[15:59] <jawn-smith> o/
[16:00] <ginggs> o/
[16:00] <jawn-smith> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:01] <danilogondolfo> o/
[16:01] <slyon> o/
[16:01] <jawn-smith> The weekly status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-5-january-2023/33029
[16:01] <jawn-smith> Let's all take our usual time to read and ask questions
[16:02] <slyon> waveform: FYI (libcamera), I rejected that MIR recently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcamera/+bug/1997560
[16:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997560 in libcamera (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcamera" [Undecided, New]
[16:02] <slyon> hopefully we'll get it approved in Lunar+1
[16:03] <bdmurray> enr0n: was there anything interesting in the upgrade bugs?
[16:04] <enr0n> bdmurray: No, just the usual suspects
[16:04] <waveform> slyon, ah, interesting -- I was looking into the state vs upstream (raspios has quite a bit in libcamera that we haven't but then they're actively working on getting the pi camera modules working on it)
[16:04] <enr0n> Though there was a request to modernize some warning, let me find the bug number
[16:05] <enr0n> bdmurray: bug 2000416
[16:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2000416 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Can the upgrade take several hours?" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2000416
[16:05] <bdmurray> schopin: is there a timeline for this glibc SRU? he said worrying about the queues
[16:05] <adrien> slyon: the version number (v0.0.x) is not very representative I think: it does a lot of things already and I think it's been fairly stable
[16:05] <schopin> bdmurray: not yet, but I'm very aware of that :)
[16:06] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: was pyside2 causing the s390x queue issues?
[16:06] <slyon> adrien: right. but they didn't have a release process at all up until recently. and there were some other factors that made me feel it's not yet stable enough (though getting more solid now)
[16:07] <waveform> yeah, it's definitely not "stable" yet :)
[16:08] <bdmurray> enr0n: removing packages can take a long time https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1874272
[16:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1874272 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Stage 'searching for obsolete software' takes a very long time (30 minutes)" [High, Confirmed]
[16:08] <adrien> slyon: yup, and it's frustrating because the existing alternatives are quite lacking imho
[16:09] <mclemenceau_> o/
[16:09] <slyon> full ack. we now have the desktop team signed up to this, and they'll help getting it into a better shape inside Debian & Ubuntu
[16:10] <jawn-smith> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:10] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:11] <jawn-smith> bug 1998095
[16:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1998095 in pkgconf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pkgconf, replacement for pkg-config" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998095
[16:11] <jawn-smith> We talked about this last year
[16:11] <jawn-smith> The plan is to wait for pkgconf's new version to migrate, right?
[16:11] <slyon> I think we can untag that.
[16:11] <slyon> we made the decission to take ownership
[16:12] <bdmurray> Did we subscribe to the package?
[16:12] <slyon> we are subscribed
[16:13] <jawn-smith> Okay slyon can you untag it?
[16:13] <slyon> done.
[16:13] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:13] <jawn-smith> That's it for ll
[16:14] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:14] <jawn-smith> bug 1842439
[16:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1842439 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "apport-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in _gtk_settings_get_screen(settings=0x0) from gtk_css_value_icon_theme_compute() from gtk_css_static_style_compute_value()" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842439
[16:14] <jawn-smith> I feel like we've talked about this like 5 times
[16:14] <schopin> you're low on your count...
[16:14] <jawn-smith> Looks like the last time we discussed it there was an action item for bdmurray to bring it up at the desktop sync
[16:14] <jawn-smith> did that happen?
[16:15] <bdmurray> yes, and they said apport should protect against this type of crash
[16:15] <jawn-smith> So does that mean there's a task for foundations here?
[16:16] <schopin> bdrung: didn't you say it wasn't possible to detect the bad case from Python?
