[17:45] <Mooncairn> Having some issues w/ GNOME and Evolution.
[17:45] <Mooncairn> My entire desktop soft froze. Mouse worked, raising/lowering windows and accessing top bar icons worked, buy keyboard and actual app interaction didn't.
[17:45] <Mooncairn> This is at least the second time now.
[17:46] <Mooncairn> And it was all trigged by me bringing up (my running Evolution), again.
[17:47] <Mooncairn> Lasted for about a minute or two. I kept pulling and replugging my mouse and keyboard cables to no positive effect.
[17:47] <Mooncairn> Once again I'm left to wonder if this a software or a hardware issues.
[17:48] <Mooncairn> The fact that Evolution keeps triggering it points at a software problem.
[17:49] <Mooncairn> Although the is (at least) the second time it's happened desktop-wide, Evolution routinely locks up for 30 seconds after I bring it up.
[17:49] <Mooncairn> That and other issues with Evolution is pushing me toward abandoning it and switching to Thunderbird.
[19:14] <cmaloney> I only use Evolution because Thunderbird spammed the crap out of my log files
[19:14] <cmaloney> otherwise it's better for my overall workflow
[19:14] <cmaloney> but Evolution also seems to work better over here than what you're experiencing
[19:15] <cmaloney> It could be a password window that isn't getting displayed that's causing it
[19:15] <cmaloney> I've had some wonkiness with password key unlocks over here.
[19:18] <Mooncairn> I've been having other issues. E-mails that are there one second, gone the next, then back after a minute.
[19:19] <Mooncairn> Also lots of errors connecting to my mail source. At its best, I have to retry fetching mail. At its worst, I have to quit Evolution and restart it.
[19:19] <Mooncairn> Sometime the message header will come up but the body can't be fetched. Things along those lines.
[19:21] <Mooncairn> How exactly did it spam your log files? Is it just that verbose in it's logging?
[19:21]  * Mooncairn smacks forehead.
[19:21] <Mooncairn> Pardon the grammar errors. My brain's already on holiday.
[19:21] <cmaloney> No worries
[19:22] <cmaloney> Thunderbird was just logging a boat-load of errors every time I brought it up, which got surfaced in log-check.
[19:50] <Mooncairn> Speaking of log checking, Ubuntu doesn't seem to mail warning messages to root like Debian does by default, nor is there a .xsession-errors for X problems.
[19:59] <Mooncairn> Ugh. It doesn't look like GNOME's calendar program supports tasks unless I've missed something.
[20:31] <Mooncairn> *sigh* I'm back in Calendar Hell which I'd thought I had left behind with KDE.
[20:34] <Mooncairn> At least I'm not losing calendars or having events getting eaten by the PIM system, so there's that. :S
[20:36] <Mooncairn> Anyway, I found some breadcrumbs to the whole freezing thing. I'm seeing a lot of GNOME keymap reassaignment errors in syslog around the time of the freeze, and there's been reports by others with the same thing.
[20:37] <Mooncairn> Best guess right now is that GNOME is flooding the kernel's logging system with errors faster than the kernel can write them out, and the freezing is a result of the kernel pausing the offending process.
[20:37] <Mooncairn> I'm not sure if I buy that, but it does fit the evidence pattern so far...
[21:45] <cmaloney> ah, that makes sense
[22:23] <Mooncairn> Oh lovely, Clementine is spitting out debug messages into the syslog every 10 seconds.