[00:33] nothing in the APT logs? [00:36] i've never learned anything useful from dpkg logs, so I never think to look there [00:36] and I didn't remember that apt actually logs the terminal output until yesterday, in the shower .. I thought "I should ask the apt team to always log the terminal output, that'd be useful!" and then it hit me, that feature already exists. heh. [00:37] so when I had a guy on irc, I hadn't thought to ask for those logs. when I remembered, nobody on irc. :( [01:05] at the very least the APT logs would show what else was upgraded at the same time [01:05] most likely one of those packages is involved... [01:07] yeah [01:07] having the term log of the event would answer so many questions :( [01:07] also, a list packages that were installed before & after might be useful [01:08] (also, it might be a _missing_ package, but that would also be derivable from all that) === klebers_ is now known as klebers === klebers_ is now known as klebers