[17:45] Having some issues w/ GNOME and Evolution. [17:45] My entire desktop soft froze. Mouse worked, raising/lowering windows and accessing top bar icons worked, buy keyboard and actual app interaction didn't. [17:45] This is at least the second time now. [17:46] And it was all trigged by me bringing up (my running Evolution), again. [17:47] Lasted for about a minute or two. I kept pulling and replugging my mouse and keyboard cables to no positive effect. [17:47] Once again I'm left to wonder if this a software or a hardware issues. [17:48] The fact that Evolution keeps triggering it points at a software problem. [17:49] Although the is (at least) the second time it's happened desktop-wide, Evolution routinely locks up for 30 seconds after I bring it up. [17:49] That and other issues with Evolution is pushing me toward abandoning it and switching to Thunderbird. [19:14] I only use Evolution because Thunderbird spammed the crap out of my log files [19:14] otherwise it's better for my overall workflow [19:14] but Evolution also seems to work better over here than what you're experiencing [19:15] It could be a password window that isn't getting displayed that's causing it [19:15] I've had some wonkiness with password key unlocks over here. [19:18] I've been having other issues. E-mails that are there one second, gone the next, then back after a minute. [19:19] Also lots of errors connecting to my mail source. At its best, I have to retry fetching mail. At its worst, I have to quit Evolution and restart it. [19:19] Sometime the message header will come up but the body can't be fetched. Things along those lines. [19:21] How exactly did it spam your log files? Is it just that verbose in it's logging? [19:21] * Mooncairn smacks forehead. [19:21] Pardon the grammar errors. My brain's already on holiday. [19:21] No worries [19:22] Thunderbird was just logging a boat-load of errors every time I brought it up, which got surfaced in log-check. [19:50] Speaking of log checking, Ubuntu doesn't seem to mail warning messages to root like Debian does by default, nor is there a .xsession-errors for X problems. [19:59] Ugh. It doesn't look like GNOME's calendar program supports tasks unless I've missed something. [20:31] *sigh* I'm back in Calendar Hell which I'd thought I had left behind with KDE. [20:34] At least I'm not losing calendars or having events getting eaten by the PIM system, so there's that. :S [20:36] Anyway, I found some breadcrumbs to the whole freezing thing. I'm seeing a lot of GNOME keymap reassaignment errors in syslog around the time of the freeze, and there's been reports by others with the same thing. [20:37] Best guess right now is that GNOME is flooding the kernel's logging system with errors faster than the kernel can write them out, and the freezing is a result of the kernel pausing the offending process. [20:37] I'm not sure if I buy that, but it does fit the evidence pattern so far... [21:45] ah, that makes sense [22:23] Oh lovely, Clementine is spitting out debug messages into the syslog every 10 seconds.