[03:16] <MrMobius> the assembler program NASM which I use has apparently been updated with a bug fix I need but sudo apt update doesnt find the new version. how and when would Ubuntu pick up the new version and update it?
[03:17] <leftyfb> !latest | MrMobius
[03:18] <MrMobius> leftyfb: fair enough. if it's a minor bug like this though,  will I need to wait for the next Ubuntu version?
[03:18] <leftyfb> MrMobius: I would first check with Debian to see where they are at
[03:19] <MrMobius> leftyfb: there is a list online somewhere I can check?
[03:20] <leftyfb> sorry, I don't know off the top of my head and in the middle of something right now so I can't google it
[06:06] <thomas25> i want to run two https servers on different local ports (naturally) but i want to have port 443 for both of them externally. so i need a proxy in front of them that can proxy to different local ports based on host. what's the tool for that?
[06:06] <thomas25> nginx maybe?
[06:12] <thomas25> dafaq happened to nginx, it looks like a non foss software now
[06:17] <arraybolt3> thomas25: nginx is in the Main repository in Ubuntu 22.10 at least, which consists of Canonical-maintainable software (mostly, if not all, FOSS) as far as I know.
[06:19] <arraybolt3> You might be looking at nginx.com rather than nginx.org - the two appear to be related but nginx itself is still FOSS, the things that nginx.com had for sale look different.
[06:19] <Bashing-om> !info nginx jammy
[06:19] <arraybolt3> Or it might be one of those "the software is free, but you can pay for support" things.
[06:20] <thomas25> it looked more like some important features are available for paid version kind of thing
[06:20] <thomas25> but now i'm looking at the foss versions docs, and it looks like that's not the case -- at least not to the extend i thought at first
[06:21] <arraybolt3> There's a lot of stuff out there where there's fancy enterprise features that most people have absolutely no need for that have a paywall, yeah it looks like that's what you're looking at.
[06:21] <arraybolt3> Probably most of those features are things that could be implemented yourself but a big business would rather throw money at someone else in order to make it easy.
[08:23] <ducasse> MrMobius: debian lists package versions on their site, you could also look for a third party repo
[09:05] <Chunkyz> Morning all ❤️❣️
[10:30] <gordonjcp> morning
[10:30] <gordonjcp> is there a way to permanently disable all system sounds?
[10:31] <lotuspsychj3> gordonjcp: you can lookup tweaks for your system with dconf-editor if you like
[10:33] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychj3: o_O
[10:33] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychj3: there's no user-selectable "turn all sounds off" option?
[10:34] <lotuspsychj3> gordonjcp: there's a value for event-sounds
[10:35] <lotuspsychj3> gordonjcp: there's also a disable-sound-output
[10:35] <lotuspsychj3> experiment a bit with the values
[10:37] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychj3: okay, event-sounds is set to false, it's still making silly noises
[10:37] <gordonjcp> DING DING DING DING BIDDLEBINK BIDDLEBINK
[10:37] <gordonjcp> everything makes a silly noise
[10:38] <gordonjcp> what's especially annoying is that it goes BIDDLEBINK BIDDLEBINK about once every five minutes whether it's doing anything or not
[10:40] <gordonjcp> it's particularly frustrating because I'm trying to listen to very quiet sounds on headphones, and then I get my ears blasted out by silly noises
[10:41] <lotuspsychj3> gordonjcp: sounds more like you got sound issues, then wanting to disable default system sounds?
[10:44] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychj3: sound works normally when it's not making silly noises
[10:44] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychj3: sound is fundamentally broken on Linux these days because of pulseaudio
[10:44] <gordonjcp> but that's a separate issue
[10:45] <gordonjcp> it's idiotic that multiple programs can play sounds at the same time
[13:51] <Chunkyz> gordonjcp: don't use Ubuntu then.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:05] <Chunkyz> Hi BluesKaj
[14:05] <BluesKaj> hi Chunkyz
[14:05] <tractelimon> hi
[14:06] <Chunkyz> BluesKaj: what time will you disappear today?
[14:07] <tractelimon> anyone can help me with safeboot on ? for ubuntu 20.04 LTS ? I try to integrate with mokutils but when I put safe-boot-on I recive this error https://i.imgur.com/UhXgJDV.jpg . thx
[14:11] <Chunkyz> And he's gone. Why oh why..........
[14:13] <arraybolt3> Chunkyz: Could we keep the room on-topic?
[14:13] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: Looking...
[14:14] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: OK, so what exactly did you do to get this error to appear? What does "try to integrate with mokutils" mean?
