[00:33] <JanC> nothing in the APT logs?
[00:36] <sarnold> i've never learned anything useful from dpkg logs, so I never think to look there
[00:36] <sarnold> and I didn't remember that apt actually logs the terminal output until yesterday, in the shower .. I thought "I should ask the apt team to always log the terminal output, that'd be useful!" and then it hit me, that feature already exists. heh.
[00:37] <sarnold> so when I had a guy on irc, I hadn't thought to ask for those logs. when I remembered, nobody on irc. :(
[01:05] <JanC> at the very least the APT logs would show what else was upgraded at the same time
[01:05] <JanC> most likely one of those packages is involved...
[01:07] <sarnold> yeah
[01:07] <sarnold> having the term log of the event would answer so many questions :(
[01:07] <JanC> also, a list packages that were installed before & after might be useful
[01:08] <JanC> (also, it might be a _missing_ package, but that would also be derivable from all that)