[00:00] <val_> I fixed the sound to keep the enhanced amplification option to %150 :)
[00:05] <oerheks> Does that stick over 100% after reboot?
[00:11] <Sp3eDem0n> hello world@!!
[00:12] <val_> yes, it sticks to %150 after reboot
[00:22] <Polochon_street> hi! Is there any way place with checksums (md5, etc) of binaries installed by default on Ubuntu? I'm facing something that might have compromised my `ps` (and other commands), and I'd like to check their integrity
[00:26] <Bashing-om> Polochon_street: Yeah - kernel keeps a check file: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package_name>.md5sums : list of MD5 hash values for files installed by the package. The installation of debsums enables verification of installed package files against MD5sum values in the this file.
[00:26] <Polochon_street> which package `ps` belongs to? `dpkg -S /bin/ps` didn't return anything
[00:27] <Polochon_street> I assume it's a built-in or something, so not sure how this works
[00:32] <oerheks> dpkg -S /bin/ps returns procps: /bin/ps
[00:32] <oerheks> !info procps
[00:33] <oerheks> so you have a weird ubuntu?
[00:35] <val_> who? me?
[00:37] <oerheks> no, not you val_
[00:38] <oerheks> i wait for a good time to reboot, never got volume set above 100%.
[00:39] <val_> click on sound icon on the taskbar, the check the option: raise maximum volume
[00:39] <val_> but it worked after installing the app gnome tweaks and selecting: over amplification
[00:40] <val_> install the app first
[00:41] <Polochon_street> yea, that ubuntu VM is in an interesting state :D thanks for the help!
[00:46] <sarnold> oerheks: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=134758
[00:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Debian bug 134758 in dpkg "dpkg-query: Make -S handle unowned symlinks resolving to owned pathnames" [Wishlist, Open]
[00:46] <sarnold> oerheks: dpkg -S just plain doesn't know what's what some of the time :(
[00:48] <oerheks> weird, it worked for me
[00:57] <lagash_> Hello, I'm trying to get hostapd working. I have an USB WiFi adapter, I know it has AP support (I've used it before on a RPi), but apparently Ubuntu uses a stack that's different from what I'm used to. For instance, I can't find /etc/network/interfaces, and I've heard that's because Ubuntu now uses netplan?? I want it so that when the interface appears (i.e. when I plug in the device), the AP gets started.
[00:58] <lagash_> I'm using Ubuntu jammy. /etc/netplan/* seems to pass it on to NetworkManager, and NM seems to have the ifupdown plugin...
[01:01] <sarnold> lagash_: you can switch netplan to use the systemd-networkd framework, too
[01:02] <lagash_> sarnold: I'm actually more familiar with NM
[01:02] <sarnold> lagash_: unfortunately i find the docs on the system itself to be pretty thin; the better docs are online https://netplan.io/
[02:45] <theorem> so, if vncserver allows me to connect , but upon connection it's just a gray screen.  I thik this means the window manager is not functioning, right ?
[02:49] <sarnold> or perhaps it is running and no clients have been configured to start?
[02:49] <sarnold> I never really got the hang of vnc things
[02:49] <theorem> hmm, I just ran gnome-session
[02:49] <theorem> /usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary: symbol lookup error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_proxy_marshal_flags
[02:49] <theorem> seems like a library problem
[02:50] <crax23> that;s probably because it started a secondary X session theorem.
[02:50] <crax23> Bad vnc server configuration i think.
[02:50] <theorem> hmm, ok.
[02:50] <theorem> the library problem isn't a normal error though
[02:51] <theorem> I'll tweak the vncserver conf though
[02:51] <sarnold> that sounds a bit like it's trying to run wayland
[02:52] <theorem> yes, it was working ok before .. but I think I broke something ...
[02:52] <sarnold> does that work? I heard pipewire things were introduced to try to make wayland deal with recording and remote sessions and the like
[02:52] <sarnold> ah
[02:52] <theorem> should it not run wayland ?
[02:52] <pinkergloop> yo
[02:52] <pinkergloop> so i'm on ubuntu studio 22.10
[02:53] <pinkergloop> i still have the weird issue with my desktop (plasma) from yesterday where everything desktop-related freezes but existing apps still run
[02:53] <theorem> here's the config https://pastebin.com/0Q8nATwz
[02:53] <pinkergloop> let me post the logs
[02:54] <sarnold> theorem: is the missing # at the start an accident in pasting?
