[03:26] <phil_azing> My 22.04 gnome settings/users does no show the fingerprint option but fprintd-* (enroll and so on) work and I can use my fingerprint to logon. How do I track down why it is not in settings/users?
[03:30] <phil_azing> I have Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS with gnome 42.5
[03:53] <LPLuigiEspenlaub> New machine, preinstalled Win11, Installed Ubuntu in dual boot, but after success message: could not find UEFI partition? Re-tryed install from USB, but at partition window [Next] is grayed out. Want to install grub2 which is not showing in the UEFI boot screen.
[03:58] <tomreyn> LPLuigiEspenlaub: make sure the ubuntu installer boots in uefi mode, try with secure boot disabled
[03:59] <tomreyn> this, types into a terminal window, would tell how you booted: echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[04:11] <Pr070cal_> hi guys anyone on
[04:12] <Pr070cal_> im having trouble dual booting 22.10 and win11 after i install win11 i install ubuntu 22.10 and the win boot partition doesnt boot anymore and grub doesnt list windows
[04:13] <Pr070cal_> how can i rebuild win11 boot partition
[04:30] <WaV> When you installed, did you choose "Install along Windows"
[04:31] <WaV> alongside* or whatever the verbage is
[04:33] <Echelon[m]> if i am not wrong it was probably the partitioning choices
[04:33] <Echelon[m]> if you want to remove the existing files and install ubuntu on it, in which case windows will be deleted
[04:33] <Echelon[m]> and the other was custom partitioning which was for dual booting
[04:41] <phil_azing> Where should I go to get help on Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS with gnome 42.5 failing to see a working fprintd?
[04:44] <JanC> phil_azing: is it gnome failing to see it or some application?
[04:45] <phil_azing> My 22.04 gnome settings/users does not show the fingerprint option but fprintd-* (enroll and so on) work and I can use my fingerprint to logon. How do I track down why it is not in settings/users?
[04:46] <JanC> is the settings app supposed to support that?
[04:46]  * JanC has never used fingerprints like that
[04:47] <phil_azing> Yes but the opion only shows if there is a working fprintd I think.
[04:47] <JanC> from a security PoV fingerprints aren't a very good replacement for passwords BTW
[04:48] <JanC> (but that's irrelevant for the issue)
[04:52] <JanC> phil_azing: was fprintd installed & started before you started your current Gnome session?
[04:53] <JanC> seems like it properly dbus initiated & such, so in theory that shouldn't be an issue, but just to be sure...
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> think we got a good fingerprint wiki out there, but oerheks just left he knows about it
[04:56] <phil_azing> systemctl status fprintd.service shows as loaded (/lib/systemd/system/fprintd.service; static) inactive (dead) but it starts on use and times out after 30 seconds.
[04:57] <JanC> I suppose you are trying to do something like this: https://itsfoss.com/fingerprint-login-ubuntu/
[04:58] <phil_azing> Yes, that is the idea. It all works other than control via settings/users
[04:59] <JanC> did you configure it in some other way instead?
[05:01] <phil_azing> It worked on initial install but there have been upgrades since and a bios update so something has changed to lose the function. I was thinking apparmor or permitions elsewhere.
[05:01] <JanC> oh
[05:02] <phil_azing> I now set it up via fprint-d enrol username
[05:03] <JanC> is that supposed to be compatible with the Gnome stuff?
[05:03] <phil_azing> So it has to do with the connection from gnome to fprintd I suspect. I don't know how to track down the problem.
[05:05] <phil_azing> I assume the gnome usage is via fprint in the same way as fprintd-enrol talks to the daemon.
[05:09] <mIk3_08> hi Bashing-om
[05:10] <mIk3_08> Just wanted to know how to play this Tug of war - Community vs Mods - to 200 (or -200) Ubuntuforum - Bashing-om
[05:22] <JanC> phil_azing: I would assume it talks the same to the daemon, but I'm not sure it configures anything for login?
[05:23] <JanC> based on the manpage, it just stores a fingerprint in a fingerprint database, but honestly I don't know enough about this to be useful...  :-/
[05:53] <imprint> hello everyone
[06:04] <Jari--_> I can not install Ubuntu on this machine, can not access BIOS, and can not boot from external USB hard disk I have.
[06:04] <Jari--_> So, is there a way to install Ubuntu from Windows 12?
[06:04] <Jari--_> NTFS
[06:04] <Jari--_> 11
[06:09] <alkisg> Jari--_: you can install WSL, or Ubuntu in Virtualbox, or use VirtualBox to install Ubuntu on a physical partition while running from Windows 11
[06:10] <alkisg> But... why can't you access the BIOS or boot from USB?