[14:14] <Chunkyz> Yes arraybolt3, stop the greeting a support channel then disappearing and your problem is solved.
[14:14] <arraybolt3> Describe in detail what you did to get here, that will make it easy to fix things.
[14:15] <arraybolt3> Chunkyz: You are known for being somewhat of a troll, just fyi, while BluesKaj is a long-time trusted member. If anyone's looking very bad right at this moment, it's you. Stop it.
[14:15] <Chunkyz> I'm not a troll. Try again.
[14:16] <Chunkyz> I've been saying hi to prove how useless greeting a support channel is.
[14:16] <tractelimon> arraybolt3: in BIOS I have safe boot on, and I get this error. If I put safe-boot to off, Ubuntu boot normaly but still have a problem with integrity: Problem loading X.509 certificate -65
[14:16] <Chunkyz> But I'm the troll.  K mate.
[14:16] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: The bit about integrity probably doesn't matter, that's a well-known error that doesn't affect anything.
[14:17] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: As for the secure boot error, are you able to boot a live ISO with Secure Boot enabled?
[14:17] <Chunkyz> Anyway 🤪 guess I'll just block you and that troll BluesKaj. No loss.
[14:17] <tractelimon> arraybolt3: I'm not sure, and in this moment I can't verify, but if secure boot are off, is not a problem ?
[14:18] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: Secure Boot doesn't really add that much security to a system, but it can be somewhat desirable.
[14:18] <arraybolt3> It's very odd that you're getting this error though. Did you try to change the Secure Boot keys on the system?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> I've defeated secure boot for ages without any negative effects, tractelimon
[14:20] <tractelimon> arraybolt3: I'm trying but I have no succseful and I get this error with security violation
[14:21] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: Has this system ever booted Ubuntu with Secure Boot enabled before?
[14:21] <tractelimon> BluesKaj: ok, I understand, so I don't need to have problem if secure-boot are disabled
[14:21] <tractelimon> arraybolt3: I don't remeber
[14:22] <arraybolt3> tractelimon: To be fair, I'd personally just disable Secure Boot and be happy. If you really want or need it enabled, though, I'd check in your BIOS settings for anything about a "3rd party CA Secure Boot key" or something to that effect, and if it's disabled, enable it and see if that helps.
[14:23] <arraybolt3> (I don't remember what the setting is actually called but it was something like that.)
[14:23] <tractelimon> arraybolt3: ok. thank you very much, right now I will do a reboot to check if I have some with 3rd party ....
[14:23] <kovital> hi, is there a way to force a fixed size window that does not fit my screen to the size i need, with openbox? for krita window.
[14:24] <kovital> or another tool maybe.
[14:28] <tomreyn> tractelimon: others reporting the "Problem loading X.509 certificate -65" message (which is benign while you're not using secureboot) found that this can be primarily due to the following causes: (a) buggy certificates supplied with uefi firmware -> see if a 'bios' update helps, (b) partially broken file system -> run fsck on all the root file system / (while it is not mounted writable, so from !recovery or a live booted system)
[14:29] <arraybolt3> tomreyn: I see that message on every Ubuntu system I have, I thought X.509 was related to networking or something? I could be totally wrong here.
[14:31] <BluesKaj> btw arraybolt3m thanks for your positive comment :-)
[14:34] <arraybolt3> BluesKaj: :)
[14:34] <tomreyn> arraybolt3: X.509 is just a tech standard describing a data format which e.g. cyptographic certificates can be stored in.
[14:35] <tomreyn> SSL certificates (https / lock icon in web browser) also use this standard
[14:53] <ducasse> kovital: try devilspie / gdevilspie
[14:54] <ducasse> it can alter geometry and position plus other propertes of windows as they open
[14:58] <tractelimon> arraybolt3: thank you
[14:58] <tractelimon> tomreyn: thank you
[15:48] <FKAShinobi> During an update, I was asked what to do about changed config files. I selected to view the changes in debconf but it did not show the changes and kept the original config. Is there a way to see the new proposed config for this version in case I want to modify it?
[15:54] <arraybolt3> There's probably an easier way to do this, but you could try looking through the source package for the configuration file in question.
[15:55] <arraybolt3> I wonder if dpkg-reconfigure could manage this though.
[15:55] <arraybolt3> hmm, dpkg-reconfigure doesn't look like the right tool, so probably nevermind there.
