[01:21] <dtaht[m]> I would like to report a regression to the right channel in 22.10 - fq_codel is not enabled (tried both ubuntu studio and server) - it used to be defaulted via sysctl
[01:21] <Eickmeyer> !bug | dtaht[m]
[01:21] <dtaht[m]> It's been the default for years (enabled by systemd)... and it helps...
[01:23] <dtaht[m]> that tool does not work on ubuntu-server, as there's no way to open a browser from there.
[01:25] <themill> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_when_offline_or_using_a_headless_setup
[01:37] <theorem> if I am running 22.10 and have just caught a gnome(?) crash, where should I report it ?
[01:42] <dtaht[m]> reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1436945 - thx so much...
[01:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1436945 in linux (Ubuntu) "devel: consider fq_codel as the default qdisc for networking" [Low, Fix Released]
[01:48] <defcon5> necesito ayuda para instalar tor browser
[01:48] <defcon5> se queda instalando en ubuntu
[01:51] <theorem> not sure who owns that page but the apt package now specifies the python3 version instead of the generic "python" version  ie:  sudo apt-get -y install python3-launchpadlib    not the listed instructions of : sudo apt-get -y install python-launchpadlib
[01:55] <theorem> any clues what gjs is part of ?
[01:58] <genii> !info gjs
[01:58] <theorem> genii: clever !
[01:58] <theorem> Thanks
[01:58] <theorem> writing a bug report.
[01:59] <defcon5> can i help me with the error : SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FAILED in the installation of TOR in ubuntu
[02:02] <defcon5> in the terminal show this: E: El repositorio «https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/webupd8team/tor-browser/ubuntu jammy Release» no tiene un fichero de Publicación.
[02:02] <defcon5> N: No se puede actualizar de un repositorio como este de forma segura y por tanto está deshabilitado por omisión.
[02:02] <defcon5> N: Vea la página de manual apt-secure(8) para los detalles sobre la creación de repositorios y la configuración de usuarios.
[02:04] <arrayboltXE> defcon5: You're probably trying to install a package from a PPA that doesn't publish versions of software for your version of Ubuntu.
[02:04] <arrayboltXE> For instance, if you're running Kinetic, and the PPA only supports Jammy, this will happen.
[02:05] <arrayboltXE> Though in this instance it looks like that PPA doesn't support any version of Ubuntu that isn't either in ESM or entirely end-of-life.
[02:06] <arrayboltXE> defcon5: You should probably remove that PPA from your system so that updating works again.
[02:06] <defcon5> how install Tor en my version of ubuntu?
[02:07] <defcon5> or how install PPA in my sistem?
[02:09] <arrayboltXE> defcon5: You may be able to use this: https://www.torproject.org/download/
[02:09] <arrayboltXE> Download the .tar.gz, unpack it, and see what's in there. I suspect that will give you a working Tor browser.
[02:09] <arrayboltXE> (There's also a tor browser package in Ubuntu I believe, but it's not guaranteed to be updated and could be insecure as a result.)
[02:10] <defcon5> ready i download in my desk
[02:15] <arrayboltXE> defcon5: Once you have the .tar.gz downloaded, you should be able to just double-click it, and Archive Manager should appear.
[02:28] <yolo> cbreak: wayland works fine actually boot faster on ubuntu 22.04 with nvidia 525 driver
[02:29] <yolo> it's just a few apps had issues, mostly flameshot which I can not live without
[02:30] <yolo> x11 needs 4 minutes to login, also 1 minute shutdown, I guess x11 is crashing a few times in the back
[02:30] <theorem> 4 mins ?  that's insane
[02:30] <yolo> i know, spent many hours to debug to no avail
[02:30] <theorem> I have a desktop from boot and login in less than 10 seconds
[02:31] <yolo> 20.04 had no such issues at all
[02:31] <yolo> i would think it's caused by wayland, but no, it's by x11
[02:31] <theorem> you did this ? : systemd-analyze
[02:31] <yolo> of course, and it's not a systemd-analyze issue
[02:31] <theorem> https://itsfoss.com/check-boot-time-linux/
[02:31] <yolo> it's a gdm-xwindows login
[02:31] <theorem> and what does blame say ?
[02:32] <yolo> it boots to login screen in a few seconds
[02:32] <yolo> or i can logout x and login again, it's 4 minutes
[02:32] <theorem> right, then 4 minutes to get to the desktop is absurd , it sounds like something is timing out and forcing you to wait
[02:32] <hao> defcon5, `./start-tor-browser.desktop --register-app` will make tor run as a desktop app (i.e. you can click the icon to start it)
[02:32] <theorem> 4 minutes is suspicious similar to 2 back to back TCP timeouts.
[02:33] <theorem> my gut tells me there is a DNS problem ... but I can't be sure without more info
[02:33] <yolo> good point, might be a ipv6 issue
[02:33] <theorem> use that blame too, it looks like it tracks all times at startup
[02:34] <yolo> i block ipv6 on the router, and also disabled ipv6 on ubuntu, still something it tries to reach ipv6
[02:34] <theorem> oh, you said at login, hmm
[02:34] <yolo> the blame does not track things after login i think
[02:34] <theorem> yolo: you have to disable with sysctl.conf
[02:34] <theorem> net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
[02:34] <theorem> net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1
[02:34] <theorem> net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1
[02:35] <yolo> i added that 3 lines at install time
[02:35] <theorem> install time ?
[02:35] <theorem> they should be in /etc/sysctl.conf
[02:35] <yolo> mean right after install 22.04
[02:35] <theorem> check.
[02:35] <yolo> it's there
[02:35] <theorem> k
[02:35] <theorem> then it's not ipv6.
[02:36] <theorem> ifconfig will tell you if you have ipv6 too
[02:36] <yolo> just ping a random domain it's still trying ipv6?!
[02:36] <theorem> then it's not disabled
[02:36] <theorem> sysctl -a | grep ipv6
[02:37] <theorem> back in a bit, doing a firmware upgrade ..
[02:37] <yolo> net.ipv6.conf.enp3s0.disable_ipv6 = 0
[02:37] <yolo> net.ipv6.conf.wlp2s0b1.disable_ipv6 = 0
[02:37] <theorem> well, the "all" has to be set, I think you might have missed it ?
[02:38] <yolo> so, while all net.ipv6 is disabled, my two NICs are not?!
[02:38] <theorem> I can you can manually set it off
[02:38] <yolo> net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
[02:38] <theorem> *guess you can manually
[02:38] <yolo> let me add them to sysctl
[02:38] <theorem> or, you might have found a bug, but I suspect it's a typo in the sysctl.conf file
[02:41] <yolo> let me logout and verify
[02:43] <yolo> theorem: you're the man! i think that fixed it
[02:43] <yolo> i wasted 6 hours at least on debugging it
[02:43] <yolo> so,let one TCP to timeout is about 2 minutes?
[05:42] <LordDragon> hey all, kubuntu user here
[05:43] <LordDragon> whenever i try another dock like Latte and it grabs my Meta key, after I close Latte and try to go back to original KDE panel, i cannot reassign the meta key back to standard application launcher
[05:43] <LordDragon> i tried the ALT+F1 trick but that doesnt work either now
[05:43] <LordDragon> is there any kind of sensical way to easily assign your meta key to open the application launcher?
