[00:00] <daftykins> oddly enough i've had a situation where the progress value didn't load xD 
[00:00] <Eickmeyer> Heh, which also means a bad write or bad media or both.
[00:00] <daftykins> it was neither
[00:01] <daftykins> it was HP iLO virtual console
[00:01] <Eickmeyer> Oh. I'm not familiar.
[00:02] <daftykins> ah so with workstation or server class hardware there's a dedicated NIC and a web management UI where you can load an HTML5 remote console to the system and mount an ISO to it over the network
[00:02] <Eickmeyer> Oh! Interesting. So, network disconnect amidst the check?
[00:02] <daftykins> even over gigabit LAN it's much slower though, so media checks become super painful
[00:03] <daftykins> possible, i got tired of how long it was taking that i had to bail - it was fine again on a reset :D
[00:03] <daftykins> i had myself to blame really as i was being too lazy to create media which would have been hugely faster
[00:03] <Eickmeyer> I'd say in those cases, when you have already run the check on that medium, it's probably fine to skip (Ctrl-C) unless it's a net dc, in which case you're screwed anyways.
[00:05] <JanC> yeah, you can easily do a media check locally on your laptop or whatever
[00:06] <JanC> or when it's an image, just check the file
[00:06] <JanC> (it should have some sort of hash that you can check)
[00:07] <daftykins> mmm i know the options well
[00:07] <Eickmeyer> I mean, it would've been your standard SHA256SUM, but it's an Ubuntu .iso anyhow, which will automatically check itself no matter what.
[00:09] <daftykins> anywho i think i'll walk away now, things may have calmed down but that was still a very unwelcome exchange
[00:10] <Eickmeyer> daftykins: For that, I apologize. Just know that arraybolt3 is doing a TON of contribution on the development end of things and knows quite a bit, so don't be so dismissive. That's kind of what set me off.
[00:13] <gry> Eickmeyer: ive found it strange, the accusation daftykins 'being argumentative with those in here that are [helping with ubuntu development]'... i think daftykins is trying to be productive in what he suggests, and if he isn't, then it needs to be considered bit by bit, one case by one case, rather than accusing of not being a dev
[00:13] <gry> and thats me being an outsider so i'm not reading beyond what is being said in the chat
[00:16] <Eickmeyer> gry: Yeah, it was more having to do with what set me off, not so much him not being a dev with Ubuntu. That was a little unfair, but it was more based on a personal observation of mine.
[00:16] <Eickmeyer> gry: Had nothing to do with you, btw.
[00:19] <gry> i think daftykins is quite knowledgeable, shouldnt be worse than arraybolt3 regardless
[00:19] <gry> i didnt see you here before, it's a pleasure to meet you in any case. most people are asleep when it's daytime here
[00:21] <Eickmeyer> gry: Pleasure to meet you as well. I'm all over the place, so don't be too surprised to see me from time to time. I'm more on the audio/video side of things, being the Ubuntu Studio lead.
[00:21] <Eickmeyer> And yes, daftykins is VERY knowledgeable. :)
[00:22] <gry> does it mean you know everything the planet could possibly know about combination of Intel UHD 620 gpu and Intel i7 -8650U x 8 cpu and why they dont work together and what video driver is needed :)
[00:23] <gry> i'm pulling your leg, getting more debug info in channel now
[00:30] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, no clue. Should work in the kernel because it's Intel and 8th generation.
[00:31] <Eickmeyer> If it were 12th generation or later, you'd have a harder time.
[00:52] <gry> !reportbug
[00:52] <gry> !bugreport
[00:53] <gry> working with nomodeset, not working without - i suggested them to report a bug, i'm out of ideas
[00:53] <gry> should be included into the kernel by default
[01:07] <Eickmeyer> gry: Agreed. And for future reference:
[01:07] <Eickmeyer> !bug
[01:07] <ubottu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[01:07] <Eickmeyer> Oh, you found it. :)
[01:54] <gry> yes, i found it in privmsg to the bot; thaks for noting it in channel, may be easier for me to keep track
[01:56] <gry> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe-5.4/+bug/2000491 the package against which this is filed is completely wrong, no? i was expecting them to file against some linux*image* package
[01:56] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Launchpad bug 2000491 in linux-signed-hwe-5.4 (Ubuntu) "Dell Latitude 7390 running Ubuntu 18.04.6 fresh install system non-recoverable after screen lock and screen completely fades to black or after system goes into sleep" [Undecided, New]
[01:59] <arraybolt3> (For those who wonder why I'm /part'ing out of a bunch of support channels on the Matrix side, I'm still here on IRC, I just am trying to clean up my Matrix stuff and I don't need those channels on Matrix and IRC.)
[01:59] <gry> arraybolt3: thats good
[01:59] <gry> is there anything valuable thats available on matrix side that isn't available on irc
[02:00] <gry> something thatd motivate me to join matrix to check it out
[02:00] <arraybolt3> Easy screenshot sharing, built-in pastebin of sorts, easy file sharing, typing indicators, and read receipts. :) It's really awesome.
[02:00] <gry> arraybolt3: i mean in regards to channels/groups that are not on irc
[02:00] <arraybolt3> It's not really necessary for getting support (or even giving support), but for the development world it's awesome.
[02:01] <gry> https://convos.chat <-- web based irc client with image sharing and pastebin
[02:01] <arraybolt3> gry: There's the #ubuntu:matrix.org channel, which is different than #ubuntu on Libera.Chat. It has some interesting stuff. I help moderate it.
[02:01] <gry> but they all really suck, i think, they dont allow combining multiple channels in one buffer
[02:01] <gry> so i only like weechat and irssi really
[02:01] <arraybolt3> There are some other channels on there that I've briefly looked into, but so far that's not really gone all that well.