[06:11] <alkisg> (or boot from LAN, or whatever other "normal" way to install Ubuntu...)
[06:13] <Jari--_> alkisg: BIOS is jammed, dunno
[06:13] <Jari--_> but Windows 11 boots well
[06:13] <JanC> Windows 11 can't boot from BIOS
[06:13] <Jari--_> it just displays a message, like going to BIOS, and I wote for 30 minutes, and the message still stands there
[06:13] <JanC> so I assume you mean UEFI  ;)
[06:13] <alkisg> Jari--_: go to the menu to reboot windows. While clicking it, hold down the shift button. It will show advanced reboot options, and it will allow you to boot into UEFI
[06:14] <Jari--_> alkisg: thx
[06:14] <Jari--_> shift
[06:15] <JanC> if the firmware setup is broken, that won't help either, of course...
[06:15] <JanC> but worth a try
[08:12] <manjunath> @coolbhavi
[08:14] <coolbhavi> Hey buddy welcome to Ubuntu community.. you can ask any Ubuntu related queries here
[08:14] <manjunath> Thank you!
[09:00] <muhsincullu> hello
[09:32] <ellyia> what is this room for?
[09:39] <alkisg> ellyia: technical support for ubuntu
[11:48] <Chunkyz> Morning all ❤️❣️
[12:05] <whiskey76> Morning
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:05] <ice9> in 22.10 dark style is selected but if I chose another item in the gnome settings then open the "Appearance" again, it will make background for right-click menu and popups to default, not dark as shown here: https://ibb.co/G7JDdWk   https://ibb.co/8M3HFCJ
[15:06] <raub> Installing ubuntu 20.04 in a macbook. I am getting the black screen with a likke - that reminds me of NVIDIA issues
[15:07] <raub> So during boot I added the nomodeset, deleted quiet and spash so I can see messages, and it spit out messages as expect. But I am still getting the black screen
[15:07] <raub> Booting off install USB does not lead to the problem.
[15:07] <raub> What else should I try?
[15:09] <EriC^^> raub: try to see which driver its using during the live usb session, "lshw -c video" might show
[15:11] <youcef> who tried anbox
[15:11] <respawn> youcef: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:15] <raub> EriC^^: nvidia gk107m
[15:16] <Linux_Curmudgeon> why "ubuntu-advantage-tools" and other packages are held back?
[15:17] <WaV> !phased
[15:18] <Chunkyz> !fail
[15:18] <WaV> lol
[15:18] <WaV> Linux_Curmudgeon: phased updated
[15:18] <EriC^^> raub: that's what's next to 'configuration, driver=..." ?
[15:18] <WaV> raub: nomodeset to get into desktop environment then sudo apt install nvidia-driver-470
[15:19] <Linux_Curmudgeon> WaV, please elaborate.
[15:19] <WaV> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
[15:21] <Linux_Curmudgeon> Thanks WaV
[15:24] <WaV> raub: Sorry I just scrolled up and saw that you already tried nomodeset
[15:51] <raub> WaV: nomodeset did not work, as mentioned before. So I was asking for options.
[15:52] <raub> EriC^: I will have to check it again; recahrging laptop right now
[15:53] <raub> WaV: And I too did nto scroll to see your comment on scrolling. =)
[15:55] <jhutchins> raub: Did you get a console with nomodeset, or was the screen unresponsive?  Can you boot to "rescue mode"?
[15:55] <jhutchins> raub: (That's sometimes an option on the grub boot menu.)
[15:56] <jhutchins> Luckily in linux you don't need a working GUI to fix the GUI.
[16:12] <raub> jhutchins: I think I will boot it in full console mode and then start wifi so I can install packages. I am annoyed I cannot switch to a terminal window using ctrl-alt-fX
[16:13] <raub> But that also happen with my other ubuntu-running MAc
[16:15] <EriC^> raub: you could chroot from the live usb to install packages
[16:38] <jhutchins> raub: If I understand correctly, there's a kernel-level framebuffer driver that has to load for Nvidia.  The fallback to VESA graphics mostly doesn't work, and if the FB driver fails you get nothing.
[16:39] <jhutchins> raub: If it's not present at all you might get a normal console-backed session, but I'm not sure.
[16:39] <jhutchins> There are people madly pushing Ubuntu down the road to full Windows compatibility, BSOD and all.
[16:40] <jhutchins> Some of the newere users actually believe there's something bad and dangerous about a raw console.
[17:39] <Roey> hello all, anyone here know about setting up btrfs over luks during installation and manual partitioning?
[17:39] <jhutchins> Roey: Sounds like you're building yourself a headache on purpose.  Why?
