprising (this channel has been particularly active today and can go days without a message).
[06:59] <lp2skyline> Yeah, but there's not a lot of people in there.. I wanna help out around Ubuntu but I'm really bad with programming so
[07:00] <arraybolt3> If all we had was programmers, we'd have a problem :) If you like working with community-related things, you might be interested in the Community Documentation Initiative.
[07:00] <guiverc> lp2skyline, don't forget timezone issues with IRC...  If you have a question, it may take many hours before others can respond (either due to timezone, work committments etc). IRC is slow when starting up & you don't know when others are available to respond.
[07:01] <arraybolt3> True. IRC is kind of like email - people might respond like crazy... or they might take a few hours. It's better than email for when things are happening in real time, but it does take some time to get used to the long periods of silence.
[07:01] <lp2skyline> I would like to work on community items.
[07:01] <lp2skyline> I've been on IRC for years, I understand how it works :P
[07:01] <lp2skyline> I'm just used to bigger channels, honestly.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> pick a topic on the contribute link shared to you earlier lp2skyline 
[07:02] <lp2skyline> I did, Ubuntu Women :P
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> there's a lot more you can do then programming
[07:04] <arraybolt3> That makes sense. A lot of the channels with the best activity are also the most seemingly barren, though. When they do start getting activity, they have really good activity. If you're able to keep your client open here, I bet Fallen (one of our main community people) will notice and respond. (Pinging him on purpose so that he notices.)
[07:04] <lp2skyline> lol
[07:06] <guiverc> I just peeked into the room (-women), yeah it's small, and some I know would respond if/when they can aren't available currently
[07:06] <lp2skyline> Ah, okay. Well, I'll just wait then. It is 2am where I am
[07:06] <lp2skyline> No I'm not going to sleep... yet :P
[07:07] <guiverc> Your other alterantive is a mailing-list; ie. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Women  maybe worth a try (sorry I'm a guy so am guessing on what I'd try were I the 'fairer' sex)
[07:07] <arraybolt3> Sheesh, that "how to contribute to Ubuntu" page is sorely out of date, looks like. That's one of the things that we're trying to fix.
[07:09] <lp2skyline> I do happen to like typing things
[07:22] <guiverc> lp2skyline, just an fyi, but bashing-om (who replied first) & myself are involved with Ubuntu-News (not programming!), you could always join us with the weekly newsletter & learn more about what is available in the wider Ubuntu community, until you decide where else you want to go (I'm with Lubuntu now for example..)  Placed as an idea to learn more about what's available maybe
[07:23] <lp2skyline> I'm good at typing things sometimes. This might be a good idea :D
[07:24] <guiverc> We're in #ubuntu-news;  Bashing-om is US based thus offline now; I'm in AU so early evening here
[07:25] <lp2skyline> As I said it's like 2:25am here haha
[07:25] <guiverc> lp2skyline, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter gives a clue as to what the Newsletter is; Ubuntu News does more than just that newsletter, but it's a HUGE portion of what we do.  If you have questions, I'm available in #ubuntu-news
[07:26] <lp2skyline> So it's just like.. every week, a lot of Ubuntu-related stuff is posted?
[07:27] <guiverc> yep; that is a weekly newsletter. (there maybe rare weeks where it's not published)
[07:27] <lp2skyline> Interesting..
[07:28] <lp2skyline> I also wanna help out with more inclusivity stuff, as well.
[07:28] <guiverc> some issues are small (our latest is an example), post-release time of course usually larger... If you're interested, please query me on #ubuntu-news (it's not related to this channel really)
[07:28] <guiverc> I started my Ubuntu contributions in Ubuntu News, but that's not where I spend most of my Ubuntu contribution time, and hasn't been for some time.
 "I also wanna help out with..." <- Hello and welcome! let me check and get back to you. Meanwhile, feel free to ask questions here. We are very happy you want to contribute.
[15:44] <aaronprisk[m]> Welcome lp2skyline! It's great to have you here. I'm currently working on an initiative to modernize our community facing documentation, specifically those that pertain to newcomer contributions and project governance. If that sounds like something you'd be interested in helping out with, please let me know.
[16:49] <arraybolt3[m]> aaronprisk: wrt the email you sent earlier, which room are we intending to meet in? If it's not a room I'm in already, I should probably join it before we get there.
[16:53] <aaronprisk[m]> arraybolt3[m]: Sending a message your way
 "image.png" <- The logo looks great! I'm glad you and AmyPenguin decided to revitalize the original.
[18:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> aaronprisk[m]: Thanks! Working on the seed a little later today and hope to get the metas building.
[18:24] <alkisg> Eickmeyer: you're reviving edubuntu?
[18:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> alkisg: That's right!
[18:25] <alkisg> Which DE are you going to use, GNOME?
[18:25] <alkisg> Great! I noticed you removed me from the devs today and I was wondering if something's happening!
[18:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> alkisg: Yes. Deciding to keep as close to Ubuntu Desktop as possible to piggyback on the high level of development there.
[18:27] <alkisg> OK. Unfortunately schools here still have old hardware so we can't use gnome (due to lack of graphics acceleration of the clients), but the software collections could be a nice thing! Wishing your strength and success!
[18:28] <alkisg> (Personally I think I'd select KDE for edubuntu because much edu software is KDE software, and it will need all the libraries to be installed anyway...)
[18:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> We're also going to do something similar to what we already to with Ubuntu Studio and fork Ubuntu Studio Installer so that the metas can be easily installed on any flavor, so any DE can be picked and downloaded based on the flavor, and then installed easily.
[18:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, in your case, install Kubuntu then install Edubuntu Installer to get what you need.
[18:30] <alkisg> Right, sounds good, thanks!
[18:30] <aaronprisk[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: That's a great idea.
[18:35] <aaronprisk[m]> I've been working on a related side project. A flutter based app for installing 'packs' of education snaps based on the intended education level: Primary, middle and higher ed etc. I'd be happy to share it once it's stable. 
[18:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> aaronprisk[m]: Not a bad idea! I'm wondering if there's some synergy there.
[18:37] <aaronprisk[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: That would be great! I was also considering working in some optional 'kiosk' mode / branding functions. Basically all the things I had to do manually when I was a K12 sysadmin.
[18:39] <arraybolt3[m]> As someone who was once a child and had great fun causing utter destruction to the computer I used, may I suggest a snapshotting feature be included by default to allow 30-second system demangles?
[18:39] <arraybolt3[m]> (That Win95 desktop never did recover XD)
[18:40] <Eickmeyer[m]> aaronprisk[m]: One of the early goals of Edubuntu was high use of LTSP, but that ended up going by the wayside as the project started to diminish. As of now, that's a secondary, or "eventual" goal. However, making some sort of "kiosk" mode would be really nice.
[18:44] <aaronprisk[m]> Eickmeyer[m]: We ended up taking advantage of XFCE's built in Kiosk features as GNOME was lacking at that time. I believe some of those issues have been resolved with some recent GNOME releases thankfully.
[18:44] <aaronprisk[m]> Much like arraybolt3 said, kids are excellent QA testers.
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> > <@linuxap:matrix.org> We ended up taking advantage of XFCE's built in Kiosk features as GNOME was lacking at that time. I believe some of those issues have been resolved with some recent GNOME releases thankfully.
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> > Much like arraybolt3 said, kids are excellent QA testers.
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> We have a 10 y/o. Believe me, I know. 😂
[18:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> He was at Summit with us, and was actually the youngest registered attendee.
[18:48] <aaronprisk[m]> That is awesome! I imagine he had a great time.
[18:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh, he had an absolute blast.