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| Eickmeyer | Good morning (for me) Desktopers! Just a huge FYI: I did a thing, mostly for the upcoming Edubuntu revival, but this might benefit everyone: https://launchpad.net/gnome-shell-extension-alphabetical-grid | 14:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Uploaded and just awaiting AA approval. | 14:07 |
| jbicha | Eickmeyer: btw https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/removal-of-gnome-shell-extension-from-universe-and-stop-auto-syncs/18437/9 | 15:08 |
| jbicha | we can add additional extensions to the list if they are needed by default. That list is also used when we do gnome-shell microrelease SRUs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/TestPlans/GNOMEShell | 15:09 |
| jbicha | The Debian GNOME team has a section for GNOME Shell extensions. Let me know if you want me to give you permissions for a package repo there https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/shell-extensions | 15:11 |
| Eickmeyer | jbicha: So, there's a reason for Edubuntu to want this: we want children to be able to understand alphabetizing. | 15:12 |
| Eickmeyer | I'd think that would be justification enough. | 15:12 |
| jbicha | that's fine | 15:13 |
| jbicha | do you know about GNOME Shell modes yet? | 15:14 |
| Eickmeyer | Yes, it's all taken care of in the edubuntu-artwork package. | 15:14 |
| Eickmeyer | https://git.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-dev/+git/edubuntu-artwork/tree/conf/gsettings/95_edubuntu-artwork.gschema.override | 15:15 |
| Eickmeyer | With that package installed, it overrides the minimal desktop install and reconfigures the desktop with new defaults. | 15:16 |
| jbicha | what I mean is more complex than that. There are two parts: the gnome-shell part could be its own package (in the edubuntu-artwork source package or wherever) | 15:17 |
| jbicha | https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/67 | 15:17 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Merge 67 in gnome-team/gnome-shell "Add a debian.json to define a custom GNOME Shell mode for Debian" [Opened] | 15:17 | |
| jbicha | The gnome-session part is easier done as a distro patch because then you can easily tweak the list of RequiredComponents (which is long and changes over time) | 15:18 |
| jbicha | https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-session/-/merge_requests/11 | 15:18 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-desktop- Merge 11 in gnome-team/gnome-session "Add debian-session package" [Opened] | 15:18 | |
| jbicha | That gnome-session merge proposal is just an example, you would want to use the Ubuntu packaging since we've diverged there | 15:19 |
| jbicha | The big benefit of all the work is that you can define an Edubuntu session with a custom list of default GNOME Shell extensions | 15:20 |
| Eickmeyer | Yes, we're using the Ubuntu packaging currently. The general idea here is that we're an "add-on" to the existing ubuntu-minimal seed, so it made sense just to use the "Ubuntu" shell mode. | 15:20 |
| Eickmeyer | So, the Ubuntu session. | 15:21 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu Desktop, Pop!_OS, Endless, GNOME Classic (and a mini GNOME Initial Setup mode) all use GNOME Shell modes | 15:21 |
| jbicha | using the Ubuntu mode is fine if you want the same extensions as Ubuntu but if you want to make changes, you might want your own mode | 15:22 |
| Eickmeyer | We want the same extensions plus one, which I found wasn't hard to do. I have one local commit that adds the support for it. | 15:22 |
| Eickmeyer | Doesn't change the underlying session. | 15:23 |
| Eickmeyer | jbicha: Looking into that, we'd have to redo the entire seed and create a whole edubuntu-session package, and there's no capacity to do that at this time. The seed is literally basing on ubuntu-desktop-minimal, and ripping that all out to start from scratch would be way too time-consuming for now. | 15:32 |
| Eickmeyer | The original plan back in 2007 was that it would be an add-on to the Ubuntu seed and I think that plan is still good. | 15:33 |
| jbicha | with only one non-essential extension, your session hasn't diverged enough for it to be too important to make a separate session & mode yet | 15:36 |
| Eickmeyer | Exactly. And, the plan is to keep it in-line with Ubuntu Desktop as close as possible, but tailored toward education. | 15:37 |
| Eickmeyer | So, honestly, I don't see the divergence happening. | 15:38 |
| Eickmeyer | That's why, with that one non-essential extension going under the Edubuntu umbrella and remaining in the Universe repository, I don't see an issue. | 15:40 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-shell Jeremy Bicha 374908 * commented merge request !67 * https://deb.li/LlyD | 15:44 |
| lissyx | bandali, sorry I see you tried to join the meeting | 16:27 |
| lissyx | bandali, I did mark I was not coming, I thought you'd received a notification of that? | 16:27 |
| bandali | hey lissyx, oh no worries! i just thought i'd try just in case, didn't know you'd get notified haha. i didn't get an email notification, but checking the calendar, i do see you'd indicated you wouldn't be joining | 21:24 |
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