[05:22] good morning [05:26] ahoy. [05:28] Ubuntu morning news: The new version of Ubuntu is available for floppy disk and tape readers in the dreams of ubottu. Don't hesitate to ask him a floppy drive for your fairphone. lol. [16:05] tomreyn: everything in that 2.5 year old article is wrong except for the fact that you can't run your own snap store [16:05] leftyfb: i assume the lefevre quote is probably correct, too [16:05] i mean, authentic [16:06] And this guy is just pure troll attitude [16:10] to me, they're 'dancing' on the line of what's acceptable, annoying, and surely sometimes crossing the line, but i would not take ops action at this time other than what i just did. sometimes it's better to grow a thick skin, /ignore and not call the ops so much, so that they may actually step too far if they want to and we can take proper action then. [21:21] wouldn't it be interesting to have a torrent based APK model so that anyone can upseed the .deb files? [21:21] instead of just relying on servers and mirrors, anyone could be a seed with the apks available on his machine, in the cache folder or other place on the system. [21:24] How are we going to trust those debs? who is going to test them? [21:25] oerheks, all .deb have a checksum, so your computer can already have a checksum list that originates from the trusted seeds. [21:26] and other ones like PPA are not really trusted, cause they are not official. [21:27] the master seed would be ubuntu.org and other trusted mirrors. [21:28] indeed, trust the ppa owner, and how about ' so that anyone can upseed the .deb files' ... that is trusted? [21:29] if you want software to be available, do a request. [21:30] i like snap packages, btw [21:36] cartdrige: you mean https://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent ? [21:42] (there used to be an implementation, but it is no longer maintained/packaged, I think) [21:43] JanC, Ha ok. rite, maybe it was too early and complicated when they tried. And not enough interest into that probably. [21:44] That could have been cool though, it might sprout out later lol. [21:52] the source code is still available here if you want to have a look... https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/debtorrent/ & https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/apt-transport-debtorrent/ [21:52] it might no longer work on a modern distro, of course [22:55] I'd really hope that .deb files are codesigned... [22:55] so you wouldn't have to trust the distributor, just the signer === Jeremy31 is now known as rusolf === rusolf is now known as rudolf === rudolf is now known as Jeremy31