[05:51] <bobdobbs> Hi. I've just installed apache2 on an ubuntu 22.04 server. I'm in the process of setting up a LAMP stack host. I've installed a few things and rebooted. Then I've created a user and tried to add the new user to the www-data group. The command 'usermod -a -G groupName userName' returns "usermod: group 'www-data does not exist"
[05:52] <bobdobbs> but also the command "compgen -g | grep www-data" returns 'www-data'
[05:54] <bobdobbs> also, there is an entry in /etc/group for www-data
[06:17] <bobdobbs> huh, that's interesting. Despite the www-data group not existing, I can give group ownership of a directory to it
[06:37] <alkisg> bobdobbs: run `sudo pwck` and `sudo grpck`
[06:39] <bobdobbs> alkisg: hai. I've never come across those commands before. 'grpck' returns nothing. I'll pastebin the output of pwck...
[06:40] <bobdobbs> https://pastebin.pl/view/69cff7e3
[06:42] <alkisg> bobdobbs: hmm, if grpck doesn't complain then it doens't sound like a problem with your /etc/group. Try this: sudo gpasswd -a username www-data
[06:43] <bobdobbs> alkisg: that returns "Adding user [username] to group www-data". So that works. I'll test...
[06:44] <alkisg> bobdobbs: getent group www-data ==> will tell you the members
[06:44] <bobdobbs> I did 'groups [username]'. That confirms.
[06:45] <alkisg> Note that for group changes to take effect, these users will need to re-login
[06:45] <bobdobbs> Huh. I've never heard of "name service switch libraries" before. I'll have to google that.
[06:45] <bobdobbs> Thanks alkisg
[06:45] <alkisg> 👍️
[07:05] <lunatiq> will installing mailutils help me read root@localhost emails with 'mail'
[07:05] <lunatiq> from cli
[07:19] <tarzeau> lunatiq: https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/mailutils/filelist doesn't look like it
[07:19] <tarzeau> or maybe yes
[07:19] <tarzeau> my mail comes with bsd-mailx
[08:07] <nsaunders> I
[08:08] <nsaunders> I'm trying to remove the firefox snap:  https://pastebin.com/juS3Kpzm        but it's just taking forever.  Is there some better way of removing it?
[08:57] <phillinux> hello la team
[08:58] <CarloWood> Hello. I can't find libxml++ version 3 on ubuntu. Am I looking wrong, or does ubuntu not have that version yet?
[09:08] <Chunkyz> Morning all ❤️❣️
[09:08] <phillinux> morning Chunkyz
[09:09] <dsc_> ❤️❣️❤️❣️❤️❣️
[09:16] <nsaunders> where are the snap firefox files for users stored?
[09:17] <nsaunders> ~/snap/firefox/
[09:31] <ogra> CarloWood, looks like we only have 2.x currenly ... we inherit that package from debian and it seems they do not have any 3.x package either yet
[09:33] <CarloWood> ogra: ok, thanks
[10:03] <dorf> Hi, setting python3.11 as the system default leads to a couple of issues. One I can't seem to solve is apt failing on missing module apt_pkg - is there any solution for this?
[10:06] <ogra> dorf, urgh ... yes, wait til the 100s of pyton packages have been ported in the archive ... you really can't just replace the system pyton with a never version ...
[10:07] <ogra> *python
[10:07]  * ogra glares at his "h" key
[10:08] <dorf> damn, is there any solution im missing to make python3 be python3.11 for users including root without it having to be the system default then_
[10:09] <dorf> users forgets to write python3.11 apparently, was trying to solve it
[10:09] <DocMors> dorf, how about addressing the underlaing issue instead of taking a swing at the OS?
[10:10] <dorf> underlying issue is a people problem. I have given up on solving that problem many years ago
[10:10] <DocMors> what exactly is the problem?
[10:10] <ogra> you can surely install another python alongside, but not easily the system one since there are package interdependencies etc and things will break
[10:11] <ogra> *not easily replace the system one
[10:11] <DocMors> sure he can, every python developer has multiple envs on his machine
[10:11] <dorf> we are switching to python3.11, but people keep using python3 and pip3 to install packages and run stuff, leading to them having issues and contacting me
[10:12] <ogra> you could try fiddling with shell aliases or some such ...
[10:12] <DocMors> well have you informed the manufacturer of yopur OS of this ?
[10:12] <DocMors> check out https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/venv.html
[10:13] <vinay[m]> Does ubuntu has a separate VCS like
[10:13] <vinay[m]> salsa.debian.orb
[10:13] <vinay[m]> salsa.debian.org*
[10:13] <dorf> it's probably related to bad usage of venv
[10:28] <ogra> vinay[m], launchpad.net
[10:37] <vinay[m]> ogra: couldn't login to launchpad.net
[10:37] <vinay[m]> "Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[10:37] <vinay[m]> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience."
[10:38] <ogra> vinay[m], there is #launchpad here on libera ...
[10:39] <vinay[m]> i have posted my query there
[10:39] <vinay[m]> thanks :)
[10:39] <ogra> 🙂
[11:25] <DocMors> when you install mailutils for the first time it opens a config window, does anyone know how to start this? I tried unstalling/purging mailtuils and reinstalling but it's not coming up again
[11:26] <EriC^> DocMors: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure mailutils' ?
[11:27] <DocMors> tried that but no joy
[11:27] <EriC^> maybe it was the configuration of another package it pulled in
[11:28] <EriC^> see in /var/log/apt/history.log what was installed next to it the first time
[11:28] <DocMors> nice idea
[11:30] <DocMors> EriC^, postfix it was :) thanks!
[11:31] <EriC^> DocMors: no problem
[12:28] <vicky__> Hi, does Germinate work in debian?
[12:30] <cousin_luigi> Greetings
[12:30] <cousin_luigi> How to upgrade from lts to lts? Do I need to pass through all the intermediate releases?
[12:30] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, Hi. not required.
[12:31] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, you can set to receive only LTS updates and you will skip intermediates
[12:36] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: Do I replace the sources and run apt dist-upgrade or is there a more clever way? I haven't used ubuntu in a few years.
[12:36] <Phalanxer> So there is a bug in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS that prevents Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS hotspotting with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, so I created a new virtual machine with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, only to find the bug persists...
[12:37] <Phalanxer> I checked the system log and can see Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS keeps trying to connect. The system log says 'AP-STA-POSSIBLE-PSK-MISMATCH'.
[12:37] <Phalanxer> Ubuntu Server 22.04 connects to my Android 11 hotspot, fine.
[12:37] <Phalanxer> Does anyone know what's going on?
[12:38] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, what version you are running? Dont tell me it is ubuntu 9    8-)
[12:39] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: no, it's 20.04
[12:39] <cousin_luigi> old VM I'm trying to update. I suppose doing it the debian way would also work
[12:39] <Phalanxer> A weakness in Ubuntu is that the hotspot features sucks, badly. You only get the options to set the name of the SSID and the password, nothing else. The problem looks like it has something to do with encryption. I read somewhere that setting the hotspot to use WPA2 and not WPA3 is a work around, but that's not possible.
[12:40] <Phalanxer> At least officially.
[12:40] <cousin_luigi> Phalanxer: If it's of any consolation, getting WPA3 to work is also a $FEMALE_CANID on other distros.
[12:40] <Phalanxer> Does anyone know where the file that stores hotspot information is located? Perhaps I can hack it to use WPA2.
[12:40] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, you can normally go from one LTS to the next LTS when the point releasee is launched. So in this case 20.04 towards 22.04.1.
[12:41] <Phalanxer> cousin_luigi you what?
[12:41] <ogra> cousin_luigi, you want "sudo do-release-upgrade" or simply use the update manager in the GUI
[12:41] <ogra> make sure the system is up to date before doing that
[12:41] <cousin_luigi> ogra: Doing the latter rn.
[12:41] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, and make sure you bkp your data first.
[12:42] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: No important data in this vm
[12:42] <ogra> yeah, backups are a general thing you should do anyway ... but especially on updates indeed
[12:43] <cousin_luigi> This update is slow as molasses, I wonder why.