[02:54] <theorem> yes, paste error
[02:54] <theorem> the shebang is there
[02:54] <pinkergloop> https://pastebin.com/G0HQX2pj
[02:54] <pinkergloop> i have no idea what to do as of rn
[02:55] <sarnold> theorem: there's two calls to gnome-session -- I'd expect only one of those to be necessary. I don't know what exactly gnome-session is supposed to do, but I think I'd expect it to be responsible for starting the panel, shell, etc
[02:55] <sarnold> theorem: it's a bit weird that metacity is listed, too -- I thought that was replaced by gnome-shell?
[02:56] <theorem> I hacked it together
[02:56] <theorem> and it worked , so I left it :-P
[02:56] <sarnold> hehe :)
[02:56] <theorem> but, it doesn't work now
[02:56] <theorem> so .. there's that
[02:56] <theorem> :)
[02:56] <theorem> I'll remove metacity
[02:57] <sarnold> pinkergloop: sheesh, that's pretty hard to decipher :(
[02:58] <theorem> interesting
[02:58] <theorem> yes, it must be this library problem
[02:58] <theorem> because I am getting it with xfce4 too
[02:59] <theorem> xfce4-session: symbol lookup error: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_proxy_marshal_flags
[02:59] <pinkergloop> sarnold: oh damn :/
[03:00] <pinkergloop> what could be the cause of the whole "binding loop" thing?
[03:01] <pinkergloop> the one theory that i do have is it MIGHT be a graphics card driver thing
[03:04] <theorem> hmm, so this has to be a library issue.  the gtk3 lib must have this symbol
[03:05] <theorem> I suppose I could find the source package that installed it wih apt
[03:06] <pinkergloop> idk though, isn't the rx 6950 xt supposed to work out of box?
[03:07] <sarnold> theorem: oo check this last comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1960737
[03:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1960737 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3-0/gtk-query-immodules-3.0: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_proxy_marshal_flags" [Undecided, Invalid]
[03:08] <sarnold> pinkergloop: I'm no expert on video stuff but that sounds pretty plausible, yeah
[03:09] <theorem> sarnold: checking
[03:09] <pinkergloop> theorem: tysm
[03:10] <theorem> sarnold: oh, that saouds very plausible, I did have the amdgpu drivers installed, I thought I removed all of them
[03:11] <theorem> they have all been disabled .. but I do have them ...
[03:12] <theorem> so I suspect I need to upgrade them ..
[03:12] <pinkergloop> theorem: i never installed them tbh because i was under the impression that ubuntu came with them. only problem is that on the amd website, rx 6950 xt drivers seem to be only for up to 22.04 but i'm on 22.10. would that be an issue?
[03:13] <theorem> pinkergloop: you chatting to sarnold ?
[03:13] <pinkergloop> theorem: oh wait nvm somehow i missed what he said to you and thought he was calling you for help loool
[03:14] <pinkergloop> sarnold: but yeah
[03:14] <pinkergloop> my complete mistake
[03:14] <theorem> ;-P  all good
[03:18] <theorem> sarnold: so, rather than upgrade, it looks like I installed it by file
[03:18] <theorem> how do I just ... remove it ?
[03:19] <theorem> eg: deb https://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu/22.10.2/ubuntu focal main
[03:19] <theorem> whoops, wrong paste
[03:19] <sarnold> theorem: maybe apt install --reinstall <packagename> ?
[03:20] <theorem> # deb [trusted=yes] file:/var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local/ ./ # disabled on upgrade to bionic
[03:20] <theorem> this is how I installed it
[03:20] <theorem> the files are around
[03:20] <theorem> but I don't want to add the dist back to apt
[03:20] <theorem> I should be able to use dpkg yo remove it ?
[03:20] <theorem> *to
[03:20] <sarnold> yeah, dpkg --purge or something like that; I haven't used it directly in ages
[03:24] <Leftinthsun> yes
[03:24] <theorem> https://pastebin.com/Cpc9pBtC
[03:24] <theorem> :-|
[03:25] <theorem> I *think* I can remove all this
[03:26] <sarnold> I think so too, but boy that's a big list
[03:26] <theorem> yeah
[03:26] <theorem> they're all inter-dependent too
[03:34] <theorem> getting there ....
