[18:27] <lolek_> alkisg: hi, not sure you remember me but some time ago you gave me a link to https://github.com/stcz/initramfs-tools-network-hook for getting vlan working in initramfs, long story short I'd like to know if you're using it and if you found any problems with it?
[18:30] <lolek_> alkisg, I'm asking cause it seems for me on debian 11.5 it's not willing to work :(
[18:46] <alkisg> lolek_: no I'm not using it my switches support vlan per port
[18:47] <lolek_> alkisg, yes mine to but I need to have two vlans over one nic 
[18:47] <lolek_> hence I need to handle this on the box not on the switch
[18:47] <alkisg> I only need that for the servers not the clients
[18:48] <lolek_> well the box I'm using is a server.. file server but need to be visible in two vlans
[18:49] <lolek_> so I prefer to have it two address from two different vlans over one NIC
[18:49] <lolek_> then I can expose required services on the needed network 
[18:49] <alkisg> In my servers networking is brought up after the initramfs,  so I'm using network manager 
[18:51] <lolek_> no go I need it earlier because of encryption
[18:52] <alkisg> Yeh I get it
[18:52] <JanC> if the server has 2 NICs, you could still set up 2 VLANs on the switch, of course...
[18:54] <JanC> (if you can't get the software solution to work...)
[18:54] <lolek_> JanC, only one nic... it's for home use so second nic would increase power consumption
[18:55] <lolek_> right now I got down up to 9W when idle with 1 ssd
[18:55] <JanC> right
[18:56] <lolek_> JanC, yeah that's an option of a last resort, right now the system already handle that the only problem is the initramfs and dropbear
[18:56] <JanC> home switch probably has less ports available also  :)
[18:57] <lolek_> JanC, I've got 16 port switch, had to upgrade since the old one was not enough already :D
[18:57] <JanC> more ports = more power consumption for switches too  :)
[18:57] <lolek_> JanC, yes but there's only 8 or 16
[18:58] <lolek_> nothing in between and when ports are not used, they're shut off so it's not like always 100% energy
[18:58] <JanC> the processors in those switches have to be capable to handle all the traffic when all are in use though
[18:59] <JanC> OTOH, maybe those home switches aren't designed to run all ports at full speed all the time  :)
[19:01] <lolek_> JanC, previous switch max power usage was 3.3 it was dump 8 port switch, now I've got managed switch 16 port and according to the spec sheet it's 10W I understand that it's when all ports are in use
[19:01] <lolek_> but yeah... not much I can do with that I need 11 ports so 
[19:01] <lolek_> and vlans :D
[19:02] <JanC> I need to buy a non-dumb switch for home some day...
[19:06] <lolek_> JanC, pick up carefully ... tp-link has better power efficency but lacks some functionality, d-link has that but use more power
[19:06] <lolek_> I can also say that I'm quite positively surprised with d-link support
[19:07] <JanC> yeah, it's why I haven't bought one yet; first need to figure out what I want exactly
[19:07] <lolek_> JanC, now I need to buy another switch also managed
[19:07] <lolek_> JanC, pm? so we won't spam here
[19:09] <JanC> it's not a "soon" project for me probably, and by the time I buy one TP-link might be better than D-link, or there might be another better option still, etc.  :)
[19:14] <alkisg> Why do you need vlans at the initramfs? You can unlock the encryption with vlan1 = native, and initialize vlan2 later on
[19:14] <lolek_> JanC, there was a problem between tp-link and d-link, the first one was missing some functionality I think it was link aggregation 
[19:14] <lolek_> alkisg, on switch the port is set to trunk so I need tagged packets 
[19:15] <lolek_> alkisg, if packes won't be tagget switch won't pass it up to the router
[19:15] <lolek_> *packets
[19:19] <lolek_> ok, need to go, alkisg JanC thanks for the conv
[19:20] <alkisg> 👍