[12:44] <Phalanxer> Oh okay. Thanks everyone.
[12:44] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, So what is acctually your challenge? update is failling? update-manager can do the trick, quite well.
[12:46] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: bringing up to date 20.04. I haven't started the dist upgrade yet.
[12:46] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, check this file.... what is the value for the variable prompt? /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[12:46] <cousin_luigi> It has been stuck on updateing kernel packages for a few minutes.
[12:47] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, if you set the Prompt=lts   then you will only receive LTS updates.
[12:47] <ogra> it is generating a new initramdisk and such usually ... that will likely take a while (depening on the power of the machine) ... and indeed it needs to download all the new packages
[12:47] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, when you run do-release-upgrade
[12:47] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: Yeah, it's lts
[12:47] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, you can do via GUI or terminal, if you like.
[12:48] <cousin_luigi> ogra: I think I should add a few cpus to this vm lest I grow old waiting.
[12:48] <cybercrypto> 8-)
[12:48] <Phalanxer> Fuck the open source community is full of shit 'people on hand to help'. What a fucking load of shit. Back to Windows.
[12:48] <cousin_luigi> What a nice fellow.
[12:48] <ogra> well, disk I/O might also be a non-neglectable factor
[12:49] <cousin_luigi> I wonder if there might be some dkms module too. I forget.
[12:49] <cousin_luigi> oh vbox stuff. Right.
[12:49] <ogra> well, if that person sticks to their promises they wont come back at least and talk to microsoft support instead 😛
[12:49] <cybercrypto> he is free to go use any software works for him.
[12:50] <cybercrypto> 8-)
[12:50] <cousin_luigi> To be honest, people on #windows are quite supportive. Just don't mention dual boot.
[12:50] <FKAShinobi> I have a Dell BIOS update that require MS Windows or MS DOS to install (exe file). Awesome! FreeDOS is "mostly" MS DOS compatible (whatever that means). Is there anything else out there that is 100% MS DOS compatible? Or is MS DOS now in the public domain?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | FKAShinobi
[12:51] <Habbie> FKAShinobi, does dell not ship it as an EFI binary too? and is your dell not supported in fwupdmgr?
[12:51] <ogra> yeah, i would have suggested to check fwupd first too ...
[12:52] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, when you vm finishing processing, you can apt update / apt upgrade and "do-release-update".
[12:52] <cousin_luigi> I've never had problems with freedos tbh
[12:52] <cousin_luigi> But that was some time ago.
[12:54] <ogra> FKAShinobi, see if "fwupdmgr get-devices" knows about your BIOS ... perhaps there is an update for it
[12:55] <ogra> (look at the "device flags", it should say "Updateable")
[12:55] <Habbie> note that that flag does not guarantee that the vendor also ships updates this way
[12:56] <ogra> indeed
[12:56] <ogra> but it tells you if fwupd could update it in general
[12:57] <ogra> "fwupdmgr get-updates" lists available updates FWIW
[12:59] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychje ubottu Habbie ogra:It's an old Dell XT2 circa (2010). It is BIOS I believe.
[12:59] <ogra> well, what do the above commands tell you
[13:00] <esv> hello folks, is there a command to restore the original owner and permissions of the installed packages on a server, other than restore from backup - asking for a friend. :)
[13:01] <esv> someone did chown -R mongodb:mongodb / && chmod -R 777 /
[13:03] <cybercrypto> esv, short answer: no.  bkp will save your friend.
[13:04] <esv> thnx
[13:14] <FKAShinobi> ogra: fwupdmgr does not seem to support the BIOS, only the hdd.
[13:14] <ogra> FKAShinobi, ah, well, then you are stuck with freedos i fear
[13:16] <FKAShinobi> Has anyone used freedos to update bios? Just wondering how likely bricking this thing is. I would think it would be ok, but I have no experience with freedos.
[13:19] <cybercrypto> FKAShinobi, i did once, long ago.   PC booted normally and BIOS had a feature to point to bios file... I guess this facilitates the way.... No issues.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:10] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: Bah, is it normal for the upgrade to take an hour and a half?
[14:10] <cousin_luigi> using the gui tool
[14:11] <yolo> ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6|default.disable_ipv6|lo.disable_ipv6 are all set to 1, even enp3s0.disable_ipv6 is set to 1, but every reboot it will reset my NIC epn3s0.disable_ipv6=0, where can I change that?
[14:11] <yolo> i.e. sysctl.conf's settings are modified by the system
[14:17] <cybercrypto> cousin_luigi, I have no answer for that. It depends on your hardware. My old 2 threads amd 1.6hgz with spin disks took 5 hours and went flawless.
[14:18] <cousin_luigi> cybercrypto: This vm is probably not on ssd, but still it looks slow.
[14:18] <cousin_luigi> Only for installing, the download is long done.
[14:25] <yolo> I just enabled ipv6 and it worked well, that will be it
[14:32] <ogra> cousin_luigi, https://status.canonical.com/ looks fine, perhaps whatever mirror is default in your VM is slow
[14:32] <cousin_luigi> ogra: The download is done.
[14:32] <cousin_luigi> It's everything else that's slow.
[14:32] <ogra> ah, that is IO/CPU then
[14:33] <Phalanxer> If I purge NetworkManager in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, will netplan kick in as the network manager?
[14:34] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: why would you do that?
[14:34] <Phalanxer> leftyfb I find NetworkManager sucks.
[14:34] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: in what way?
[14:35] <cousin_luigi> Phalanxer: Do you run that on Windows?
[14:35] <leftyfb> cousin_luigi: lets not
[14:36] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: what issues are you having with NM? Maybe someone here can help you with that.
[14:36] <ogra> Phalanxer, it wouldnt "kick in" transparently, you'd have to configure it
[14:36] <Phalanxer> leftyfb 1) It has a bug in it preventing Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS connecting to the hotspot. 2) One is unable to set anything other than the SSID and password when setting up a hotspot.
[14:36] <ogra> much like you had to configure /etc/network/interfaces in the past when removing NM
[14:36] <Phalanxer> cousin_luigi no, I run it on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS.
[14:37] <ogra> (though netplan is clearly easier to configure than /e/n/i if it comes to WLAN)
[14:37] <Phalanxer> cousin_luigi even Windows 10 is broken.
[14:38] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: Ubuntu desktop was never meant to rival enterprise or even pro-sumer AP's. What features do you need in a hotspot on your PC that you can't configure with NM? Why do you need Ubuntu Desktop running on a system meant to run as a hotspot?
[14:39] <Phalanxer> I read changing the encryption from WPA to no encryption is the only way to get it working, so NetworkManager needs to be replaced.
[14:39] <Phalanxer> leftyfb my cheapo Motorola phone running Android 11 was never meant to rival enterprise AP's either, bit it still gives me the options I need.
[14:39] <ogra> Phalanxer, i dont think so ... you can clearly create NM hotspots with WPA
[14:40] <cousin_luigi> The problem is apparently with wpa3
[14:40] <ogra> (NM even ships a pyton example for that ... i re-use it in a snap package here: https://snapcraft.io/nm-wifi-hotspot ... https://github.com/ogra1/nm-wifi-hotspot-snap)
[14:40] <ogra> *python
[14:43] <Phalanxer> ogra where do you see the option to change the encryption? I only see this: https://i.ibb.co/SXhYkTD/Untitled.png
[14:43] <Phalanxer> cousin_luigi perhaps, yes.
[14:43] <ogra>  nmcli connection modify Your-Hotspot 802-11-wireless-security.key-mgmt sae
[14:44] <ogra> something like that should work (after you brought up the initial setup of the hotspot)
[14:44] <Phalanxer> Hey?
