[05:22] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:26] <Y05hito__> ahoy.
[05:28] <Y05hito__> Ubuntu morning news: The new version of Ubuntu is available for floppy disk and tape readers in the dreams of ubottu. Don't hesitate to ask him a floppy drive for your fairphone. lol.
[16:05] <leftyfb> tomreyn: everything in that 2.5 year old article is wrong except for the fact that you can't run your own snap store
[16:05] <tomreyn> leftyfb: i assume the lefevre quote is probably correct, too
[16:05] <tomreyn> i mean, authentic
[16:06] <leftyfb> And this guy is just pure troll attitude
[16:10] <tomreyn> to me, they're 'dancing' on the line of what's acceptable, annoying, and surely sometimes crossing the line, but i would not take ops action at this time other than what i just did. sometimes it's better to grow a thick skin, /ignore and not call the ops so much, so that they may actually step too far if they want to and we can take proper action then.
[21:21] <cartdrige> wouldn't it be interesting to have a torrent based APK model so that anyone can upseed the .deb files?
[21:21] <cartdrige> instead of just relying on servers and mirrors, anyone could be a seed with the apks available on his machine, in the cache folder or other place on the system.
[21:24] <oerheks> How are we going to trust those debs? who is going to test them?
[21:25] <cartdrige> oerheks, all .deb have a checksum, so your computer can already have a checksum list that originates from the trusted seeds.
[21:26] <cartdrige> and other ones like PPA are not really trusted, cause they are not official.
[21:27] <cartdrige> the master seed would be ubuntu.org and other trusted mirrors.
[21:28] <oerheks>  indeed, trust the ppa owner, and how about ' so that anyone can upseed the .deb files' ... that is trusted?
[21:29] <oerheks> if you want software to be available, do a request. 
[21:30] <oerheks> i like snap packages, btw
[21:36] <JanC> cartdrige: you mean https://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent ?
[21:42] <JanC> (there used to be an implementation, but it is no longer maintained/packaged, I think)
[21:43] <cartdrige> JanC, Ha ok. rite, maybe it was too early and complicated when they tried. And not enough interest into that probably.
[21:44] <cartdrige> That could have been cool though, it might sprout out later lol.
[21:52] <JanC> the source code is still available here if you want to have a look... https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/debtorrent/ & https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/apt-transport-debtorrent/
[21:52] <JanC> it might no longer work on a modern distro, of course
[22:55] <cbreak> I'd really hope that .deb files are codesigned...
[22:55] <cbreak> so you wouldn't have to trust the distributor, just the signer