[16:09] <alkisg> FKAShinobi: sudo find /etc -name '*dpkg*' ==> might show dpkg-new etc files with the new contents,
[16:09] <alkisg> if not, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[16:10] <alkisg> So e.g. `sudo mv /etc/conf /etc/conf.bak`, and then `sudo apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss" <package-name>`, will give you the new conf, and you'll be able to compare
[16:10] <tomreyn> sudo find /etc -name '*.dpkg-*' -o -name '*.ucf-*'
[16:10] <alkisg> Hmm I think matrix might have converted some * into italics... the initial command was `sudo find /etc -name '*dpkg*'`
[16:11] <tomreyn> alkisg: that's how i saw it on my irc client
[16:11] <alkisg> Thank you tomreyn :)
[16:17] <FKAShinobi> Thank you all
[16:18] <FKAShinobi> tomreyn: I do see a smb.conf.ucf-dist file. what is ucf?
[16:18] <tomreyn> an "Update Configuration File"
[16:19] <tomreyn> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jammy/man1/ucf.1.html
[16:19] <FKAShinobi> that makes so much sense
[16:19] <tomreyn> "-dist" means it's version of the file that shipped with an updated package (at some point)
[16:21] <tomreyn> * *a* version
[16:23] <FKAShinobi> tomreyn: that's interesting because the dist version has my shares defined in it, but 2 comments I added were not part of it. The comments were for server min version and an explanation for that option.
[16:24] <FKAShinobi> Either way - the only diffs were my additional comments. All my setup shows the same between the files.
[16:25] <tomreyn> looks like i explained it wrong then, sorry
[16:31] <RMOTAO> HeeeLLooo THERE! How can I hide(or supress) the message on GRUB Screen: "Use the UP and DOWN keys to select... eTc"?
[16:34] <EriC^^> RMOTAO: you want it to go straight to the default OS?
[16:34] <EriC^^> without showing the menu?
[16:48] <RMOTAO> UBUNTU.
[16:48] <RMOTAO> UBUNTU 20.04
[16:49] <RMOTAO> No. I still want the menu.
[16:50] <RMOTAO> I just do not want to see this message.
[16:52] <jhutchins> RMOTAO: Try closing your eyes.
[17:18] <zxr_> hi
[20:47] <flataerth_> hi
[20:47] <flataerth_> anyone here for help?
[20:47] <flataerth_> so thers who actually aren't sell phone addicts on here?
[20:52] <tomreyn> flataerth_: do you have an ubuntu support question then?
[20:52] <flataerth_> yes, i just dowloaded pidjin IM
[20:53] <flataerth_> i need to subscribe to the indiviudal program outside of pidjin to log on?
[20:53] <flataerth_> like make a gadu or IRC account to use pidjin?
[20:53] <flataerth_> then i kan IM people with goolge talks?
[20:54] <tomreyn> pidgin supports different chat and communication protocols. many if not most will require you to sign up to use the communication network and get credentials you can then enter in pidgin.
[20:55] <tomreyn> i think google talk is no more, but there is probably some follow-up service (possibly using a different protocol)
[20:56] <flataerth_> but once i log on to pidjin with irc or kadu, i can then IM people with other IM programs there?
[20:56] <tomreyn> note there is also the #pidgin channel here on this IRC network, which may be in a better position to support pidgin
[20:57] <flataerth_> thanks tom. so i can't kreate a log in just with pidjin account?
[20:57] <tomreyn> if those other IM programs support the same communictation network / protocol, yes, otherwise no
[20:57] <flataerth_> thanks for that, can anyone make a channell here? and who runs this Xcat? linux mint?
[20:57] <flataerth_> who's the owner of xchat or main manager?
[20:58] <tomreyn> xchat is a software, a client for the IRC communication protocol. you are chatting here on one of several IRC networks, called Libera. This channel is about Ubuntu support.
[20:59] <flataerth_> so i can add anyone on pidjin that uses a program listed on pidjin like irc, google, kadu, jabbar etc
[20:59] <tomreyn> There's also a #hexchat channel here (heychat is a "fork" of XChat, which i think is no longer under development)
[20:59] <flataerth_> so IRC is for windows too? not just ubuntu or linux?
[20:59] <flataerth_> ubuntu is part of linux? or vice versa?
[21:00] <tomreyn> only once you've registered accounts on thses comunication networks. IRC is special in that it doesn't require an account to get started.
[21:00] <flataerth_> so the username i use here on IRC, i can just put on pidjin?
[21:00] <tomreyn> Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, one of the many.
[21:00] <flataerth_> ok thanks, so linux mint is not part of ubuntu?
[21:01] <flataerth_> it's also a linx distribution?