[14:44] <Phalanxer> Oh
[14:44] <ogra> (i wasnt aware you needed WPA3 only ... missed that above)
[14:45] <Phalanxer> I already tried doing that, reloaded the profile, and even NetworkManager service, it gets reverted back to the former setting.
[14:45] <ogra> i also dont know the python variant of the above in case you want to write/adapt the ap example ... but i'm sure you can adapt that
[14:46] <Phalanxer> I just need a decent network manager. I tried installing a few such as Budgie and Plasma's network manager, but they didn't come up in the applications menu.
[14:46] <ogra> ??
[14:46] <Phalanxer> Well I haven't seem them, but I hope they are decent.
[14:46] <ogra> ubuntu budgie and plasma all use the same ubuntu arcive
[14:46] <ogra> *archive
[14:47] <Phalanxer> I know, I installed them from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS's source.
[14:47] <ogra> (so all the same NM package)
[14:47] <Phalanxer> repository
[14:47] <ogra> n top of a non-22.04 ?
[14:47] <ogra> *on
[14:47] <Phalanxer> What do you mean?
[14:47] <Phalanxer> I am using 22.04 LTS.
[14:47] <ogra> ah
[14:48] <ogra> "source" got me confused 🙂
[14:48] <Phalanxer> Sorry
[14:48] <Phalanxer> My bad
[14:48] <Phalanxer> I meant respository.
[14:48] <ogra> (you meant the archive)
[14:48] <ogra> yeah, got that now 🙂
[14:48] <Phalanxer> Perhaps the developers didn't create shortcuts for GMOME.
[14:49] <Phalanxer> My fear though is they are front-ends for NetworkManager. That's why I asked about netplan.
[14:49] <ogra> well, either way, it *should* work, though even NM still integrates with wpa-supplicant in the back ... might be some limitatioon there, not sure
[14:49] <Phalanxer> Its a bug in NetworkManager. Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS connects to my Android 11 hotspot fine.
[14:50] <ogra> theoretically it should just work through nmcli or nmtui though
[14:50] <Phalanxer> So I connecting both my PC and Rasperry Pi (running Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS) and chewed through almost all of my mobile phone data allowance.
[14:51] <Phalanxer> ... connected them both to my phone, and use the phone as a bridge to connect to my Pi from my PC.
[14:51] <Phalanxer> Stupid
[14:51] <ogra> Phalanxer, https://askubuntu.com/a/1290590 perhaps ?
[14:51] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> .config/VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml', line 1 (0), column 1.
[14:52] <ogra> seems it works for others ...
[14:52] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> what do You do if somebody comes to Your computer and corrupts a file
[14:52] <Phalanxer> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS doesn't give an option to change the encryption protocol.: https://i.ibb.co/SXhYkTD/Untitled.png
[14:52] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> for virtualbox
[14:52] <leftyfb> FCKAUDIOWNERS: discontinue access for that user. This is beyond the scope of this channel though
[14:52] <Phalanxer> ogra, no there is posts all over the internet about this bug.
[14:52] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> it's a physical access and threat
[14:53] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> can I reinstall virtualbox easily
[14:53] <ogra> Phalanxer, well, the askubuntu seems to indicate people have working WPA3
[14:53] <leftyfb> FCKAUDIOWNERS: sure
[14:53] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> I did but I got the problem with configuration file
[14:53] <Phalanxer> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1421954/ubuntu-raspberry-pi-3b-cannot-connect-to-ubuntu-20-04-hotspot-on-laptop
[14:54] <Phalanxer> ogra I can only go by what I see.: https://i.ibb.co/SXhYkTD/Untitled.png
[14:54] <ogra> Phalanxer, i'm not talking about any GUI frontends
[14:54] <ogra> also note the last post in that askubuntu post has a netplan config
[14:54] <Phalanxer> I tried changing the backend like you said. It didn't work. NetworkManager changed it back when I started the hotspot.
[14:54] <ogra> (ot for AP mode though)
[14:55] <ogra> *not
[14:55] <Phalanxer> Yeah, I need AP.
[14:55] <Phalanxer> Raspberry Pi is headless.
[14:55] <ogra> right, but it should work with nmcli or nmtui from cmdline
[14:55] <Phalanxer> I have no way of getting into it with wires.
[14:56] <Phalanxer> I used nmcli
[14:56] <Phalanxer> nmcli connection reload
[14:56] <Phalanxer> I executed that after changing the hotspot file in '/etc/NetworkManager/'.
[14:56] <Phalanxer> I then restarted the service.
[14:57] <Phalanxer> I changed it to 'sae' which is for WPA3.
[14:57] <Phalanxer> The setting reverted itself.
[14:57] <Phalanxer> NetworkManager is cooked.
[14:57] <ogra> yeah, but that might b because you edited the backend file manually
[14:57] <andreact> Hi
[14:57] <Phalanxer> The man page gives instruction for changing it manually.
[14:57] <ogra> using nmcli should have made it persistent thogh
[14:57] <Phalanxer> ogra but you could be right.
[14:57] <andreact> is this a livechat to ask for help?
[14:57] <Phalanxer> I will try your command now......
[14:58] <ogra> andreact, see /topic 🙂
[14:59] <andreact> I did a dual boot of ubuntu in order to use a program for my thesis but for some reason its not playing sound... I've tried so many things but still unsuccessful... im using Ubuntu 22.04.01
[15:00] <andreact> I don't know what to do anymore...
[15:00] <cousin_luigi> Phalanxer: I would try wpa2 if the above fails. At least you'd know where the problem might lie.
[15:00] <eyax> what did you try andreact
[15:00] <Phalanxer> nmcli connection modify 'General purpose' 802-11-wireless-security.key-mgmt sae
[15:00] <Phalanxer> 'Unknown connection'
[15:01] <Phalanxer> Perhaps it does not like the space in the name.
[15:01] <ogra> try double quotes
[15:01] <Phalanxer> cousin_luigi its set to WPA2 by default.
[15:02] <Phalanxer> cousin_luigi WPA3 with WPA2 fall back
[15:02] <Phalanxer> man page does not give option for just WPA2.
[15:02] <eyax> andreact, you could use bluetooth if you need it bad enough or buy a sound usb dongle too
[15:02] <Phalanxer> Double quotes did not work.
[15:03] <andreact> i might have to. it says unplugged on my pulseaudio for some reason... I might just use bluetooth though
[15:03] <Phalanxer> '' '''' and ""
[15:03] <andreact> i messaged u privately eyax
[15:04] <eyax> ok thats about all i thought of andreact
[15:04] <Phalanxer> And my Windows 10 is screwed. The virtual Hotspot in device manager is missing, so I can't start a hotspot.
[15:04] <andreact> thank you eyax!!
[15:04] <Phalanxer> My cortisol levels are so high right now.
[15:05] <eyax> yw
[15:06] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> windows 7 is screwed windows 10 is screwed and overall , You license over work that's particially invalid to own
[15:06] <ogra> Phalanxer, probably time for a walk 🙂
[15:06] <Phalanxer> FCKAUDIOWNERS LMFAO!
[15:06] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> microsoft takes references from real life
[15:06] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> who spy's
[15:06] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> ?
[15:06] <Phalanxer> ogra I'm considering FreeBSD but I'll probably shoot myself.
[15:06] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> facebook even could not do it
[15:07] <ravage> !ot | FCKAUDIOWNERS
[15:07] <Phalanxer> A walk is a great idea. I'm sweating a bit over this, for real.
