[06:47] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, for llvm-toolchain-11, any news? reverse-depends looks happy now
[06:48] <LocutusOfBorg> or do we need bpfcc to migrate?
[08:02] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: I'll do a new check with process-removals in the next day or so
[08:03] <LocutusOfBorg> ack thanks
[08:05] <ricotz> hello, is this issue on arm64/armhf known? dpkg: cycle found while processing triggers:
[08:05] <ricotz>  chain of packages whose triggers are or may be responsible:
[08:05] <ricotz>   ca-certificates-java -> ca-certificates-java
[08:06] <ricotz> this is happening on lunar autopkgtests
[08:06] <ricotz> e.g. https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/results/autopkgtest-lunar/lunar/arm64/libr/libreoffice/20230123_021733_f9f67@/log.gz
[09:57] <sil2100> Eickmeyer, RikMills, tsimonq2: is there anything actionable re: the pulseaudio/pipewire conflict in the flavor images?
[09:59] <seb128> is there any reason why some of the flavors would like to stick to pulseaudio rather than follow us and switch to pipewire?
[10:00] <seb128> and if they do why do they want to install pipewire-pulse?
[10:01] <seb128> sil2100, also checking logs made me notice https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/lunar/daily-legacy-20230123.log 'KeyError: "Product 'Ubuntu Desktop (Legacy) amd64' not found"' from the iso tracker, is that expected?
[10:01] <sil2100> seb128: yeah, that's fine, it's a non-critical error. It appears because we didn't add the legacy images to the isotracker, which I feel like we indeed shouldn't
[10:02] <sil2100> On the other hand, hm, I mean, at least I didn't add it as at the beginning we said we're not releasing the legacy ones this cycle at all
[10:02] <sil2100> ...but did that change?
[10:13] <seb128> sil2100, I though we said we would publish them as a fallback for one cycle to not frustrate users more than needed in case the new installer isn't perfect yet
[10:13] <seb128> but maybe I recall wrong, let's talk about it in the installer meeting tomorrow maybe?
[10:14] <sil2100> Yes. So I remember originally I've been told we won't be providing those at all, but later indeed I heard voices that we might do the same as we did for subiquity. But I never got a strict directive
[10:48] <sil2100> tjaalton: hey! I wanted to release the HWE stack for jammy now, but I see libdrm has an ADT regression for mutter - did you by any chance look into that?
[10:48] <sil2100> tjaalton: did you perform validation of that stack by any chance already? Since I only see test results from Mario
[11:03] <ricotz> ddstreet, hello :), could you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/2002941
[11:03] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2002941 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Jammy) "[BPO] libreoffice 7.4.4 for jammy" [Medium, In Progress]
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[11:46] <tjaalton> sil2100: re libdrm; that's weird.. I've retried it now, the actual test results seem good though
[11:46] <tjaalton> sil2100: and yes I've run it on intel hw without issues
[11:46] <tjaalton> mario covered amd
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[12:24] <cjwatson> This came up on #launchpad as well, but FYI, syncing from Debian is currently broken due to https://bugs.debian.org/1029497
[12:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1029497 in ftp.debian.org "ftp.debian.org: weird non-free-firmware/dep11 structure in bookworm" [Normal, Open]
[12:34] <cpaelzer_> sil2100: Hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/collectd/+bug/1971093 is a case which needs AA+SRU in one person as it is in NEW atm. Could you have a look for that whenever you are on SRU duty next time?
[12:34] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1971093 in collectd (Ubuntu Jammy) "collectd missing in 22.04/jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[12:35] <sil2100> cpaelzer_: will look after lunch o/
[12:39] <amurray> /gq/gq
[13:32] <RikMills> sil2100: can't log in to bileto
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[13:37] <sil2100> Darn Bileto
[13:37] <sil2100> Where's my Bileto access?!
