[02:00] <arraybolt3> mmikowski: Been working on that KDE crash bug. It's... very elusive. I have it pinned down to the component (plasma-workspace) and know that Plasma/5.26 reliably crashes and master reliably doesn't... but finding the actual commit that fixes things has proven to be really difficult.
[02:03] <mmikowski> Ah, thanks Aaron.
[02:04] <mmikowski> It seems less common now in 22.04 (KDE 5.24.7).
[02:04] <mmikowski> But it is certainly still there :\
[02:05] <mmikowski> It might be a weird interaction between plasma and fameworks. I'm just guessing that because after the last frameworks upgrade, the crashiness seems less.
[02:06] <mmikowski> But seems != scientifically proven. It's just a feeling.
[02:06] <arraybolt3> So far what I know is that, when everything's Plasma/5.26, crashes happen. When you run all Plasma/5.26 but with just plasma-workspace built from master, the crashes vanish.
[02:07] <arraybolt3> The trouble is that the Plasma/5.26 branch and the master branch seem to have diverged *before* the release of Plasma/5.26 (how???) and so stuff that you would expect to work doesn't.
[02:07] <mmikowski> Is the crash the one when you are changing the theme?
[02:07] <arraybolt3> Like checking out the Plasma/5.26 merge commit in the master branch and building it results in a totally broken desktop.
[02:07] <arraybolt3> Yep, it's the theme changing crash.
[02:07] <mmikowski> That's the one I was talking about.
[02:07] <arraybolt3> Yeah. So we're on the same page.
[02:07] <mmikowski> Ah, so yeah, I just changed the theme 3 times with the layout also changing.
[02:07] <mmikowski> This is in 5.24.7 - and it hasn't crashed yet.
[02:08] <mmikowski> Before, it was crashing 50% of the time.
[02:09] <mmikowski> ok, after the 8th change, it has crashed.
[02:10] <mmikowski> Yup, plasmashell's dead, Jim.
[02:10] <mmikowski> Needed to use plasmashell --replace.
[02:11] <mmikowski> So yeah, less common, but still there.
[02:11] <arraybolt3> Yeah. I know there's a fix somewhere (or at least suspect so), so I'll keep looking.
[02:11] <mmikowski> Ah, git histories can be weird.
[02:12] <mmikowski> I'm no expert, but the branch commits can get interlaced.
[02:12] <arraybolt3> You ain't joking :P
[02:12] <mmikowski> So that's prolly what you're seeing.
[02:12] <mmikowski> I gotta run for family dinner, but I might be able to help next week.
[02:13] <arraybolt3> o/ See you later! Have a great night!
[02:13] <arraybolt3> (hey btw are you on Mastodon?)
[02:13] <mmikowski> I've gotta get this new kernel package built and we have new hardware coming soon, so busy busy busy.
[02:13] <mmikowski> No, not yet anyway.
[02:13] <mmikowski> kk gotta run. ttys!
[02:13] <arraybolt3> k. If you ever make a Kubuntu Focus account on there, lemme know. I'm on @arraybolt3@ubuntu.social. See ya!
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:18] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: cool, thanks!
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[17:34] <mamarley> A snap containing an Electron app?
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