[03:35] <pink_eye> GM
[03:39] <theorem> damn.
[03:39] <theorem> that was a lit to remove
[03:39] <theorem> *list
[03:39] <theorem> but it fixed it.
[03:40] <theorem> now to make vncserver atually look good.
[03:40] <sarnold> theorem: sweet!
[03:42] <theorem> ohhhhhhh yes.  it look sso much better :)
[03:42] <theorem> it was such a bitch to setup vncserver the first time
[03:43] <sarnold> hah yeah taht's the impression I always get whenever someone debugs it into working :)
[03:43] <theorem> now ... I WOULD like it to look like the standard Ubuntu desktop
[03:43] <theorem> you said something about metacity before
[03:43] <theorem> what should it be instead ?
[03:44] <theorem> I had a bunch of stuff crash as it started properly
[03:44] <theorem> ( from the xstartup, so it's ok )
[03:44] <sarnold> gnome-shell -- I'm pretty sure it ought to be started by gnome-session
[03:45] <theorem> gnome-session gnome-shell &
[03:45] <theorem> ??
[03:49] <sarnold> oh no :(
[03:52] <theorem> woo.
[03:53] <sarnold> oh yay!
[03:54] <theorem> sarnold: so, if I am getting "Oh No! Something has gone wrong ..."  "Please log out and try again"  ..
[03:54] <theorem> what could this be ?
[03:57] <sarnold> theorem: oh no :( that's very vague :(
[03:57] <theorem> haha
[03:58] <theorem> alright, let me get some logs
[04:00] <theorem> Xlib:  extension "X-Resource" missing on display ":1".
[04:03] <theorem> ok, this makes more sense
[04:03] <sarnold> oh wow
[04:03] <theorem> https://pastebin.com/YhUYGeMZ
[04:03] <theorem> sarnold: lol, what ?
[04:03] <theorem> I am imagining you making the "scared pikachu" face :)
[04:03] <sarnold> theorem: I can't really imagine X without X resources
[04:03] <sarnold> theorem: I had no idea it was an *extension*, they've been there longer than I've been using linux, lol
[04:04] <theorem> oh, could I have uninstalled it by accident ?
[04:04] <sarnold> I hope not :)
[04:05] <theorem> heh
[04:06] <sarnold> theorem: I've got to head out :( good luck
[04:06] <theorem> later
[04:06] <theorem> have fun
[04:06] <sarnold> thanks :) you too!
[07:25] <eest> sarnold: yeah i will see what i can do, trying to figure out how to best deal with the situation, seems it would make sense to, at some part in the program, iterate over the found devices, check if any duplicate wwn's exist and mark a drive as such, so that instead of just removing wwn like i did, you can check "is this duplicate" and continue to the next option like serial
[07:37] <pink_eye> greetings
[07:42] <ducasse> morning
[09:36] <Chunkyz> Morning all ❤️❣️
[09:40] <kostkon> Chunkyz, morning
[11:44] <trafficjam> what are the advantages of ubuntu core?
[11:45] <ravage> trafficjam: https://ubuntu.com/core/features
[11:45] <trafficjam> can it be run locally?
[11:46] <trafficjam> and do I need that bs Ubuntu One account to access it?
[11:49] <collector-ynh[m]> Hi, I am using Ubuntu with full encryption on an SSD, and I just added a second SSD that I use only for storage, but I would like to add it to the Ubuntu LUKS encryption as well, so that when I decrypt the OS, it also decrypts it.
[11:49] <collector-ynh[m]> Is it possible to add a storage medium to the Ubuntu LUKS encryption?
[11:50] <ravage> collector-ynh[m]: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368073/is-it-possible-to-unlock-multiple-luks-devices-to-form-a-lvm-at-boot
[11:51] <ravage> The current version of *ubuntu seems to automatically load the mentioned script without being specified.
[12:08] <ice99> the naming reported by lsusb --tree is different from what dmesg reports when a device is plugged; so how can I identify which port I'm using to find out it's speed?
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> ice99: is sudo lsusb -vvv |grep -i -B5 -A5 bcdUSB , what you seek for?
 "collector-ynh: https://unix...." <- thanks :)
[13:15] <MacSlow> Greetings everyone!
[13:28] <tarel2> Installed Ubuntu first and gentoo second.  for gentoo I chose to put it on own partition and made second efi for Gentoo.  now I thought rather then push f2 and use the bios to chose which os, a menu in grub would be nice. How do you use os-prober in Ubuntu 20.04?