[02:01] <gry> i can bet some large sum of money that matrix clients dont have this feature
[02:02] <arraybolt3> The federated nature of Matrix makes it easy for people to be allowed to spew junk all over creation in their own channel on their homeserver.
[02:02] <gry> like discord
[02:02] <arraybolt3> (I mean, not super easy, but way easier than on IRC.)
[02:02]  * arraybolt3 never used discord, so I dunno for sure
[02:02] <arraybolt3> Anyway, for chat, I actually prefer IRC, but for collaboration and development, Matrix is the way to go.
[02:02] <gry> it has homeservers anyone can make
[02:03] <arraybolt3> (Also, if you're looking for interesting places to talk, keep in mind that there are ## channels on Libera, too.)
[02:03] <gry> right. so what matrix 'server' would you suggest for sane group there that does development or collaboration and that isnt on irc yet
[02:03] <gry> i appreciate your insight also. i didnt make it to matrix after irc.mozilla.org died
[02:03] <gry> they moved to matrix and any matrix client i found was incredibly annoying
[02:04] <arraybolt3> What server you use doesn't really matter so much - any server can access channels on any other server (sorta anyway). Pick a server you trust and go with it.
[02:04] <arraybolt3> I personally use the main Matrix.org homeserver, and also a private server that our local chaosadmin in Lubuntu-land made for us.
[02:06] <arraybolt3> gry: You're a WeeChat person too? Fun, that's the one I finally settled on, too.
[02:09] <arraybolt3> (Homeserver switching)
[02:17] <arraybolt3> Speaking of Matrix, I have now fully migrated to the Lubuntu homeserver except for a couple of massive rooms! Woot!
[02:18] <arraybolt3> And I don't even need the two massive rooms, so that will let me finish the migration!
[03:31] <arraybolt3> oerheks: Why would we be so adamant about not answering the question trogdor actually asked? Obviously, yes, Plex should know about the problem, but why not at least try to offer a workaround?
[03:35] <oerheks> as there is non, besides aa-complain ?
[03:38] <oerheks> plex server and httpsc at 1.30, plex deskotop at 1.60
[03:40] <arraybolt3> Sorry, I'm realizing I sound really harsh. I shouldn't do that.
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[09:59] <marcoagpinto> guys!
[09:59] <marcoagpinto> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1860899
[09:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Launchpad bug 1860899 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Add extra information to tabs in folders" [Wishlist, Triaged]
[09:59] <marcoagpinto> another fix to a wish I suggested
[09:59] <marcoagpinto> :)
[09:59] <marcoagpinto> 3 years to fix it, not too bad
[09:59] <marcoagpinto> I am glad to be alive to see the fix
[16:10] <Eickmeyer> marcoagpinto: Not sure you read the whole bug report, but Launchpad only interpreted the closure as "Fix Released". When you actually look at the bug report, it was closed as "out of scope" meaning they won't do it.
[16:10] <Eickmeyer> The upstream bug report, that is.
[16:10] <marcoagpinto> what
[16:10] <marcoagpinto> ?
[16:11] <marcoagpinto> but in the email I received it was written to be fixed
[16:11] <Eickmeyer> The upstream bug report for Nautilus on the feature you wanted is here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/685
[16:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Issue 685 in GNOME/nautilus "Need a column 'Duration in minutes' (for video and audio files)" [Closed]
[16:11] <marcoagpinto> so, no one will implement it?
[16:11] <marcoagpinto> :(((((((((((((
[16:12] <Eickmeyer> Correct.
[16:12] <marcoagpinto> I am so sad, I will never make more suggestions
[16:12] <marcoagpinto> three years later they reply to it
[16:12] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, Ubuntu doesn't actually do any development on Nautilus, that would be the Gnome project.
[16:15] <marcoagpinto> I still haven't understood much about that Gnome and Ubuntu stuff
[16:15] <marcoagpinto> so, Gnome does the GUI?
[16:15] <marcoagpinto> and other people make the Ubuntu?
[16:18] <oerheks> tip 5; extra columns https://www.makeuseof.com/nautilus-extensions-to-enhance-your-gnome-file-manager/
[16:18] <Eickmeyer> marcoagpinto: That's correct.
[16:19] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaa :(((((((
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> marcoagpinto: FYI, I put my bug team hat on and closed the bug, but I gave some advice in my comment.
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> BTW, I'll send you some cola as soon as I have some.
[16:20] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhhh
[16:20] <marcoagpinto> thanks
[16:20] <marcoagpinto> :)
[16:21] <marcoagpinto> I have spent a few hours today coding
[16:21] <marcoagpinto> :p
[16:21] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> Nice. I woke up and am drinking coffee.
[16:29] <arraybolt3> someone said coffee?
[17:04] <marcoagpinto> and I am retired for good!!!!
[17:04] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[17:04] <marcoagpinto> now I can work on the PhD and open-source
[17:04] <marcoagpinto> I am almost a free guy
[17:06] <marcoagpinto> I have written an official summary: https://proofingtoolgui.org/oath.html
[17:06] <marcoagpinto> :p
[17:17] <Eickmeyer> marcoagpinto: Musician?
[17:17] <marcoagpinto> what?
[17:17] <marcoagpinto> musician?
[17:18] <Eickmeyer> Do you make music?
[17:18] <marcoagpinto> no
[17:18] <marcoagpinto> I work on open-source as a hobby
[17:18] <Eickmeyer> Oh, nvm. I skimmed your summary. I was wrong.
[17:19] <marcoagpinto> right now I am working on the pt-PT autocorrect of LibreOffice
[17:20] <marcoagpinto> I will commit in january
[17:20] <Eickmeyer> Nice. I was going to invite you to help with Ubuntu Studio, but yeah, after seeing that you're more into LibreOffice, seems like a better fit. :)
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