| Eickmeyer | leftyfb: Trying to help you out there. I really hate it when I get pushback from people I try to help, makes me throw my hands up. | 01:03 |
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| leftyfb | I get where they're coming from but it's a really old mentality that really isn't necessary anymore | 01:04 |
| Eickmeyer | I agree. What they really need to do is look at the syslogs. Journalctl will only show systemd messages. | 01:06 |
| leftyfb | IMO, it's not worth trying to figure out the tty1/tty2 relationship with the default DE and force it off to another (F7?) just so he can use tty1 ... and even then, I don't think the default printk does what he wants by default anyway. Hell, it'd probably be easier to just configure printk to write to tty4 or something | 01:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Exactly. This is where the syslogs are handy. | 01:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Viewing it in realtime, though, isn't handy because nothing is saved. syslogs are saved. | 01:07 |
| leftyfb | well, "syslog" is pretty useless these days. It doesn't have kernel messages in it. He either wants dmesg while you're in the broken session (pointless) or journalctl -k to perform forensics after the fact | 01:08 |
| Eickmeyer | They're not going to listen, though. I stop helping when they stop listening and start pushing back. | 01:09 |
| leftyfb | this isn't even one of the bad ones | 01:10 |
| leftyfb | I'll ping you the next time I get one of those :) | 01:11 |
| Eickmeyer | Heh, more than likely I'll conveniently not be around. XD | 01:11 |
| Eickmeyer | And yes, I've seen those. phr34k comes to mind. | 01:12 |
| leftyfb | no offense, but I doubt it ;) | 01:12 |
| Eickmeyer | heh | 01:12 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 05:42 |
| cartdrige | hey | 18:52 |
| Bashing-om | UWN: Issue769 now available to our reading public: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue769 :D | 20:52 |
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