[02:06] <bluesabre> JackFrost: Right, no need for it, yet, at least
[02:14] <JackFrost> I'll be uploading -settings tonight hopefully, if you merge that'll disable CSDs by default.
[02:15] <bluesabre> Alrighty. Need anything from me?
[02:16] <JackFrost> ...The merge if you will? :3
[02:19] <bluesabre> oh, uploading -settings to debian... I merge into Ubuntu
[02:19] <bluesabre> Riiiiiight
[02:20] <bluesabre> :)
[02:20] <JackFrost> I've grown to really hate merges, because I work on the same thing twice basically.  Hence trying to make -session syncable.  Also, thanks to #xfce I found and packaged qt6gtk2 :3
[02:22] <bluesabre> :)
[02:22] <bluesabre> I don't mind doing the merges (since you're really doing all the hard work anyway), feel free to always send them my way
[02:25] <JackFrost> systemload-plugin is ready too then.  I should get the new thunar-shares-plugin for the PPA too.
[04:25] <bluesabre> JackFrost: Want to review the newly updated xubuntu-core merge requests? https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/+git/debian-cd/+merge/435314 - https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/+git/livecd-rootfs/+merge/435315 - https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-cdimage/+git/ubuntu-cdimage/+merge/435316
[04:26] <JackFrost> Isn't extras.ubuntu.com very dead?
[04:27] <JackFrost> I *think* for Xubuntu Core it'd be better to not use maybe-ubiquity?
[04:30] <bluesabre> That makes sense
[04:31] <JackFrost> I don't know the stuff there very well, I think it looks good?  Is there something that indicates disk size needed or memory?
[04:32] <bluesabre> Yeah, that's over in ubuntu-cdimage, https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-cdimage/+git/ubuntu-cdimage/+merge/435316
[04:32] <bluesabre> Know the right numbers for core?
[04:34] <JackFrost> 4200165376 bytes unpacked I believe. :P
[04:35] <JackFrost> xubuntu-23.04-core-amd64.iso:casper/filesystem.size
[04:37] <JackFrost> Maybe since it's already on disk it's not in the project there anywhere?
[04:38] <bluesabre> It's just used for the warnings on the download page... we can probably get by without having it too accurate at this point :)
[04:39] <JackFrost> Yeah just leaving it or way overshooting is great.
[04:39] <JackFrost> Sounds great!
[04:39] <bluesabre> Cool
[04:40] <bluesabre> I think I can get eyes on those MRs this week. Chatting with Mauro on Wednesday and its one of the agenda items.
[04:40] <JackFrost> Oh right I got an email somewhere about something...that I didn't do anything with. >_>
[04:44] <JackFrost> krytarik did all of those last time, not me.  FWIW.
[04:58] <bluesabre> Hm, thoughts on naming it "Xubuntu Minimal" instead of "Xubuntu Core"? I think it's not-bad: https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/+git/debian-cd/+merge/435314/comments/1155306
[04:59] <JackFrost> Yeah just saw.  The problem is, it's been going by that name already for 7 years and is decently known as that.  We'd still have to, at least somewhat, introduce it as "Formerly Xubuntu Core" or something.
[04:59] <JackFrost> ...But if it gets this built on Ubuntu infra...
[05:00] <bluesabre> Yeah, for sure.
[05:09] <JackFrost> I promised -settings, grrr.
[05:10] <arraybolt3> Xubuntu Minimal just sounds... weird, IMO. Xubuntu Mini, maybe?
[05:10] <arraybolt3> If you want input at all, this is just me looking on the sidelines.
[05:11] <JackFrost> bluesabre: Were there any CSD bugs?  I don't see any requesting it off.
[05:12] <bluesabre> JackFrost: I don't think so... I probably WONTFIX'd them all a while ago
[05:13] <JackFrost> Haha, fair!
[05:13] <bluesabre> No hurry on -settings. I'm dead tired and not doing a merge tonight ;)
[05:13] <JackFrost> Yeah sleep would be good.  I'll get it before I shower.
[05:14] <JackFrost> arraybolt3: In case you didn't see scrollback, no Xubuntu Core until ~things~ are fixed in the main ISO.