[17:40] <Roey> jhutchins: sudden streak of hidden masochism
[17:41] <Roey> jhutchins: here's how it started:  I first installed Kubuntu using the fully automated partitioning, only to find that my system wouldn't boot ("No operating system found").  Turns out that Ubiquity had installed EFI/GPT partitions.  Only thing is that this laptop is circa 2009--no UEFI
[17:42] <Roey> jhutchins: so I got the advice to manually partition it
[17:42] <jhutchins> Roey: I would say that _during_ installation is unlikely.  If you were to build the filesystem prior to installation, you might get there, but I suspect that the installer wants to format root, and it doesn't offer btrfs.
[17:42] <Roey> instead.
[17:42] <Roey> jhutchins: so I baiscally dropped to a Konsole off the livecd
[17:43] <Roey> and created /boot, swap (encrypted), and want to make / and /home as subvolumes of a BTRFS volume on a LUKS-encrypted partition.
[17:43] <Roey> and I wonder if Ubiquity will undertand this setup
[17:43] <Roey> understand*
[17:43] <jhutchins> Another possibility would be to build an Ubuntu system on a nice, normal ext filesystem, then file-copy it to your btrfs/luks system.
[17:43] <Roey> ah, also an option
[17:43] <Roey> as I do have theo riginal hard drive from my older system with me
[17:44] <jhutchins> Roey: If you create a separate /boot you will be back here asking how to deal with /boot running out of space.
[17:44] <Roey> I gave it 4 GB
[17:44] <jhutchins> Roey: There is no good reason to do that on a modern system.
[17:44] <Roey> jhutchins: yeah and I agree with you; I've encountered this before.
[17:45] <Roey> jhutchins: so the resaon that it wsa suggested to me to put /boot on a separate partition,
[17:45] <Roey> jhutchins: was because I wanted originally to do /boot, / and /home on one BTRFS partition that was encrypted
[17:45] <Roey> but apparently Kubuntu has issues with that setup
[17:45] <Roey> specifically, btrfs and encryption for /boot
[17:45] <Roey> *encrypted btrfs for /boot, rather
[17:46] <Roey> and this way I have unencrypted /boot as btrfs on a separate partition.
[17:46] <jhutchins> Well, you're into it to learn, encrypted boot is possible, don't know about btrfs.
[17:46] <Roey> ok
[17:46] <Roey> I mean I just wnat my laptop to work
[17:46] <Roey> not as much to learn
[17:47] <Roey> I do know that I want my stuff encrypted as it is a laptop and can be stolen
[17:49] <jhutchins> Yes, that's a good idea.
[17:49] <jhutchins> Then again, some people encrypt their data, then put the password in the boot config.
[17:49] <Roey> YEAHHHHHH see?
[17:49] <Roey> that's why I wanted an encrypted /boot.
[17:50] <jhutchins> Roey: If it will boot without entering a password there's no point in encryption.
[17:50] <Roey> right right.
[17:50] <Roey> 100 agree.
[17:50] <Roey> 100%.
[17:51] <jhutchins> Anyway, the (on-topic) question was running the installer with btrfs and encryption, and I don't know anything about either topic, so I'll sit this out.
[17:51] <Roey> alright. well I appreciate your input.
[18:06] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[19:13] <p0indexter> why are packages kept back by apt and how do i restore them
[19:14] <rfm> p0indexter, usually it's phasing, and all you do is wait until your turn comes around.  run "apt-cache policy <package being held> to see if phasing is in force
[19:14] <l0tuspsychj3> !phasedupdates | p0indexter
[19:26] <p0indexter> rfm: ty
[19:27] <p0indexter> and ty l0tuspsychj3
[20:58] <c_89> Hi, I have created notify_script.sh in the path "/etc/nut/" with permissions 775 (root:nut) and add it in the "/etc/nut/upsmon.conf", but when UPS switch on battery nothing happens.
[21:00] <c_89> for testing I have write also this line, but nothing: `NOTIFYCMD "/usr/bin/notify-send \"HELLO\""`
[22:03] <jhutchins> c_89: Do your logs show the device sending any signal?
[22:05] <c_89> jhutchins the values battery.voltage, battery.voltage.high ...etc are displayed correctly with upsc, it is strange that in addition to ignoring the EXEC directive nothing is displayed even with the SYSLOG+WALL directive... this is the log: https://bpa.st/raw/FUPOC
[23:10] <johnny_> hi ubuntu is hanging -- 20.04.5 -- on a basic python text editor (thonny)
[23:12] <johnny_> also I have intermittant trouble with the udemy site's video player.
[23:12] <johnny_> videos don't load in a timely fashion
[23:13] <johnny_> this is on the edge browser