[13:29] <Jeremy31> tarel2: Might just have to reinstall grub from Ubuntu
[13:30] <tarel2> Wow , that is lame
[13:31] <Guest19> Hi guys I need help with a question about Bitcoin and Taxes in the USA hoping u guys can advise
[13:32] <Guest19> I bought $100 worth of BTC with my debit card on Coinbase, then sold back to coinbase for USD, and withdrew to my bank account
[13:32] <tomreyn> !ot | Guest19
[13:32] <Guest19> IDK how to file this in taxes, as I no longer have access to my coinbase
[13:32] <Guest19> come on dude its 5am and theres no other discussions
[15:12] <theguy> hello
[15:13] <theguy> chat
[15:33] <nhu> can i have help
[15:34] <leftyfb> !ask | nhu
[15:34] <alkisg> !ask
[15:35] <nhu> !patience
[15:35] <leftyfb> nhu: what do you need help with?
[15:38] <nhu> i need help with trying to install pihole it gives this output :
[15:38] <jhutchins> !paste
[15:39] <nhu> ✓] Checking for sudo
[15:39] <nhu>   [✓] Checking for unzip
[15:39] <nhu>   [i] Checking for idn2 (will be installed)
[15:39] <nhu>   [✓] Checking for libcap2-bin
[15:39] <nhu>   [✓] Checking for dns-root-data
[15:39] <nhu>   [✓] Checking for libcap2
[15:39] <leftyfb> nhu: pihole is not a supported application in ubuntu. nhu that said, there are plenty of really good tutorials on how to install it https://raspberrytips.com/install-pi-hole-on-ubuntu/
[15:40] <leftyfb> nhu: https://www.osradar.com/install-pihole-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[15:56] <Chunkyz> There's also #pihole on this network
[15:56] <Chunkyz> Oh, he left.
[17:09] <user521> Hello All, I hope you re good. I have a HP Pavillion with Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS installed. Everything is in full working order but, when I lower the lid and then reopen, it goes stuck in airplane mode and there is no way to get out of it. This happens both with battery or powered. Could please anyone support me? I tried already some guide on google but it didnt work unfortunately
[17:09] <user521> thaks a lot
[17:10] <mister_m> I have a laptop where I've used gnome-tweaks to swap caps lock and control for accessibility reasons. Unfortunately, if I plug in an external keyboard where this is not necessary the re-map would also apply to the external keyboard. Is anyone aware of a way to have this caps/ctrl swap only apply to my laptop's keyboard and nothing external? I imagine I'd need to do this outside of gnome-tweaks.
[17:54] <RP_M> hi all
[18:06] <jhutchins> mister_m: Are you expecting to use both keyboards as input to the same user session?
[18:07] <mister_m> jhutchins: I am, yes
[18:19] <jhutchins> mister_m: I believe there is nothing that distinguishes the source of keyboard input.  I think the system can't tell which keyboard is sending a code.
[18:49] <mister_m> Ah bummer. jhutchins Assuming that there is a different way to manage this outside of gnome-tweaks (I am sure there is), would there be an easy way to flip between having that re-map on or off?
[18:50] <mister_m> It looks like this thread https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/268171/linux-detect-if-external-keyboard-is-plugged-to-laptop  may have some ideas on doing this with udev rules. Looks complicated
[20:12] <ice9> where can I see a list of Ubunut's patches to the stock kernel?
[20:15] <rbox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode
[21:06] <jhutchins> mister_m: I think the premise is that you are very unlikely to use two keyboards at the same time, therefore it's easier to just toggle the layout on the keyboard you are using at the time.
[21:07] <jhutchins> mister_m: Multi-station multi-session is built into the linux core, but usually requires some special hardware.
[21:08] <jhutchins> (And I just got rid of my eight port serial expander...)
[21:10] <Elliria> Hey there, does anybody know of a YAML viewer for Ubuntu?
[21:11] <rbox> yaml is text
[21:11] <rbox> so... cat
[21:11] <Elliria> No, I mean a GUI so you can see how it behaves.
[21:11] <Elliria> I write and edit it in Geany text editor, but I'd like to see the result.
[21:12] <rbox> behave?