[15:07] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> yall linux folks who does not have to work with that are so happy
[15:07] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> bet generally
[15:07] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> we are on a wait
[15:07] <Phalanxer> FCKAUDIOWNERS I feel you, but your gonna get kicked mate
[15:07] <FCKAUDIOWNERS> to be some rockstar kids
[15:08] <Phalanxer> go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <Phalanxer> I'm in there and interested in hearing your ran. Speak to you there.
[15:08] <Phalanxer> rant
[15:09] <Phalanxer> So, I'm now wanting to work with netplan.
[15:09] <Phalanxer> I'm now going to disable the NetworkManager service.
[15:11] <Phalanxer> The NetworkManager service in my Ubuntu 22.04 LTS now been stopped. I will read the man page for netplan and if I have any trouble then I'll be back. :)
[15:13] <ogra> google finds: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1222278/detailed-how-to-or-example-needed-to-setup-an-access-point-using-netplan
[15:14] <Phalanxer> Thanks ogra
[15:15] <ogra> tell us if it works ... i have never seen someone use netplan for running an AP yet 🙂
[15:25] <Phalanxer> netplan's man page has conflicting information. It says netman can work without NetworkManager in the introduction, but then it has a 'renderer' parameter for either networkd or NetworkManager. I'm confused.
[15:25] <Phalanxer> The man page doesn't specify if these parameters are required.
[15:25] <Phalanxer> God, why hasn't Canonical created a front-end for this!
[15:26] <Phalanxer> "dhcp4 (bool)" What the hell does that mean? 'dhcp4 1'?
[15:27] <Phalanxer> There is a tonne of parameters. I'm guessing they are not all required.
[15:27] <leftyfb> !netplan | Phalanxer
[15:28] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: bool is true or false
[15:28] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: you either set NM or networkd as your renderer
[15:28] <cousin_luigi> Ok, everything appears to be working. I have another question now: is pxe netboot supported on ubuntu?
[15:28] <Phalanxer> leftyfb got it. Thanks.
[15:28] <cousin_luigi> I found some guides, but they're somewhat old and the files mentioned there don't appear to be available anymore.
[15:30] <Phalanxer> No man page or package for 'networkd'?
[15:30] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: why do you need the package name for it?
[15:30] <ogra> Phalanxer, netplan is a config frontend, nothing more ... it can use two backends ... systemd-networkd or NM ... in this case it uses NM
[15:30] <Phalanxer> leftyfb I was checking if it is installed.
[15:30] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: it is
[15:30] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: it's systemd-networkd
[15:31] <Phalanxer> Ah yeah, I did read that. Thanks. Expert.
[15:32] <Phalanxer> Does systemd have a graphical interface?
[15:32] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: for what?
[15:32] <Phalanxer> leftyfb me to use.
[15:32] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: to do what?
[15:32] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: systemd does a LOT
[15:32] <Phalanxer> leftyfb setup my hotspot.
[15:32] <Phalanxer> leftyfb it doesn't do what I need.
[15:33]  * leftyfb sigh
[15:33]  * mrkubax10 sighs too
[15:33] <Phalanxer> same here
[15:33] <Phalanxer> I sigh
[15:33] <Phalanxer> No, I shake my head
[15:33] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: Can I ask why you need a desktop UI on a system that is being used as a hotspot?
[15:34] <Phalanxer> leftyfb I find working on 1969 designed interface horrible.
[15:34] <leftyfb> I'm out
[15:35] <Phalanxer> So I'm guessing networkd is command line only. I'll keep working on netplan, then get on to networkd.
[15:35] <Phalanxer> :)
[15:36] <Phalanxer> Geez I only want to setup a hotspot.
[15:40] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: https://snapcraft.io/install/nm-wifi-hotspot/ubuntu
[15:40] <ogra> LOL
[15:40] <Chunkyz> Thought you was out leftyfb
[15:40] <ogra> we've been there 🙂
[15:40] <Chunkyz> :-)
[15:41] <ogra> (it doesnt support WPA3)
[15:41] <Phalanxer> leftyfb I am challenging myself to doing it the 1969 way, but I will install that package you suggested out of respect for my health.
[15:44] <ogra> Phalanxer, dont bother ... thats the one i linked before (and since i packaged it, i'm 100% sure it does not support WPA3 because i did not implement it in the snap package)
[15:47] <Phalanxer> ogra I don't need WPA3.
[15:47] <Phalanxer> ogra I don't think.
[15:47] <Phalanxer> Lets just try it and see what happens.
[15:48] <Phalanxer> Otherwise I'm gonna be up all night reading Unixy pages just so I can make a Wi-Fi hotspot. True story.
[15:49] <Phalanxer> Thanks, Oliver.
[15:51] <Phalanxer> Okay, nm-wifi-hotspot has been installed. I do not see it in the applications menu.
[15:52] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: https://github.com/ogra1/nm-wifi-hotspot-snap
[15:58] <Phalanxer> 'snap connect nm-wifi-hotspot:network-manager network-manager' ""error: snap "nm-wifi-hotspot" has no plug named "network-manager""
[15:59] <toddc> I have had the same problem and to me helped this.
[15:59] <toddc> Click show applications, then utilities, then advanced network configuration. Double click on Hotspot. Click table General and make sure there is tick on Connect automatically with priority and set value -999. Then save and restart.
[15:59] <toddc> mode hotspot
[16:00] <Phalanxer> Restart what?
[16:00] <toddc> network manager or the computer
[16:01] <toddc> they just hid it a bit on 22.04
[16:02] <Phalanxer> I've burnt out.
[16:02] <Phalanxer> Thanks everyone
[16:03] <Phalanxer> ogra, even when changing the encryption with this tool, it still reverts back.
[16:04] <Phalanxer> This has been an insightful experience.
[16:05] <ogra> Phalanxer, well, the nm-wifi-hotspot really uses the network-manager snap package, not the deb yu have installed ... not even sure that works well on ubuntu-server ...
[16:06] <ogra> (this has been created for UbuntuCore (the all-snap based distro)
[16:07] <Phalanxer> network-manager snap is just s front-end. The problem is in NetworkManager itself.
[16:07] <Phalanxer> I suspected this would happen but it was easy to try and prey.
[16:09] <Phalanxer> Does anyone know how to search man pages?
[16:11] <faLUKE> hello, will apt-get install work for ubuntu18.04 after april 2023 ?
[16:11] <Phalanxer> And can somebody please tell me what the word 'scalar' means.
[16:15] <Phalanxer> faLUKE if you pay I would think. Perhaps non-maintained packages will hang around for a while.
[16:16] <Phalanxer> Ubuntu One
[16:16] <Phalanxer> Or Ubuntu Advantage
[16:16] <Phalanxer> Look into it.
[16:17] <ogra> Phalanxer, th network-manager snap is a full network-manager (only the cmdline part) to be used on IoT devices...
[16:20] <Phalanxer> ogra, can it be used with NetworkManager disabled?
[16:21] <Phalanxer> ogra this is why you've never seen someone create an access point with netplan.: https://i.ibb.co/x7WhvHT/Untitled.png
[16:21] <ogra> Phalanxer, you could try to remove the NM deb and install the snap but thats risky territory since the snap is not really designed for that
[16:21] <ogra> and surely non of the UIs will work with it since it is designed for headless use in IoT
[16:22] <Phalanxer> I installed the snap but could not find the app in the applications menu.
[16:22] <ogra> it is replacing the network-manager deb  ... and has no GUI parts at all
[16:23] <ogra> nor does it allow any of the GUI tools to work with it
[16:23] <ogra> (network-manager by itself has no GUI parts ... it is just a backend)
[16:24] <Phalanxer> I've burnt out. networkd is also command line only. I've been reading for hours and starting to have a third person view of myself and what I am doing with my life, and its alarming.