[21:01] <flataerth_> are yu a robot human tom? jk
[21:01] <tomreyn> if pidgin supports irc (i think it does) then you can just connect to the libera network using the same nickname there.
[21:01] <tomreyn> i'm a human. are you actually using ubuntu?
[21:01] <flataerth_> Linux mint Mate
[21:01] <flataerth_> 19.3 i think
[21:02] <tomreyn> okay, then you're really in the wrong place to get support here
[21:02] <flataerth_> my graphics card doesn't work well with ubuntu
[21:02] <flataerth_> for some reason
[21:02] <flataerth_> nvidia gforce forget the version
[21:02] <tomreyn> if you want to revisit that some time, feel free to come back here, and ask for support with it
[21:02] <flataerth_> well i don't need ubuntu support
[21:02] <flataerth_> i can run most stuff on ubuntu on minit
[21:02] <flataerth_> yu helpd me with the pidjin stuff tho
[21:02] <tomreyn> right, so we're really off-topic for this channel
[21:03] <flataerth_> well pidjin was on topic
[21:03] <flataerth_> no?
[21:03] <flataerth_> i'm on the ubuntu server now
[21:03] <tomreyn> would have bene on-topic if you ran it on ubuntu
[21:03] <tomreyn> you can /join #libera for help with irc
[21:03] <tomreyn> also there is:
[21:03] <flataerth_> ok well it runs the same on mint
[21:03] <tomreyn> !alis
[21:04] <flataerth_> oh this is ubuntu suport i got ya
[21:04] <flataerth_> thanks tom
[21:04] <flataerth_> yu get paid for this?
[21:04] <tomreyn> no
[21:04] <flataerth_> so irc is on windows too or just linux?
[21:04] <flataerth_> so yu just do this for free how did yu get this?
[21:05] <tomreyn> we're off topic, sorry dude.
[21:05] <flataerth_> yu said pidjin is a channell?
[21:05] <flataerth_> don't see it?
[21:05] <flataerth_> np
[21:05] <tomreyn> type: /join #pidgin
[21:06] <tomreyn> you are misspelling it with a j
[21:06] <flataerth_> on here?
[21:06] <tomreyn> yes.
[21:06] <flataerth_> thanks
[21:07] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[21:09] <wjtaylor> Does anyone have a working touchscreen using 22.04? My stylus is working, but my touchscreen is not.
[21:15] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: Mine worked even in 18.04
[21:17] <jhutchins> wjtaylor: What kind of touchscreen?  How does it identify in your hardware lists?
[21:23] <flataerth_> how do i get the channell list for ubuntu?
[21:24] <leftyfb> !alis | flataerth_
[21:25] <jhutchins> flataerth_: irc channels?  What network?  Have you tried a web search?
[21:25] <leftyfb> flataerth_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[21:25] <flataerth_> thanks
[21:25] <flataerth_> anyone familiar with pidgin?
[21:26] <flataerth_> can i message someone on pidjin from another IM server that's on pidjin without having that account?
[21:26] <flataerth_> what's the % or men to women on IRC?  roughly? 10 to 1? lol
[21:26] <leftyfb> flataerth_: please stop. You've been told several times
[21:27] <flataerth_> stop what?
[21:27] <flataerth_> jeez
[21:27] <flataerth_> alis
[21:27] <flataerth_> how do i get alis?
[21:27] <leftyfb> flataerth_: this is an ubuntu support channel. Free free to chat about non-ubuntu support topics in #ubuntu-offtopi
[21:27] <yomama420> you already got it
[21:27] <leftyfb> sorry, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:27] <yomama420> type "/msg Alis list help"
[21:28] <c_89> Hi, why Firefox 109.0 64 bit (flatpak) does not allow to add module `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opensc-pkcs11.so`?
[21:28] <flataerth_> #offtopic
[21:28] <leftyfb> c_89: you'll have to contact Mozilla for support with the Firefix flatpack
[21:28] <leftyfb> sorry, Firefox. Not on my game today
[21:30] <c_89> leftyfb I searched a lot on the web but I didn't find solutions, I also tried adding the module with NSS but nothing!
[21:31] <flataerth_> thanks yall
[21:31] <ravage> c_89: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621691
[21:31] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Mozilla bug 1621691 in Release Engineering "Failed to load module / security device /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/onepin-opensc-pkcs11.so" [Normal, Resolved: Fixed]
[21:31] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: It used to work in 14.xx, not in 22.04
[21:32] <leftyfb> 14.04, from 9 years ago?