[16:16] <bdmurray> "apport should catch the error and work around the issue" he read from the notes
[16:16] <schopin> catch a segfault? oO
[16:17] <jawn-smith> Okay bdmurray to update the bug, and we'll discuss again when b_drung is available
[16:17] <jawn-smith> That's it for kk then
[16:17] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:17] <jawn-smith> bug 1957863
[16:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1957863 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "coding errors in update-motd-fsck-at-reboot script" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1957863
[16:18] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: you tagged this one
[16:18] <jawn-smith> It appears the submitter has suggested a fix
[16:19] <bdmurray> It seems like it should be pretty straight forward
[16:19] <jawn-smith> So we just need a person to work on this
[16:21] <jawn-smith> bdmurray says someone who is seeking upload rights should work on this
[16:21] <jawn-smith> enr0n ?
[16:21] <jawn-smith> I'll review and sponsor
[16:22] <jawn-smith> Moving on then
[16:22] <jawn-smith> bug 1999345
[16:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345
[16:22] <jawn-smith> juliank says no
[16:22] <jawn-smith> apparently juliank says maybe
[16:23] <jawn-smith> juliank to touch base with the security team (specifically Chris)
[16:23] <adrien> re update-notifier, shellcheck only complains about one instance of that typo (and it's a better way to develop than -u)
[16:23] <jawn-smith> adrien: good to know, thanks
[16:25] <jawn-smith> #topic proposed-migration
[16:25] <jawn-smith> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:25] <jawn-smith> This will be slightly different from normal
[16:25] <jawn-smith> The s390x and arm64 queues are struggling, so we're going to skip any regressions on those architectures for now
[16:26] <jawn-smith> dbus-glib has one amd64 regression
[16:26] <jawn-smith> I just retriggered it because it looks like flakiness
[16:27] <jawn-smith> git has a few regressions we can look into
[16:27] <schopin> I can take git.
[16:27] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:29] <jawn-smith> adduser has a few that aren't s390 or arm64
[16:29] <jawn-smith> I'll take adduser
[16:29] <jawn-smith> python-werkzeug has some as well
[16:29] <jawn-smith> any volunteers?
[16:29] <slyon> I can take that
[16:29] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:30] <jawn-smith> sysvinit has some we can look at
[16:30] <jawn-smith> any volunteers?
[16:30] <ogayot> I can have a look
[16:30] <jawn-smith> Excellent, thanks
[16:30] <jawn-smith> systemd has one ppc64el regression
[16:30] <jawn-smith> enr0n ?
[16:30] <enr0n> yeah
[16:31] <jawn-smith> debootstrap: any volunteers?
[16:31] <waveform> I can take that; given the u-u regression is already on my plate
[16:32] <jawn-smith> Thanks
[16:32] <adrien> I can ha... too slow
[16:32] <jawn-smith> devscripts is missing builds
[16:32] <jawn-smith> on all architectures it seems
[16:32] <ginggs> i'll take it
[16:32] <jawn-smith> ginggs to work that one
[16:32] <jawn-smith> coreutils, any volunteers?
[16:33] <adrien> I'm quite curious as to what "missing builds" mean
[16:33] <jawn-smith> Generally FTBFS
[16:33] <adrien> I can look at it
[16:33] <jawn-smith> perhaps it would be more accurate for it to say "failed builds"
[16:33] <adrien> nice thing is that coreutils makes coreutils fail
[16:33] <jawn-smith> but I think that "missing builds" might also include packages that just haven't built yet?
[16:33] <jawn-smith> Anyway, thanks for taking coreutils adrien
[16:34] <jawn-smith> libconfig-inifiles-perl
[16:34] <jawn-smith> Any takers?
[16:35] <jawn-smith> danilogondolfo: libconfig-inifiles-perl
[16:36] <jawn-smith> zope.interface: vpa
[16:36] <jawn-smith> libnet-domain-tld-perl
[16:37] <jawn-smith> xypron: can you take that one?
[16:37] <xypron> ok
[16:37] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:37] <jawn-smith> apport: bdrung
[16:38] <jawn-smith> juliank: sbuild?
[16:40] <jawn-smith> Everyone has one now
[16:40] <jawn-smith> #topic AOB
[16:44] <jawn-smith> #endmeeting
[16:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:44:48 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-01-05-16.01.moin.txt
[16:47] <bdmurray> I retried the apport one bdrung
[17:00] <bdrung> bdmurray, i pressed the retry as well.