[16:27] <dsc_> Phalanxer: :D
[16:44] <Phalanxer> I went for a walk and now I am going to try and fix my hotspot issue in Windows 10. I'm sure it will be just as bad
[16:44] <Phalanxer> Bye
[17:03] <five6184> Hello. My system (Raspberry Pi 4) just crashed, and `journalctl --list-boots` returns only one single entry. Running `journalctl --verify` passes all files, but one states `1981f00: Unused data (entry_offset==0)`. How could I fix this and get back my previous boot logs? Thanks!
[17:07] <Elliria> Is this of any use? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/580675/what-to-do-when-journalctl-verify-outputs-unused-data
[17:08] <five6184> But from that article: I can safely ignore those? "Yes.". Except, all my previous boot logs are missing
[17:09] <five6184> Before the crash I had over 20 past boot logs
[17:10] <Elliria> Oddly, I'm getting very few results on my Google search on this.
[17:10] <Elliria> I searched for: `Unused data (entry_offset==0)`
[17:10] <Elliria> That only gave me 9 results. Very strange.
[17:11] <five6184> I've been having very mysterious logging issues with this machine... I could never determine the source of the crash because boot logs would usually be missing for the previous boot
[17:11] <five6184> But before I at least had the boots prior to that
[17:11] <Elliria> What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:12] <five6184> 22.04.1, latest updates
[17:12] <five6184> kernel 5.15.0-1023-raspi
[17:12] <Phalanxer> Ok
[17:12] <jhutchins> five6184: The problem with boot logs is that they record the last successfully completed event.
[17:12] <Elliria> Ah, good catch.
[17:12] <jhutchins> five6184: With a linear process, you can figure out what the next step, the step that failed, is.
[17:13] <jhutchins> five6184: Unfortunately, the systemd boot process has a lot of parallel processes, so it's hard to see which one failed from the logs.
[17:14] <five6184> hmm, so I need logs for the services that provide logs?
[17:14] <five6184> strangely if I do `jounrnalctl` I see entries from as early as September
[17:15] <five6184> so the logs are there... just not the boot detection?
[17:15] <VIA> hi all
[17:15] <VIA> so im having these dualboot and som other issues
[17:16] <jhutchins> VIA: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:16] <VIA> but my main question is, is there any concern that windows messes up the drive with the linux install?#
[17:17] <VIA> cause everyone seems to be suggesting to install linux first then windows (which workded for me with  windows 7 on "unsupported hardware" i modified some drivers ...
[17:17] <leftyfb> VIA: if you reinstall or "repair" Windows, it could override GRUB being the primary boot loader on your machine
[17:17] <leftyfb> VIA: the opposite is true
[17:17] <leftyfb> install Windows, then linux
[17:17] <VIA> not i dont have the files right now, i do a "dirty windows 11! install
[17:17] <VIA> then xubuntu or something, then windows doesnt work anymore lol
[17:18] <VIA> i think last resort is i just have to do some screwing around remove the nvme of windows aftr install
[17:18] <VIA> then put the linnux on the other that should be 100% fine right
[17:18] <VIA> winndows is DIRTY  aaf
[17:19] <VIA> windoz11 criminal really. pushing ads into your face..
[17:19] <VIA> stealing your ressources
[17:19] <leftyfb> VIA: lets not
[17:19] <leftyfb> VIA: please keep the topic to ubuntu support
[17:20] <VIA> i was finished
[17:21] <VIA> but the install windows then linux somehow doesnt seem to work so greatly with newer "windows"
[17:21] <five6184> jhutchins: also in my logs, I get like 20 clumps of "boot id" where each one is a completely random log line
[17:22] <five6184> some of the log entries seem to be jumping around
[17:22] <five6184> i.e. I have my nginx logs, then dmesg boot logs, then nginx logs again, which is impossible
[17:22] <Phalanxer> How does one connect to a bluetooth device in Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS?
[17:23] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: I thought you were running Desktop
[17:23] <Phalanxer> leftyfb not on the computer I am enquiring for, though it does have LXFE installed on it.
[17:24] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: https://simpleit.rocks/linux/shell/connect-to-bluetooth-from-cli/
[17:24] <Phalanxer> Thank you
[17:24] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: 4th result on google for "ubuntu server connect bluetooth"
[17:25] <Phalanxer> Okay, when will this chat room be shutting down then now that it is redundant?
[17:27] <RaimondRaj> hai ubuntu
[17:28] <RaimondRaj> i need help
[17:28] <leftyfb> !ask | RaimondRaj
[17:29] <RaimondRaj> i run a server
[17:29] <RaimondRaj> currently i cont run unrealircd on vps but i cant connect on client
[17:29] <RaimondRaj> i dont where the problem is
[17:29] <RaimondRaj> went i ask help from unreal they said all ok
[17:30] <RaimondRaj> its might be linux / ubuntu problem
[17:30] <RaimondRaj> the problem start went i try to use this command (  sudo firewall-cmd --permanent --add-port=2023/tcp )
[17:30] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: check your firewall and any possible firewalls your VPS provider might have
[17:30] <RaimondRaj> please i dont know that
[17:30] <RaimondRaj> please guide me
[17:31] <RaimondRaj> stallmanator nick gave me went i ask help for the lounge
[17:31] <RaimondRaj> i dont why and what is happen
[17:33] <Elliria> RaimondRaj, firewall-cmd --list-ports should give you a list of all available ports (you might need to put sudo in front of it). Is port 2023 available?
[17:37] <RaimondRaj> no
[17:45] <Phalanxer> leftyfb: https://i.ibb.co/82Hwvsf/Untitled.png
[17:45] <snowkid> if i ls /proc | grep 979 i get nothing
[17:45] <snowkid> if I ls/proc/979 i get a directory
[17:45] <snowkid> why
[17:45] <snowkid> * a directory listing
[17:47] <Phalanxer> Does anyone know what's up with this? https://i.ibb.co/82Hwvsf/Untitled.png
[17:48] <snowkid> id look at the image if it didnt look like the site was from a dubious origin
[17:49] <Phalanxer> snowkid that's okay. When your knowledge of computers comes intermediate, you will not fear browsing the web so much. :)
[17:51] <snowkid> oh you can put in ligma
[17:51] <Phalanxer> Does anything actually work in Ubuntu?
[17:53] <cousin_luigi> No, they're all on strike.
[17:54] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: try it again with the device in pairing mode
[17:54] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: and please lose the attitude. We're all volunteers here
[17:55] <Phalanxer> Its not attitude. It is my experience.
[17:55] <Phalanxer> How do I put it in pairing mode? The developer forgot to write documentation on how to use it. https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/bluetoothctl.1.html
[17:55] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: the BT device, not ubuntu
[17:58] <Phalanxer> I tried before and I just stood next to the Raspberry Pi now for 1 minute but nothing is showing on my phone. Perhaps the Pi is in hidden mode, but my gut feeling tells me its not.
[17:59] <Phalanxer> But who knows with Raspberry Pi OS.
[17:59] <Phalanxer> Actually their impressively smart. I doubt it.
[17:59] <snowkid> lol im sitting here tweaking a rpi 4 and thinking how useless it would be on bluetooth, pity you cant afford something better
[17:59] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: you're mentioning Pi OS and your phone. In this case, where does Ubuntu come into play?
[18:00] <Phalanxer> snowkid I was given it free.
[18:00] <leftyfb> snowkid: please don't
[18:00] <snowkid> leftyfb im sorry the exchange is complete
[18:00] <Phalanxer> leftyfb the Pi is running Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS. I need to pair it with my phone to give it internet access.
[18:01] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: but you mentioned "But who knows with Raspberry Pi OS"
[18:01] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: if the Pi is running Ubuntu, where does Raspberry Pi OS come into play?
