[15:51] <JustCurious> hello, I am trying to install the package PageEdit on Ubuntu Mate 20.04, but it's not in my repositories why?
[15:52] <JustCurious> accordint to https://www.faqforge.com/linux/how-to-install-pageedit-xhtml-editor-on-ubuntu/ it should be available, simply typing sudo apt install pageedit
[16:53] <tomreyn> is anyone aware of a public statement that Ubuntu MATE LTS releases are moving to a 5 year support lifecycle? I saw a 2025 EOL for 20.04 noted on the English language Wikipedia, but there's no reference there to back it up (so I added a 'citation missing' there for now).
[16:56] <superkuh> Seems unlikely that Ubuntu MATE would change it's lifecycle to be different from Ubuntu's. 
[17:00] <tomreyn> well ubuntu's is 5 years for LTS. i think most flavors have 3 years for LTS
[17:00] <superkuh> It's 4.
[17:00] <superkuh> Holy shit. I'm wrong.
[17:00] <superkuh> It's been 5 all this time?
[17:00] <superkuh> Huh.
[17:03] <tomreyn> superkuh: 3y for 18.04 LTS https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/ubuntu-mate-18-04-lts-reaches-end-of-life/23966
[17:03] <superkuh> With the 4 year cycles between lts's I always thought it was 4.
[17:04] <superkuh> Although I still use an Ubuntu 14.04 with MATE desktop machine under Canonical's ESM program today. Nice that ESM support/bug fixes extend so long.
[17:05] <tomreyn> it's been 5y (free, public support) for Ubuntu LTS releases for as long as i can think, 4y to cover the time until the next LTS, then another year to have time to migrate.
[17:05] <tomreyn> 14.04 ESM covers select packages, probably not those used by the MATE desktop
[17:06] <superkuh> Yes.
[17:06] <sixwheeledbeast> I always recall it as 1 year less but maybe that changed over the years.
[17:06] <superkuh> But it's not like MATE has changed a lot in the last decade.
[17:08] <tomreyn> so, unless we learn differently, i'd expect Ubuntu MATE to stick to the 3y LTS lifecycle.
[17:12] <tomreyn> s/until the next LTS/until the next but one LTS/