[13:39] <sil2100> Poking IS agian
[13:39] <sil2100> s/agian/again
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[13:43] <RikMills> sil2100: thanks. I guess at least I have a spare PPA I held on to to test some things ;)
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[14:51] <sil2100> RikMills: ok, I asked IS in the meantime to restart bileto... and it helped! :O
[14:52] <sil2100> To know why exactly, I'd need access to the machine, but that ticket is still 'in flight'
[14:52] <sil2100> But meanwhile, Bileto seems to 'live' (barely) again
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[15:04] <RikMills> sil2100: ah, thanks
[15:18] <tsimonq2> sil2100: pipewire-alsa> Morning! Eickmeyer would know better, since it looks like it's just Ubuntu Studio (at least out of Lubuntu, Kubuntu, and US) that's failing
[15:19] <tsimonq2> As far as I can see from scrollback, it's a seed issue. Ubuntu Studio wants both pulseaudio and pipewire (which IMO is unnecessary due to pipewire-pulse) but he could speak more to the current state of that.
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: That's fixed, but in order for it to fix, the metas need to migrate, which is blocked by the s390x builders being sad.
[15:25] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: However, I am unhappy that I had to rip-out pulsaudio to fix it.
[15:26] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: Debian bug 1029377 explains the situation.
[15:26] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1029377 in pipewire-pulse "pipewire-pulse: Please remove Recommends: pipewire-alsa" [Important, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1029377
[15:26] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Looks like the s390x build passed.
[15:26] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: (As of four hours ago.)
[15:28] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: We still had packages hard-depending on pulseaudio, so no, that was necessary. Also, we wanted to switch between pulseaudio/jack and pipewire, which is easy with services. That's explained in the Debian bug.
[15:29] <tsimonq2> (Well, I know it was necessary. I was more asking on s_il2100's point and less on s_eb128's point of "why?" :) )
[15:30] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. We're very unhappy because the pipewire-jack functionality is completely incompatible with most professional audio setups yet.
[15:31] <Eickmeyer> Especiallly some firewire cards that are alsa-incompatible and require ffado.
[15:31] <cjwatson> s390x builders should be recovering now.  Let me know if anything urgent needs to be prioritized.
[15:33] <Eickmeyer> cjwatson: Thanks for poking that. My goal was to get images building, hopefully somebody upstream with Debian looks into my bug and does something so I can revert my changes.
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[17:01] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, I don't know if this was discussed, but protobuf was rebuilt and now on i386... Missing build dependencies: ruby3.1-dev
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[17:24] <tsimonq2> ubuntu-release: Any thoughts on hinting Qt 5.15.8?
[17:25] <tsimonq2> qtbase-opensource-src{,-gles} are stuck on libreoffice tests, which don't seem related. They're also blocked on pyqt5, which has failing autopkgtests due to numpy, not because of Qt.
[17:31] <vorlon> would the pyqt5 tests pass with a different trigger?
[17:31] <vorlon> in general it's healthier, and more comprehensible after the fact, to get the tests to pass instead of hinting away the failures
[17:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libreoffice (kinetic-proposed/main) [1:7.4.4-0ubuntu0.22.10.1 => 1:7.4.4-0ubuntu0.22.10.2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[17:33] <ricotz> vorlon, hi, did you see my earlier question about "dpkg: cycle found while processing triggers: ..." related to ca-certificates-java?
[17:33] <ricotz> this is what libreoffice/lunar running into on armhf/arm64
[17:34] <tsimonq2> With these triggers: pyqt5/5.15.7+dfsg-3build1 qtbase-opensource-src/5.15.8+dfsg-2 qtdeclarative-opensource-src/5.15.8+dfsg-2 - numpy is still pulled in from proposed (as of three days ago, binoculars/amd64). Which is curious, because those transitions aren't intersecting.
[17:34] <vorlon> ricotz: afraid I missed it (irc client woes after dist-upgrade + an unnecessary proxy restart while trying to debug).  what was the actual question?
[17:35] <vorlon> ricotz: sounds like it's related to work vpa1977 has been doing, tho
[17:35] <tsimonq2> I agree fixing the tests is the way to go, but the failures are unrelated to Qt and fixing those failures would entangle Qt and Python.