[21:32] <wjtaylor> JHutchins - Ntrig multitouch. It shows in xinput list. I'm not sure what to do to troubleshoot
[21:32] <wjtaylor> leftyfb: yes
[21:32] <wjtaylor> Doesn't work now though
[21:32] <c_89> leftyfb ravage the only workaround that seems to work is to use the AppImage version: https://github.com/srevinsaju/Firefox-Appimage#readme
[21:33] <ravage> c_89: i dont use the flatpak. cant help here really
[21:34] <AsunaMora> Hi all, is there any way to use NVIDIA Optimus only for Virtual Environment by IOMMU?
[21:36] <yomama420> hey
[21:39] <c_89> ravage in the link you sent me: firefox 76 fixed, firefox 77 fixed, firefox95 affected
[21:41] <wjtaylor> jhutchins: https://pastebin.com/y4Si2hrb
[21:42] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: > xinput -list-props 11
[21:45] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: https://pastebin.com/
[21:45] <wjtaylor> let me try that again
[21:45] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: https://pastebin.com/NKbFhf6W
[21:45] <flataerth_> how many servers are on irc?
[21:48] <leftyfb> flataerth_: type:  /join #ubuntu offtopic
[21:48] <leftyfb> flataerth_: looks like you're already there. Ask your non-ubuntu support questions there, not here
[21:49] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: Is synaptics available for install?  libinput might not know how to handle that
[21:49] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: synaptics the package manager?
[21:50] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: search for xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[21:51] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: It was already installed and at the newest version.
[21:55] <wjtaylor> This is on a Dell Latitude XT2 if that helps any.
[21:57] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: No ideas, the xinput results were from libinput and it said the touchscreen was enabled.  Is there anything in Mouse/Touchpad settings for the screen?
[22:03] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: No
[22:03] <wjtaylor> I thought there was at one time though
[22:03] <wjtaylor> So it this functionality all in the kernel or is there userland support needed?
[22:04] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: Something must be missing since it isn't working but it seems kernel support is there as it shows in xinput
[22:10] <wjtaylor> Jeremy31: where are events captured in the kernel? I don't seem to be generating any events
[22:13] <Jeremy31> wjtaylor: you could look in /var/logs
[22:22] <jhutchins> Synaptic touchpad drivers should be included in the kernel packages.
[22:23] <jhutchins> !synaptics
[22:43] <webchat27> I added 2FA to ssh and now cannot login.
[22:43] <webchat27> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/configure-ssh-2fa#1-overview
[22:48] <guilll31> hi, I have a xubuntu 14.04 pc that don't boot anymore, I use a live usb 22.04 to access it.  What should I look at to understand why it don't boot?
[22:50] <leftyfb> guilll31: you should install 22.04 and restore from backup. 14.04 was release almost 9 years ago and went end of life 4 years ago.
[22:50] <pinkergloop> so
[22:50] <pinkergloop> i have ubuntu studio, and i have this problem where my desktop freezes after a few hours of use but applications still run fine
[22:51] <pinkergloop> when i do ctrl alt f2 and try to obtain a log when it's frozen, this is what i get
[22:51] <pinkergloop> https://pastebin.com/01LNYkZw
[22:51] <pinkergloop> any help?
[22:51] <guilll31> I am afraid that if I install I will lose a loot of stuff, if I am able to fix it, I will be able to do my backup
[22:53] <jhutchins> guilll31: You may be able to do adequate backups by booting to a live image.
[22:53] <jhutchins> !live
[22:54] <leftyfb> guilll31: that's what backups are for. I am not suggesting you upgrade since that will take exponentially longer and I don't have a lot of confidence it won't result in more problems. I'm suggesting you make a backup of your files, install Ubuntu 22.04 and restore your files and reinstall any packages you want
[22:56] <Gallomimia> if discord simply downloads its own updates anyway, what is the point of shutting down the app to refresh the snap and relaunching?
[22:57] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: because discord doesn't download it's own updates with the snap. The snap does that
[22:57] <Gallomimia> uhh reality doesn't agree
[22:58] <ravage> discord is able to download small fixes but does not do major updates
[22:58] <Gallomimia> got notified about the need to update, did so, still downloaded 5 updates after
[23:03] <CailYoung> Hi folks; https://changelogs.ubuntu.com is returning 503s for me; where should I report that?
[23:06] <jhutchins> CailYoung: Server appears to be down.
[23:07] <jhutchins> CailYoung: I'd just wait for it to come back, it's monitored.
[23:08] <CailYoung> It appears to have been down for at least 8 hours at this point
[23:10] <CailYoung> (I have a VM image build that failed that long ago, due to the inability to reach changelog to assert on some package upgrades)