| Mooncairn | Having some issues w/ GNOME and Evolution. | 17:45 |
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| Mooncairn | My entire desktop soft froze. Mouse worked, raising/lowering windows and accessing top bar icons worked, buy keyboard and actual app interaction didn't. | 17:45 |
| Mooncairn | This is at least the second time now. | 17:45 |
| Mooncairn | And it was all trigged by me bringing up (my running Evolution), again. | 17:46 |
| Mooncairn | Lasted for about a minute or two. I kept pulling and replugging my mouse and keyboard cables to no positive effect. | 17:47 |
| Mooncairn | Once again I'm left to wonder if this a software or a hardware issues. | 17:47 |
| Mooncairn | The fact that Evolution keeps triggering it points at a software problem. | 17:48 |
| Mooncairn | Although the is (at least) the second time it's happened desktop-wide, Evolution routinely locks up for 30 seconds after I bring it up. | 17:49 |
| Mooncairn | That and other issues with Evolution is pushing me toward abandoning it and switching to Thunderbird. | 17:49 |
| cmaloney | I only use Evolution because Thunderbird spammed the crap out of my log files | 19:14 |
| cmaloney | otherwise it's better for my overall workflow | 19:14 |
| cmaloney | but Evolution also seems to work better over here than what you're experiencing | 19:14 |
| cmaloney | It could be a password window that isn't getting displayed that's causing it | 19:15 |
| cmaloney | I've had some wonkiness with password key unlocks over here. | 19:15 |
| Mooncairn | I've been having other issues. E-mails that are there one second, gone the next, then back after a minute. | 19:18 |
| Mooncairn | Also lots of errors connecting to my mail source. At its best, I have to retry fetching mail. At its worst, I have to quit Evolution and restart it. | 19:19 |
| Mooncairn | Sometime the message header will come up but the body can't be fetched. Things along those lines. | 19:19 |
| Mooncairn | How exactly did it spam your log files? Is it just that verbose in it's logging? | 19:21 |
| * Mooncairn smacks forehead. | 19:21 | |
| Mooncairn | Pardon the grammar errors. My brain's already on holiday. | 19:21 |
| cmaloney | No worries | 19:21 |
| cmaloney | Thunderbird was just logging a boat-load of errors every time I brought it up, which got surfaced in log-check. | 19:22 |
| Mooncairn | Speaking of log checking, Ubuntu doesn't seem to mail warning messages to root like Debian does by default, nor is there a .xsession-errors for X problems. | 19:50 |
| Mooncairn | Ugh. It doesn't look like GNOME's calendar program supports tasks unless I've missed something. | 19:59 |
| Mooncairn | *sigh* I'm back in Calendar Hell which I'd thought I had left behind with KDE. | 20:31 |
| Mooncairn | At least I'm not losing calendars or having events getting eaten by the PIM system, so there's that. :S | 20:34 |
| Mooncairn | Anyway, I found some breadcrumbs to the whole freezing thing. I'm seeing a lot of GNOME keymap reassaignment errors in syslog around the time of the freeze, and there's been reports by others with the same thing. | 20:36 |
| Mooncairn | Best guess right now is that GNOME is flooding the kernel's logging system with errors faster than the kernel can write them out, and the freezing is a result of the kernel pausing the offending process. | 20:37 |
| Mooncairn | I'm not sure if I buy that, but it does fit the evidence pattern so far... | 20:37 |
| cmaloney | ah, that makes sense | 21:45 |
| Mooncairn | Oh lovely, Clementine is spitting out debug messages into the syslog every 10 seconds. | 22:23 |
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