[21:12] <rbox> what result
[21:12] <Elliria> You can create interactive elements with YAML and I'd like to see them.
[21:12] <rbox> use your eyes?
[21:12] <jhutchins> Elliria: Most web browsers will render yaml.
[21:13] <jhutchins> Elliria: What's your end application?
[21:13] <Elliria> GitHub, but I'd love an offline viewer so I can perfect the code offline and them only put it onto GitHub once I like it.
[21:13] <Elliria> You're a rude person rbox.
[21:15] <Habbie> Elliria, what kind of interactive elements do you mean?
[21:16] <jhutchins> Elliria: GitHub doesn't render YAML, so I'm presuming the actuall end viewer is in fact a web browser.  Maybe you didn't know web browsers can render local files?
[21:16] <Elliria> Checkboxes, radio buttons, etc.
[21:16] <Habbie> Elliria, ok, that doesn't sound like "just YAML" but some specific application that uses it
[21:17] <Elliria> GitHub uses YAML for their new issue templates: https://docs.github.com/en/communities/using-templates-to-encourage-useful-issues-and-pull-requests/syntax-for-issue-forms
[21:17] <Elliria> Yeah, and I'm hoping for a similar application for my offline use.
[21:18] <Habbie> ok, now the question is clear
[22:33] <philipp64> I recently applied updates and rebooted on my 22.04 x86_64 system, and now I can't scp/sftp to/from that system... though "ssh" itself seems to mostly work.  any ideas?
[22:33] <philipp64> I get: client_loop: send disconnect: Broken pipe
[22:34] <jim> I'm temporarily running ubuntu, I think it's the lts 22.04... I'm trying to get pulse and jack to cooperate; how can I do that?
[22:34] <jim> philipp64, I dunno.. is the sshd running?
[22:35] <philipp64> yes, like I said, I can ssh in just fine.
[22:35] <jim> but can't scp?
[22:35] <philipp64> correct
[22:36] <jim> ok, what happens when you try?
[22:36] <ravage> jim: i think Ubuntu Studio has a much better integration with jack
[22:36] <philipp64> MacOS to ubuntu:
[22:36] <philipp64> ssh_dispatch_run_fatal: Connection to 192.168.8.33 port 22: message authentication code incorrect
[22:37] <philipp64> Ubuntu to other linux system:
[22:37] <philipp64> client_loop: send disconnect: Broken pipe
[22:37] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-installer
[22:37] <jim> so the ubuntu is where you're starting from? running the scp on?
[22:37] <ravage> there is the expert on that :) \o Eickmeyer
[22:38] <Eickmeyer> Hey ravage o/
[22:39] <ravage> philipp64: do you auth with a private key?
[22:39] <jim> yeah, I had problems with cadence when I tried it under debian... the deps were weird, it pulled in weird packages, and I had to reinstall the thing
[22:39] <philipp64> ravage: yes
[22:40] <ravage> philipp64: can you try to enable password auth and see if the problem is still there?
[22:40] <jim> Eickmeyer, is it cadence?
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> jim: No, in fact we encourage avoiding cadence.
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> !kxstudio | jim
[22:41] <jim> ok
[22:41] <jim> that does make me feel a bit better about it
[22:42] <Eickmeyer> !studio-controls | jim: We have a built-in-house (but available to other distros) app.
[22:43] <jim> Eickmeyer, does ubumtu studio (sp) have ardour? and/or, could I build it?
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> Yes, Ardour is included.
[22:44] <jim> ok, let's see.. I would start by installing ubuntu studio?
[22:44] <ravage> good first step :)
[22:44] <Eickmeyer> jim: Depends. You can either go the Ubuntu Studio .iso route or use any official flavor and use ubuntustudio-installer route.
[22:44] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-installer | jim
[22:45] <ravage> i would for the LTS release if you dont have any bleeding edge hardware
[22:45] <ravage> the ISO is the best way if you dont care about your current ubuntu installation of course
[22:45] <Eickmeyer> And if you don't mind the KDE Plasma desktop.
[22:45] <ravage> oh yeah
[22:46] <ravage> forgot about that :D
[22:46] <Eickmeyer> If you like other desktops, go to the flavor you like, then install ubuntustudio-installer and install everything that way.
[22:46] <jim> kde is fine as long as it works :)
[22:47] <jim> so this "official flavor" involves reinstalling linux?
