[06:45] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: The problem in this case is the haruna dependency.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Heyo BluesKaj
[17:15] <Eickmeyer> RikMills, @ahoneybun: In Lunar, haruna lists "Recommends: yt-dlp | youtube-dl", so if you really want to, you can blacklist both, but it's really not that big of a deal, and not your problem as it's not yours to maintain.
 If we can use KDE software that would be better so I vote yes on the replacement.
[17:35] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: if we do that then the very obvious "open url" button on the toolbar will be completely useless, instead of maybe useless for some urls
[17:36] <RikMills> not a good user experience
[17:37] <RikMills> but anyway, we coud for a bit have both on the ISO perhaps, and decide on one before freezes hit?
[18:50] <Eickmeyer> Well, VLC is a complete cluster right now, from the arrogant lead dev to the broken vaapi to the constant crashes, so your call.
[18:53] <Eickmeyer> The other thing you could do is blacklist yt-dlp and youtube-dl but seed the snap of yt-dlp which would keep it constantly updated even after release. And, since it's not a gui app, it would happen in the background and be completely seamless.
[18:54] <Eickmeyer> The maintainer of the snap would just have to do a trick or two to get it compatible with being a seeded snap.
[19:55] <mparillo> Not that I mind (obviously, since I am running LL), but based on https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/haruna/-/tags/v0.9.3 it looks as if it is still in initial development? https://semver.org/#spec-item-4
[20:20] <RikMills> yeah, it one of the newer things that is a one man effort or at best just a few people. it could just stall or die
[20:22] <RikMills> I would not even faintly consider it if we were on a LTS cycle
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> Just a KDE Frameworks frontend to libmpv, so it's not like a whole ton to do really. Could go with mpv for the higher attention, but honestly, mountains and molehills.