[18:01] <snowkid> the imager gives you options to select a systen raspbian uuntu or others
[18:01] <Phalanxer> leftyfb my bad.
[18:02] <snowkid> its set up on a microsd which is notoriously slow, a bluetooth conbection will likely timeout
[18:02] <snowkid> better off connecting an ethernet or getting a usb wifi adapter
[18:02] <leftyfb> snowkid: BT connections have almost nothing to do with the sd card
[18:03] <Phalanxer> snowkid I installed it initially. Then I had trouble connecting it to my Ubuntu hotspot, and I assume Raspberry Pi OS was the culprit. I then installed Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS thinking it would work. The problem ended up being a bug in NetworkManager on the hotspot.
[18:03] <leftyfb> snowkid: Pi's running multiple OS's are just fine for BT connections. They get used all the time in multiple industries and for thousands of projects by consumers every day
[18:03] <Phalanxer> snowkid there is no other way.
[18:03] <leftyfb> Phalanxer: Pi OS doesn't use Network Manager
[18:04] <snowkid> in my experience its not a great environment for anything reliable
[18:04] <Phalanxer> leftyfb the hotspot the Pi is connecting to is an Ubuntu machine which does use NetworkManager.
[18:04] <Phalanxer> snowkid the Pi suits my needs fine.
[18:05] <Phalanxer> snowkid I just need to get video acceleration working, which is what I am trying to do now- download the drivers onto it which Ubuntu Server lacks.
[18:06] <Phalanxer> leftyfb do you have a solution to this? https://i.ibb.co/82Hwvsf/Untitled.png
[18:06] <snowkid> which pi is it?
[18:06] <Phalanxer> snowkid Pi 4 8GB
[18:06] <snowkid> so you dont have an ethernet cable laying around
[18:06] <Phalanxer> snowkid no.
[18:07] <snowkid> yea sorry
[18:08] <Phalanxer> I will pair the Pi with the phone via bluetooth and my phone will share its internet connection to the Pi via its Wi-Fi to my home router.
[18:08] <snowkid> i understand but you may as well just hook up to your home router and get it working eh
[18:09] <Phalanxer> I don't know how
[18:09] <snowkid> all routers have ethernet cables
[18:09] <snowkid> jacks*
[18:09] <Phalanxer> There is no ethernet cable.
[18:09] <snowkid> it doesnt need a wifi password. it just works
[18:09] <snowkid> get one, steal it
[18:09] <snowkid> borrow it
[18:09] <Phalanxer> I need this Pi working in 45 minutes from now.
[18:09] <snowkid> well get a cable
[18:09] <Phalanxer> Itd 5:09 AM.
[18:10] <Phalanxer> What's the problem with Ubuntu now? Why is it saying the device is not available? https://i.ibb.co/82Hwvsf/Untitled.png
[18:10] <waveform> Phalanxer, the device you're trying to "trust" in bluetoothctl; does it appear inthe  "paired-devices" list?
[18:10] <Phalanxer> waveform yes. Its Moto... Motorola phone.
[18:11] <waveform> you run "paired-devices" and it shows up in that list?
[18:11] <Phalanxer> Yes. https://i.ibb.co/82Hwvsf/Untitled.png
[18:11] <Phalanxer> "moto g31"
[18:11] <Phalanxer> Then when I trust its hardware identifer, it says the device is not avaiable.
[18:11] <waveform> no ... that's the output of hcitool which is saying it can *see* that device, that doesn't mean it's paired. Within bluetoothctl, run "paired-devices" and see if the MAC appears in *that* output
[18:12] <Phalanxer> I scan right after and it finds it again.
[18:12] <waveform> if it doesn't then run "pair" with the MAC address in question
[18:12] <Phalanxer> Ok, I now need to disconnect from my router and hotspot into my phone so I can then contact my Pi. I will be back.
[18:15] <waveform> sorry, I have to go and have dinner, but tl;dr: "pair" should prompt (on both the device and in bluetoothctl) for you to proceed -- assuming the codes match obviously hit (or enter) "yes". Once it's paired and appears in the "paired-devices" output you should be able to run "trust" with the MAC address
[18:25] <Phalanxer> Sorry for the delayed return. My Wi-Fi adapter froze requiring a cold restart of the computer.
[18:26] <Phalanxer> waveform running 'paired-devices' from within 'bluetoothctl' returned nothing.
[18:27] <Phalanxer> Some weird device names are coming up on my phone when it scans. I'm wondering if its the Pi. How can I find out the device name of the Pi?
[18:28] <Phalanxer> 'bluetoothctl' is undocumented software.
[18:30] <Phalanxer> Trying this command 'bluetoothctl discoverable on'...
[18:38] <Phalanxer> Ok, so I made the Pi discoverable and tried to connect to it with my phone. 'bluetoothctl' asked me if I want to trust it, which I said yes. The Pi and my phone are now paired.
[18:38] <Phalanxer> I have set my phone to share its internet via bluetooth but the Pi running Ubuntu Server 22.04 LTS is not using the internet connection.
[18:39] <chromebittin> why not share it via wifi instead and just connect via nmcli
[18:39] <Phalanxer> Too risky. I am headless. If I lock myself out I am gone
[18:40] <Phalanxer> The phone can't use WiFi in hotspot mode.
[18:40] <Phalanxer> Can't connect to home router out of risk of getting locked out if something goes wrong.
[18:40] <Phalanxer> Run out of mobile data allowance.
[18:41] <Phalanxer> LOL just realised I had Wi-Fi off on my phone. Connecting back to the Pi. BRB.
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> Phalanxer: please dont use this channel to describe every step you take
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> Phalanxer: rather ask your question and wait until volunteers pickup on your issue
[18:44] <Phalanxer91> I am such an idiot. What I want to do can't even be done.
[18:44] <Phalanxer91> waveform
[18:44] <Phalanxer91> Are you running Ubuntu on your Pi?
[18:47] <Phalanxer91> All I need to do is install the package needed to get the 3D accelerator working.
[18:48] <Phalanxer91> I think I've found it but there is dependency hell.
[18:48] <Phalanxer91> Hence why I am trying to get the Pi an internet connection.
[18:49] <Phalanxer91> BRB trying an experiment
[18:49] <Phalanxer91> If this works, I am a legend!
[18:49] <Angs> when I right click on nautilus and select "open in terminal", how can I start terminator instead of gnome-terminal?
[18:49] <Angs> I am using ubuntu 22.04
[18:56] <esanghyun> what is this
[18:57] <Phalanxer> It didn't work. Ubuntu simply is not receiving the shared internet over bluetooth and I don't know why.
[18:58] <Phalanxer> so ive spent the whole night on this, and i simply cant hotspot to an ubuntu computer because ubuntu was not tested
[18:59] <Phalanxer> Anyway
[18:59] <Phalanxer> I'm cooked.
[19:01] <Phalanxer> 'Linux is better than Windows'....... Lol yeah.. please......
[20:54] <henistein> I am trying to build glibc from scratch. I installed the source, then created a build directory and run make install, what should I do now?
[20:55] <sarnold> whatever it is you wanted to do with a compiled-from-scratch glibc
[20:55] <sarnold> I suggest disabling the apt auto updates and so on, uninstall apt sources, etc
[20:55] <sarnold> then start reading the linux from scratch documentation, so you can figure out how to replace everything on the system, too
[20:57] <henistein> ok nvm then, I was doing that because some programs seg faults, and when I gdb the program it always points to some glibc file
[20:58] <sarnold> that usually means whoever wrote the program didn't know how to use strcpy or sprintf or memcpy correctly and wrote a buggy program
[20:58] <sarnold> you're .. in for a tough time. *maybe* you can apt install --reinstall libc6  or something like that, but honestly a reinstall from scratch wouldn't be a bad idea
[20:58] <henistein> that guy was me, the problem is that the code is right, and works on my ubuntu 20.04 machine
[20:58] <henistein> but the same code seg faults on my 22.04 machine
[20:58] <sarnold> try valgrind?