[05:15] <arraybolt3> K, got it. Will be ready to test when a new one comes out, hopefully :)
[05:17] <JackFrost> Hmm, now I need to find a video to dload to test a https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/-/issues/910 fix..
[05:17] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Issue 910 in xfce/thunar "Thunar jumps to a new file" [Opened]
[05:21] <JackFrost> Good enough.
[05:24] <JackFrost> arraybolt3: Xubuntu Lean! /s
[05:25] <arraybolt3> Microbuntu?
[05:25] <arraybolt3> Ubuntiny! That's it!
[05:25] <arraybolt3> (Only just now realized how similar that last one looks to "mutiny" :-/)
[05:25] <JackFrost> Thought that was the point
[05:26] <arraybolt3> lol I wish I was that clever at this hour of the night. It was an accident.
[05:28] <arraybolt3> Sec, updating my IRC client...
[05:29] <arraybolt3> Alright that was fast.
[05:30] <JackFrost> Should have used that moment to update/reboot the server too.
[05:31] <JackFrost> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+sourcepub/14426167/+listing-archive-extra
[05:32] <JackFrost> 1. Backporting to a ppa.  2. Packaging xfce4-settings.  3. Patching and testing thunar.  4. Updating 4 Tor relays.  5. Screwing around on IRC.  I think I'm ADD. >_>
[05:35] <bluesabre> Productivity power!
[05:35] <arraybolt3> JackFrost: You're doing all that at once?
[05:35] <arraybolt3> Grief.
[05:36] <arraybolt3> (I don't get why we say "good grief" since grief isn't good, so sometimes I just drop the "good" at the start :P)
[05:37] <JackFrost> You clearly need to read/watch more Charlie Brown.
[05:38] <arraybolt3> lol
[05:38] <JackFrost> Also never claimed to do it *well*, just that I'm ADHD or something. :P
[05:38] <arraybolt3> I've watched so many Charlie Brown movies and read tons of Peanuts comics, I still don't think grief is good.
[05:39] <JackFrost> Well if you want to go there, actually yes.  There's a time and a place for it.  Better to do it properly than to just say you're fine and push through.
[05:39] <arraybolt3> I'm simultaneously trying to fix Debian packaging, type in two different IRC channels, and listen to music at once :D
[05:40] <arraybolt3> (re if you want to go there) Valid point. It's somewhat of a joke I was making - "good grief" was in a list of oxymorons I once read.
[05:40] <arraybolt3> (The end of the list, which also was Item #1, was "Microsoft Works" XD)
[05:41] <JackFrost> Katie Kei, Polsih singer, is what I seem to have on. :P
[05:41] <arraybolt3> Are you at all into instrumental music?
[05:42] <JackFrost> https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2017/07/good-grief.html if you were curious.  I love piano music and EDM? :P
[05:43] <arraybolt3> I have one instrumental piece I absolutely love - it's almost ten minutes long and is played by one guy with an acoustic guitar, but he's... uh... like really good at it (on par with Jimi Hendrix) and uses looping audio equipment so it sounds like he's an entire band.
[05:44] <arraybolt3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWj3U-2aL9s (Phil Keaggy "Shades of Green")
[05:44] <JackFrost> Phil Keaggy I have heard of, but not very fond of guitar music. :P
[05:45] <arraybolt3> Ah well. I also like piano music but don't know of any really good piano instrumental pieces.
[05:46]  * arraybolt3 is frustrated that I keep typing :Q into Vim rather than :q)
[05:46] <arraybolt3> s/)//
[05:48] <JackFrost> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn-13Tpu7vg she's my expection.  It's also great for campfire music.  Oh, I could spam you with my favorite piano players on there too. :P
[05:49] <arraybolt3> Nice. Sure, piano would be awesome.
[05:56] <JackFrost> Hm, no good shared channels.
[05:59] <arraybolt3> What other channels are you in?
[05:59] <arraybolt3> (Or there's always /msg)
[06:00] <JackFrost> Some ~113 others?
[06:00] <JackFrost> PM or #xubuntu-offtopic?
[06:00] <arraybolt3> Either way.
[06:00] <arraybolt3> Just joined -offtopic.