[17:35] <ricotz> vorlon, I was asking if is known and worked on
[17:36] <vorlon> tsimonq2: pyqt5 depends on a lot more packages than just qtbase and qtdeclarative; therefore trying to install with just those triggers fails; and the fallback is to pull everything from -proposed with no pin
[17:36] <ricotz> this prevents libreoffice/lunar autopkgtests to pass
[17:36] <vorlon> ricotz: ok.  as I said I *think* vpa1977 has been working on this, but best to check directly with him; he's NZ-based so on rather a bit later
[17:36] <ricotz> vorlon, ok, thank you
[17:37] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: libbpfcc in lunar release still depends on libllvm11 so yes, we need to wait for it to migrate
[17:37] <ricotz> sil2100, hello :), would you still have time for a very small criticial fix for libreoffice/kinetic? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/2003735
[17:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2003735 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Kinetic) "[SRU] libreoffice 7.4.4 updates for kinetic" [Critical, In Progress]
[17:39] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: and I see bpfcc in turn is blocked on llvm-toolchain-15 which is blocked on pythran/armhf; any insight there?
[17:56] <RikMills> Qt5 is also blocked on pyside2 which depends on python3-defaults
[18:06] <tsimonq2> All glued together? :/
[18:06]  * tsimonq2 looks for places to unglue python3-defaults
[18:15] <LocutusOfBorg> been busy with python3-defaults, and raku*
[18:15] <LocutusOfBorg> will try to look at llvm-15
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[20:17] <tsimonq2> Debian bug 1029302 removing python-mox would likely help python3-defaults if completed in Ubuntu also.
[20:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1029302 in ftp.debian.org "RM: python-mox -- RoM; obsolete, upstream dead, alternative available" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1029302
[20:18] <tsimonq2> lintian should no longer FTBFS, I've done some related package uploads to Ubuntu and Debian for Python 3/numpy/Qt - probably going to need to wait for autopkgtests to settle down again :)
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[20:25] <arraybolt3> ubuntu-sru: Mind reviewing the lubuntu-update-notifier upload in Focal? It's pretty much the exact same SRU that was done in Kinetic and Jammy already, but it turned out that the fixes there needed backported to Focal also.
[20:25] <arraybolt3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/lubuntu-update-notifier/+bug/2002255
[20:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2002255 in lubuntu-update-notifier (Ubuntu Focal) "lubuntu-update-notifier provides no good way to resolve a forcibly terminated system update" [High, In Progress]
[20:25] <arraybolt3> sil2100: If you're around, ^
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[21:17] <vorlon> vpa1977: hey, ricotz was asking whether ca-certificates-java running into a dpkg trigger cycle on armhf during the libreoffice autopkgtest was something known / worked on
[21:20] <vpa1977> vorlon: I think it is due to circular dependency on java (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/1998697). I was hoping to pick it up next week and get it done. If there is more urgency i can start on that now
[21:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1998697 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "openjdk-20-jre: package ca-certificates-java 20220719 failed to install/upgrade: installed ca-certificates-java package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[21:27] <vorlon> vpa1977: I would let you and ricotz[m] discuss the urgency :)
[21:27] <vorlon> if it's an understood bug that's out of scope for libreoffice, and we're confident that libreoffice itself is not buggy, we have the option of ignoring the test failure if it's going to take a while to fix (or if it means that the test is in fact flaky already and promoting the new libreoffice does not regress)
[21:27] <vpa1977> I think this is the commit https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/ca-certificates-java/-/commit/7ed1dec510f562196f05a9e45156a25c76dd8e5e
[21:27] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Commit 7ed1dec in java-team/ca-certificates-java "* Promote again the JRE recommendation to a dependency. Otherwise"
[21:28] <vpa1977> We have discussed what to do with doko, and the idea was to rewrite java tool in python to drop the dependency altogether
[21:29] <vpa1977> But obviously it is not a half a day job, so if ignoring bug is an option, then it might be acceptable for now
[21:37] <vpa1977> I believe workaround here is install ca-certificates-java first and then install libreoffice