[22:47] <kwak> What's a safe, easy, convenient and user-friendly way to wipe the data on a Ubuntu PC (with no concern for existing data) in preparation for handing its HDD over to someone who can't be trusted not to do forensics on the drive to access sensitive data?
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> !flavor | jim
[22:48] <Habbie> kwak, HDD or SSD?
[22:48] <kwak> I honestly don't know!
[22:48] <kwak> It's a laptop.
[22:48] <ravage> jim: i would go with a clean installation if you already messed with the audio routing and installed stuff for it
[22:49] <Habbie> kwak, ah actually this one might work for both https://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=16716
[22:49] <kwak> Seems to be SSD.
[22:49] <Habbie> ah
[22:49] <Habbie> then click the first link in this article
[22:49] <Habbie> oh, that doesn't really cover Linux
[22:50] <Eickmeyer> jim: I agree with ravage. Sounds like the kxstudio (and cadence) stuff messed with your system, predictably.
[22:50] <Habbie> kwak, anyway, see if that hdparm method works - either it works and is pretty quick, or it fails and you can look further
[22:51] <kwak> Alright cool, I'll add that to the list of things to try.
[22:51] <kwak> Thanks pal. :)
[22:51] <Habbie> np, good luck :)
[22:51] <n9sgg> dd if=/dev/random # figure out the rest
[22:51] <jhutchins> Is the SATA erase considered DOD secure?
[22:52] <jhutchins> DBAN is.
[22:52] <jim> Eickmeyer, ravage, here's the problem, and why I'm in ubuntu now: I used to have a 4thGen i5, but the DSP started crapping out on it, so I decided to upgrade to a new cpu, and I thought, i7... so I got it, and it's a 12thGen i7, and intel says something like, "we added the driver to ubuntu, but other dists we'll get to another time"... so I'm sitting waiting in ubuntu until other dists get the driver
[22:52] <Habbie> jhutchins, on SSDs too?
[22:52] <jhutchins> Habbie: Which?
[22:52] <jim> so... I actually -do- have "bleeding edge" hardware... argh.
[22:52] <Habbie> jhutchins, is DBAN on SSDs considered DOD secure?
[22:53] <jhutchins> Yes.  It may not be the preferred method given the extensive writing, but it's acceptable.
[22:53] <ravage> jim: well. this is the Ubuntu support channel. we can only help with that :)
[22:53] <Habbie> ok, dban.org says "It cannot detect or erase SSDs "
[22:54] <Eickmeyer> jim: I haven't distro-hopped for about 5 years, so as you can tell, I'm pretty happy. :)
[22:54] <jim> really, if you want to avoid giving this person (that you don't trust) a "wiped" drive, I would suggest -not- giving him a drive you care about the contents of
[22:54] <jhutchins> Habbie: Sorry, I guess my knowledge is obsolete.
[22:54] <Habbie> jim, +100 to that
[22:55] <Habbie> jhutchins, i hoped to find that wikipedia was obsolete and dban.org was not, but i guess we both learned things today!
[22:55] <Habbie> because a few minutes ago i was actually going to suggest DBAN "because surely it handles SSDs too"
[22:55] <jim> ravage, yep, I get that...
[22:55] <jhutchins> I thought there was a way to run dban manually rather than just the boot method.
[22:56] <jhutchins> 'course my real knowledge of it goes back to two boot floppies.
[22:56] <Habbie> hehe
[22:56] <Habbie> i actually only learned about DBAN recently, browsing the list of offerings in netboot.xyz
[22:57] <jim> Eickmeyer, someday I'd tell you my story of why I picked debian 25 years ago... but that's kinda offtopic for here, and there's activity, so it's just noise
[22:57] <Habbie> (it was not what i needed at the time and netboot.xyz kindly provided another warning screen before it would boot it)
[22:58] <Eickmeyer> jim: Right. I hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntustudio-offtopic if you ever want to tell me stories. :)
[23:04] <jim> ok, thanks for letting me know... I installed that ubuntustudio-installer package, and now I get sound from youtube, so things are looking up
[23:07] <philipp64> ravage: found the problem. a dev had installed /etc/ld.so.conf.d/crypto.conf pointing to /usr/local/lib/libcrypto... with an openssl-3.0.x built without openssl-1.1.x compatbility API's enabled.
[23:08] <ravage> philipp64: great :)
[23:51] <lucas__> hello?