[02:36] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[04:23] <wez> Good afternoon lotuspsychj3!  How are ya?
[12:01] <ogra> hey hey
[12:01] <MacSlow> yeah...
[12:01] <ogra> beter to not spam the support channel with general discussion 
[12:01] <ogra> *better
[12:02] <MacSlow> started writing a small software synth about 2 years ago... and realized that I know nothing about music (theory) .... so I did what all good engineers do... learning from first principle.
[12:02] <MacSlow> and here I am learning piano and guitar... piano is ok-ish, but guitar is hard as hell
[12:03]  * ogra learned guitar as a kid ... then the teacher moved and i never looked for a new one
[12:04] <MacSlow> guitar is certainly cooler (than piano), but as a beginner piano is more satisfying as one gets "music" out of it with less effort.
[12:05] <MacSlow> but guitar beats piano expression-wise
[12:10] <MacSlow> ogra, regarding my kmscon-hack... already asked seb128 yesterday... I am looking for people interested in this console-stuff to test it on their systems... just running it on my hardware here is no real exposure to the harsh reality of the wild out there :)
[12:11] <ogra> well, as i said, dscourse.ubuntu.com ... make a "call for testing" there 😉
[12:11] <ogra> *discourse
[12:12] <ogra> it is the central community hub nowadays
[12:13] <MacSlow> ewwww that electron app?! :)
[12:13] <MacSlow> *sigh*
[12:14] <ogra> its a website ... 
[12:14] <MacSlow> Software is going to hell ;)
[12:14] <ogra> just like a forum 
[12:16] <MacSlow> ogra, ah... that reminds me that my 2FA is messed up for ubuntu sso
[12:16] <ogra> ouch
[12:16] <ogra> perhaps #launchpad can help with that 
[12:17] <MacSlow> ogra, I didn't yet try to use my yubi-key to fix the out-of-sync issue I have here.
[19:20] <sem> Do you think snapd 2.58, released in December, is going to be backported to Ubuntu LTS? What kind of timeframe is usual for that kind of thing? After 23.04 is released?
[19:24] <cartdrige> If there is no security fix or important changes/update, i'm not sure they would backport new version, would they?
[19:28] <PaulW2U> sem: see bug 1998462 - SRU uploaded today for testing
[19:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Bug 1998462 in snapd (Ubuntu Kinetic) "[SRU] 2.58" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998462
[20:15] <sarnold> sem: snapd on ubuntu (and some other distros) replaces itself via snap, too; 2.58 was released to stable on 10 January 2023 -- if your machine's been on once in a while since then, it should probably have already installed it
[21:59] <leftyfb> sorry about the constant disconnects today. planned/unplanned outage
[22:00] <arrayboltXE> Meh, doesn't bother me. :)
[22:00] <arrayboltXE> It's when some guy disconnects and reconnects 30+ times that I start being like "DUDE!" :P
[22:01] <arrayboltXE> *some guy that I've never seen before
[22:03] <sarnold> hah yeah familiarity either breeds "yeah that's fine" or "omg when will this person fix their stupid connection"
[22:03] <sarnold> depending upon how they contribute :)
[22:03] <sarnold> if they contribute only the bouncy connection...
[22:06] <leftyfb> Comcast sent me an email on Tuesday, 1/10 saying there's maintenance going on on 1/17. Then they sent another email on 1/16 saying there's maintenance going on tomorrow. Great. In 20 years dealing with them I don't think I've never received noticed of a planned outage. Certainly not a week and then 24 hours notice. I was impressed ....
[22:06] <leftyfb> notice, today is not Tuesday, 1/17
[22:06] <leftyfb> my internet never went down Tuesday. 8pm I messaged them asking if it was over. I got "There's no currently any ongoing outage"
[22:07] <JanC> better planned outages than unplanned ones like I'm suffering from...  :-(
[22:07] <leftyfb> turns out, it got extended to today, they notified me by email at 5am. Then a text an hour after I lost service at 7pm. 
[22:07] <leftyfb> it's been up and down all day
[22:08] <arrayboltXE> I suffer frequent outages, but that's because my whole network is controlled by a hotspot that I sometimes make fumbles with :P
[22:08] <leftyfb> now, I have LTE failover, but that doesn't really work when the service is flapping between them all day. I can't keep a VPN service up
[22:08] <JanC> depends on the VPN
[22:08] <arrayboltXE> The battery will supposedly break if you overcharge it, so i run the thing in batteryless mode and connect it with USB. Then I reboot the computer that I have the thing plugged into and...
[22:09] <arrayboltXE> *arraybolt3 has left (Ping timeout: 292 seconds)
[22:09] <leftyfb> either way, I'm back up. I called and tore Comcast a new one for the lack of proper notification of the actual outage. They gave me a credit on my bill
[22:12] <sarnold> woot