[17:24] the partition manager doesn't open corectly in wayland either, the password box is below the main window :P [17:39] muon gets this correct, so I would guess this is a partition manager bug. [17:46] muon doesn't, however, show all packages that are installed :P [18:00] OvenWerks: 22.10? [18:11] 22.04 [18:11] Oh and this is with wayland, it works fine in X [18:12] Yeah, there's part of the problem. The KDE people will fix bugs but don't backport their bugfixes into their own LTS version (5.24) typically because the technical debt is astronomical. [18:13] Also, make sure you have Kubuntu Backports enabled for the latest bugfixes sooner because getting the entire thing SRU'd is next-level. ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [18:14] Wayland is working much better in 5.26 (22.10 with backports or Lunar) [18:18] re qt designer, the version available is qt6 but the libs and modules are all qt5? [18:19] Depends on where you're getting qt designer. [18:19] ubuntu repos? [18:20] I want to use pyqt [18:21] Well, that looks like it, I would assume you can use qtdesigner6 to build qt5, but everything is moving to qt6 anyhow, which isn't that much of a jump. [18:23] I wouldn't use the libs in 22.04 to make anything since everything is in transition. Qt6 is in 22.10 and newer. [18:26] so I should upgrade then [18:27] Well, you've always been the type to want to stay on the LTS, but it seems that your use case has changed a lot. [18:27] it is not obvious how to do that.... gui wise [18:28] Well, now it should be easier. go to software sources and change it to regular releases. You should get a popup on the next restart that tells you that 22.10 is out. [18:28] for this machine, it would not hurt. I would like to keep my home intact [18:28] software sources is where? [18:29] Should be in the menu, just search for it. [18:29] Assuming you have backports enabled. [18:30] I thought I did, but not... have to wait for all the updating from adding the kubuntu BP [18:31] Oh, I meant our backports. [18:31] ppa:ubuntustudio-ppa/backports [18:31] Yup, but there were well over 200 packages from the kubuntu one... it takes time :) [18:32] AH, gotcha. [18:34] what took kit is installer? [18:35] it uses a tiny font :P [18:36] ubuntustudio-installer or the system installer (Calamares)? [18:37] ubuntustudio-installer is just tk/tcl. :P [18:37] The system installer is Qt. [18:38] so tcl needs to find out what the system font is and use it. [18:41] 54 more updates [20:15] removing liquorix does not call the right things... I ended up with a grub that had only windows and bios :P put install image in download boot-repair at least I am abl;e to boot but the extra oem kernel does not show. [20:16] * OvenWerks will worry about that after the upgrade to 22.10 [20:16] The ETA of which is jumping from 47 minutes left to several days... [20:17] just over half way through the fetch part [20:18] You might have to remove ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings because it only recognizes generic and lowlatency. [20:19] Yeah I had to do that for liquorix. The boot repair probably did a chmod +x to 09-* in the grub dir. [20:21] but it seems everything works on this kernel this time. So maybe I won't need it. [20:21] Well, that's good. [20:24] I can't remember which thing it was that required the upgrade... but waydroid works, touch pad works, touchscreen works. [20:25] I think it was your touchscreen? It needed a newer kernel. [20:25] It needed 6.0. 22.10 has kernel 5.19 which should be good enough as it's just one step down from 6.0./ [21:02] it is working right now on 5.15... maybe somethin g to do with wayland? [21:03] the camera doesn't work it seems but it seems that it does in similar models that have a Fn key (multimedia key) that turns the camera on and off. [21:05] I suspect that means there is a signal that needs to be sent to the camera to turn it on via software. [21:05] That might be it, Wayland (and libinput) are where the touchscreen support is. [21:05] but no one seems to have figured out what that is or has sugested that might be the case [21:06] it says about 3 min to boot. [21:07] That seems excessive. [21:18] s/to/till/ [21:19] Oh, that's valid then and makes more sense. [21:30] systemd-analyze blame [21:32] ^ helps to see which service takes long to boot [21:46] snd: I think he was upgrading his machine 22.04 > 22.10 which explains the 3 mins.