| OvenWerks | the partition manager doesn't open corectly in wayland either, the password box is below the main window :P | 17:24 |
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| OvenWerks | muon gets this correct, so I would guess this is a partition manager bug. | 17:39 |
| OvenWerks | muon doesn't, however, show all packages that are installed :P | 17:46 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: 22.10? | 18:00 |
| OvenWerks | 22.04 | 18:11 |
| OvenWerks | Oh and this is with wayland, it works fine in X | 18:11 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, there's part of the problem. The KDE people will fix bugs but don't backport their bugfixes into their own LTS version (5.24) typically because the technical debt is astronomical. | 18:12 |
| Eickmeyer | Also, make sure you have Kubuntu Backports enabled for the latest bugfixes sooner because getting the entire thing SRU'd is next-level. ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports | 18:13 |
| Eickmeyer | Wayland is working much better in 5.26 (22.10 with backports or Lunar) | 18:14 |
| OvenWerks | re qt designer, the version available is qt6 but the libs and modules are all qt5? | 18:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Depends on where you're getting qt designer. | 18:19 |
| OvenWerks | ubuntu repos? | 18:19 |
| OvenWerks | I want to use pyqt | 18:20 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, that looks like it, I would assume you can use qtdesigner6 to build qt5, but everything is moving to qt6 anyhow, which isn't that much of a jump. | 18:21 |
| Eickmeyer | I wouldn't use the libs in 22.04 to make anything since everything is in transition. Qt6 is in 22.10 and newer. | 18:23 |
| OvenWerks | so I should upgrade then | 18:26 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, you've always been the type to want to stay on the LTS, but it seems that your use case has changed a lot. | 18:27 |
| OvenWerks | it is not obvious how to do that.... gui wise | 18:27 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, now it should be easier. go to software sources and change it to regular releases. You should get a popup on the next restart that tells you that 22.10 is out. | 18:28 |
| OvenWerks | for this machine, it would not hurt. I would like to keep my home intact | 18:28 |
| OvenWerks | software sources is where? | 18:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Should be in the menu, just search for it. | 18:29 |
| Eickmeyer | Assuming you have backports enabled. | 18:29 |
| OvenWerks | I thought I did, but not... have to wait for all the updating from adding the kubuntu BP | 18:30 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh, I meant our backports. | 18:31 |
| Eickmeyer | ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports | 18:31 |
| OvenWerks | Yup, but there were well over 200 packages from the kubuntu one... it takes time :) | 18:31 |
| Eickmeyer | AH, gotcha. | 18:32 |
| OvenWerks | what took kit is installer? | 18:34 |
| OvenWerks | it uses a tiny font :P | 18:35 |
| Eickmeyer | ubuntustudio-installer or the system installer (Calamares)? | 18:36 |
| Eickmeyer | ubuntustudio-installer is just tk/tcl. :P | 18:37 |
| Eickmeyer | The system installer is Qt. | 18:37 |
| OvenWerks | so tcl needs to find out what the system font is and use it. | 18:38 |
| OvenWerks | 54 more updates | 18:41 |
| OvenWerks | removing liquorix does not call the right things... I ended up with a grub that had only windows and bios :P put install image in download boot-repair at least I am abl;e to boot but the extra oem kernel does not show. | 20:15 |
| * OvenWerks will worry about that after the upgrade to 22.10 | 20:16 | |
| OvenWerks | The ETA of which is jumping from 47 minutes left to several days... | 20:16 |
| OvenWerks | just over half way through the fetch part | 20:17 |
| Eickmeyer | You might have to remove ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings because it only recognizes generic and lowlatency. | 20:18 |
| OvenWerks | Yeah I had to do that for liquorix. The boot repair probably did a chmod +x to 09-* in the grub dir. | 20:19 |
| OvenWerks | but it seems everything works on this kernel this time. So maybe I won't need it. | 20:21 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, that's good. | 20:21 |
| OvenWerks | I can't remember which thing it was that required the upgrade... but waydroid works, touch pad works, touchscreen works. | 20:24 |
| Eickmeyer | I think it was your touchscreen? It needed a newer kernel. | 20:25 |
| Eickmeyer | It needed 6.0. 22.10 has kernel 5.19 which should be good enough as it's just one step down from 6.0./ | 20:25 |
| OvenWerks | it is working right now on 5.15... maybe somethin g to do with wayland? | 21:02 |
| OvenWerks | the camera doesn't work it seems but it seems that it does in similar models that have a Fn key (multimedia key) that turns the camera on and off. | 21:03 |
| OvenWerks | I suspect that means there is a signal that needs to be sent to the camera to turn it on via software. | 21:05 |
| Eickmeyer | That might be it, Wayland (and libinput) are where the touchscreen support is. | 21:05 |
| OvenWerks | but no one seems to have figured out what that is or has sugested that might be the case | 21:05 |
| OvenWerks | it says about 3 min to boot. | 21:06 |
| Eickmeyer | That seems excessive. | 21:07 |
| OvenWerks | s/to/till/ | 21:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh, that's valid then and makes more sense. | 21:19 |
| snd | systemd-analyze blame | 21:30 |
| snd | ^ helps to see which service takes long to boot | 21:32 |
| Eickmeyer | snd: I think he was upgrading his machine 22.04 > 22.10 which explains the 3 mins. | 21:46 |
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