[21:01] <knusbaum> The code is almost certainly *not* right. The fact it works in one place doesn't mean it's right. If you're writing C, it's notorious for those kinds of bugs.
[21:01] <henistein> When I run `valgrind --leak-check=yes --log-file=valgrind.rpt ./a.out` it seg faults
[21:02] <knusbaum> Try a debugger then
[21:02] <henistein> the seg fault is here: `at 0x48F2150: __vfprintf_internal (vfprintf-internal.c:1244)`
[21:02] <pedahzur> I installed 22.04 server under qemu/libvirt. Full disk encryption (except for /boot). Install went fine. Rebooted, logged in, worked fine. Shut down, started it back up, and it hangs at "Booting from hard disk..." with the VM taking 100% CPU.  Tried googling a bit, nothing useful. Ideas?
[21:03] <knusbaum> henistein, I would either get a backtrace, or try and guess where in your code this is getting called from. i.e. where are you calling vfprintf or family from?
[21:16] <henistein37> This simple assembly code seg faults on my 22.04, but not on my 20.04: https://bpa.st/L6TBC
[21:17] <henistein37> and the problem is in vfprintf-internal.c
[21:17] <henistein37> I run the code with: gcc -g -no-pie main.s
[21:17] <sarnold> paste the source?
[21:17] <sarnold> oh, this *is* the source, not godbolt output, hah
[21:18] <henistein37> I wrote that by hand
[21:20] <pedahzur> Aggh...PEBKAC...I was booting the wrong VM. Siiiigh.
[21:21] <henistein37> does it seg fault on your machines?
[21:25] <sarnold> henistein37: yeah, it runs fine on 20.04, segfaults on 22.04. you've got an interesting problem here :)
[21:25] <henistein37> sarnold what should I do now?
[21:25] <knusbaum> debug
[21:26] <knusbaum> with a debugger, that is.
[21:26] <sarnold> hah, I reached for gdb and promptly realized i don't know how to drive it real well
[21:27] <sarnold> https://termbin.com/s8sl
[21:27] <sarnold> I thought 22.04 was supposed to on-demand load debug stuff
[21:28] <henistein37> hmm interesting
[21:29] <henistein37> Can I downgrade my ubuntu from 22.04 to 20.04?
[21:29] <knusbaum> AHA!
[21:29] <knusbaum> henistein37, I think I figured out your issue, henistein37
[21:30] <henistein37> knusbaum, tell me pls =D
[21:31] <knusbaum> Well, I found something interesting anyway.
[21:31] <knusbaum> for me, the thing segfaults at this jump: https://bpa.st/P7KOW
[21:33] <knusbaum> Nope, made a mistake. Nevermind.
[21:34] <sarnold> henistein37: you can sometimes downgrade individual packages without trouble, but downgrading all of them is probably too much trouble
[21:36] <henistein37> sarnold can I downgrade just the glibc?
[21:38] <sarnold> henistein37: I wouldn't be surprised if some application has used symbols from the newer version
[21:39] <henistein37> I have a big trouble xD
[21:40] <knusbaum> I'm suspicious that this is a varargs ABI issue.
[21:42] <sarnold> omg I can't figure out how on earth to drive godbolt
[21:42] <sarnold> this used to be so much easier
[21:46] <sarnold> https://godbolt.org/z/1esb1b6cb  FINALLY I got two gccs side by side ..
[21:46] <sarnold> gcc sure sets up a lot more registers
[21:54] <aum> hi - got a strange apt conflict - when I try to install audio/music packages such as librtaudio-dev, libmidi-dev and libjack-dev, apt wants to remove qjackctl, jackd and jackd2. But I need these 3 dev packages so I can build the 'giada' music app (which needs them, and also needs jackd)
[21:56] <androirc99> omg i just dual booted
[21:56]  * androirc99 salivates
[21:57] <arraybolt3> \o/
[21:57] <sarnold> aum: you might be able to get a more specific message from apt if you run sudo apt install librtaudio-dev libmidi-dev libjack-dev qjackctl jackd2
[21:58] <androirc99> anything that lets you ummm... rotate from landscape to portrait on a tablet?
[21:58] <androirc99> automatically
[21:59] <androirc99> i know gnome did it but not anymore
[21:59] <aum> sarnold, thanks, trying now
[21:59] <sarnold> androirc99: maybe search for "auto rotate" on https://extensions.gnome.org/#  ?
[21:59] <sarnold> androirc99: gnome extensions can crash things pretty badly if they don't work correctly, it might be worth learning how to back out gnomne extensions from the command line before enabling one
[22:02] <aum> sarnold: strangely, that seems to have worked - apt tolerates all those packages in the one command and doesn't seek to remove anything - weird
[22:02] <sarnold> aum: very weird :)
[22:03] <sarnold> aum: what's a slight change is that I left off 'jack' because that just looks like it drags in jack1 *or* jack2 ..
[22:03] <androirc99> sarnold i recall writing a script for doing it
[22:04] <thymage> Does anybody know how to get algorithmic integration in OCaml?
[22:04] <androirc99> still surprised that feature isnt added by default, maybe its buggy
[22:05] <androirc99> but hats off to ubuntu for dus
[22:05] <sarnold> androirc99: yeah it feels like an obvious feature to me, but gnome folks do seem to love removing features..
[22:05] <androirc99> dual booting windows so well
[22:06] <androirc99> i see
[22:06] <henistein> sarnold what should I do? xD
[22:07] <androirc99> kind of like color saturation
[22:07] <androirc99> It needs an option like that as well
[22:08] <sarnold> henistein: no idea! :) a few guesses: (a) head to stack overflow, hope for the best, hehe (b) try matching the gcc-generated zereod registers, etc, and see if you 'just' need to zero a specific register before making your call..
[22:21] <androirc99> hmm at least i got onboard to work with gnome(xorg) only
[22:22] <androirc99> why is linux so buggy... still.. sigh.. i still love it though
[22:33] <LordDragon> anyone know how to restore META hotkey to open application launcher on kubuntu?
[22:39] <Square> Hey. Doesn't the weather applet come pre-installed with ubuntu 22.04? Mine has suddenly disappeared.
[22:47] <Habbie> Square, "pre-installed" and "suddenly" - are you saying it's gone after a reinstall?
[22:52] <Square> Habbie, I figured out what the problem was. All extensions had been turned off. Not something I've done myself though. Wierd. I could turn them on by enabling Extensions->Extensions
[22:52] <Habbie> oh weird
[22:52] <Habbie> well, glad you solved it
[22:53] <Square> Me too! =D
[23:09] <Habbie> Square, good :D
[23:52] <jim_hitek> jim_hitek> That worked, thanks, now I'd like to copy this so I can type it out and save if for the next time Ubuntu updates/upgrades. How do I do that?
 Nevermind, figured it out.
 Can I bring up another 'Worked in 22.04 but doesn't work in 22.10 issue' here, or start a new thread?
 Regarding commercial software/hardware that I pay a yearly fee for...StrongVPN. They have an engineer working on it but it's been nearly a week.
[23:52] <jim_hitek> Ignore first two lines from me...
[23:55] <jim_hitek> StrongVPN worked automatically to connect to their servers just fine in 21.10 & 22.04 but after upgrading to 22.10, it will not connect. I have a workaround using wget but it's inferior to the actual setup.