[00:59] <b0id[m]> Ovenwerks, send me info on dev workflow or docs related  on contributions.  
[01:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> b0id: OvenWerks is mostly focused on Studio Controls, the source for which is at https://github.com/ovenwerks/studio-controls, but I think he's drumming up something new which may or may not be Ubuntu Studio-related.
[18:58] <OvenWerks> b0id[m]: That question confuses me. Like I have missed the first half of the conversation.
[18:59] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: which tool kit did you use for uninstaller?
[18:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: kdialog
[18:59] <Eickmeyer[m]> And zenity for the progress indicator
[19:00] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I was wondering if it maade sense to combine installer into it. Installer does not deal well with hidpi screens
[19:01] <OvenWerks> but it sounds like it is written in bash?
[19:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> I've been considering a rewrite of installer into kdialog or zenity for a while since it really doesn't need that much. Really zenity would be best as it can monitor progress a whole lot better than kdialog.
[19:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> Kdialog is just easier for initial dialogs. Right now I'm working on a rewrite for edubuntu.
[19:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> Trying to use zenity alone.
[19:03] <OvenWerks> basically, tk/tcl or fltk seem to suffer from not dealling with DE font sizing.
[19:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Either toolkit would be so much better on HighDPI.
[19:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Right, that was part of my initial concern a while back, but we kicked that can down the road.
[19:04] <OvenWerks> Not pyqt?
[19:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> PyQt would work, but I know Kdialog because I know Bash scripting best.
[19:05] <OvenWerks> :)
[19:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> Also, I'm thinking about GTK desktops, which still outnumber Qt desktops in the Ubuntu flavor world.
[19:06] <OvenWerks> I am assuming you want to stay away from gtk/glade
[19:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, studio-controls still uses gtk/glade, right?
[19:07] <OvenWerks> gtk/glade would probably be easiest because we have some experience
[19:07] <OvenWerks> yes
[19:08] <OvenWerks> I think ouyr menueditor was glade as well
[19:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, I have no problem with that, especially because it still blends with the desktop and works well with non-Qt desktops.
[19:09] <OvenWerks> If we want a starting point the menu editor would be the better of the two. Controls is based on someone elses start and is not really cleaned up
[19:09] <OvenWerks> menu edit was from a frsh start.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> Whatever you think is best if you want to lead the charge on this.
[19:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> How's the progress on controls?
[19:13] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: I will be working on a songbook like app at some point but I have gotten something working via waydroid for now.
[19:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> Cool!
[19:15] <OvenWerks> controls needs work. mostly autojack. I did some work on it but am going to have pull some of it out I think. I was trying to combine pw and jack in the same calls and it looks like I am better to just add a bunch of if pw skip kinds of thing and do pw separate... better for my mental health
[19:16] <OvenWerks> PW has mostly all it's own calls for everything we need anyway.
[19:18] <OvenWerks> At some point I may have to change everything jack to jackd instead of jackdbus unless I start jackdbus manually instead of with dbus calls. When started with dbus calls, jackdbus sometimes uses pw jack libs which is a mess.
[19:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> I see. Well, if it's any help, the file/symlink is pipewire-jack.conf in /etc/ld.so.conf.d like you recommended. Without that, pw-jack is disabled.
[19:21] <OvenWerks> that is the same mechanism I am using.
[19:23] <OvenWerks> It is for cases where jack is used as a pw devicde.
[19:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> Right, I followed your lead so that we're keeping the same file.
[19:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm modifying /usr/sbin/ubuntustudio-pwjack-config so that it can not only set the default buffersize, but also enable/disable which basically deletes or creates that symlink on demand. Obviously it will require a reboot after the ldconfig is run, but it will tell the user.
[19:24] <OvenWerks> gotta run... I'm the driver.
[19:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ah, have fun.
[19:27] <OvenWerks> When I can, I will push what I have to github so I can pull to this machine. So I can work on it when my wife is home. She prefers my presence in the same room :)
[19:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> So does mine. LUL
[19:27] <OvenWerks> Part of the reason we got this machine